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  posted on 1/24/2007 at 07:10 PM
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  posted on 1/24/2007 at 09:13 PM
Hope the move is going well

 

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  posted on 1/25/2007 at 06:09 PM
In case anyone wonders about a possible prolonged absense of Windsinger, she wanted me to let you all know that the move my disrupt her internet service for a short period, and not to worry that she's flown the coop, so to speak.

 

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  posted on 1/26/2007 at 02:23 PM
Guys, I'm at the library.

(Thankyou Dave, for letting um know)

The move has happened.

I still have no phone/net service at the new place, .....tried to move the phone wire myself, but all the innerds were sealed wires.
Had to come to the library yesterday to send my Mom an e-mail to get her to call the phone Co. to come move my service.
Came back, today, to view her reply.

She says they'll come fix everything on Weds. so keep your fingers crossed.

Yesterday we were running all over the countryside getting lumber stuff and insulation and wall materials.

Today, we're doing more of the same, just dropped in here for messages.
(This evening, we're going out to find seafood (I can be made Very happy being fed shrimp and fruit) and a movie....there's some new Fantasy something out, that looks aimed more for kids, but we'll do it for the fun of it)

Yes, to the suggestion made that I prefer softer stuff, music wise.
Ballads
Folk music
ANY kind of traditional Irish music (!)
Some Classical
soft rock.
Not much on country, jazz, blues etc.

Tomarrow we're heading to Alabama with the cat for a warm motel room, cable, endless hot water, and to re-fill our many water containers so we can have cooking/drinking water back at the new place, til we can arrange to get a new well drilled.

(We're cat people, but used to have a pit-bull, and a black lab. Now just have a scruffy beagle.....and a tom cat we named Taylor has been a regular visitor since he found out we have several pretty females.)

Okay, I need to leave and get back to the running around finding stuff.
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  posted on 2/1/2007 at 02:36 PM
I have net at the new house.
Now, where have y'all been while I've been working myself half-ta-death trying to get a new home while you're staying warm ?

We're having an out-house built on Monday (I'm not joking)
It'll have no plumbing.
An 'Envirolet' pottie out of Canada
a c. 1800s tin bathtub that'll use rainwater from off the roof.
a c. 1920s (or earlier) enameled urinal we found at an antique show.
an enameled bowl and pitcher for wash-up (with rainwater, naturally)

Have an antique water yoke hanging over the back door, to haul buckets of rainwater into the outhouse.......
Anyone have any ideas how I might cut out that stage and get water into the building ?

After the outhouse is built, I'll be calling to try and get a springwater well drilled outside the kitchen door, for fresh drinking/cooking water.

Y'all don't know what you're missing living in places with cookie-cutter conveniences.
Ahhhhhh, the challenges involved with trying to pioneer your life.......living history is such a cool adventure !!!!

Windsinger (someone else talk, so I have a reason to come here to look......introduce yourselves or something......W.)

 

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  posted on 2/1/2007 at 03:07 PM
AN OUTHOUSE???

The problem with an outhouse is the wind is always changing directions. What might be downwind one minute will be upwind the next. This time of the year won't be as bad as the middle of summer. Once the heat picks up, that thing will be funky!! I hope there's some kind of chemical additives available for modern outhouses. And then there's always the problem of having to get up and get dressed if the call of nature strikes in the middle of the night. I know it's how grandma and grandpa did it, but I have always had indoor plumbing. I guess I am spoiled.

Windsinger, it sounds like you are going back to basics. It sounds kind of cool, actually. Got any other details of the house? Will it be heated and cooled by modern means or will that be primative also? A good wood burner with an electric fan would work in winter. What about summer, any plans for AC? Might could get by with a window AC unit?

Glad to see you're back online from home. Stay warm and dry!!

