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  posted on 8/15/2019 at 05:46 PM
https://nypost.com/2019/08/15/jeffrey-epsteins-bodyguard-somebody-helped-hi m-kill-himself/
Epstein's bodyguard does not believe it was a suicide. Epstein's cellmate until one day before his handing was Nicholas Tartagliano, a former Westchester County Cop.

8-14-19 Epstein's lawyers said they were told Tartagliano roughed Epstein up recently. [which could be why Tartagliano was transferred to another cell]. Remember Epstein was found with bruises on his neck? Tartagliano was transferred to a cell near Epstein and denied hearing anything on the night of the murder when others say they heard shrieks and screams.

https://nypost.com/2019/08/14/epstein-told-lawyers-that-cellmate-nicholas-t artaglione-roughed-him-up/


WHO IS NICHOLAS TARTAGLIANO?

https://nypost.com/2019/03/21/prosecutors-to-seek-death-penalty-for-ex-cop- in-quadruple-homicide/
Tartaglione 3-21-19

The U.S. Attorney’s Office in Manhattan confirmed it will demand former officer Nicholas charged with killing Martin Luna, Urbano Santiago, Miguel Luna and Hector Gutierrez when a drug money transaction went bad, be put to death if found guilty.

The feds claim Tartaglione and Rockland County resident Joseph Biggs lured Martin Luna to the Likquid Lounge in Chester, NY, to find stolen cocaine money and ended up killing Luna and the other three men, whom he brought for protection.

https://nypost.com/2017/06/01/second-suspect-arrested-for-quadruple-homicid e-during-bad-coke-deal/
6-1-17 coke deal gone bad – a cop shoots himself in front of FBI agents. Manhattan federal prosecutors charged Rockland County resident Joseph Biggs in connection with four murders that he allegedly committed with Nicholas Tartaglione, a former Westchester cop who is accused of burying the men on his Otisville property. White Plains Judge Judith McCarthy detained Biggs at the request of Manhattan US prosecutor Maurene Comey, the daughter of recently ousted FBI head James Comey, who argued that Biggs is too dangerous to be freed.
“The conduct here is heinous and gruesome,” Comey told the Judge.

Comey said Biggs and Tartaglione lured Martin Luna to the Likquid Lounge in Chester, NY, under false pretenses “to track down a drug debt.”

Because Luna didn’t know what to expect, he brought friends and family with him — and they got whacked, too, Comey said.

After killing Luna, Biggs and Tartaglione “executed the others with a bullet to the back of the head purely because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time,” Comey told the judge.

Tartaglione, who worked as a cop in Briarcliff Manor and Mount Vernon, was first busted in “gangland-style” slay in December, which allegedly took the lives of Luna, Urbano Santiago, Miguel Luna and Hector Gutierrez.
The bodies of four men were later discovered buried on Tartaglione’s Otisville property.

The FBI was on to Biggs as recently as March, but the investigation was put on hold after a third alleged accomplice — ex-NYPD cop Gerard Benderoth — committed suicide just as FBI agents were closing in on him, sources told The Post.

Benderoth, 48 — nicknamed “White Rhino” from his days as a strongman competitor — shot himself in March when the FBI pulled him over on a quiet suburban road in Rockland County.

Biggs also appears to have participated in professional bodybuilding contests, according to photos he has posted on Facebook.

The security guard’s lawyer said there is no evidence that Biggs was involved “in the actual execution or shooting in this case.”

“We knew these charges were coming but Mr. Biggs hasn’t driven away or walked away,” lawyer David Goldstein said. “He has reiterated over and over to me how he is not guilty.”

Biggs, who shook his head in shock when the judge ordered him detained, is due back in court on June 7th, along with Tartaglione.

White Plains Judge Judith McCarthy detained Biggs at the request of Manhattan US prosecutor Maurene Comey, the daughter of recently ousted FBI head James Comey, who argued that Biggs is too dangerous to be freed.



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/autopsy-finds-broken-bones-in-jeffrey- epsteins-neck-deepening-questions-around-his-death/ar-AAFPxjP?li=BBnb7Kz

Jonathan L. Arden, president of the National Association of Medical Examiners, said a hyoid can be broken in many circumstances but is more commonly associated with homicidal strangulation than suicidal hanging.
Arden, who was not involved in the Epstein autopsy, said that in general, a finding of a broken hyoid requires pathologists to conduct more extensive investigation. That investigation can include analysis of the location of the noose, how narrow the noose is, and if the body experienced any substantial drop in the course of the hanging.



