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Zen Peach



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  posted on 1/29/2020 at 09:59 AM
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I mentioned it and I will continue to mention it because it is THE problem in the gun issue ...


But I thought you said it was a mental health issue? Yet another straw argument from the scarecrow.


Anyone who deems it OK and sane to acquire a weapon and turn it loose on innocent people has a Mental Health issue, period. Make all the new laws you want, this will do absolutely nothing to stop people from gaining access to guns illegally.

 

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  posted on 1/29/2020 at 10:45 AM
Been unarmed thru a lifetime of plenty real danger and around lots of screwed up people with guns, cops and robbers both - situations where if I had pulled a gun instead of using my wits I would have been dead. Pulled a gun nothing, more like sneezed and been dead And been armed in a lot of situations where it was unnecessary.

I have a lot more faith in humanity than you think. You wanr to carry all day every day go ahead. I dont need it.



 

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  posted on 1/29/2020 at 11:47 AM
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Anyone who deems it OK and sane to acquire a weapon and turn it loose on innocent people has a Mental Health issue, period.


agreed. we should probably figure out a way to stop them from buying legally. i bet we agree on this, just a matter of how.

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Make all the new laws you want, this will do absolutely nothing to stop people from gaining access to guns illegally.


Criminals already cannot purchase because of background checks, and yes, they’ll always get them on the black market. we’ve seen so many mass shooters that are deranged millennials who live with their parents (giffords shooter in AZ, the kid who dressed as the joker in the theater).....do you really believe these weaklings would be able to navigate the black market? I just think we should force these fools into the black market so they can maybe get caught prior to the shooting. just my own personal opinion. but if that would upset folks, then whatever. It is what it is.



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  posted on 1/29/2020 at 12:03 PM
This whole endless "what is your plan for keeping guns away from criminals" is just the old "if guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns" bumpersticker.

What you are saying is criminals are going to have guns no matter what. I agree. So carry if you want. Gun awareness classes, fine - I would have been happy to have weapons training in school.

Mandatory carry for all citizens is over the top, we have the right to not bear arms same as the right to bear arms.

 

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  posted on 1/29/2020 at 09:31 PM
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What you are saying is criminals are going to have guns no matter what. I agree.


Exactly. So, how do we end the "Black Market"? My thoughts?...You have to make the penalty for owning an unregistered weapon very severe. Want a "New Law"....


Start with that.

 

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  posted on 1/29/2020 at 09:53 PM
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Want a "New Law"....


Nope, dont want new laws, not in my state anyway. I cant speak for other states - but the laws in places I lived, AZ, Pacific NW are fine.


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Want a "New Law"....


Nope, dont want new laws, not in my state anyway. I cant speak for other states - but the laws in places I lived, AZ, Pacific NW are fine.


Look at that, we agree!

 

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  posted on 1/30/2020 at 11:54 AM
i’m glad the thread title was finally changed, thanks Jerry. now it’s 100% professional and respectful of others.
 

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  posted on 1/30/2020 at 12:25 PM
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Look at that, we agree!


Oregon is a true blue state, but the gun laws are rock solid constitutional here. We probably would diverge on L.A. or Chicago, I think urban freefire zones need to be handled by our military, with full ban and house to house disarmament. Kinda nazi of me I guess.



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  posted on 1/30/2020 at 01:26 PM
They’ve denied bail for the policeman who shot & killed a handcuffed suspect as the suspect sat in the police car, citing the cop as a danger to the community (not Baltimore but Temple Hills MD) - not directly pertinent to the thread, but a criminal has been taken off the streets, so the system works - this is plain-out murder

 

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  posted on 1/31/2020 at 03:36 PM
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What you are saying is criminals are going to have guns no matter what. I agree.


Exactly. So, how do we end the "Black Market"? My thoughts?...You have to make the penalty for owning an unregistered weapon very severe. Want a "New Law"....


Start with that.


No, let's not.
Canada tried that, didn't work, costly and inefficient.
The US Supreme Court says that criminals do not have to get licenses or register their weapons, as that would be "self incrimination" and against the 5th Amendment.
Germany did that in 1935. A few years later laws were introduced to ban Jews and others from owning firearms. Guess how they knew where to go?
Russia, same thing.

There are thousands of gun laws on the books. Some are good ones. Unfortunately politicians keep passing laws already on the books.

 

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