 

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  posted on 2/2/2007 at 04:45 AM
Wow! Almost speechless here. It's about 4:30 am, I'm at work, and I just finished reading every word of this thread. If it were a physical thread, it would be spun of the finest silk, interwoven with gold & silver. Windsinger, my simple response to your postings is - Thank You! - many times over. I personally had never thought of this aspect of the accident that impacted many hearts and souls, but it is true that the complexities of our earthly existence are many and lives are touched and affected by the small & large. Glad to hear that you have moved into a more comfy situation. To those who wax about how this site is something higher and greater than what it may appear to be on the surface, I am not the gushy, mushy, mystical type, but I have to say, the impact that this band of Brothers has had on many, many lives is inestimable & this site is a conduit for many touching & spine-tingling stories, rememberances & reflections. Thanks to all.

 

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  posted on 2/2/2007 at 02:16 PM
Dave.....yes, an outhouse, but not in the conventional/historic sense.
Yes, the house will be 'downwind' but that's an advantage, this time.
i.e. the 'facilities' are a modern invention......something used, primarily in Cabins in Canada and the Great N.W. ( http://www.envirolet.com/) For use in places with no electricity or running water....odorless, chemical-less.

My Dad's mother had a REAL outhouse.
Right there in what is now Atlanta (community known as Adamsville)
The outhouse was at the back of her property, built over the bank of a creek (horrors !!!)

I remember it was a two-seater. I always nervously looked down the hole, afraid of snakes, not realizing that spiders were a much more likely danger....but when you're little, you worry about the scarier creatures of the woods,....not to mention, the holes in the seat were far too large for small humans,...or rather, large enough to fall in.
My grandma honestly kept a Sear & Roebuck catalog in there, but not for paper. It was for looking at in moments of idle waiting, or rain pouring down, delaying the hike back to the house. a pile of newspapers provided for the needed paper.

My grandmother was Terrified of snakes, so she had an obsession about keeping all the grass blades that sprang up in the back yard, plucked, so the snakes would have no place to hide. Years later, my lady mother gave my brothers and I snakes to play with/keep as pets,...so they no-longer bother me (but they come in Awfully handy for keeping certain religious folks from ever knocking on your door, but once......)

As for the-call-of-nature in the a.m. hours.......that's what chamber pots are for, you just carry them out to the outhouse every morning,.....ya don't poke your nose out the locked door til morning, just in case of wolves or Indians hiding in the dark.....what kind of hick do ya think I am not to know about those dangers ?

Yes ! Definately ! Back-to-Basics/Mother-Earth-News lifestyle !!!!! I LOVE it being close to nature, smoothly fitting into my woodland environment anyway I can !!!

The house, will, when we get it insulated and inside walls up, have space heaters.
We found a REALLY cool one at Lowes that looks like an iron woodstove with glass door, but is actually an electric one. Got two, right after Christmas, at a good discount (but still paid dearly for the authentic looking burning coals and flames look)

With the high ceilings upstairs (16.5') heat is still a problem in Summer, but I'm planning lower wall vents on the North walls, up and downstairs to pull cooler shade end air in as the heat flows out the high eve vents.

Even with the vents open (like now)(no, we haven't hauled a tall ladder upstairs to staple something over them) it's reasonably comfortable up here if the sun is shining...(it's not, today, so I'm frozen) Come Summer, it will be an oven up here,.....but the newly installed vents, by then, should help, plus the windows open straight across from each other for west to east, cross ventilation.

On the South side, where there are no windows, I'm planning to have, by next winter, a passive solar set-up for gathering heat and flowing it into the house......going to plan this, in such a way, as to also allow for some solar cells on the roof above the passive ground set up.

AC ?
I've never had AC.
But present mate isn't made of as hardy stuff as I am, and he has Demanded we have Some form of AC in the new house.
I think we should just just sleep downstairs in the Summer.
Without any insulation, it was quite pleasant down there this past Summer (the house was finished on April 15th, but there were countless problems preventing us form getting moved in, not the least of which was an ankle I badly sprained when I went skinny dipping during the summer....(no leering....it was after midnight , at a large pool in the Tenn Mts. ....people were glad it was too dark to see me get hurt...those darn pools should have concrete steps in the shallow corners...I thought that one did. So I wound up in a boot for 4 months, and couldn't hike the woods to the new house to work, and couldn't climb ladders or steps.

