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  posted on 8/3/2016 at 08:33 AM
"These are the two most unelectable candidates ever"

Remember George McGovern?

 

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  posted on 8/3/2016 at 08:39 AM
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Trump is all those things you say Hillary is, and worse. Much, much worse (IMO of course, but it is a strong case based on everything he has said and done since he announced his run last year). He's ignorant on foreign affairs and his rhetoric is already doing damage to US interests abroad, his tax plan will cost trillions and he has not explained how it will be paid for, and his economic policy will set the US back a hundred years. His relationship with Putin and Russia in general is highly suspect and has not been properly vetted. He has been shown to have lied to the American people more than any other POTUS candidate this cycle, and still does it daily...he takes the American public as suckers and fools and a good portion of the electorate is lapping it up.

And to top it all off, no one here has yet to make a compelling case for him based on him, it is only about being anti-Hillary. So go ahead and make an anti-Hillary case, there is plenty of fodder there. But don't try to make a pro-Trump case that is nothing but anti-Hillary and then try to tell us he'd make a good POTUS.



I disagree with you , I think Hillary is much worse. Her crimes are on full display. The dishonest media likes to cover for her. CNN is a joke. They are like a get away driver.
Why won't she hold a press conference?
I think politicians are the problem not the solution. Time for someone outside the political ranks to get in there. Hillary represents the status quo. Both the republican and democrat establishment are against Trump , Did you ever think of that? I also disagree with you about the tax plan. Reagan did it , lowered taxes for all. It worked. The economy is no where near what it could be. Less taxes and less regulation equals more opportunity for all. I believe in the free market, it IS what made this country great. . Clinton believes in crony capitalism.
Look at the Clinton foundation. 80% for "admin cost"
And to think we should not secure our boarders is insane and suicidal.
And Trumps relation with Putin and Russia is suspect
Really?
Clintons is not? She gave them 25% of USA uranium and got $145 million from those investors into the Clinton foundation.
And Clintons campaign manager sat on a board of a company that got $35 million from a Putin connected government fund.
Now why is the dishonest press not vetting that.
Again why won't Clinton hold a press conference?
And Why is the media refusing to hold her accountable?

 

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  posted on 8/3/2016 at 09:00 AM
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And to top it all off, no one here has yet to make a compelling case for him based on him, it is only about being anti-Hillary. So go ahead and make an anti-Hillary case, there is plenty of fodder there. But don't try to make a pro-Trump case that is nothing but anti-Hillary and then try to tell us he'd make a good POTUS.



Somebody needs to go back and read the threads. I'll repeat this AGAIN to save you the trouble..

Trump:

1. Is used to making huge decisions under pressure
2. Knows how to build a team
3. Has created thousands of jobs, all of which he has been responsible for the payroll
4. Has made a career turning vision into reality
5. Has immense administrative skills
6. Cut his teeth in a real-world business environment, not in a law library or in politics
7. Is a skilled negotiator


So he's not an Ivy League elite or a lawyer. If that was a recipe for success in leading this
nation, we wouldn't be in the sorry shape were in.

Time to move in a different direction. Past time...


 

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  posted on 8/3/2016 at 09:18 AM
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And to top it all off, no one here has yet to make a compelling case for him based on him, it is only about being anti-Hillary. So go ahead and make an anti-Hillary case, there is plenty of fodder there. But don't try to make a pro-Trump case that is nothing but anti-Hillary and then try to tell us he'd make a good POTUS.



Somebody needs to go back and read the threads. I'll repeat this AGAIN to save you the trouble..

Trump:

1. Is used to making huge decisions under pressure
2. Knows how to build a team
3. Has created thousands of jobs, all of which he has been responsible for the payroll
4. Has made a career turning vision into reality
5. Has immense administrative skills
6. Cut his teeth in a real-world business environment, not in a law library or in politics
7. Is a skilled negotiator


So he's not an Ivy League elite or a lawyer. If that was a recipe for success in leading this
nation, we wouldn't be in the sorry shape were in.

Time to move in a different direction. Past time...

I can't disagree with the "time to move in a different direction" part, but I think the different direction should include some knowledge of foreign affairs, respect for the Constitution, and an ability to give thoughtful consideration to all aspects of issues. I wouldn't mind seeing someone from the business world, but it should be someone who knows that they do not know everything, has a willingness to learn, and the ability to inspire. You can't run a free nation the same way Trump has run his privately owned companies. It's not surprising that he has no concept of division of power and checks and balances based upon his business experience. I wish someone like Alan Mulally would run. He has the experiences you value but with a management style that is just about the opposite of Trump's. There are plenty of top businessmen more suited to be President that Trump. So why are we stuck with him? (rhetorical question)

 

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  posted on 8/3/2016 at 09:29 AM
Steve Wynn is another that comes to mind. He's a Democrat I could see myself supporting.





