Don't click or your IP will be banned


Hittin' The Web with the Allman Brothers Band Forum
You are not logged in

< Last Thread   Next Thread ><<  1    2  >>Ascending sortDescending sorting  
Author: Subject: Down loading torrents

Extreme Peach





Posts: 1574
(1580 all sites)
Registered: 10/8/2009
Status: Offline

  posted on 1/10/2010 at 09:01 PM
I have recently gotten into this.

Any advice on the do's and don't of torrent downloading?

 
Replies:

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 25201
(25201 all sites)
Registered: 9/7/2005
Status: Offline

  posted on 1/10/2010 at 10:20 PM
be sure to share by leaving your client running after you have finished your download.

 

____________________
Keep on Smiling


 

World Class Peach



Karma:
Posts: 5529
(5528 all sites)
Registered: 4/18/2002
Status: Offline

  posted on 1/10/2010 at 10:29 PM
Scan the file with your anti-virus before opening it up.

 

____________________
All photos posted of family, friends, and places, including those of historic ABB value, by this poster are copyrighted by the poster, or posted by permission of the copywriter.
None of those photos may be reproduced for commercial gain.

 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 16174
(16174 all sites)
Registered: 10/6/2004
Status: Offline

  posted on 1/10/2010 at 10:51 PM
Yeah I got into it too and then Piratebay went away

Not sure where to go now...

 

____________________
Missing- 245 spines. If found, please send one to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave and the rest to the Capitol building care of the Democratic Party.

 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 20943
(20942 all sites)
Registered: 6/15/2005
Status: Offline

  posted on 1/10/2010 at 10:52 PM
etree.

 

____________________

 

World Class Peach



Karma:
Posts: 5529
(5528 all sites)
Registered: 4/18/2002
Status: Offline

  posted on 1/10/2010 at 10:58 PM
Internet Archive
http://www.archive.org

 

____________________
All photos posted of family, friends, and places, including those of historic ABB value, by this poster are copyrighted by the poster, or posted by permission of the copywriter.
None of those photos may be reproduced for commercial gain.

 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 27533
(27822 all sites)
Registered: 2/18/2006
Status: Offline

  posted on 1/10/2010 at 11:42 PM
I feel like I'm in a foreign country here and I don't speak the language.

 

____________________
Sometimes we can't choose the music life gives us - but we damn sure can choose how we dance!


 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 67524
(68041 all sites)
Registered: 10/27/2002
Status: Offline

  posted on 1/10/2010 at 11:51 PM
quote:
Yeah I got into it too and then Piratebay went away

Not sure where to go now...


Demonoid.

 

____________________
Hittin' The Web::Hugh Duty Memorial Giveaway has begun!

RIP Hugh Duty

 

Extreme Peach



Karma:
Posts: 1574
(1580 all sites)
Registered: 10/8/2009
Status: Offline

  posted on 1/11/2010 at 12:12 AM
What about the moral aspects of downloading torrents?

Aren't they almost all things that are technically illegal?

 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 25201
(25201 all sites)
Registered: 9/7/2005
Status: Offline

  posted on 1/11/2010 at 01:55 AM
quote:
What about the moral aspects of downloading torrents?

Aren't they almost all things that are technically illegal?


bit torrent technology is not illegal, sharing copywrited files on bit torrent is illegal.
It depends on the content that is being shared.

If you are downloading live shows that the artist has waved the copyright for, (bands that allow live taping and sharing) then it is not illegal.

the ABB allows live taping but now downloading. so a ABB torrent would be illegal even though the files
are not copywrited.

some bands even sell stuff from their sites using bit torrent. (dgmlive.com for example)

Linux distributions can be had from bit torrent.

lots of legal uses.





 

____________________
Keep on Smiling


 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 16174
(16174 all sites)
Registered: 10/6/2004
Status: Offline

  posted on 1/11/2010 at 06:43 AM
quote:
quote:
What about the moral aspects of downloading torrents?

Aren't they almost all things that are technically illegal?


bit torrent technology is not illegal, sharing copywrited files on bit torrent is illegal.
It depends on the content that is being shared.

If you are downloading live shows that the artist has waved the copyright for, (bands that allow live taping and sharing) then it is not illegal.

the ABB allows live taping but now downloading. so a ABB torrent would be illegal even though the files
are not copywrited.

some bands even sell stuff from their sites using bit torrent. (dgmlive.com for example)

Linux distributions can be had from bit torrent.

lots of legal uses.








Well said. Its all about what you do with it. I find it interesting that the ABB allows live taping but not distribution (such as torrents). Im not sure what the difference is on the surface. Whats the difference in allowing the general public to record at a show and allowing that same general public to download a copy of that same show?

 

____________________
Missing- 245 spines. If found, please send one to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave and the rest to the Capitol building care of the Democratic Party.

 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 16174
(16174 all sites)
Registered: 10/6/2004
Status: Offline

  posted on 1/11/2010 at 06:44 AM
quote:
quote:
Yeah I got into it too and then Piratebay went away

Not sure where to go now...


Demonoid.




Nice! Thanks.

 

____________________
Missing- 245 spines. If found, please send one to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave and the rest to the Capitol building care of the Democratic Party.

