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  posted on 9/5/2012 at 09:53 AM
Found a copy of "Gregg Allman - One More Try: An Anthology" at a local used CD shop the other day. Anybody remember why this came out and went out of print so quickly? There's some real gems on here. Nothing against Percy Sledge, but Gregg KILLS on his version of "When A Man Loves A Woman"!!!

 

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  posted on 9/5/2012 at 10:02 AM
it was compiled while he was still on the sauce

when he sobered up, he didn't want it out, so he had it pulled


 

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  posted on 9/5/2012 at 10:17 AM
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it was compiled while he was still on the sauce

when he sobered up, he didn't want it out, so he had it pulled




Really? I love that CD.
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  posted on 9/5/2012 at 11:01 AM
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  posted on 9/5/2012 at 03:23 PM
I have it and I can see why he didn't want too much of that material out there.

 

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  posted on 9/5/2012 at 05:06 PM
I wrote the liner notes tot his and worked on the compilation a bit with Kirk West. It was delayed for a while for various reasons, finally ca e out and was promptly pulled. Clearly Gregg's right to control what is out in his name, but I think it's mostly great music that reveals another side of him. I wish more people could hear it.

 

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  posted on 9/5/2012 at 06:12 PM
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One More Try is essential Gregg Allman.

Well worth spending some cash for it.


I would agree here. I listened to it continuously when I first got it.

 

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  posted on 9/5/2012 at 06:54 PM
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I wrote the liner notes tot his and worked on the compilation a bit with Kirk West. It was delayed for a while for various reasons, finally ca e out and was promptly pulled. Clearly Gregg's right to control what is out in his name, but I think it's mostly great music that reveals another side of him. I wish more people could hear it.


I concur.

I do prefer Searching For Simplicity though.

 

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  posted on 9/5/2012 at 07:12 PM
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Found a copy of "Gregg Allman - One More Try: An Anthology" at a local used CD shop the other day. Anybody remember why this came out and went out of print so quickly? There's some real gems on here. Nothing against Percy Sledge, but Gregg KILLS on his version of "When A Man Loves A Woman"!!!


Would love o hear this album....

There are still record ...eh..cd stores?

 

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  posted on 9/5/2012 at 07:13 PM
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One More Try is essential Gregg Allman.

Well worth spending some cash for it.


I would agree here. I listened to it continuously when I first got it.


Me too.

This is what it's all about. I love the alt takes and rough demo cuts. Would just as soon hear this as a polished studio album or CD. Here you get a chance to see where some of the songs evolved from. There's some classic stuff here. I'd love to hear more of this stuff but doubt it'll ever be marketed if it's even sitting in a vault.

 

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  posted on 9/5/2012 at 09:53 PM
"I love the alt takes and rough demo cuts. Would just as soon hear this as a polished studio album or CD."

I think this is a significant philosophical difference between you and Gregg Allman.

Gregg seems to be quite the perfectionist about recordings, and when given the option of releasing something that has value but has some imperfections, he appears to prefer we never hear it at all. This apparently applies to live recordings as well as demos, alternate takes, etc.

Such a shame....

 
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  posted on 9/6/2012 at 07:02 AM
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"I love the alt takes and rough demo cuts. Would just as soon hear this as a polished studio album or CD."

I think this is a significant philosophical difference between you and Gregg Allman.

Gregg seems to be quite the perfectionist about recordings, and when given the option of releasing something that has value but has some imperfections, he appears to prefer we never hear it at all. This apparently applies to live recordings as well as demos, alternate takes, etc.

Such a shame....


Yep - I think you nailed that one. In the end, it's Gregg's call as long as he still retains ownership. In the end, the long time fans lose out. I'll just say it's a "Crying Shame".

 

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  posted on 9/6/2012 at 04:26 PM
Yes , the old demos and alternate takes are very
enjoyable , rough as some may be . I would just
love to hear some studio outakes from the whole
Brothers & Sisters / Laid Back timeframe , lots of
great players on those recordings . Both records
were sort of intertwined as far as the recording
went , at Capricorn , and this was the time that
Chuck Leavell really started to leave his mark on
things . Late 1972 , '73 , early '74 , ahh , to be
able to travel back......................

 

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  posted on 9/7/2012 at 07:35 AM
after reading through this, i decided to dig this set out and give it a spin

some good **** on there, and some questionable stuff as well

I always consider this one of those quiet moment albums that you can throw on
late at night and chill to

 

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  posted on 9/7/2012 at 07:59 AM
I love that CD. His best solo stuff IMO but in the world of making records by pros, the tracks are very rough. For the fans, they're great but Gregg probably considers them like we consider a bad day in the office.

Just like many people feel the the duck tape sessions are better than Searching for Simplicity. In many ways , like the mix and band playing it is but I think Gregg's voice doesn't sound good at all. I think it was before he sobered up. I almost hear him slurring at times on those recordings.

 

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  posted on 9/8/2012 at 05:46 PM
As far as the Duck Tape vs. Searching For Simplicity argument goes ... it is my understanding that Gregg left in a huff and had Tom Dowd mix the SFS down instead of Johnny, omitting a couple of tracks and adding the godawful novelty "Memphis In The Meantime." IMO anybody who prefers SFS over the Duck Tapes needs his head checked even if it is Gregg Allman. I found it interesting that little was brought to light about that time in either book (Gregg's or Johnny's). To be honest Gregg should feel great that he is still appreciated ... in spite of himself. He (like Dickey) I'm sure is next to impossible manage, but the missed opportunities that both have had out to give them some consternation. Just my .02.

