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  posted on 2/27/2016 at 06:16 PM
Lowest common denominator, appeals to everyone's prejudices.....

 

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  posted on 2/27/2016 at 07:12 PM
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Re: diverse support - Women make up biggest voting block, & in national election I doubt he takes that significant segment of voters. He won't win the black vote, and with his "kind" words he can write off Hispanics where he's got an unfavorable rating of about 80%. Then there is the Muslim vote - another of his favorite targets, and I'm guessing he'd be in the single digits at best.


I'm still back at will he get the nomination. One thing that many talking heads get wrong is that "women" are a category. There are white, hispanic, black, asian, and other women of various religions and levels of education. I've read articles - most notably by Gloria Steinheim - that she's shocked "women" aren't voting for Hillary in order to elect the first woman president. Young women voters don't see that as a deal breaker or maker; they vote on issues.

But hey, Trump loves "undereducated people" so I guess that's a separate category to consider.




Under educated people are his specialty. He even had a "university" to take advantage of them.

 

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Re: diverse support - Women make up biggest voting block, & in national election I doubt he takes that significant segment of voters. He won't win the black vote, and with his "kind" words he can write off Hispanics where he's got an unfavorable rating of about 80%. Then there is the Muslim vote - another of his favorite targets, and I'm guessing he'd be in the single digits at best.


I'm still back at will he get the nomination. One thing that many talking heads get wrong is that "women" are a category. There are white, hispanic, black, asian, and other women of various religions and levels of education. I've read articles - most notably by Gloria Steinheim - that she's shocked "women" aren't voting for Hillary in order to elect the first woman president. Young women voters don't see that as a deal breaker or maker; they vote on issues.

But hey, Trump loves "undereducated people" so I guess that's a separate category to consider.




Under educated people are his specialty. He even had a "university" to take advantage of them.


If you call that a university. Expect Teddy & Marco to hit him more on that fallacy of a university in the coming weeks.

Ironic that the undereducated people flock to Trump. Maybe they think he'll lead them down the path to "everyone can be a billionaire".

 

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  posted on 2/27/2016 at 07:47 PM
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Re: diverse support - Women make up biggest voting block, & in national election I doubt he takes that significant segment of voters. He won't win the black vote, and with his "kind" words he can write off Hispanics where he's got an unfavorable rating of about 80%. Then there is the Muslim vote - another of his favorite targets, and I'm guessing he'd be in the single digits at best.


I'm still back at will he get the nomination. One thing that many talking heads get wrong is that "women" are a category. There are white, hispanic, black, asian, and other women of various religions and levels of education. I've read articles - most notably by Gloria Steinheim - that she's shocked "women" aren't voting for Hillary in order to elect the first woman president. Young women voters don't see that as a deal breaker or maker; they vote on issues.

But hey, Trump loves "undereducated people" so I guess that's a separate category to consider.




I was put off by the Steiheim mantra. On the other hand "women" are a category and what you correctly described would fall into subcategories. I will go on record right now and say that whoever the Dem. candidate is will win the "women" vote regardless of who the GOP candidate is. With his attitude towards women and repulsive comments, Trump would do worse than anyone else the GOP would nominate. (see Megyn Kelly for but one example).

But, hey listen to Trump, and he will tell you how much everyone loves him. Talk condescendingly to people, and they will come out in droves to vote for him...pretty simple, Donald...right?

 

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  posted on 2/27/2016 at 07:50 PM
trump stated, "if I'm elected, ill do away with the EPA and the Dept. of education". and he LOVES the undereducated!............ they are his supporters!.

[Edited on 2/28/2016 by pops42]

 

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Re: diverse support - Women make up biggest voting block, & in national election I doubt he takes that significant segment of voters. He won't win the black vote, and with his "kind" words he can write off Hispanics where he's got an unfavorable rating of about 80%. Then there is the Muslim vote - another of his favorite targets, and I'm guessing he'd be in the single digits at best.