[Edited on 8/3/2016 by alloak41]

 

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  posted on 8/3/2016 at 10:10 AM
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And to top it all off, no one here has yet to make a compelling case for him based on him, it is only about being anti-Hillary. So go ahead and make an anti-Hillary case, there is plenty of fodder there. But don't try to make a pro-Trump case that is nothing but anti-Hillary and then try to tell us he'd make a good POTUS.



Somebody needs to go back and read the threads. I'll repeat this AGAIN to save you the trouble..

Trump:

1. Is used to making huge decisions under pressure
2. Knows how to build a team
3. Has created thousands of jobs, all of which he has been responsible for the payroll
4. Has made a career turning vision into reality
5. Has immense administrative skills
6. Cut his teeth in a real-world business environment, not in a law library or in politics
7. Is a skilled negotiator


So he's not an Ivy League elite or a lawyer. If that was a recipe for success in leading this
nation, we wouldn't be in the sorry shape were in.

Time to move in a different direction. Past time...

I can't disagree with the "time to move in a different direction" part, but I think the different direction should include some knowledge of foreign affairs, respect for the Constitution, and an ability to give thoughtful consideration to all aspects of issues. I wouldn't mind seeing someone from the business world, but it should be someone who knows that they do not know everything, has a willingness to learn, and the ability to inspire. You can't run a free nation the same way Trump has run his privately owned companies. It's not surprising that he has no concept of division of power and checks and balances based upon his business experience. I wish someone like Alan Mulally would run. He has the experiences you value but with a management style that is just about the opposite of Trump's. There are plenty of top businessmen more suited to be President that Trump. So why are we stuck with him? (rhetorical question)


Now we are getting somewhere! Thank alloak for stepping up and offering some pro-Trump reasons (even if we disagree on the substance of them), you're the first and only so far to do so here, I think.

I do agree with bob1954's reply. I would add that I'm not sure that #1, 3, and 6 translate to POTUS as we are talking two very different worlds and decision making process and priorities are going to be much different than running a private company (especially the way he runs it, based on what I have heard and read and seen with my own eyes). #2 might be true, but again a totally different environment from the boardroom to the situation room and I don't think he knows the kind of team he needs or that I trust him to bring in the right people (Paul Manafort is a good example of questionable team building, IMO). As for #4, he's had some success but also come colossal failures, so that one is a two-edged sword. I don't know/accept that #5 is true at all. And lastly #7...Trump is the first one to tell you he is a skilled negotiator but that doesn't make it true...there are many stories circulating from people that have done business with Trump and his companies that raise a lot of questions in this space.

Obviously I think there are some valid counter points to pro-Trump traits that alloak raised, and so I do remain unswayed in my opposition to Trump over all others (don't look so shocked, ha ha). As bob pointed out, his lack of even basic knowledge of foreign affairs, lack of respect for the Constitution (except the 2nd amendment I guess), and an inability to give thoughtful consideration to all aspects of complex issues are all things that remain gravely concerning to me. Add to that the questions that have been raised regarding his Russia connections and relationships, his xenophobic/racist/sexist rhetoric, his potentially disastrous economic "plan", his unethical business practices, his outright disdain and disrespect toward people who are different from him (women, the disabled/handicapped, muslims, and anyone who has different political views, to name a few) and it all adds up to a potential POTUS that would damage our country and the world in ways that we can't even fathom yet.

 

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  posted on 8/3/2016 at 10:17 AM
When in doubt, blame Obama!! I would LOL but it is just so ridiculous that I just have to SMH instead...


Donald Trump Spokesperson Katrina Pierson Blames Obama for Capt. Humayun Khan's Death

According to Donald Trump spokeswoman Katrina Pierson, the death of U.S. Army Capt. Humayun Khan in 2004 can be blamed on President Barack Obama. At the time of Capt. Khan's death in Iraq, Obama was an Illinois [state] senator ó who was staunchly against the war.

"It was under Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton that changed the rules of engagement that probably cost his life," Pierson said to anchor Wolf Blitzer on CNN.