Metsman.
Welcome to my livingroom. Your appreciation has been beautifully voiced.
I'm Not religious.
But I'm very spiritual.
My kids had an easier time of their Dad's loss than I did, because of my beliefs I convinced them it was 'just his time to go' that the universe had other places and lives he needed to touch, and we were ment to go on without him but carry him in our hearts. The boys accepted the explanation.

So yes, I too believe we're here to touch lives.
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  posted on 2/5/2007 at 01:04 AM

Hey now windsinger -

It's so great to hear from you again! I'm glad your move is going well -- please keep us apprised.

It was only a couple of generations ago that our own ancestors lived without electricity or running water. My grandfather was a surgeon in the small town of Macomb, Illinois, and he was a pillar of the community. My mom and dad were married in his house. I remember as a kid going through their magnificent home and wondering why the electric wires were on the surface of the walls instead of inside. There were hitching posts on the sidewalk in front of the house.

My great aunt Jesse lived to the ripe old age of 94 and her house had a hand pump in the kitchen sink. There was an outhouse out back that she used until she died.

God bless you and keep coming around here!

 

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  posted on 2/5/2007 at 12:35 PM
Many of my great aunts and uncles in the SW corner of VA lived in the old family houses with outdoor plumbing untill late into the 20th century.

I like the idea of getting back to basics, but a trip to the lew in freezing temps isn't my idea of a good time!

 

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  posted on 2/6/2007 at 08:24 PM
Okay Dave.
I'll get us one of those funky pink fake fur 'seat' covers for the pottie, sos it ain't so shocking to the lower/Southern senses...........

Windsinger
(Ps....not really....H. wants this cool seat we found in a catalog that has a shape of the front of a crusader's helmet in the acrylic lid, and real chainmail embedded in the seat)(ANYTHING but 'warm' looking......)(I've just gotta re-find the catalog over at abandoned Pennyhut)

 

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  posted on 2/6/2007 at 08:39 PM
I was SUPPOSED to of gotten my new bathroom built today.

But Home Depot sent the wrong length underpinnings, so the builders left, to come back tomarrow.

Really funny. Right after they got here, the main builder sheepishly asked me for 'the bathroom'.......

(Drumroll here please)

I smiled at him, very sweetly.
"THAT'S what you're here, to build !!!!! So that depends.....how long can you 'wait' ...and how fast can you build ?"

He blushed deeply, and asked where the nearest service station was ?
I looked at him blank.
"I haven't a clue.......in case you haven't noticed, I live in the sticks.....probably the closest one is back in the last town you came through,...ohhh, about 5 or 7 miles back...
But I'll turn my back, and you're welcome to go pick a tree........"

He turned even redder.....and fled in the truck.
Turned out he was from NY.
When he got back, he mentioned he'd taken his girlfriend/now wife, camping, once, but when she'd asked 'where the bathroom was' he'd handed her a bucket and a shovel..
She never wanted to go camping, again....
Bet she'd Love to know about this morning, in 28 degree weather....
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  posted on 2/8/2007 at 09:54 AM
It ain't nothing to go #1 outside...for us guys anyway. Even in subfreezing temps, all you have to worry about is a little shrinkage. Ten or fifteen seconds, and it's all over with. It's the #2 thing that is a problem. First, you're leaving your ass hangin' in the breeze. It's hard to relax when you're shivering cold. Plus, you have all of these extra clothes on and they get in the way. And then there's the problem where to go. Do you sit, squat or lean against a tree? Depends on how cold, how much extra clothing you have on, and how badly you have to go. I'd drive TEN miles out of the way for a warm restroom. Besides, I like to take my time and read. Call me spoiled, but I was raised a city boy. We had indoor plumbing growing up, and unless I become homeless, I intend to have indoor plumbing til the day I die.

 

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  posted on 2/8/2007 at 11:19 PM
1) who cares about the amount of shrinkage at such a boring/uninteresting moment/time

2) I think the exposure time is in direct connection with how much beer has been consumed first, and how long ago.

3) As for the 'seating' arrangements.........lucky males !!!!! at least YA'LL have a Choice in the matter !!!