I'm still back at will he get the nomination. One thing that many talking heads get wrong is that "women" are a category. There are white, hispanic, black, asian, and other women of various religions and levels of education. I've read articles - most notably by Gloria Steinheim - that she's shocked "women" aren't voting for Hillary in order to elect the first woman president. Young women voters don't see that as a deal breaker or maker; they vote on issues.

But hey, Trump loves "undereducated people" so I guess that's a separate category to consider.




I was put off by the Steiheim mantra. On the other hand "women" are a category and what you correctly described would fall into subcategories. I will go on record right now and say that whoever the Dem. candidate is will win the "women" vote regardless of who the GOP candidate is. With his attitude towards women and repulsive comments, Trump would do worse than anyone else the GOP would nominate. (see Megyn Kelly for but one example).

But, hey listen to Trump, and he will tell you how much everyone loves him. Talk condescendingly to people, and they will come out in droves to vote for him...pretty simple, Donald...right?

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  posted on 2/27/2016 at 07:59 PM
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Clinton will be the next president


Dear God, please, no.

 

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  posted on 2/27/2016 at 08:05 PM
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trump stated, "if I'm elected, ill do away with the EPA and the Dept. of education". and he LOVES the undereducated!............ they are his supporters!.

[Edited on 2/28/2016 by pops42]


Trump got 2 out of 2. Last election Rick Perry could only get 2 out of 3.

 

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  posted on 2/27/2016 at 08:07 PM
It could be difficult for Hillary Clinton to get votes when under indictment (multiple counts) of criminal violations of The Espionage Act and corruption.

Joe Biden is in waiting.

 

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  posted on 2/27/2016 at 08:15 PM
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http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/12/news/economy/donald-trump-china-mexic o-jobs/


Thanks for posting that.

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Many of the jobs lost were in factories that made toys, clothing, furniture and other labor-intensive industries, which were relatively low-skilled. The manufacturing jobs that return will involve more technology and require more education and training, he said.

"More stuff will be made here, but it won't be by the same laid-off workers from textile and leather plants," Autor said.


PLEASE tell me that all that money the federal government has spent in TRA isn't going to go wasted.

We allow the companies to outsource the jobs, we pay for education and training programs for the displaced workers. The people should have training!

I refuse to fall for the free trade global economy lie. It doesn't have to be that way. Open your eyes America.

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Also, Americans benefit from cheaper goods made overseas. This is particularly true for poor and middle class Americans, who spend much more of their earnings on imported products, Lawrence said. Items manufactured in the United States will likely cost more.

"You'll see a huge increase in the cost of living for Americans," he said.


OK, so we won't have $50 mircowaves. We won't have $100 kitchen tables that seat 4.

Another lie. It doesn't have to be that way. Quality products made with quality components cost more and the benefit is they last longer meaning you have to replace less often and maybe they wiill even provide you with a decent job with decent benefits when you work at the factory making a Made in USA microwave and kitchen table. Plus instead of living in a disposable society where the cheap piece of big box store garbage fails in a year and you have to buy another one, we can actually repair things again. You know things that are worth keeping because they are good, you want to repair it to keep it. And that employs people who repair the items as well.

Screw Vietnamese furniture. I mean **** Vietnamese furniture.

You can't get a brand new couch for $99 now? Well maybe you can get a job making a couch in American and provide for your family instead of looking at a call center or cash register job.

EVERYONE! The free trading globalists in academia have been wrong for over half a century now. Do not fall for it. How we doing so far? This is not a left - right issue. It is an American issue!!!!!!!!

 

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  posted on 2/27/2016 at 08:21 PM
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Clinton will be the next president


Dear God, please, no.


So who is your preference?

 

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  posted on 2/27/2016 at 08:26 PM
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http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/12/news/economy/donald-trump-china -mexico-jobs/


Thanks for posting that.

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Many of the jobs lost were in factories that made toys, clothing, furniture and other labor-intensive industries, which were relatively low-skilled. The manufacturing jobs that return will involve more technology and require more education and training, he said.

