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  posted on 7/3/2012 at 08:17 AM
Going tonight at Jones Beach.

I'm not a big Phish guy. This will be the 2nd time I'm seeing them. I went 12/30/11 at Madison Square Garden.

Looking forward to it, as I love live music. I still don't "get it" all the time, but there should be some good moments. A nice night under the stars with some decent music is all anyone could ask for. $60 this day in age is not really a lot of $ to see a band, IMHO.

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  posted on 7/8/2012 at 02:08 PM
I've tried to like Phish, I've seen them three times. I like their jamming but as soon as they start singing their inane lyrics it just turns me off. I was just listening to last nights show on the Sirius/XM Jam On channel and this lyric was repeated several times:

"Tires are the things on your car that contact the road"

Seriously?

 

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  posted on 7/8/2012 at 05:05 PM
Phish does have some silly lyrics, but not all their songs are like that.

The very same show from last night featured Maze and Rift, which have some of my favorite lyrics.

Here is a stanza from Rift....

And silence, contagious in moments like these
Consumed me and strengthened my will to appease
The passion that sparked me one terrible night
and shocked and persuaded my soul to ignite


I'm not saying they don't have some silly/absurd lyrics, but there is more to Phish than Contact.

 
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  posted on 7/8/2012 at 08:14 PM
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I've tried to like Phish, I've seen them three times. I like their jamming but as soon as they start singing their inane lyrics it just turns me off. I was just listening to last nights show on the Sirius/XM Jam On channel and this lyric was repeated several times:

"Tires are the things on your car that contact the road"

Seriously?


That's a Syd Barrett song.

 

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  posted on 7/8/2012 at 09:44 PM
^no it's not. Your thinking of Bike by Syd Barrett. the above song is called Contact
 

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  posted on 7/8/2012 at 10:43 PM
I like Trey's guitar playing.

 

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  posted on 7/12/2012 at 01:36 AM
Read Phish the Biography book and it is a good read. Makes me want to listen to a lot of the early era (right now I mostly listen to shows that just happened). Found the reason they did DSOTM funny.

Someone mentioned 10/31/1996 as a good show well I got that on now. Can't wait to get to the Talking Heads set

 

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  posted on 7/12/2012 at 04:33 AM
if you haven't heard any older stuff, you should definitely check out 93 - 98

was at the show Sunday night at SPACn(7-08) and it was great.
They're getting their old groove back.


 

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  posted on 7/12/2012 at 11:10 AM
I have been listening to Phish since the early 90's. It was hard for me to initially GET their music. Then I heard about the Halloween shows where they covered an entire legendary album. Then I started listening to the Gamehenge portions of shows and heard some amazing improvisation going down. Then Farmhouse came out and I really digged the songwriting they accomplished there. And I paid specific close attention to the acoustic songs and thought wow. Then last year I finally went to see them for the first time. And they blew m mind. And I was sober.

Just my .02.

 

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  posted on 7/12/2012 at 12:39 PM
What groove? They have never had any to get back.

 

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  posted on 7/12/2012 at 01:08 PM
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What groove? They have never had any to get back.



Most ignorant post on here, without question....the goal, typically, is to make people (at the very least) THINK you know what you're talking about, not absolutely prove you don't.

 

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  posted on 7/12/2012 at 03:11 PM
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What groove? They have never had any to get back.



Most ignorant post on here, without question....the goal, typically, is to make people (at the very least) THINK you know what you're talking about, not absolutely prove you don't.


Thanks Quagmire, never been my goal to try and make people think I know what I am talking about, but thanks for pointing that out to me, I feel better now, hope you do to!

 

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  posted on 7/12/2012 at 04:50 PM
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What groove? They have never had any to get back.



Seriously? Their playing after their first hiatus sickened and bored me. They were a shale of their former selves then. So uninspiring that they would roll thru town and I wouldn't even care about missing them... which would have been blasphemy for me during the 90's. At least now they are back to having fun and tightening up.

 

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  posted on 7/12/2012 at 05:33 PM
If you don't like Phish that's cool but why talk sh*t about their musical ability. I don't like Skynrd but I don't say things like Skynrd is just a glorified bar band. I don't like Zeppelin but I don't go on Zeppelin threads saying that they are a bunch of unoriginal hacks who took writing credits for changing one vocal melody in a song recorded 20 years earlier....ok now I get it, it's fun to ruffle peoples feathers on the Internet

 

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  posted on 7/12/2012 at 06:41 PM
Phish-heads, Phish-heads, rolly polly Phish-heads. Phish-heads, Phish-heads, eat them up, yum.
 

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  posted on 7/12/2012 at 07:55 PM
Glad you got to see that 7/8 show, stormyrider. Thanks to the miracle of the Internet, I've been listening to it this week and I'm blown away. Probably the best show of the tour, and this tour has had more good shows than any Phish tour in over a decade.

I can see criticizing Phish for lack of groove like Wayne did, that is a weakness of theirs at times. Fair point. I have said that I don't like when they try to play blues or funk tunes for that very reason.