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  posted on 8/15/2019 at 06:04 PM
Can you now see why it most probably was not a suicide? The DEA, FBI, a pissed off cop, 4 dead bodies they cannot find, and this is the guy they put in the cell with Epstein?

Epstein tells his lawyer that this cellmate did whatever to him, and he had marks on his neck, gets accused of trying to commit suicide and then shortly thereafter ends up dead, with broken bones found in his neck after others on the cellblock heard shrieking and screaming, which Tartagliano denies hearing.

Did Tartagliano get a deal from the feds for offing Epstein, so that 2 Presidents (Trump and Clinton) would be protected, as well as the Royal Family Prince Andrew, the Saudis who have billion dollar arms deals with the US, and all the others, including Elyon Musk etc. etc. ?

Did Tartagliano just hate pedophiles and do it on that basis?

Were other professionals brought in while the guards were sleeping?

Were the guards drugged in their coffee or other beverages so that they would not be awake during the assassination?

Did the Warden get a golden parachute pension, was he in on it? He did not get fired, just got transferred to another facility.

The Shrink cannot be held accountable, they cover ALL the patients at the Manhattan Facility and the Brooklyn Facility that is more than 500 prisoners to one psychiatrist. It was reported that sometimes his contact with the prisoners was limited to just saying hello thru the food slot to make sure they were still alive. Bill the state for services.

This is much more than just some horny men having sex with under age girls.



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  posted on 8/15/2019 at 06:33 PM
Good info Gina.There's a picture of Clinton dressed in drag at the island out there.LMAO!Surprised most round here ain't puttin the blame on the Trumpster.

 

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  posted on 8/15/2019 at 07:33 PM
The cast of his friends, business associates is huge.

He has a brother who his estate could go to.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7353475/Marc-Epstein-likely-inheri t-brother-Jeffreys-near-billion-dollar-estate-payout-victim-lawsuits.html?n s_mchannel=rss&ito=1490&ns_campaign=1490


His fixer Sarah Kellen should be looked into. She kept his little black book.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7234185/Jeffrey-Epsteins-female-fi xer-socializing-convicted-pedophile-2012.html


Accomplices
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epsteins-alleged-accomplices-where-ar e-sarah-kellen-nadia-marcinkova-adriana-ross-and-lesley-groff

 

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  posted on 8/15/2019 at 07:35 PM
How he viewed himself in his own words.

"He told the New York Post in 2011, “I’m not a sexual predator, I’m an ‘offender.’ It’s the difference between a murderer and a person who steals a bagel.”

Later, he explained to a publicist that he had sex with "with 'tweens and teens," according to the New York Times, but rejected the media characterization of him as a "pedophile" who lusted after children.

And when asked to describe the sex acts that landed him in jail a decade ago, he referred to them as "erotic massages," people who know him say. He is said to believe his situation is similar to the mess Robert Kraft, the owner of the New England Patriots, found himself in when he was charged earlier this year for soliciting prostitution in a day spa, FOX Business has learned.

If there were a difference, it was mainly about the location. Kraft paid for sex at a seedy massage parlor in a Florida strip mall; the girls in Epstein's case came to his palatial home in Palm Beach, Florida.


https://finance.yahoo.com/news/woes-jeffrey-epstein-maintained-wall-1956319 45.html


 

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  posted on 8/15/2019 at 11:15 PM
More noise feeding the beast.
 

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  posted on 8/18/2019 at 03:35 PM
You are right about THE BEAST. More digging by reporters uncover practices and loyalties linked to the dark side.


8-17-19 Emily Shugerman
https://www.thedailybeast.com/models-say-jeffrey-epsteins-closest-pal-jean- luc-brunel-drugged-raped-them


8-17-19
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/17/jean-luc-brunel-jeffrey-eps tein-models-sexual-assault


8-18-19 Dana Kennedy
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-friend-ghislaine-maxwell-has- more-skeletons-in-her-family-closet-than-a-house-of-horrors

"She is the youngest child of the notorious and disgraced British media mogul Robert Maxwell, rumored after his mysterious death in 1991 to have been an Israeli spy.