Blitzer had been pressing Pierson on whether Trump had apologized to Capt. Khan's family for remarks he made following a speech by Khizr Khan, Capt. Khan's father, during the Democratic National Convention.

After repeatedly dodging the question, Pierson decided to shift blame for the Republican presidential candidate's attacks onto Clinton and Obama.

"But surely you can understand the confusion considering how Donald Trump never voted for the Iraq War," Pierson said. "Hillary Clinton did."

After Pierson's gaffe, Twitter predictably stepped in to call her out, and soon after, #KatrinaPiersonHistory began trending. (see full article for some pretty funny tweets, etc)

Full article: https://mic.com/articles/150476/donald-trump-spokesperson-katrina-pierson-b lames-obama-for-capt-humayun-khan-s-death#.flTY5mm6N

 

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  posted on 8/3/2016 at 10:38 AM
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"It was under Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton that changed the rules of engagement that probably cost his life."


Oh, FFS already.

 

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  posted on 8/3/2016 at 11:07 AM
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"It was under Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton that changed the rules of engagement that probably cost his life."

Oh, FFS already.

Excuse my ignorance (once again) but what is FSS?

 

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"It was under Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton that changed the rules of engagement that probably cost his life."

Oh, FFS already.

Excuse my ignorance (once again) but what is FSS?


For (effs) Sake

 

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  posted on 8/3/2016 at 11:19 AM
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When in doubt, blame Obama!! I would LOL but it is just so ridiculous that I just have to SMH instead...


Donald Trump Spokesperson Katrina Pierson Blames Obama for Capt. Humayun Khan's Death

According to Donald Trump spokeswoman Katrina Pierson, the death of U.S. Army Capt. Humayun Khan in 2004 can be blamed on President Barack Obama. At the time of Capt. Khan's death in Iraq, Obama was an Illinois [state] senator ó who was staunchly against the war.

"It was under Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton that changed the rules of engagement that probably cost his life," Pierson said to anchor Wolf Blitzer on CNN.

Blitzer had been pressing Pierson on whether Trump had apologized to Capt. Khan's family for remarks he made following a speech by Khizr Khan, Capt. Khan's father, during the Democratic National Convention.

After repeatedly dodging the question, Pierson decided to shift blame for the Republican presidential candidate's attacks onto Clinton and Obama.

"But surely you can understand the confusion considering how Donald Trump never voted for the Iraq War," Pierson said. "Hillary Clinton did."

After Pierson's gaffe, Twitter predictably stepped in to call her out, and soon after, #KatrinaPiersonHistory began trending. (see full article for some pretty funny tweets, etc)

Full article: https://mic.com/articles/150476/donald-trump-spokesperson-katrina-pierson-b lames-obama-for-capt-humayun-khan-s-death#.flTY5mm6N


I saw that segment yesterday when she wrong on the facts. I believe originally she was a Cruz surrogate but switched over to Trump. She's reasonably good at what she does but has a really tough job trying to explain away and justfy Trump's statements and views. The more he f ups, the more her job as a surrogate becomes difficult. She's a tough cookie, and I wouldn't want to be on the wrong side of her...well maybe that would be a good place to be.

 

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  posted on 8/3/2016 at 11:22 AM
Take a look at what's happened in the last 24 hours:

In a Washington Post interview, Trump declined to endorse House Speaker Paul Ryan against his primary challenger

He reiterated that he hasn't endorsed Sen. John McCain and said the onetime prisoner of war "has not done a good job for the vets"

He slapped out at Republican Sen. Kelly Ayotte, saying "she has given me zero support"

He suggested that Americans should pull their 401(k) funds out of the stock market

He said he's "always wanted" to receive a Purple Heart but that having one gifted to him by a supporter was "much easier"

He said that the handling of sexual harassment has "got to be up to the individual"

He accused Khizr Khan of being "bothered" by his plan to keep terrorists out of the country, and said that he had no regrets about his clash with the family

He appeared to feud with a crying baby during a rally

He reiterated that "if the election is rigged, I would not be surprised"

The sitting president of the United States publicly called Trump "unfit to serve" and urged Republicans to withdraw their support for him.

Trump spokesman Katrina Pierson suggested that Obama and Clinton are to blame for the death of Humayan Khan, who died in 2004, when neither were in the executive branch at the time

An ally of Paul Manafort told our colleague John Harwood at CNBC that the campaign chairman is "mailing it in," leaving the rest of the staff "suicidal."

