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  posted on 5/5/2016 at 10:33 AM
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It is possible that, with the nomination secured, Mr Trump will now change his tone. The crassness of his insults may well be muted as he tries to win over at least some of the voters, particularly women, who now abhor him.

Translation: He's going to have to change his tune if he wants to get normal people to vote for him.

 

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  posted on 5/5/2016 at 11:40 AM
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It is possible that, with the nomination secured, Mr Trump will now change his tone. The crassness of his insults may well be muted as he tries to win over at least some of the voters, particularly women, who now abhor him.

Translation: He's going to have to change his tune if he wants to get normal people to vote for him.


Prediction: He won't because he doesn't really have to change it that much.

 

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  posted on 5/5/2016 at 11:59 AM
So now both Bush presidents, Romney and McCain have all said that they will not endorse Trump or even attend the GOP convention. I wonder if they will leave their ballot blank or if they will be voting for Hillary.

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  posted on 5/5/2016 at 12:03 PM
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So now both Bush presidents, Romney and McCain have all said that they will not endorse Trump or even attend the GOP convention. I wonder if they will leave their ballot blank or if they will be voting for Hillary.

I don't know, but I hear the keynote speaker slot at the convention is open if anyone is interested.

 

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  posted on 5/5/2016 at 12:26 PM
Maybe they can get the chair that debated Clint Eastwood?

 

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  posted on 5/5/2016 at 12:46 PM
The republican party is reshaping and Bush, Romney, McCain, Lindsey Graham and many other RINOs are gasping their last breath as they will become marginalized if Trump defeats Hillary.

 

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  posted on 5/5/2016 at 12:53 PM
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The republican party is reshaping and Bush, Romney, McCain, Lindsey Graham and many other RINOs are gasping their last breath as they will become marginalized if Trump defeats Hillary.

Trump isn't a RINO??? That's would be an odd assessment.

 

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  posted on 5/5/2016 at 01:06 PM
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The republican party is reshaping and Bush, Romney, McCain, Lindsey Graham and many other RINOs are gasping their last breath as they will become marginalized if Trump defeats Hillary.

Trump isn't a RINO??? That's would be an odd assessment.


Seems like Trump is as RINO as it gets. He made his fortune on the backs of taxpayer supported redevelopment dollars, gave is $hitload of $ to liberal politicians, and is as far from the values voter ideal as possible.

 

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  posted on 5/5/2016 at 01:52 PM
Lets see, he managed to secure the nomination spending most likely the least amount of any candidate in the last 20 years so i am confident he will use similar fiscal restraint when elected. He may be a lot of things including democratic leaning talking points on social issues but he is the most conservative on :

1) Immigration
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  posted on 5/5/2016 at 02:08 PM
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Lets see, he managed to secure the nomination spending most likely the least amount of any candidate in the last 20 years so i am confident he will use similar fiscal restraint when elected. He may be a lot of things including democratic leaning talking points on social issues but he is the most conservative on :

1) Immigration
2) Military
3) Economy
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Wow, that's an interesting take. Seems to help make my earlier point that his supporters will latch on to whatever rhetoric that he puts out there that they find appealing and turn a blind eye to all the false narratives and inconsistent words/actions between candidate Trump and businessman Trump.

Basically he is saying what it takes to get republicans (at least some of them) to support him even when the words are not supported by his actions over the past 30 or 40 years, like the leopard has suddenly changed his spots...to me that is textbook RINO (especially since he has no voting record to judge him on).

 

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  posted on 5/5/2016 at 02:39 PM
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Lets see, he managed to secure the nomination spending most likely the least amount of any candidate in the last 20 years


Why was that? It's a valid question.

Republicans have been whining for years about the liberal media, but the free mass media coverage that Trump just received over the last several months is unprecedented.

 

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  posted on 5/5/2016 at 02:42 PM
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He may be a lot of things including democratic leaning talking points on social issues but he is the most conservative on :

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2) Military
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Split response on purpose. Isn't a re-spun campaign promise still just a campaign promise?