We also looked at the family tree of her other brother-in-law, an American astrophysicist whose genius rocket scientist father Frank Malina at the Jet Propulsion Lab in California pioneered what would become NASA before he fled to France with J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men on his heels.

But France is still where Ghislaine Maxwell’s family history begins. Both she and her mother, the elegant and long-suffering Elisabeth Maxwell, were born here. And while some French officials have called for an investigation into Epstein’s activities in Paris, where he had an opulent apartment, Ghislaine’s French connection goes back decades in the south.

It also grew out of the horrors of Auschwitz, which wiped out Robert Maxwell’s parents and siblings and eventually inspired his French Protestant wife, Elisabeth, to become a renowned Holocaust scholar.

And it includes Ghislaine’s very interesting American in-laws who moved back and forth between Provence, the Dordogne and the United States. Their roots involved the pioneering, often reckless rocket scientists of the 1930s who were called the “Suicide Squad” for their risky work at the Jet Propulsion Lab. Among their circle: L. Ron Hubbard of Scientology fame; the Nobel Prize-winning physicist Richard Feynman; and Briton Aleister Crowley, known for black magic and a sex cult.

“They attach themselves to bizarre psychopaths like their father,” says a researcher who delved into the family years ago. “Ghislaine wasn’t the only sister to hook up with a weird guy.”


The daddy issues—and the mysterious death issues—began with Robert Maxwell, born into poverty as Ján Ludvík Hyman Binyamin Hoch in Czechoslovakia in 1923. He wanted a big family to recreate, in a way, the siblings he lost to the Nazis, and he very much wanted riches and fame. He achieved all of it, including a seat in the British Parliament. But two of his children died young and greed overtook his ambition.

When Robert Maxwell mysteriously disappeared from his yacht, the Lady Ghislaine, and his naked body was retrieved floating in the waters off the Canary Islands in November 1991, he already had been drowning in debt.

His business empire was on the verge of ruin and he’d stolen, Bernie Madoff-style, more than $400 million from his employees’ pension funds to forestall bankruptcy. The Pulitzer-Prize-winning reporter Seymour Hersh had recently accused him of being a longtime Israeli intelligence agent in a book about Israel’s nuclear weapons arsenal, The Samson Option.

Epstein, whose pal, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak often crashed at his $77 million Upper East Side apartment in New York, also has been accused of unsavory connections to Israel.

“What are the driving forces that make people do things?’ Ghislaine’s mother Elisabeth asked about her husband in 1995 during a New York Times interview to promote her unusually candid autobiography, A Mind of My Own. In it she admitted Maxwell was a philanderer and often treated her badly—but she said she loved him.

“I hope one day there will be a balance. That time passes, passions fall and eventually some truths emerge,” she said. “It was really a Greek tragedy that his path should have finished the way it did.”

Two of Maxwell’s sons, Kevin and Ian, were investigated for fraud involving their father’s empire after his death and both were cleared in 1996, although at one point Kevin was banned from running a company in the U.K. for eight years. Both landed back in court in 2015 and 2016 facing bankruptcy issues involving another U.K. financial company to which they owed money.

The Oxford-educated Ghislaine, who used to be referred to reflexively as a “British socialite,” reportedly was her father’s favorite. But two of her sisters, the twins Isabel and Christine, now 69, are the most accomplished of the family. They are internet content pioneers who started Magellan, one of the first search engines, and were featured in Michael Wolff’s book, Burn Rate, about his foray into early startups.

The sisters (Christine was said to be the brains behind the operation) made millions when Magellan was later sold to the Excite search company.

Curiously, Isabel followed in the family tradition of filing for bankruptcy in December 2015 despite having been a multi-millionaire. That move may have been related to the untimely demise at age 56 of her third husband, the infamous con man Al Seckel who, she later found out, was not legally her husband since he was still married to his first wife. In 2015, when he reportedly died, he was potentially on the hook for millions.

Seckel, the son of a refugee from the Nazis, moved to L.A. and used his wile and charm to pass himself off as an Ivy League graduate and double doctoral candidate at Caltech.

Seckel befriended and bewitched the Nobel Prize-winning physicists Richard Feynman and Murray Gell-Mann among other neuroscientists, as well as academics and even magicians like James Randi.