Sitting GOP congressman Richard Hanna, HP head Meg Whitman and former Christie aide Maria Comella all said they plan to vote for Hillary Clinton

The Washington Post released a transcript of its full interview with Trump, indicating among other things that he paused five times to watch TV coverage in the middle of the sit-down

A GOP source told NBC's Katy Tur that Reince Priebus is "apoplectic" over Trump's refusal to endorse Ryan and is making calls to the campaign to express his "extreme displeasure"

 

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  posted on 8/3/2016 at 11:24 AM
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"It was under Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton that changed the rules of engagement that probably cost his life."

Oh, FFS already.

Excuse my ignorance (once again) but what is FFS?

For (effs) Sake

Ahh...thanks. It fits the situation.

 

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  posted on 8/3/2016 at 11:26 AM
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Look at the Clinton foundation. 80% for "admin cost"


Gloucester-mass lies do not advance your cause.


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How to Understand the Clinton Foundation
By Brian Mittendorf

It seems like a new media story about the financial entanglements of the Clinton Foundation arrives on a daily basis. And with Hillary Clintonís presidential campaign now in full swing, this trend seems unlikely to end in the near future.

The proliferation of reports about the organizationís finances makes it increasingly difficult to determine which stories carry real weight and which are better viewed as partisan posturing. I offer three tips for sorting it out.

Do not expect the Clinton Foundation to behave like a private foundation.

Although it has "foundation" in its name, the Clinton Foundation is actually a public charity. In practical terms, this means both that it relies heavily on donations from the public and that it achieves its mission primarily by using those donations to conduct direct charitable activities, as opposed to providing grants from an endowment.

Failure to understand the difference led to the widespread claim (covered by the New York Post, Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, and others) that only a small portion of Clinton Foundation spending goes toward charity. While measuring charitable endeavors by the amount of grants awarded may be appropriate for many private foundations, it is not for an organization that acts as a direct service provider like the Clinton Foundation.

Pay attention to the foundationís audited financial statements, not its Form 990.

This is important because audited financials reflect the consolidated activities of all related entities, as required by Generally Accepted Accounting Principles. The Clinton Foundationís most recent audited financials report on the combined activities of the foundation and its affiliated charity, the Clinton Health Access Initiative. By contrast, the Form 990 tax filings follow each entity separately. The Clinton Foundationís legal composition has changed over time ≠ó for example, the Clinton Global Initiative was spun off during the years Hillary Clinton was secretary of state.

Thus the activities covered by the foundationís stand-alone tax filings are inherently different across the years, whereas the consolidated entity, which continued to include the Clinton Global Initiative even when it filed separate tax forms, has remained stable.

Some news reports reflect a misunderstanding about this difference, as was the case when the Federalist reported that the Clinton Foundationís claim of spending 88 percent of its expenses on programs was "demonstrably false" since its tax forms showed that figure was only 80 percent. But the 80 percent reflects spending by the parent entity in isolation, while the 88 percent reflects spending by all of the related groups.

The confusion worsens when reporting relies on a mix of tax forms and consolidated financials. The Federalist also claimed the Clinton Foundation devoted substantial resources to distributing pharmaceuticals in 2008 and 2009, but those activities became "virtually nonexistent" by 2011.

This conclusion mixed apples and oranges, however, because it relied on data from consolidated activities in 2008 and 2009 but from tax forms for 2011 through 2013. Since the Clinton Health Access Initiative is the source of most such pharmaceutical distribution but files a separate tax form, finding this contrast was entirely predictable. A more appropriate apples-to-apples comparison using consolidated financials throughout reveals that pharmaceutical distribution has indeed waned but not to the extent alleged by the Federalist.

Compare financial information to a peer organization for context.

Looking at the Clinton Foundationís financial activities in a vacuum makes it difficult to develop a sense of what is ordinary and what is truly unusual. A comparison to peer organizations provides important context. Though the Clinton Foundation is clearly unique, with a former president as its public face, aggressive worldwide fundraising, and a global agenda of public-private partnerships, this shouldnít stop people from making this effort. In my book, the best point of comparison is the Carter Center, founded by President Jimmy Carter. The similarities both in terms of the founderís public persona and the organizationís worldwide reach make it a natural benchmark.

A look at the Carter Center not only shows why criticizing the Clinton Foundationís low grant payouts is problematic but it also can give a sense of how reasonable other expenses are. Such a comparison reveals that it is not grant behavior that sticks out but rather the rise in the Clinton Foundationís payroll costs in recent years.