4) Relax ?
Funny. somehow I never associated 'relaxing' with what, for most females, is usually a matter of 'urgency' trying to find a private place, in time, in the midst of high population problems...... (but I'll ask H. about that when he's not watching 'War of the Worlds')

5) Extra clothing ? Man, WHAT do you think 'I've been having to deal with for the last two winters !!!!....and running for My tree in the woods, that's ALMOST deep enough in the woods in Winter not to be seen from the road !
(all well and good, when I had no neighbors, and lived on a dirt road, for 20 years......)

I had indoor plumbing growing up, too.
All my life, (discounting childhood trips to my grandma's) except for the last two years.

And reading in the loo ain't just for those who need the time.
Some of us just can't see wasteing the time sitting there stareing at boring room walls, when we Could be furthering our education some......

But change of subject.
Speaking of staring at walls/idle time/senseless wasteing of it.....
We once went to one of those funny 'camps' where guys joke about not going for fear of embarrassment.......ya know, the kind of place all men joke about Wanting to go, but never think they'll really have the nerve to.....so they cop out by talk of 'embarrassment'

Well, we went, couple of 3 years ago.
went with/met there platonic friends.
All of us first timers. (also re-inactors)

And, MY biggest worry, was fear of boredom...!
So 'I' took several books and some embroidery, AND 2 woodcarving projects and my tools !!!

H. and our friends teased me.
Look.
I'm the kind of person who doesn't understand the purpose of lounging around a pool, or on a beach in the Bahamas, doing 'nothing'
That's not relaxing to me.
It's the ultimate in boredom.
I guess the closest thing I do for relaxing is writing, or reading...both make me stay in one place for a couple of hours.
Then I'm up, and off again, getting the hands busy and the eyes happy.

As for the camp.
H. and our friends had a great time people watching while I didn't get facinated with anything but a pool table we finally found...other than that, and the stuff I brought to do, I was bored to tears.

Re. your cycle habit.
An old friend of mine, in MD, back when I was still single, wound up between jobs and decided to use the forced vacation time offered by un-employment, to hop on his bike and go from MD to GA to MS visiting friends, and attending re-inactment events along the way. (and on the return loop) He thought it would be a GREAT adventure.
By the time he got to GA. the novelty had worn off. As much as he loved his Harley, he said that days and weeks on it getting to his planned points had worn thin the initial excitement of the 'good idea' and he was now dreading the return loop...

i.e. if you ever consider such an idea, be warned. Mike said it was only comfortable/fun for the first 4 or 500 miles. After that, all he could think about was cramped muscles, and the constant need to stay 100% alert to his traffic surroundings, while dealing with temperature and climate conditions he had no control over.

Oh yeah, my new necessary house will keep ...ummmmmm.....well, all such personal matters will be indoors,.....but still no 'plumbing'
Guess I ain't quite ready to come up into the 21st century.
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  posted on 2/9/2007 at 11:57 AM
Duane also wrote, "Please be with me", a song Eric Clapton recorded on his 1974 Album: 461 Ocean Boulevard.
I can't agree that the Allman Brothers never recorded it, because I downloaded a version of Duane singing it, unplugged, in a studio,.... maybe it was recorded with Delaney and Bonnie.

I liked both versions. Neither is better, just different. Duane uses that hillbilly A7 chord whereas Clapton sticks to E in one section of the song, but in the same key.
If you play guitar, you might know what I mean by A7 being hillbillyish. That is actually one thing I liked about Duane.( Notice I don't say "redneck". That's different.) I like his Nashville input. I'm a big fan of Porter Wagoner and Grand old Opry, though you might call that square, it still seems strange the two people with the most influence on Clapton were: Jimi Hendrix and Duane Allman, even moreso than the Beatles, (he has said so in interviews), with both taken from him within such a short time.
Together that ADDED UP to a devastating impact, leading to years of drug abuse and eventual ruin for Clapton, rescued by his 1973 Rainbow concert, organized by friends mainly to pull him out of hibernation.

Duane was a hillbilly. "Chuck" was a redneck. there is a difference. Learn it.

 

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  posted on 2/9/2007 at 12:25 PM
Most of my last post about answering the call of nature was written in jest. You gotta do what you gotta do, whether it's indoors or outdoors. GIT-R-DONE!!!