(His daughter, Elizabeth Seckel, has built on her father’s work in optical illusion by pioneering something called “mirror box therapy.” Seckel brought her method, sponsored by the Clinton Global Initiative, to Haiti after the earthquake in 2012 to help recent amputees with their phantom limb pain.)

Christine Maxwell and her astrophysicist husband Roger Malina have, until recently at least, divided their time between their home here in Meyreuil and Dallas, Texas. Malina teaches at the University of Texas there and Christine is a doctoral candidate in the humanities department, a UT spokeswoman told The Daily Beast. Malina was also a director at an astrophysics center in Marseille until last year.

Roger Malina is the son of Czechoslovak-born Frank Malina, an early Elon Musk type who was part of the ragtag group whose daring rocket experiments in 1930s Pasadena led to the formation of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in L.A., the precursor to NASA.

Frank Malina’s best friend, Jack Parsons, was the most charismatic of the group. He led a double life with non-scientist friends like L. Ron Hubbard and Robert Heinlein, author of Stranger in a Strange Land, Starship Troopers, and other sci-fi classics. Parsons also joined an occult group involving the dark arts and sex fetishes founded by Aleister Crowley, an English occultist and magician.

In an odd echo of Jeffrey Epstein’s reported desire to seed the human race with his own DNA, Parsons and Hubbard tried for a time to impregnate women to bring forth Babalon, a goddess described as the “Scarlet Woman” in the Themelic belief system to which Crowley subscribed.

When Parsons died in a mysterious explosion at his home at age 37, he had stopped working for JPL and was for a time a consultant to Israel’s nascent rocket system. Media accounts at the time hinted at “sexual perversion,” “black robes,” “sacred fire” and “intellectual necromancy,” according to Vice—and there were also whispers that he might have been murdered.

Frank Malina, Christine Maxwell Malina’s father-in-law, was more of a straight arrow than Parsons and fared better, at first. But some historians say he was cheated of his rightful place as a true hero of the early space race because of years of harassment by the FBI who labeled him a socialist during the McCarthy years because he had campaigned against racial segregation, and raised money for republicans in the Spanish Civil War. After World War II he fled to Paris, where he became a painter and watched the space program soar from afar

In a brutal twist, Wernher von Braun, a Nazi rocket scientist who was brought to the U.S. as part of Operation Paperclip, the government program that brought Nazi scientists to build American rockets, became the face of the early space program that some feel Malina deserved to have been.

Roger Malina blogs about his famous father on his website where he wrote last year: “Yes, Elon Musk, they triggered in the USA the work that led to your ‘strange’ vision—and they did it a stone’s throw from where your company SpaceX is currently headquartered. And you are dreaming the same dreams as the ‘suicide squad,’ as they were called, at Caltech in the 1930s.”


REMARKS:
Aleister Crowley - and his Thelemic belief system. Models "loaned out" for $100,000 a night, flown between countries, fraudulent visas from France, model agencies, the old CIA OPERATION PAPERCLIP alleged involvement by Ms. Maxwell's family, rocket scientists NASA, L. Ron Hubbard.

The extent of the diabolical plans, plots, links, people is incredible. Starting their own race with a Babylonian goddess at the forefront. Not even just doing this on earth, but also in the realm of space.

You had a former Senate Majority Leader (Mitchell) who was involved with Epstein, Congress does not think they should look into anything, Jean Luc Brunel reportedly signed in to visit Epstein 70X while he was in jail in Palm Beach, and he was reportedly jetting underage girls back and forth between NYC and Paris.....

There is a war going on between good and God's ways and Evil. Unfortunately the evil ones have more money, power and their low down deeds and plans just go on.

 

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  posted on 8/20/2019 at 05:45 PM
GHSLAINE MAXWELL

"For Ghislaine, presumably, outer space is not an option. But in point of fact, she does know how to operate a lot of exotic machinery. In addition to speaking four languages and holding a degree from Oxford, she’s a trained private helicopter pilot, a submersible pilot and qualified to operate undersea robots. Much was made of the latter qualifications when she was fund-raising for her now defunct TerraMar oceanic environmental project, which shuttered after Epstein’s arrest last month. "

8-18-19 Dana Kennedy
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-friend-ghislaine-maxwell-has- more-skeletons-in-her-family-closet-than-a-house-of-horrors