 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 20943
(20942 all sites)
Registered: 6/15/2005
Status: Offline

  posted on 1/11/2010 at 01:03 PM
quote:
What about the moral aspects of downloading torrents?

Aren't they almost all things that are technically illegal?


Not at all. They are completely and totally legal. One of the defining characteristics of most jam bands is that they allow the taping and electronic trading of their shows. The Allman Brothers do not allow electronic trading but they do allow taping and physical burning and distribution of shows on disc through the mail.

 

____________________

 

Peach Master



Karma:
Posts: 999
(999 all sites)
Registered: 10/7/2005
Status: Offline

  posted on 1/11/2010 at 02:09 PM
btjunkie.org

 

____________________

 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 25201
(25201 all sites)
Registered: 9/7/2005
Status: Offline

  posted on 1/11/2010 at 02:24 PM
quote:
quote:

Well said. Its all about what you do with it. I find it interesting that the ABB allows live taping but not distribution (such as torrents). Im not sure what the difference is on the surface. Whats the difference in allowing the general public to record at a show and allowing that same general public to download a copy of that same show?


I agree. I'm perplexed by the hidden logic myself. My only theory is that by allowing torrent downloads, it reduces the sense of community we have as traders of music (?). In the old days before the internet, the trading experience was a little different...actually had to physically meet with someone. I guess the Allman Brothers Band prefers the sense of community that obtaining their music via their currently allowed methods allows (?)


downloading is anonymous, trading is not.

no DL policy keeps a community of traders involved in the sharing.

Downloading can be very vampiric, you can just suck on the line and never give anything back.

Trading has more humanity to it.




 

____________________
Keep on Smiling


 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 16174
(16174 all sites)
Registered: 10/6/2004
Status: Offline

  posted on 1/12/2010 at 04:57 PM
quote:
quote:
quote:

Well said. Its all about what you do with it. I find it interesting that the ABB allows live taping but not distribution (such as torrents). Im not sure what the difference is on the surface. Whats the difference in allowing the general public to record at a show and allowing that same general public to download a copy of that same show?


I agree. I'm perplexed by the hidden logic myself. My only theory is that by allowing torrent downloads, it reduces the sense of community we have as traders of music (?). In the old days before the internet, the trading experience was a little different...actually had to physically meet with someone. I guess the Allman Brothers Band prefers the sense of community that obtaining their music via their currently allowed methods allows (?)


downloading is anonymous, trading is not.

no DL policy keeps a community of traders involved in the sharing.

Downloading can be very vampiric, you can just suck on the line and never give anything back.

Trading has more humanity to it.







Good points as usual.

 

____________________
Missing- 245 spines. If found, please send one to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave and the rest to the Capitol building care of the Democratic Party.

 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 18570
(18615 all sites)
Registered: 1/2/2003
Status: Offline

  posted on 1/12/2010 at 06:12 PM
quote:
quote:
quote:

Well said. Its all about what you do with it. I find it interesting that the ABB allows live taping but not distribution (such as torrents). Im not sure what the difference is on the surface. Whats the difference in allowing the general public to record at a show and allowing that same general public to download a copy of that same show?


I agree. I'm perplexed by the hidden logic myself. My only theory is that by allowing torrent downloads, it reduces the sense of community we have as traders of music (?). In the old days before the internet, the trading experience was a little different...actually had to physically meet with someone. I guess the Allman Brothers Band prefers the sense of community that obtaining their music via their currently allowed methods allows (?)


downloading is anonymous, trading is not.

no DL policy keeps a community of traders involved in the sharing.

Downloading can be very vampiric, you can just suck on the line and never give anything back.

Trading has more humanity to it.







I made a lot of friends back in my trading days

 

____________________
It was fun while it lasted




 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 16610
(16610 all sites)
Registered: 6/4/2004
Status: Offline

  posted on 1/12/2010 at 07:35 PM
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:

Well said. Its all about what you do with it. I find it interesting that the ABB allows live taping but not distribution (such as torrents). Im not sure what the difference is on the surface. Whats the difference in allowing the general public to record at a show and allowing that same general public to download a copy of that same show?


I agree. I'm perplexed by the hidden logic myself. My only theory is that by allowing torrent downloads, it reduces the sense of community we have as traders of music (?). In the old days before the internet, the trading experience was a little different...actually had to physically meet with someone. I guess the Allman Brothers Band prefers the sense of community that obtaining their music via their currently allowed methods allows (?)


downloading is anonymous, trading is not.

no DL policy keeps a community of traders involved in the sharing.

Downloading can be very vampiric, you can just suck on the line and never give anything back.

Trading has more humanity to it.







I made a lot of friends back in my trading days


I learned all about trading and sharing from some great people on this site.

 

____________________


R.I.P. Hugh Duty


 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 16610
(16610 all sites)
Registered: 6/4/2004
Status: Offline

  posted on 1/12/2010 at 07:35 PM
www.dimeadozen.org/index.php

 

____________________


R.I.P. Hugh Duty


 

Maximum Peach



Karma:
Posts: 9317
(9394 all sites)
Registered: 10/29/2004
Status: Offline

  posted on 1/12/2010 at 08:10 PM
I just sent a friend an email on a torrent I found on his recently released cd. I thought it was illegal without permission from the artist?