 

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  posted on 5/6/2016 at 07:20 AM
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Lets see, he managed to secure the nomination spending most likely the least amount of any candidate in the last 20 years


Why was that? It's a valid question.

Republicans have been whining for years about the liberal media, but the free mass media coverage that Trump just received over the last several months is unprecedented.

Exactly. Being "confident he will use similar fiscal restraint when elected" because of his campaign spend is about as naive a statement as I have ever seen here. Trump has consistently received more media coverage than any other candidate in this election and maybe ever, and he spent less on advertising because of it. It has nothing to do with needing or wanting to be frugal.



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  posted on 5/6/2016 at 08:06 AM
I recently got a job transfer to a different department w/in my company, and it involved intense training on a new program. They estimated that it should take about 6 months to learn with the training they provided. The staffers that were assigned to train me were experts in their field, but they were the worst teachers on the planet. I excelled in school. I learn very well in a classroom setting, where I can focus, take notes, and receive quality explanations. But teaching is a science, and being an expert on something does not mean you can teach it. They could not teach it, period. It was a mess, with random info being scattered about, speaking to us in a technical language that we didn't yet know. They ended up digging a hole for us, and we had to learn it ourselves and dig ourselves out of it. It got to the point where several of us almost quit or got fired. What's the point?

It has occurred to me, while observing our entire political landscape, left and right, that education truly is the single most important issue in our country. We have a below average education system. Our schools are filled w/ "teachers" like my co-workers. I sympathize with the children who have to suffer trying to learn from a horrible teacher. It's a major problem. I believe troubled children stem from both poor parenting and a poor educational program. A good teacher who can actually teach, will end up showing children that there is a clear path to a great life, and inspire them to chase it. Poor teachers end up frustrating their students, making them think they are dumb to the point where they say "F it", and they give up. Those frustrations at home and school lead to anger, hatred, and prejudices, and a Trump presidency.

Moving forward, I will vote for any politician who makes education their #1 priority.....not one of their priorities, but their #1.

 

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  posted on 5/6/2016 at 08:10 AM
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Moving forward, I will vote for any politician who makes education their #1 priority.....not one of their priorities, but their #1.

Good luck finding one. Maybe at the local level, but not likely at the national level.

 

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  posted on 5/6/2016 at 08:22 AM
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It has occurred to me, while observing our entire political landscape, left and right, that education truly is the single most important issue in our country. We have a below average education system. Our schools are filled w/ "teachers" like my co-workers. I sympathize with the children who have to suffer trying to learn from a horrible teacher. It's a major problem. I believe troubled children stem from both poor parenting and a poor educational program. A good teacher who can actually teach, will end up showing children that there is a clear path to a great life, and inspire them to chase it. Poor teachers end up frustrating their students, making them think they are dumb to the point where they say "F it", and they give up. Those frustrations at home and school lead to anger, hatred, and prejudices, and a Trump presidency.


As a teacher I could not agree with this more. I did not "grow up" in the educational system, having not moved into teaching until I was almost 50. First thing I observed is that most classroom teachers are not removed from reality, they've never been there. Administrators are way worse, and most couldn't find their a$$e$ with both hands. Standardized testing is a joke. The lack of discipline is abhorrent. Classroom instruction for 30 or more kids per class is by necessity reduced to expectations for the bare minimum, and teachers spend at least one third of their time teaching to the standardized tests. The vocabulary of most high school students is so limited it will blow your mind, and if they can't google it or use a calculator they are completely lost. Education as a business has sucked the life out of learning. Without a total revamping of the system I don't see how we turn anything around, no matter who is president.

 

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  posted on 5/6/2016 at 08:59 AM
dougmac, that's a shame to hear, but I'm glad there are people like you in the system who can hopefully make a difference on some level. If you redirect just one kid from the wrong path to the right path, then it's all worth it.