From the article about Skeletons in the Closet

She is trained as a submersible pilot and qualified to operate undersea robots. Who provides training like that? Military would, or maybe she's a marine biologist like George Costanza in that Seinfeld episode.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/military/sd-me-spawar-robots-20170922- story.html

The photo at the In and Out with Her Close friend and attorney was photoshopped. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7372877/Ghislaine-Maxwell-STAGED-p hoto-N-close-friend-attorney.html

https://www.guidestar.org/profile/45-5091884
Project founded 2012, offered lesson plans targeting students 5- 18 years old.

https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=181 38
Terramar Project Inc
150 Presidential Way No. 510
Woburn, MA 01801

https://trademarks.justia.com/858/25/terramar-85825072.html
Correspondence Monte Albers de Leon
Director of Development Brian Yurasits

https://nypost.com/2019/07/27/feds-probe-socialites-mysterious-ocean-charit y-over-links-to-jeffrey-epstein/



July 21, 2019 Ghislaine brought Clinton to Epstein – Bruce Golding
https://nypost.com/2019/07/21/ghislaine-maxwell-brought-bill-clinton-to-jef frey-epstein-report/


https://nypost.com/2019/08/20/ghislaine-maxwell-taught-epstein-victim-prope r-way-to-perform-oral-sex-suit/
8-20 Emily Saul and and Lisa Eustachewich


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/08/17/ghislaine-maxwell-donated-hospi tal-epstein-victim-treated-alleged/


https://nypost.com/2019/08/18/epsteins-gal-pal-gave-1k-to-hospital-that-tre ated-alleged-sex-slave-report/


Was/is Ms. Maxwell an agent for one of the intelligence agencies?



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  posted on 8/20/2019 at 05:48 PM
Epstein's will was prepared two days before he was coincidentally dead.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epsteins-will-leaves-dollar577-millio n-to-mysterious-trust?ref=home
His assets were put in a a protected instrument called The 1953 Trust. The trust keeps the beneficiary private. He set up corporation to own his properties, Cypress Inc. for the New Mexico ranch, Laurel Inc. for the Palm Beach home, SCI JEP a French company for the property in Paris at 22 Avenue Foch, Poplar Inc holds the title to great St. James Island, and Nautilus, Inc. holds the title to Little St. James Island. Indyke & Kahn are the attorneys, they are using a Virgin Islands firm, Kellerhalls, Ferguson & Krobin, PLLC as their attorneys. Erika Kellerhals is one of Epstein’s attorneys named in tax documents for his charities and a partner of the firm. [she could be the mystery woman who would come to consult with him in the attorney offices at the Metropolitan Correctional Center jail].

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7376195/Jeffrey-Epstein-named-Bill -Gates-science-adviser-Boris-Nikolic-executor-will.html


REMARK: Impeccable timing, saving his assets putting them into trusts. Makes you wonder if he really is dead, or the photo of him on the gurney was photoshopped also to get him out of a big mess.

 

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  posted on 8/20/2019 at 05:49 PM
There are more things that have come out, the Prime Minister was from Australia.

• Woman in Video is Ex Australian Prime Minister’s daughter Kathleen Keating. – Margie Murphy Los Angeles, Nick Allen and Rozina Sabur
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/08/20/woman-video-prince-andrew-jeffr ey-epsteins-house-daughter-ex/

Katherine Keating, 37, was identified as the mystery brunette seen waving goodbye to the Duke [Andrew] as she left Epstein's house in New York in 2010.

 

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  posted on 8/20/2019 at 06:00 PM
The real rub (pardon the pun) is WHY this case will never be taken seriously or have anything done about it and that goes back to the original case:

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article220097825.html

October 2007 Miami top Prosecutor Alex Acosta (named US Attorney for Miami by George W Bush) met with jay Lefkowitz former colleague at Kirland & Ellis Law Firm. 53 page federal indictment he could have did life in jail instead he served only 13 months, during which time he was housed at the jail and allowed to leave for 12 hours a day to go work in an office in a “Non Prosecution Agreement”.

This agreement shut down the FBI probe.

He plead guilty to 2 prostitution charges in state court. Epstein and 4 accomplices received immunity from all federal criminal charges and granted immunity to any potential co-conspirators who were involved in his crimes.
The deal was kept hidden from the victims and was sealed until after approved by the Judge.