 

____________________
Well 30 years of heart and soul,lord we took it further than rock and roll.
We stood together thru thick and thin,yeah we made the best of it all back then.
Then I guess time took it's toll,cut me deep,cut me cold.
Brother against brother....

 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 20943
(20942 all sites)
Registered: 6/15/2005
Status: Offline

  posted on 1/12/2010 at 08:23 PM
quote:
I just sent a friend an email on a torrent I found on his recently released cd. I thought it was illegal without permission from the artist?


It is.

 

____________________

 

True Peach



Karma:
Posts: 11157
(11157 all sites)
Registered: 9/17/2007
Status: Offline

  posted on 1/12/2010 at 08:31 PM
quote:
quote:
quote:
Yeah I got into it too and then Piratebay went away

Not sure where to go now...


Demonoid.




Nice! Thanks.


Personally I don't know how Demonoid and mininova.org continue to exist. They must have some good lawyers. I started using bit-torrent back in 2004 on a site called "Sharing the Groove" (STG). It was a little loose legal wise and was shutdown but restarted as Dimeadozen. All the STG users were automatically moved to Dimeadozen overnight . However it is my understanding there is a waiting list to get on Dimeadozen. As mentioned there are other bit-torrent sites, thetradersden.org, bt.etree.org, etc...

Dimeadozen.org strictly adheres to the rules/honors band requests that don't allow electronic trading.

IMHO and as an example, the ABB allowing taping but a strict trading policy with only snail mail leads to confusion and pollution towards the quality of Duane era shows. Information on lineage is important and also the deterrent policing of mp3 propagation, which Dimeadozen does a good job at.

 

Extreme Peach



Karma:
Posts: 1574
(1580 all sites)
Registered: 10/8/2009
Status: Offline

  posted on 1/12/2010 at 09:20 PM
Let's cut to the chase here..

Last night I got Once Upon A Time in The West off of a torrent.

I don't have extra money, and I never would have bought the DVD for the ridiculous $20 or so it would have cost for this product---- that would have cost about $1 (if not way less) to produce. In my mind this wasn't wrong. I wasn't going to spend the money, that's for sure..so they weren't missing anything. I've been waiting for the movie to show up on TV but it never does...

Am I breaking the law or was I morally wrong for downloading it?

I believe most people would go back to old fashioned DVD's or CD's if they were reasonably priced. But do they really expect us to pay more than three or four dollars for these worthless things?

[Edited on 1/13/2010 by annarose3]

 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 16174
(16174 all sites)
Registered: 10/6/2004
Status: Offline

  posted on 1/13/2010 at 08:49 AM
quote:
quote:
I just sent a friend an email on a torrent I found on his recently released cd. I thought it was illegal without permission from the artist?


It is.


Well, sort of. The technology behind 'torrents' involves using bits and bytes from potentially hundreds of users to provide all the files necessary for a CD or a song or video etc.. This is why individuals are not typically caught and the legal teams go after the sites.

 

____________________
Missing- 245 spines. If found, please send one to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave and the rest to the Capitol building care of the Democratic Party.

 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 16174
(16174 all sites)
Registered: 10/6/2004
Status: Offline

  posted on 1/13/2010 at 08:54 AM
quote:
Am I breaking the law or was I morally wrong for downloading it?


Hot potato time! LOL.

You might be breaking the law..it just depends on how its written with regard to torrents.

This might help answer any specific questions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_issues_with_BitTorrent

http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/11/26/151243/Mininova-Removes-All-Copyrig ht-Infringing-Torrents?from=rss

As for the moral question, thats up to you...if you read and decide that torrents are a form of theft (and some people think it is due to the copyright issues), then you may believe yourself to be stealing from the artists. Typically, if you have a question about the morality of an action, its your conscience talking to you.

 

____________________
Missing- 245 spines. If found, please send one to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave and the rest to the Capitol building care of the Democratic Party.

 
<<  1    2  >>  


Powered by XForum 1.81.1 by Trollix Software

Privacy | Terms of Service | Report Infringement | Personal Data Management | Contact Us
The ALLMAN BROTHERS BAND name, The ALLMAN BROTHERS name, likenesses, logos, mushroom design and peach truck are all registered trademarks of THE ABB MERCHANDISING CO., INC. whose rights are specifically reserved. Any artwork, visual, or audio representations used on this web site CONTAINING ANY REGISTERED TRADEMARKS are under license from The ABB MERCHANDISING CO., INC. A REVOCABLE, GRATIS LICENSE IS GRANTED TO ALL REGISTERED PEACH CORP MEMBERS FOR The DOWNLOADING OF ONE COPY FOR PERSONAL USE ONLY. ANY DISTRIBUTION OR REPRODUCTION OF THE TRADEMARKS CONTAINED HEREIN ARE PROHIBITED AND ARE SPECIFICALLY RESERVED BY THE ABB MERCHANDISING CO.,INC.
site by Hittin' the Web Group with www.experiencewasabi3d.com