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Speaking of staring at walls/idle time/senseless wasteing of it.....
We once went to one of those funny 'camps' where guys joke about not going for fear of embarrassment.......ya know, the kind of place all men joke about Wanting to go, but never think they'll really have the nerve to.....so they cop out by talk of 'embarrassment'

Well, we went, couple of 3 years ago.
went with/met there platonic friends.
All of us first timers. (also re-inactors)

And, MY biggest worry, was fear of boredom...!
So 'I' took several books and some embroidery, AND 2 woodcarving projects and my tools !!!


I get the drift...clothing optional....or was in mandatory nude? Personally, I don't think I'd have the gumption to go. I'm nothing to look at in the buff anyway, unless you like Buddha shaped Chia Pets.

As for riding, I'm good with the cycle habit. I only do trips when the seasons are right. I got rain gear, leathers, full face helmet for hard rain or bitter cold. I've ridden to work (out of necessity) when it was 21 degrees. I wouldn't say it was fun, but it was tolerable. I've been soakin' assed wet several times. I love to ride, and having a bike that is comfortable (with stereo and cruise control) makes 500-700 mile a day trips tolerable. I've been to IN and back twice, down to Daytona, FL once, from western MO to IN, and then from IN to GA (1300 miles in two days,) several 200-300 mile trips each way, I've had one wreck already and recovered well enough after surgery to get back in the saddle one month later, before the bike was even completely repaired. I went and got it out of the shop while they were waiting for the painted parts to come in. I suppose if I ever have a wreck that puts me at death's doorstep, then, and only then, will I reconsider riding again. It gets in your blood, and it's hard to put down once it does get in your blood.

Always good to hear from you, Wind. Hope you're coming along nicely on the home build. Have a great weekend.

 

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  posted on 2/9/2007 at 01:46 PM
Skydog70, Scott Boyer of Cowboy wrote "Please Be With Me." Duane only played dobro on the track.

Duane wasn't a hillbilly, and Chuck certainly wasn't a redneck. Where in hell did those opinions come from? On account of their birthplaces?

 

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  posted on 2/9/2007 at 06:14 PM
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Duane was a hillbilly. "Chuck" was a redneck. there is a difference. Learn it.



Learn it ? ... yeah, I learned something here alright.

 

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  posted on 2/9/2007 at 07:01 PM

Back in Hank Williams days, Country and Western music was called "Hillbilly Music", which morphed into "Rockabilly". I'm not the only person using the term.
In interviews, Ronnie Van Zant's widow describes Ronnie as a "Redneck". Therein lies a difference. I like Lynyrd Skynyrd and Molly Hatchet. They started out OK, but because they now attract Confederate flag wavers and KKK types, I think I can classify their influence to Rock as redneck. In thweir new sone "red White and blue, they even say they are Redneck. Pity.
Kid Rock can play multiple instruments on stage, but to me, he's still a redneck. Maybe I can go FURTHER to describe Kid Rock as "white trash".

If I say "Hillbilly", I make some distinction. I was born in Ohio, but loved the Grand Ole Opry, even though it was kind of square, especially, to watch Porter Wagoner in Ohio in those days, too. It would have been nice to live around there in those days and not have to hide or watch such stuff on the sly.
Southern Rock is really such a broad genre lumped into one. In fact, one of the few things either band had in common is they were "southern".

Ok, here goes... Duane was a "Cracker". Georgia was once proudly called the "Cracker state". If he was lucky, he was a Hillbilly, too.
Enviable bliss if you ask me.

Are you guys getting to the point of black people, -not letting outsiders call you what you probably call each other?

 

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  posted on 2/9/2007 at 07:50 PM
I have more respect for my friends than to resort to name calling, with one possible exception. When one is behaving badly, I will call him an *asshole.*

 

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  posted on 2/9/2007 at 09:16 PM
So, big Dave.... I suppose Ronnie Van Zant's widow was "namecalling" when she described her late husband as a 'Redneck'?