These suggestions apply to the Clinton Foundationís defenders as well as its critics. Take, for example, an opinion piece in Forbes calling the foundation a trailblazer because it decided to voluntarily disclose its donors. While it is true that the foundation is among a small group of public charities that have taken this step, it is also not a typical public charity. Again, appropriate benchmarking is in order. While the Clinton Foundation first began disclosing donors in 2008 (after years of pressure), the Carter Center has long had this policy.

These three tips are not guaranteed to fully separate the wheat from the chaff in reports about Clinton Foundation finances. But an ability to spot these pitfalls can help us have a more nuanced view of the organization upon which to judge the propriety of both the foundation and the family that runs it.

Brian Mittendorf is a professor of accounting at Ohio State Universityís Fisher College of Business.

 

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  posted on 8/3/2016 at 11:28 AM
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Less taxes and less regulation equals more opportunity for all.


Actually, this has been tried in Kansas over the last few years. It's not working too well at all, and as a matter of fact, Moderate Republicans pretty much smoked their further-to-the-right opponents yesterday in the primary, an incumbent bloodbath.

 

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  posted on 8/3/2016 at 11:48 AM
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Take a look at what's happened in the last 24 hours:

In a Washington Post interview, Trump declined to endorse House Speaker Paul Ryan against his primary challenger

He reiterated that he hasn't endorsed Sen. John McCain and said the onetime prisoner of war "has not done a good job for the vets"

He slapped out at Republican Sen. Kelly Ayotte, saying "she has given me zero support"

He suggested that Americans should pull their 401(k) funds out of the stock market

He said he's "always wanted" to receive a Purple Heart but that having one gifted to him by a supporter was "much easier"

He said that the handling of sexual harassment has "got to be up to the individual"

He accused Khizr Khan of being "bothered" by his plan to keep terrorists out of the country, and said that he had no regrets about his clash with the family

He appeared to feud with a crying baby during a rally

He reiterated that "if the election is rigged, I would not be surprised"

The sitting president of the United States publicly called Trump "unfit to serve" and urged Republicans to withdraw their support for him.

Trump spokesman Katrina Pierson suggested that Obama and Clinton are to blame for the death of Humayan Khan, who died in 2004, when neither were in the executive branch at the time

An ally of Paul Manafort told our colleague John Harwood at CNBC that the campaign chairman is "mailing it in," leaving the rest of the staff "suicidal."

Sitting GOP congressman Richard Hanna, HP head Meg Whitman and former Christie aide Maria Comella all said they plan to vote for Hillary Clinton

The Washington Post released a transcript of its full interview with Trump, indicating among other things that he paused five times to watch TV coverage in the middle of the sit-down

A GOP source told NBC's Katy Tur that Reince Priebus is "apoplectic" over Trump's refusal to endorse Ryan and is making calls to the campaign to express his "extreme displeasure"

You'd think the campaign was imploding, but really it has been like this all along and it never seems to bother his supporters. I've never seen anything like it. I do think that Obama should stay out of the fray. It is beneath him. Besides, saying what he thinks Republicans should do only makes them less likely to do it.

 

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  posted on 8/3/2016 at 12:21 PM
This is an interesting article about Trump and his businesses. It is lengthy so i doubt some people will take the time to read it.

After reading it, I would like someone to exppalin to me about how Trump is a great businessman.


http://www.newsweek.com/2016/08/12/donald-trumps-business-failures-election -2016-486091.html

 

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http://www.indystar.com/story/money/2016/08/03/diverging-pences-message-tru mp-says-debt-rise-no-matter-who-wins-presidency/87908688/

Diverging from Pence's message, Trump says debt will rise 'no matter who' wins presidency

James Briggs,12:42 p.m. EDT August 3, 2016

As Gov. Mike Pence travels the country blasting "failed policies that landed our national government $19 trillion in debt," Donald Trump is warming up to deficit spending.

The Republican nominee for president has suggested in recent interviews he's open to increasing the national debt, going as far as saying that federal deficit spending is necessary and will continue regardless of whether he or Democrat Hillary Clinton wins in November.

"It's called priming the pump," Trump told The New York Times. "Sometimes you have to do that a little bit to get things going. We have no choice ó otherwise, we are going to die on the vine."

Many economists would agree with Trump's assessment. Yet, Trump's acknowledgment of inevitably higher debt violates conservative orthodoxy ó and runs counter to the argument Pence has been making in favor of electing Trump.