However, their strength has always been very complex, technical playing in the vein of artist like Frank Zappa and King Crimson, and you can't do that unless you have great chops. Trey's playing on David Bowie and Split Open and Melt at the 7/8 show is, to my ears, the best he has nailed their more intricate compositions in a long, long time.

Like islalala said, when Trey declined so badly due to opiate addiction, it was downright painful to listen to him try to play some of the songs that he himself wrote. It makes me feel good that he has managed to stay alive, get sober, and get back to being one of the best guitarists on Earth.

I realize Phish isn't for everybody, but for those of us who like them, this is a very exciting time, similar to when the ABB came back in 1989. Something beautiful that was thought to be gone forever has come back, and that's a good thing.

 
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  posted on 7/12/2012 at 10:28 PM
Good point Rob, that is probably why I never really got in to them. Speaking of the technical aspect of their playing, I have to admit, I bought the bootleg of the Halloween 1994 show where they played The Beatles White album (except for Good Night, I think) back when it came out in '95 and I played it all the time, they were spot on the night of that show.

Went to one of their shows back then, but it did nothing for me. It's funny, I feel that way about Widespread Panic these days too. Loved the first 3 albums, especially the one Sandlin produced, but after those, I lost interest.

Give me The Doors, 70's ABB, Pink Floyd, Otis, Albert King, Jimi... That is the groove for me.

 

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  posted on 7/12/2012 at 10:36 PM
the thing about Phish jams, to my ears, anyway, it's about creating a sound that comes from the entire band, as opposed to a soloist just blowing the roof off the place.
Trey did an interview with Charlie Rose just before the break-up, when asked about guitar solos, he said that he doesn't play guitar solos, it's the whole band improvising. When theyr'e on, that's what it is, and it's great.
Personally, I think Trey is a good (not great) guitar player, at times a great composer, and Mike, Page, and Fish are all excellent at their instruments.

I can understand not liking it - it's not for everyone.
different strokes

 

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  posted on 7/16/2012 at 04:32 PM
Check this youtube out them playing with Neil Young.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YK_XPZ_Xhg
or them playing Terrapin Station!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhd7MXwpLec&feature=related
or Led Zeppelin's No Quarter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyZnvRwYn7k&feature=related

 

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  posted on 7/17/2012 at 02:04 AM
Phish is a lot like sushi (no pun intended), it is an acquired taste. Most people who try sushi don't like it at first. However, while there are some people who will never eat it again, there are that come back and become lifelong consumers of it. Strangely, I prefer the members of Phish outside the of band in their various and different projects. One thing I don't like about Phish fans is them telling me that I don't get the intricacies and genius of the music.

 

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Phish is a lot like sushi (no pun intended), it is an acquired taste. Most people who try sushi don't like it at first. However, while there are some people who will never eat it again, there are that come back and become lifelong consumers of it. Strangely, I prefer the members of Phish outside the of band in their various and different projects. One thing I don't like about Phish fans is them telling me that I don't get the intricacies and genius of the music.

 

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  posted on 7/17/2012 at 11:39 AM
I don't know about you all, but all this talk about Phish has me wanting to go fishing bad. Wott type of fish is a Phish? Saltwater or fresh? They like live bait or can you catch em on artificial?

 

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  posted on 7/11/2014 at 11:41 AM
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On another post somebody referenced a rumour on a phish board, and I googled it to see myself. I was reminded of yet another reason why I hate phish. One minute reading some of the trash on that board reminded me how retarded most of those wooks are. phish to me has a collection of trust fund d bag fans that largely know jack s**t about music. Musically to me, phish plays with absolutely no taste, no sense of the roots of American music, and is just lame a** white kid trust fund junk. I won't discuss their lyrics as they are the weakest goofiest lyrics in the word, vocally it is garbage as well.

My intent is not to offend anyone, but I'm curious if anyone on here hates phish as much as me? Or if anyone here actually likes phish?


Phish's fanbase has been like that for awhile but you can say the same about trust fund deadheads.

I know the site you're writing about and it's silly.

I used to love phish but I'm not a big fan of their new music or how their playing isn't like it was when I first saw them decades ago.

If you or other people don't like phish that's OK. I'm not a fan of all the bands I hear or have seen live. For example the way you feel about phish I feel that way about the band moe. I don't hate them but I just do not go to their shows, or buy or listen to their music.

I saw moe. open up for the ABB twice, and in highschool I did buy two moe. CDs including a live one but I don't understand how there are some fans of moe. who have seen them 50-100+ times, go to their festival, etc.

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  posted on 7/11/2014 at 12:25 PM
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I don't know about you all, but all this talk about Phish has me wanting to go fishing bad. Wott type of fish is a Phish? Saltwater or fresh? They like live bait or can you catch em on artificial?


Wott type of fish is a Phish? Saltwater or fresh?

Tilapia = sold as a poor version of the real thing

 

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  posted on 7/11/2014 at 02:08 PM
Phish,I think all they really do is support a scene

 

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