Hey man, they started it.
I haven't the privilege to know them, so I just have to go by what I see or read in reliable publications, or movies, or what they EVEN call themselves in song.
I'm just the hapless fan who wants to listen to them, only to see them getting weirder, fatter, meaner, tattooing their arms like Polynesians, saying and doing rotten things to each other.
I miss the days when self expression was limited to maybe a ring on a guitar strap, or a tie-dyed shirt. Expression should be from within. Maybe that is why I miss Duane so much, though I'm sure had he lived, he would have ended up a lot like the rest. Lie with pigs, and you wake up smelling.
As far as calling me what you called me, it takes one to know one.
But, call me a Hillbilly anytime that you want. I know you guys don't like it, but I still think it's different, at least from where I see it, living in stuffy cities and longing for the open air.

 

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  posted on 2/9/2007 at 11:36 PM
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I miss the days when self expression was limited to maybe a ring on a guitar strap, or a tie-dyed shirt. Expression should be from within. Maybe that is why I miss Duane so much, though I'm sure had he lived, he would have ended up a lot like the rest. Lie with pigs, and you wake up smelling.


i too sometimes miss the days when self expression was more limited, this particular moment being one of those times. ooh, ooh that smell. hmmm. think i know where it's coming from.

 

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  posted on 2/10/2007 at 12:37 AM
Some pretty interesting opinions you've expressed here John -- I would agree that Hendrix was a black man playing music loved mostly by whites -- but was he "hated" -- and "thrown out of bands" & all that stuff? Nope. Maybe Hendrix had his naysayers, but those did not include anyone in the music community -- EVERYONE recognized his talent.
Duane a "cracker"? A "hillbilly" Sorry dude, coming to Duane Allman's forum and saying "he was like the rest of us, lie with pigs & you'll wake up smelling" is not the way to make friends & influence people.
I don't disagree with everything you say, just most of it. My guess is, most people here think of the movie Deliverance when the word "hillbilly" comes to mind. Not Duane Allman.
Take a deep breath of that fresh air you mention -- maybe it will help you to think better when you're posting.

 

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  posted on 2/10/2007 at 02:33 AM
Windsinger, thank you so much for sharing your story.
May God bless and keep you.

 

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  posted on 2/10/2007 at 02:39 AM
A lady comes in, creates a blog, says she was the widow of a man named "Chuck", the guy who drove that truck that Duane ran into, and you believe her, but you call ME names.
I'm no Columbo, but I see holes in her story in FOUR,( maybe FIVE), places.
I would like to point them out as best I can:

1) : OK, her husband was the truck driver. But, she goes on about how 'poor' they were, how they 'got their food from a food bank', so much so that people handing out the food 'knew them by their first names'.
If her husband had a job driving truck and working construction, -which in itself offers better than average pay- then Chuck probably had enough money for food, unless they lived in a deluxe apartment above city hall. (Not saying they didn't, by the way.)
Another point: Food in the '60's was CHEAP, only starting to rise in price around 1972 or '73, after Nixon got reelected and turned the screws, getting completely into bed with multinational food profiteers, opening the rising price floodgate. Duane didn't stick around for that. and I doubt this lady was even around. either, talking of food hardship before all that happened. It was even before the gas crunch. Good times all around really, except if you were in the war.
Sounds pretty greasy to me.
They would have had to have been unemployed for a long time to have eaten post-dated vegetables and fruits, 'opening cans with no labels on them from a food bank', especially in that era.

I've been desperately poor most of my life, even begged canned food and Venison from food banks before, cut my fingers on more than one corned beef tin, eating things cold from cans risking botulism.
But, .... to tell you the truth, I've never opened a can without a label on it. And I'm an Indian Guide. This is a LADY we are talking about. They don't stoop to it, it is beneath them. Chuck's days in that house would have been numbered if they did, trust me. And they would have had to have been hopeless losers to have done it especially in that era.

And,.... another way I see it: first you get poor, THEN you go to a food bank, THEN you apply for food stamps, THEN you get another job. The food bank is the FIRST step toward finding help out of poverty, not the last. People with jobs buy their own food, too, maybe starting a garden to grow food. Exaggeration at best.
Windsinger might have been poor enough to have gotten food from a food bank, but maybe that happened when Chuck was not around, so as to stretch what little money he might have been sending her from afar to live on in his absence,(which I suspect was a lot of the time, come to think of it, making that very possible, but we'll get to that later, too.)