Acosta was given the job as Secretary of Labor under Trump’s administration. But that position has the oversight responsibilities on issues including human trafficking. [he subsequently resigned his position before the current situation came about].

While the US Attorney in Miami, Acosta allowed Epstein’s lawyers to dictate the terms of the non prosecution agreements. Bradley Edwards former state prosecutor representing some of Epstein’s victims asked how do you the US attorney engage in negotiation with a criminal defendant allowing the defendant to write up the agreement? Question not adequately answered.

As a result of Acosta letting them do this, neither the victims or judge would know how many girls were abused between 2001 and 2005. The Palm Beach Police Chief Michael Reiter said there were 50 women. Courtney Wild now 30 years old was 14 at the time.

Epstein’s case happened when the financial crisis of 2008 hit. He was a federal witness against 2 executives of Bear Stearns. Epstein was one of the largest investors in the hedge fund managed by the executives who were charged with securities fraud and later acquitted.

*Herald identifies 80 women from 2001 to 2006 that were abused by Epstein. 8 agreed to interviews, 4 willing to do videos. One died last year in a run down motel in WPB.

Epstein repaid restitution to 36 victims identified by the FBI.

2011 Acosta said he was pressured by Epstein’s lawyers including Kenneth Starr (Whitewater prosecutor) etc.


REMARKS: He was given immunity from prosecution for other crimes that they knew about, crimes involving what the Palm Beach Police Chief said involved 50 girls. The Judge was not even allowed to know how many girls were involved, and was able to write this deal up totally going above the prosecutor on the case!


IMPRESSION: Epstein was gotten out of jail, will hang out and live his life wheeling and dealing under some other name/corporation/identity with the full knowledge of persons in the government. Things will go on as they have for years with all the guilty people enjoying their guilty pleasures and keeping their mouths shut; look how long this has gone on for. Look how many people were involved. Do you think the idea of creating a perfect race will stop? Eugenics has been a dream of many twisted people for a very long time. Prince Andrew keeps denying everything in spite of their being pictures of him and Ms. Giuffre, pictures and video of him waving goodbye from inside Epstein's mansion to a brunette, etc. etc.

We cannot stop evil because the people with the most money are the most evil and have the most power. We can be aware of it, launch our own little protests like not patronize businesses they own and prepare for the day when Jesus comes back to wage the grand jihad against all the evil on the planet, that day will come. Be prepared to get off the grid when necessary, be prepared for totalitarianism if and when it comes to our shores. Did you know Trump wants to re-institute the NSA spying program permanently? Well he does. The regular people need to be spied on while the wealthy continue in their high crimes and hypocrisy as they get their wet dreams of their new world order and enslaving everybody else. Yes we live in those times.

(One a side note :One thing, much speculation exist(s) about that portrait of Bill Clinton. I read that it was a spoof on the Monica Lewinsky matter, the furniture in the picture is from the Oval Office from the time he was there, the blue dress was symbolic of her dress. It was like a running joke; it was not a revelation that he is a transvestite).







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  posted on 8/20/2019 at 06:20 PM
Giuffre doesn't want the Epstein saga to end without her getting some justice from Prince Andrew.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/20/jeffrey-epstein-women-sue-e state-latest

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/aug/19/prince-andrew-urged-to-tell -all-he-knows-about-jeffrey-epstein

"On Monday Brad Edwards, a lawyer for Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre, who claims she was made to have sex with the prince, told the Guardian: “I look forward to coordinating a formal deposition where [Andrew] will be given the opportunity to tell us everything he knows. We would like to do this as soon as possible, at his convenience, and again we are very appreciative of his willingness to help.”


The video of Andrew.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7367511/Prince-Andrew-pictured-ins ide-paedophile-Jeffrey-Epsteins-63million-mansion-depravity.html

Giuffre has previously stated she was paid $15,000 to have sex with him, and other articles have said that Epstein would loan his girls out for $100,000 per night.







[Edited on 8/20/2019 by gina]

 

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  posted on 8/20/2019 at 08:18 PM
Lunatic fringe, I know you're out there.....