I just can't fathom how our leaders locally and nationally can allow this to happen within our schools. It seems obvious that the one position that should be vetted the most is a teacher. We could easily revamp everything and make teachers one of the most coveted positions out there, but it would require our leaders to fund it as a top priority, and sadly it just isn't. Even sadder is that I hope the reason that it isn't a priority is due to incompetence. I'd hate to believe they intentionally keep it that way to solidify social classes.

Social media has really exposed this failure. It's amazing to see what some people post for the world to see, and be proud of it!

 

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  posted on 5/6/2016 at 09:29 AM
It's cooler to be stupid than smart. "Nerd" was an insult for decades. At one point, Beavis and Butthead were at the top of pop culture.

But, hey, let's not let parenting off the hook here. Parents and teachers were once partners, now they are adversaries.

 

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But, hey, let's not let parenting off the hook here. Parents and teachers were once partners, now they are adversaries.

And in a big way. Not only that. but administrators and teachers are also adversaries, since administrators don't want any negative feedback or complaints from parents. And they don't want to get involved with discipline issues, so rarely back the teachers, instead insisting teachers "take care of discipline issues in the classroom." It's a total mess. If the general public really knew what was going on they'f go ballistic. There is hope though. Teacher shortages are already reaching critical mass in places like California and Oklahoma, and are spreading.

 

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But, hey, let's not let parenting off the hook here. Parents and teachers were once partners, now they are adversaries.

And in a big way. Not only that. but administrators and teachers are also adversaries, since administrators don't want any negative feedback or complaints from parents. And they don't want to get involved with discipline issues, so rarely back the teachers, instead insisting teachers "take care of discipline issues in the classroom." It's a total mess. If the general public really knew what was going on they'f go ballistic. There is hope though. Teacher shortages are already reaching critical mass in places like California and Oklahoma, and are spreading.

We (wife and I) saw this up close and personal at the beginning of this school year...we had to go head to head with an incompetent/abusive teacher, lying department head and disinterested administrator. As soon as we hired a lawyer their tune changed completely, but the damage was done and any trust/faith we had in them was over. The situation is much better now, but it was a very disheartening experience.

 

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But, hey, let's not let parenting off the hook here. Parents and teachers were once partners, now they are adversaries.

And in a big way. Not only that. but administrators and teachers are also adversaries, since administrators don't want any negative feedback or complaints from parents. And they don't want to get involved with discipline issues, so rarely back the teachers, instead insisting teachers "take care of discipline issues in the classroom." It's a total mess. If the general public really knew what was going on they'f go ballistic. There is hope though. Teacher shortages are already reaching critical mass in places like California and Oklahoma, and are spreading.

We (wife and I) saw this up close and personal at the beginning of this school year...we had to go head to head with an incompetent/abusive teacher, lying department head and disinterested administrator. As soon as we hired a lawyer their tune changed completely, but the damage was done and any trust/faith we had in them was over. The situation is much better now, but it was a very disheartening experience.

Sadly gondi your experience is completely typical. Especially in SPED, teachers, diagnoticians, and admins will bully parents all over thge place and nake decisions best for the school and district at the expense of a child. Bring in a lawyer and suddenly they;re all about the children.

 

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  posted on 5/9/2016 at 12:04 PM
Trump flip flops again...stay tuned he'll probably say something completely different next week...


Donald Trump Flips His Position on Minimum Wage Yet Again
By Tom McKay May 08, 2016

Presumptive Republican presidential nominee and real estate billionaire Donald Trump flipped his position on minimum wage again on Sunday.

In an interview on NBC's Meet the Press, Trump told host Chuck Todd he had traveled the country, met with thousands of voters, and now has "seen what's going on. And I don't know how people make it on $7.25 an hour."

"Now, with that being said, I would like to see an increase of some magnitude," he continued. "But I'd rather leave it to the states. Let the states decide. Because don't forget, the states have to compete with each other."