 

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  posted on 9/8/2012 at 06:00 PM
Not the first time someone has suggested I get my "head checked" but it's usually aboot hockey.

I still prefer SFS.

 

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  posted on 9/8/2012 at 07:15 PM
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As far as the Duck Tape vs. Searching For Simplicity argument goes ... it is my understanding that Gregg left in a huff and had Tom Dowd mix the SFS down instead of Johnny, omitting a couple of tracks and adding the godawful novelty "Memphis In The Meantime." IMO anybody who prefers SFS over the Duck Tapes needs his head checked even if it is Gregg Allman. I found it interesting that little was brought to light about that time in either book (Gregg's or Johnny's). To be honest Gregg should feel great that he is still appreciated ... in spite of himself. He (like Dickey) I'm sure is next to impossible manage, but the missed opportunities that both have had out to give them some consternation. Just my .02.


Good post.

Yeah, what's the deal with "Memphis In The Meantime" included on that CD? I mean, I like the tune but thought it seemed out of place on this collection of songs. Was it added to fill up time or what?

To my ears, it didn't seem to have the same recording tone as the other songs.

 

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  posted on 9/8/2012 at 08:41 PM
D28 I believe Gregg added the tune to give Mark McGee, the outstanding player that had been a major part of the GAB for the longest time, a chance to appear on record. A noble gesture to a deserving cat. But unfortunately if that's all Mark has to mark his tenure with Gregg, then ... he'd be better off with no documentation like Buzz Feiten or Robben Ford for that matter. The fact that Gregg didn't record those incarnations of the GAB (Just a live CD or DVD.) show how FU he was/is. My understanding is he was supposed to be sober during that time. What great bands/music those were. I'm sorry but Scott Sharrard can't hold a candle to any of those guys including McGee IMO.

 

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D28 I believe Gregg added the tune to give Mark McGee, the outstanding player that had been a major part of the GAB for the longest time, a chance to appear on record. A noble gesture to a deserving cat. But unfortunately if that's all Mark has to mark his tenure with Gregg, then ... he'd be better off with no documentation like Buzz Feiten or Robben Ford for that matter. The fact that Gregg didn't record those incarnations of the GAB (Just a live CD or DVD.) show how FU he was/is. My understanding is he was supposed to be sober during that time. What great bands/music those were. I'm sorry but Scott Sharrard can't hold a candle to any of those guys including McGee IMO.


Charlesinator - Thanks for the response. I've seen seen shows with almost every incarnation of bands Gregg has toured with. I saw the version with Mark McGee several times, which initially included other members of his core band, the Alameda Allstars. Mark is quite a player. Gregg has always had quality guitar players in his band including Feiten & Ford, as you mentioned. I still have a lot of appreciation and like the sound Tommy Talton brought to the orchestra tour with Gregg, as well as the years Danny Toler played lead & recorded the 2 GAB albums. Danny seemed like a really good fit with Gregg.

To add to your post, I don't think any of the current band that tours with Gregg have recorded with him. This band has been intact for a bunch of years now. I believe Gregg's latest CD (LCB) was recorded with studio musicians and Dr. John.

 

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  posted on 9/9/2012 at 10:42 AM
You are correct, MartinD28. Low Country Blues featured the "T-Bone Allstars" and Dr. John, not Gregg's current touring band. I recall some Gregg fans being disappointed by that. This is one of the ways in which LCB was like a T-Bone Burnett record featuring special guest vocalist Gregg Allman.

Having said that, any time you have an opportunity to have Dr. John in your band, DO IT!

 
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  posted on 9/9/2012 at 01:28 PM
w/Bonnie Bramlett: Win, Lose, or Draw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1C5Ff-7htk&feature=plcp

Bring It On Back (Demo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVgRo1qJayY&feature=plcp

God Rest His Soul (record version 1974)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh5TtwGS880&feature=plcp

One More Try (Demo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WONDfMQoR1Y&feature=plcp

Adam Song's/Shadow Dream Song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gyALitE7QI&feature=plcp

Multi Colored Lady (Demo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEpSKMcEdOk&feature=related

[Edited on 9/9/2012 by allmansrvvegas]

 

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w/Bonnie Bramlett: Win, Lose, or Draw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1C5Ff-7htk&feature=plcp

Bring It On Back (Demo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVgRo1qJayY&feature=plcp

God Rest His Soul (record version 1974)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh5TtwGS880&feature=plcp

One More Try (Demo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WONDfMQoR1Y&feature=plcp

Adam Song's/Shadow Dream Song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gyALitE7QI&feature=plcp

Multi Colored Lady (Demo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEpSKMcEdOk&feature=related

[Edited on 9/9/2012 by allmansrvvegas]


Listening to those reminds of why I love Gregg Allman solo....the songwriting,the mood captured in each song,the evocative piano or guitar playing and the deep respect for the song itself.And,a voice that puts it all together.For me,these songs bring me to very particular places and people in my past....great memories and feelings in these songs....

 

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  posted on 9/10/2012 at 06:22 AM
I like One More Try


Searching For Simplicity ....I can't remember the last time I played that. WAY to over produced.

 

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  posted on 4/22/2017 at 01:56 PM
New member, and glad to be among the family.

I just scored two of these beauties for around $30 shipped.

They should arrive by Wednesday. I've been searching for years for affordable copies, and my search is over.

 
 


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