 

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  posted on 8/21/2019 at 09:47 AM

I am sorry this story shook you up so bad. Was gonna post some snark but then it occurred to me you are really going off on this, you have been rattlling on since it occurred.. I agree it is a sick saga, also agree that you can't touch these types - best thing is to ignore them and not feed the power of their mythology. They are just sick little people with lots of money who live in a dark world - you want folks to care and that is a good thing, but all the speculation and wildeyed guessing is just peasants telling stories about their masters and building legends around worthless filth better forgotten.

 

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  posted on 8/24/2019 at 03:25 PM
Laid to rest in an unmarked tomb beside parents.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7364125/Jeffrey-Epstein-laid-rest- parents-Jewish-mausoleum-Florida.html

The cemetery is usually closed for the Sabbath, but not for Jeffrey, just as all the other doors opened for him, so did the gates to eternity. After a small funeral at Frank E. Campbell Funeral Chapel on Madison Avenue in NYC, his body was taken and entombed at the West Palm Beach cemetery his parents are entombed at. I J Morris Star of David where a space is $250,000.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7380929/Epstein-gamed-grave.html
the will 8-21-19 he put all the assets in trust so that they would not be made public. The will was filed in the Virgin Islands so that any claims against the estate would have to be filed there as well. The accusers will need Virgin Island Lawyers to file proceedings there or the current lawyers need to take the bar and be licensed in the Virgin Islands.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7380225/Jeffrey-Epstein-sexually-a ssaulted-rape-victim-18-plainclothes-deputies-stood-feet-away.html
Alleged dirty deeds done in public while on work release.


 

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  posted on 8/24/2019 at 03:26 PM
THE DRESS AND CLINTON PAINTING - He did NOT pose for it.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7381203/Man-posed-Clinton-dress-pa inting-speaks-out.html

The student who posed for the painting of Clinton in a dress and the man who painted it. The French model, Christophe Nayal, the painter, Petrina Ryan Kleid and how the painting went from the NY Academy of Art to Epsteins lair at 9 E. 71 St.

 

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  posted on 8/24/2019 at 03:30 PM
EIGHT GUARDS Assigned to monitor Epstein in his cell on 9 South at MCC. So why does nobody know what happened?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7381623/Eight-prison-officials-kne w-ignored-orders-Jeffrey-Epstein-not-allowed-left-alone.html

His cellmate related in another story that he himself had been threatened with a note he sent to complain about conditions coming back and being slit with a razor blade and that he was told not to complain.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-7380279/Epstein-case-judge-inv ites-accusers-hearing-week.html



[Edited on 8/24/2019 by gina]

 

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  posted on 8/24/2019 at 03:35 PM
JEAN LUC BRUNEL -

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7371693/Jean-Luc-Brunel-gave-Jeffr ey-Epstein-three-poor-12-year-old-triplets-France-birthday-present.html

Triplets for Epstein's birthday as a present? Just coming for one night, and then flown back to Paris?

AND photos of the women seeking to sue Epstein, including Ms. Giuffre photos of her then and now as a 35 years old married women with 3 kids (who lives in Australia).

[Edited on 8/24/2019 by gina]

 

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  posted on 8/25/2019 at 10:20 AM
Although I am glad this snake is dead, what makes this all the more disturbing is the question lurking just off camera: "What would I do if I had unlimited funds?" This story implicates our nature in an ugly and scary way. Even closer to home is how a lot of us music fans have at worst admired or at best ignored similar behaviors by our rock idols.

Rather than use these horrors as a pedestal from which to broadcast our righteousness - Maybe a positive takeaway, the best way to heal is to view these terrible stories of money, lust, murder, and mayhem as a mirror of our collective psyche to reflect light on ourslves to dispel our own darkness.


Epstein died for our sins.

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  posted on 8/28/2019 at 03:49 PM
Very true everything you said. On the one hand the story of a poor kid from Coney Island becoming a rich hedge fund manager leading a life like that it is fascinating but worse and yes I will post links, we have to look at our own selves. We can criticize Jean Luc Brunel for his dealings with Epstein but he is very sexy and truth be told half the women you could ask would tell you they are attracted to his looks. If they were 15 or 16 would they sleep with him? Many would want to. Are we all hypocrites? Our culture promote the ideas of if I want it I can have it making excuses and justifying it. Look at the song Good Clean Fun "if you don't want to love me somebody else will", not a lot different than a sexy model scout looking for young women. There is a lot more that this whole case can teach people about themselves and our culture.

 

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