"More stuff will be made here, but it won't be by the same laid-off workers from textile and leather plants," Autor said.


PLEASE tell me that all that money the federal government has spent in TRA isn't going to go wasted.

We allow the companies to outsource the jobs, we pay for education and training programs for the displaced workers. The people should have training!

I refuse to fall for the free trade global economy lie. It doesn't have to be that way. Open your eyes America.

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Also, Americans benefit from cheaper goods made overseas. This is particularly true for poor and middle class Americans, who spend much more of their earnings on imported products, Lawrence said. Items manufactured in the United States will likely cost more.

"You'll see a huge increase in the cost of living for Americans," he said.


OK, so we won't have $50 mircowaves. We won't have $100 kitchen tables that seat 4.

Another lie. It doesn't have to be that way. Quality products made with quality components cost more and the benefit is they last longer meaning you have to replace less often and maybe they wiill even provide you with a decent job with decent benefits when you work at the factory making a Made in USA microwave and kitchen table. Plus instead of living in a disposable society where the cheap piece of big box store garbage fails in a year and you have to buy another one, we can actually repair things again. You know things that are worth keeping because they are good, you want to repair it to keep it. And that employs people who repair the items as well.

Screw Vietnamese furniture. I mean **** Vietnamese furniture.

You can't get a brand new couch for $99 now? Well maybe you can get a job making a couch in American and provide for your family instead of looking at a call center or cash register job.

EVERYONE! The free trading globalists in academia have been wrong for over half a century now. Do not fall for it. How we doing so far? This is not a left - right issue. It is an American issue!!!!!!!!

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Just another good reason to vote for Trump.

American goods have massive tariffs imposed on them when exported while foreign product come into the U.S. virtually tariff free.

Donald Trump is a master negotiator and will get us much better deals and stop China from manipulating their currency.

Obama will not. He needs China to keep buying the debt Obama keeps racking up.




 

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  posted on 2/27/2016 at 09:09 PM
trump will be President. It's a slam dunk. They will come out in droves and vote him in as payback for their suffering through Obama. even though they know he is bad for the country, they will vote him in anyways purely out of spite.
 

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Clinton will be the next president


Dear God, please, no.


So who is your preference?


In all seriousness, I am at a loss. I was leaning towards Rubio until the last debate where I watched him lower himself to Trump's level. Now, I've no idea.....

 

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Clinton will be the next president


Dear God, please, no.


So who is your preference?


In all seriousness, I am at a loss. I was leaning towards Rubio until the last debate where I watched him lower himself to Trump's level. Now, I've no idea.....


Sure. Because attacking everyone is easier than defending someone, which is all that you and muleboy ever do.

 

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Clinton will be the next president


Dear God, please, no.


So who is your preference?


In all seriousness, I am at a loss. I was leaning towards Rubio until the last debate where I watched him lower himself to Trump's level. Now, I've no idea.....


Sure. Because attacking everyone is easier than defending someone, which is all that you and muleboy ever do.


Examples of my attacking people, please.

 

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  posted on 2/27/2016 at 10:07 PM
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It could be difficult for Hillary Clinton to get votes when under indictment (multiple counts) of criminal violations of The Espionage Act and corruption.

Joe Biden is in waiting.

Keep on dreaming, meat-puppet.

 

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  posted on 2/28/2016 at 07:16 AM
Back to the original question (sort of), how do people outside NYC where Trump's been a tabloid presence most of his adult life, how do people even know who he is? Does he have celebrity status from The Apprentice? Is he just some rich businessman like Perot?
 

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Back to the original question (sort of), how do people outside NYC where Trump's been a tabloid presence most of his adult life, how do people even know who he is? Does he have celebrity status from The Apprentice? Is he just some rich businessman like Perot?

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From the same sources as any highly public figure assuming you know how to glean facts and ignore the opinion.

BTW - Ross Perot couldn't hold a candle to Donald Trump business success.