Todd asked whether the federal government should ensure a minimum wage "floor" (such as the current federal minimum wage of $7.25), Trump responded "No, I'd rather have the states go out and do what they have to do. And the states compete with each other, not only other countries, but they compete with each other, Chuck. So I like the idea of let the states decide."

To summarize: Trump said he would like workers to be paid more, but also that he will leave the matter to the states, and also that this whole federal minimum wage thing is maybe kind of a misguided idea anyhow.

In other words, he's advocating doing nothing on the federal minimum wage as president.

But Trump still wants U.S. workers to make more money (perhaps from all that unprecedented economic growth he said will happen under his presidency). It's a full reversal from his position on wages last year, when he said U.S. workers make too much money for the U.S. to be internationally competitive, and later explicitly clarified he was referring to the federal minimum wage, which he said should not be raised.

So, ultimately, Trump is all over the place on this issue.

But consistency is not necessarily what Trump is aiming for — malleable positions are, by his own admission, part of his supposed strategy.

In another interview the same day on ABC's This Week with George Stephanopoulos, Trump addressed the seeming disconnect, saying he supports bringing back well-paying jobs rather than raising the minimum wage and insisting his planned tax cuts will bring back money to the average worker. He also portrayed many of his official policy positions as starting points for future negotiations with Democrats in Congress — negotiations necessary to reach those great deals Trump keeps on promising.

"I'm allowed to change," Trump said. "You need flexibility, George, whether it's a tax plan, where you're going — where you know you're going to negotiate. But we're going to come up with something. But my real minimum wage is going to be — I'm going to bring companies back into this country, and they're going to make a lot more than the $15 even ... that's what I want to do."

 

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  posted on 5/10/2016 at 07:25 AM
Trump can be specific when he wants to be.

 

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  posted on 5/10/2016 at 11:29 AM
As I have been saying all along, Trump's ignorant anti-Muslim rhetoric and policy proposals are playing right into the hands of extremists...

Newly elected London mayor slams Trump’s ‘ignorant’ view of Islam
Sadiq Khan says the presumptive Republican presidential nominee risks 'alienating mainstream Muslims around the world and plays into the hands of the extremists.' Newly elected London mayor slams Trump’s ‘ignorant’ view of Islam

By JILL LAWLESSThe Associated Press

LONDON — London Mayor Sadiq Khan on Tuesday slammed Donald Trump’s “ignorant” view of Islam, after the Republican presidential contender suggested Khan could be exempted from a proposed temporary ban on Muslims entering the United States.

Last year Trump proposed “a total and complete” ban on foreign Muslims entering the U.S. “until our country’s representatives can figure out what the hell is going on.”

Asked how that policy would affect London’s first Muslim mayor, Trump told The New York Times that “there will always be exceptions.”

But Khan said “this isn’t just about me – it’s about my friends, my family and everyone who comes from a background similar to mine, anywhere in the world.”

“Donald Trump’s ignorant view of Islam could make both our countries less safe – it risks alienating mainstream Muslims around the world and plays into the hands of the extremists,” Khan said in a statement.

Khan, the London-born son of Pakistani immigrants, was elected last week by a wide margin after a campaign that saw his Conservative rival Zac Goldsmith accuse him of having shared platforms with Islamic extremists.

Khan, a former human rights lawyer and Labour Party lawmaker, accused Goldsmith of trying to frighten and divide voters in a multicultural city of 8.6 million people – more than 1 million of them Muslims.

In his victory speech, Khan said the result marked the triumph of “hope over fear and unity over division.”

The mayor said Tuesday that Trump and people who agree with him “think that western liberal values are incompatible with mainstream Islam – London has proved him wrong.”

Trump said he was “happy to see” Khan’s election and hoped “he does a good job.”

The mayor declined to lend Trump his support.

“I’ll be backing the Democratic candidate – Hillary Clinton, who I suspect it will be – and I hope that she trounces him,” Khan told the BBC.

 

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  posted on 5/10/2016 at 11:36 AM
Goodness gracious, we must not alienate the extremists, because that would be wrong.

 

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