The national debt has nearly doubled during Obama's presidency, from $10.6 trillion to $19.4 trillion. Pence repeatedly has hammered on that point, including during his speech at the Republican National Convention.

ďNow today, while the nation suffers under the weight of $19 trillion in the national debt, we in Indiana have a $2 billion surplus, the highest credit rating in the nation, even though weíve cut taxes every year since I became governor four years ago," Pence said in Cleveland.

Pence continued that theme July 29 while addressing the free-market American Legislative Exchange Council in Indianapolis, arguing that Democrats are pushing for "more taxes, more regulation, more government, more of the same failed policies," while asserting Trump is the responsible choice for president.

A spokesman for Pence, who this week has been thrust into the role of clarifying Trump's remarks, did not respond to a request for comment regarding the candidates' position on debt.

Trump's selection of Pence as his vice presidential running mate seemed based in part on the Indiana governor's reputation for fiscal conservatism. When Trump introduced Pence on July 16, he highlighted Indiana's budget.

"Our budget's so out of whack in this country, we don't know what we're doing," Trump said. "We're going to owe very soon $21 trillion. (Pence) balanced the budget."

Yet, Trump's recent statements suggest he doesn't think reducing the national debt would be prudent.

Trump on Tuesday specified one big spending increase he would push for as president. Trump during a Fox Business News interview said he would call for more than $500 billion in new funding for infrastructure projects, such as repairing and replacing bridges. The proposal, which amounts to a stimulus plan, would double Clinton's proposed infrastructure spending, according to Bloomberg.

Trump said he would fund the new infrastructure investment, at least in part, through government-issued bonds, which would increase the debt.

Trump's position on debt has evolved throughout his campaign. Trump, for instance, previously told The Washington Post that he could pay off the national debt within eight years. He also suggested during a CBS interview that he could renegotiate the nation's debt. In his recent interview with The Times, Trump said his tax policies and economic growth eventually would reduce the deficit during his presidency.

For now, though, it seems Trump is comfortable with federal spending that exceeds revenue ó a divergence from Pence's message.

ďThe economy would be crushed under Hillary," Trump told The Times. "But no matter who it is, the debt is going up.Ē

 

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  posted on 8/3/2016 at 12:50 PM
I find it shocking that Trump would be ok with deficit spending


 

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  posted on 8/3/2016 at 01:00 PM
even more shocking is that after 8 yrs of railing against the current administration about the deficit, threatening to shut down the gov't over it, the GOP is now in support of it.

 

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  posted on 8/3/2016 at 01:01 PM
I would think there would have to be some kind of deficit spending. If the government spent only what it took in it would be a disaster. It will take long time to chip away at it.
 

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  posted on 8/3/2016 at 01:03 PM
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I find it shocking that Trump would be ok with deficit spending





Trump has been deficit spending for his entire career.

 

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  posted on 8/3/2016 at 01:36 PM
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Trump favors school choice, kind of a weird position to take for a racist. Seems like a racist would
want to keep black kids shackled to a failing public school system....Oh well.


Keeping black kids shackled is exactly what "school choice" is all about.


Sure it is. Giving them other alternatives is all about keeping them locked down.

What was i thinking?


You weren't thinking, at least not critically. "School choice" is a euphemism for privatizing education, backed by the Koch brothers. It will bankrupt public education, long held as one of the highest and most cherished ideals of the American dream and American democracy

 

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  posted on 8/3/2016 at 02:04 PM
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This is an interesting article about Trump and his businesses. It is lengthy so i doubt some people will take the time to read it.

After reading it, I would like someone to exppalin to me about how Trump is a great businessman.


http://www.newsweek.com/2016/08/12/donald-trumps-business-failures-election -2016-486091.html


 

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  posted on 8/3/2016 at 02:28 PM
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Gloucester-mass lies do not advance your cause.


Funny coming for someone who openly supports liars

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Pay attention to the foundationís audited financial statements, not its Form 990


HAHA sure don't look at the form 990 , what a bunch of crap. 10% giving to charities. $8.8 million to charities , $29 million to salaries and other compensation, $8.5 on travel, nearly $5 million on office supplies. Don't forget where they got the money . $145 million from the Russian investors involved in the uranium deal. Not to mention the pro quo for all of the speeches
Nothing to see here. But go listen to a professor explain it away
I have worked for plenty of companies including non profits, this is a joke.
Just in case you want to see the return despite what the professor says here it is

http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2013/311/580/2013-311580204-0b0083da- 9.pdf


 
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