 

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  posted on 2/28/2016 at 12:22 PM
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From the same sources as any highly public figure


So, from tv. He wasn't a public figure until he started doing The Apprentice. He was one of dozens of NYC real estate developers.

Check your facts re Perot; he is the son of a sharecropper, inherited zero, and is worth, according to Forbes, $4.0 billion at age 85. Trump, who worked in and shared profits from his father and brother's real estate business before going off on his own, is worth $4.5 billion and even he admits Forbes "over-rated him, but it made borrowing money easier." He's also said he made more money from The Apprentice than real estate.

Anyone have a genuine answer?

 

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Back to the original question (sort of), how do people outside NYC where Trump's been a tabloid presence most of his adult life, how do people even know who he is? Does he have celebrity status from The Apprentice? Is he just some rich businessman like Perot?


I think he has just always been around. I can remember his name being mentioned by my parents maybe 20 years ago. Either he was in business news, or had a book or one thing or the other.

Kind of like Jack Welch or any businessperson who has just been "around". Some people have just been in the news and mixed business life with books, interviews, etc.

Some people likely know him only from the Apprentice. I don't know anyone who watched that show, but even if you didn't watch it and watched some late night TV or whatever you heard about it. "you're fired' - right. I mean that show probably elevated the national awareness of him if nothing else.

If you wanted to say he is just some rich businessman that has always been around that would probably be correct. I think he was rather well known nationally by people over a certain age well before the Apprentice.

 

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  posted on 2/28/2016 at 12:58 PM
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trump will be President. It's a slam dunk. They will come out in droves and vote him in as payback for their suffering through Obama. even though they know he is bad for the country, they will vote him in anyways purely out of spite.


Some people will vote for him no matter what yes. I think some people like myself are pretty cautious, perhaps even nervous about it.

I've always thought that he will do or say something that will sink him, which definitely could still happen. Watch the debates and the campaign with Hillary. There is a very big chance that something happens which will sour alot of people on the fence with him.

I really think it is amazing the numbers he is getting. As everyone probably knows, he got more votes in Nevada himself than all Republicans combined got in 2012. 3 states in a row with record turnout, as Trump says "I think I have something to do with that". So I think it is almost a slam dunk he is the nominee, but I would definitely stop short of saying he beats Hillary as a slam dunk. Although, with such low voter turn out in the Democrat primaries there is valid concern with her support irregardless of who the Republicans run against her. Not sure how SC turnout was vs previous years though.

 

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  posted on 2/28/2016 at 01:00 PM
Right. I forgot about The Art of the Deal. He did make the rounds on that in the late 1980s. Thanks.
 

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  posted on 2/28/2016 at 03:12 PM
Interesting piece by Michael Smerconish on how Trump might be counting on low voter turnout for moderates and Democrats.


The Pulse: Is math on Trump's side?
by Michael Smerconish, Inquirer Columnist.

I'm a genius. Donald Trump said so. It must be true.

His observation came the night of his impressive victory in South Carolina, after I noted on CNN that the total vote garnered by Marco Rubio (22.5 percent), Jeb Bush (7.8), and John Kasich (7.6) bested his total (37.9 vs. 32.5).

My observation that a coalescing of the establishment vote could topple Trump was also something I'd tweeted: (Marco + Kasich + Jeb = more than Trump. But it needs to happen soon or it will be too late. "Hello John . . . it's Marco calling.") Many have since made similar observations. But minutes after I said it on TV, Trump claimed victory in Spartanburg, introduced his family, and then said this:

"So I was watching upstairs and it was really amazing to be watching what I was watching. . . . But a number of the pundits said, 'Well, if a couple of the other candidates dropped out, if you add their scores together, it's going to equal Trump.'

"But these geniuses - they're geniuses - they don't understand that as people drop out, I'm going to get a lot of those votes also. . . .

"You don't just add them together. So I think we're going to do very, very well. I think we're going to do very well."