2) : If Chuck was a Vietnam veteran, he wasn't just discharged and told to hit the road with no military benefits, no formal training, no back pay or pension plan.
One of the good sides to being a soldier in the Vietnam era was that you could go to School on the GI Bill, get way more fringe benefits than lots of returning soldiers get today. The Vietnamese thought of them as "rich", rich enough to create a lot of Amarasian kids, rich enough for bar girls to follow them home to stateside. Lots of Madame Butterfly stories, and these people have had 3,000 years to figure out a good deal from a bad one. In their eyes, the American GI's had a pretty good deal and they wanted some of it, enough to put it in all the movies.
Windsinger got pregnant awfully fast after Chuck got back from 'Nam. I'm not saying things didn't happen that way, but there must have been some period of readjustment for Chuck. (Or maybe, just maybe, he was never discharged... eh?)


3) : She said that "Chuck" told her there was a 'huge amount of blood at the scene', and then wABNash wrote in that there wasn't. Duane's injuries were mostly internal. Another hole.

4) : And, I believe October 29 that year fell on a Friday. The whole thing happened mostly because it was around the time that the workweek was almost out, traffic more hectic, etc., the driver going back to the company to pick up his paycheck, etc. She said it was a Thursdayat maybe 3:00 P.M., in one instance.( I was 10 years old at the time and even I know what was going on.( Did anyone mention Halloween?) It was "Beggar's night" , because otherwise Trick or Treating might have conflicted with other Sunday activities.
Even without Hallowe'en, Thursdays are still way different from Fridays in this context. Even 3:00 P.M. on Thursday is way different from 4:30 P.M. on Friday.

I don't think Chuck was really a construction worker, nor did he get his paycheck in that way, otherwise Windsinger would have remembered the day better. He had another "Employer", so to speak, who paid him when the job was completely done.

5) : A man is dead, and her husband 'goes back to work the next day as if nothing happened'. Yes, that would surprise a reporter from Macon Telegraph.
It surprises me, too; bBecause he next day was Saturday.
Tears or no tears, that reporter asked a valid question, and she just hangs up on him. . If I were the truck driver and failed my fellow man by killing a great musician like Duane,( even by accident), in true samurai fashion, I would have ended my own life then and there, let alone do what he did and quickly forgetting it. I would exit this world in an "honorable" fashion, rather than continue on even one more day as cowardly scum. But here he 'just goes back to work'. Oh yeah. Believe that and I have a job for you at a Book Depository.

On another hand, Chuck sounds really stoic if he lived tough and found some strategy to forget unpleasant things quickly. Just the fact we are still talking about it after 36 years, and he was already trying to forget it 'the very next day', leads me to think something else is afoot.
Maybe he really WAS doing his job, so to speak. that is, if I wanted to forget, just so the case would never be solved. Tampering with evidence. Trained to forget.
Friends this is called MURDER. CIA style. Just like they probably did to all the other stars around that time threatening their power base and degrading our national anthem, Janis and Jim and Jimi, and Duane for dessert. -and maybe, lest we forget what happened to Berry, just a block away the following year..

6). After the Cuban Missile Crisis, there were a bunch of people trained at high salary to get rid of Castro, then suddenly left with nothing to do, though trained to kill and make it look natural. They didn't just go home and retire. They held onto their power and offed as many people as they could who were threatening the status quo as they were used to having it. Just the fact that Chuck was in the military at all, makes me also think maybe he worked under one of these guys and maybe they manipulated him to kill Duane as part of the deal to be to be discharged, jeez maybe even two birthdays thrown in to sweeten it, anything is possible, and don't underestimate it..

When you play around with guys I think Chuck might have been playing around with, to do what he had done, several years later, they'll get you, too,just to hide the evidence. Amen, and good riddance Chuck.
Five holes are enough for me,(or did i mention six). Even ONE hole is enough.

 

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