Among the many things wrong with Trump as a human being and as a candidate is his apparent need to articulate this complaint. And the numbers don't lie. Trump is both the leading - and most unpopular - Republican in the race. The latest Quinnipiac University poll (released Feb. 17) confirmed that while Trump has built a 2-1 lead among all Republicans nationwide, he is also leading in the category of candidate "you would definitively not support." A full 28 percent of Republicans say they would never support Trump's bid for the nomination. And he is even more unpopular among all Americans.

As Frank Newport, the editor-in-chief of Gallup, recently observed: "Most political and media commentators have at this point installed Donald Trump as the GOP front-runner. . . . But this narrative tends to obscure the fact that Trump is the most unpopular candidate of either party when the entire U.S. population is taken into account - and that he has a higher unfavorable rating than any nominated candidate from either of the two major parties going back to the 1992 election, when we began to track favorability using the current format."

According to Gallup daily tracking last month (Jan. 14-27), 60 percent of all Americans view Trump unfavorably, while only 33 percent view him favorably.

That he is nonetheless succeeding is attributable to a combination of factors, including exodus, passion, and neglect - the exodus from the Republican Party by those unhappy with its angry, rightward tilt; the passion of Trump supporters, which translates into participation during primary and caucus season; and the neglect by those Americans who continue to cede our political debate to those with the loudest voices.

California provides a great insight into migration from the GOP. (Don't laugh - the state that gave us the hula hoop, Ronald Reagan, and property-tax revolts is often on the vanguard of social change.) Last week I spoke to the Orange County Business Council in the location once recognized as the hotbed of American conservatism. Orange County was the birthplace of both the John Birch Society and Richard Nixon. But amid the crowd of 700 to whom I spoke were many who wanted to share with me their stories of being Republicans in exile. Today, Orange County's demographics are majority minority, and soon its independents will outnumber Republicans.

Last week, Secretary of State Alex Padilla revealed that 24 percent of California voters are now "no party preference," an uptick from 2008 when slightly less than one in five checked this box. Democrats are 43 percent of the state's voters, while Republicans are now less than 28 percent.


And it's the GOP that has most been affected by registration changes. Its ranks have fallen by 7 percent since 2006, the last year in which a Republican won statewide. Nationwide, according to a Gallup survey last month, 42 percent of Americans now regard themselves as independent rather than Republican or Democratic.

Many of those Republicans left behind are a hostile, angry lot and their antipathy toward a government headed by Barack Obama gives them motivation to participate in what is otherwise a low-interest process. CNN's entrance surveys for the Nevada caucus revealed that 59 percent of attendees are very angry at the federal government. Trump garnered 49 percent of these voters. That he's been able to harness emotion taps into a reality of American politics well documented in 2014 by Pew Research Center:

"Many of those in the center remain on the edges of the political playing field, relatively distant and disengaged, while the most ideologically oriented and politically rancorous Americans make their voices heard through greater participation in every stage of the political process."

That's the mathematical calculation Trump is counting on - that good men and women will do nothing, at least for the next few weeks, enabling him to triumph by capturing the Republican nomination.

Michael Smerconish can be heard from 9 a.m. to noon on SiriusXM's POTUS Channel 124 and seen hosting "Smerconish" at 9 a.m. Saturdays on CNN.

http://mobile.philly.com/beta?wss=/philly/opinion&id=370341731

 

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  posted on 2/29/2016 at 04:40 PM
This keeps getting better every day.

Over the next two weeks the candidate of choice of the WP liberals here will be eliminated.

Obama, The DNC, Wall Street and the democrat party elite long ago decided that the corrupt and liar Hillary Clinton will be the democratic party nominee for president. Your primary vote does not matter; they don’t care what you think.

The only question that remains are how many of the WP liberals will be outside of the courthouse during Hillary Clinton’s trial holding signs and hollering “Free Hillary, Free Hillary!”

Will y’all switch form Bernie Sanders to the Hooker of Wall Street?

 
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