Thread: CORONAVIRUS, Wuhan, China

gina - 1/27/2020 at 10:31 PM

Officials keep saying they are not worried but now the US has 110 people in 26 states they are monitoring who have been screened at 5 airports for coronavirus. Just yesterday someone in Hartford was a confirmed case. They are confirmed cases in Wasington state [Seattle], Phoenix, Chicago, Texas.

In Wuhan in China they are putting together a prefab hospital with 1,000 beds opens in one week by Feb 3. They are also building three more because of what is going on there.

They have no drugs for it.

On top of that the flu this year is type B. The vaccines are only 58% effective. People are dieing from it in a couple of days. One 8 yr. Old in Atlanta had his kidneys shut down by day 2 after symptoms appeared.

We cannot afford a pandemic here on top of the flu. Trump must stop admitting anyone coming from China until the danger passes. Why isn't he doing it?

Edit: Thread title changed out of respect for Xi Jinping, the Chinese President, who does not want panic and for the exemplary job he is doing in epidemic management.

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BrerRabbit - 1/27/2020 at 10:51 PM

"If the thunder don't get you
Then the lightning will"


gina - 1/27/2020 at 11:06 PM

These are things from the Apocalyptic times we are living in.

There are swarms of locusts in Africa. Etc.


gina - 1/27/2020 at 11:17 PM

Five million people left Wuhan before the quarantine.
They left China and went other places. [Business Insider reports]. How many are carriers of the virus which can take up to two weeks to show symptoms.

13 countries have infected people.

2700 infected in China, 81 dead.

Others mentioned the 2011 movie Contagion, and say this is what it is like.


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gina - 1/27/2020 at 11:40 PM

Tomorrow, Tuesday

Charter flight FROM Wuhan, Boeing 737,

230 people coming to San Francisco. The US has 1,000 people it wants to evacuate from the US consulate and bring back here.

There are already people infected in Los Angeles.
[DAILYMAIL.CO.UK].



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gina - 1/29/2020 at 12:11 AM

China has 4515 cases nationwide, of those 1300 new cases. 106 deaths.

The first 1,000 bed prefab hospital opens today.

The second one in Lienshenshen with 1300 to 1500 beds opens Feb 5th.

A 121 member medical team from their National Health Commission left Beijing to go to Wuhan among them is nurse Hu Jing.
[From Tianshannet news].

Tongi Medical Lab is working 24 hrs. A day for the 6 hour blood test to confirm the virus using Reverse Transcriptase Polymerase Chain Reaction [RT-PCR]. They can test 200 samples per day.



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gina - 1/30/2020 at 01:05 PM

7711 infected in China,

81,000 being monitored.

3 US drug companies want to work on a vaccine.

Those evacuated from Wuhan that came back to US were taken to military facility in California to be held for 14 days.

The virus replicates every six days.


BrerRabbit - 1/30/2020 at 03:33 PM

Symptoms are generally mild on this one.


BrerRabbit - 1/30/2020 at 03:43 PM

quote:
These are things from the Apocalyptic times we are living in.

There are swarms of locusts in Africa. Etc.


Viruses, insect population spikes, have been happening for all of history. How do you think they knew what a plague was thousands of years ago? Because they happened occasionally.

Chillax.


BIGV - 1/30/2020 at 04:49 PM

quote:
Viruses, insect population spikes, have been happening for all of history.


Kind of similar to the heating and cooling cycles the Earth goes through?


BrerRabbit - 1/30/2020 at 05:16 PM

quote:
Kind of similar to the heating and cooling cycles the Earth goes through?


Sure. Maybe you are trying that strawman trick again to pin me on global warming, aint gonna happen, said it here many times, I think Al Gore is a hypocritical idiot. So yeah, good analogy. And speeded up due to international commerce. Same with global warming, maybe amped by emissions - I dont give a sh!t why its hapening. I dont need global warming to make me want clean air, water, and a healthy ecology. I was an environmentalist long before I was aware of global warming.

And I dont need to think a corona virus is the apocalypse to take a few precautions. Just glad it isnt Swine Flu 1918, smallpox, yellow fever - The Black Death took out a third of Europe. Everyone was sure it was the End Times back then.




gina - 1/30/2020 at 09:52 PM

quote:
Symptoms are generally mild on this one.


3 out of 10 who get it die. Mild symptoms? Their lungs do not function, they need to be ventilated to live.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51214864
At least 10% die
As of 25 January, of the 99 patients:

57 were still in hospital
31 had been discharged
11 had died

Lung assault
All of the 99 patients taken to the hospital had pneumonia - their lungs were inflamed and the tiny sacs where oxygen moves from the air to the blood were filling with water.

Other symptoms were:

82 had fever
81 had a cough
31 had shortness of breath
11 had muscle ache
nine had confusion
eight had a headache
five had a sore throat





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gina - 1/30/2020 at 09:54 PM

The UN declared a "global emergency"


https://www.zmescience.com/other/feature-post/georgia-guidestones-mysteriou s-instructions-for-the-post-apocalypse/



gina - 1/30/2020 at 10:06 PM

Some sources for news:

http://en.people.cn/index.html

http://global.chinadaily.com.cn/

http://english.news.cn/

The first patient was cured.
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-01/30/c_138743906.htm

https://www.shanghainews.net/


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/30/coronavirus-us-first-case-per son-to-person-transmission


gina - 1/30/2020 at 10:09 PM

Confirmed Cases By Country

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/countries-confirmed-cases-coronaviru s-200125070959786.html


gina - 1/30/2020 at 10:11 PM

Vaccines NOT READY in time for the Olympics in Tokyo.

Vaccines likely will not be ready in time for Tokyo 2020: Professor
Vaccines against the coronavirus probably will not be ready by the start of the Tokyo Summer Olympics, a professor who looked at health risks ahead of the Games said, adding that he hopes there was enough time to build defences.

Koji Wada, a professor of public health at the International University of Health and Welfare in Tokyo, co-authored a paper in 2018 that looked at health risks from the influx of visitors to the 2020 Games in July.

"We may have more information about the risk of infection and the risk of severity of getting the virus, so we can [be] prepared," Wada told Reuters news agency. "So we can have some precautions for infection control ... but I hope we can conduct the Tokyo Olympics as scheduled."

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/cloneofcloneofcloneofchina-battles-c oronavirus-o-200129233906291.html



BrerRabbit - 1/30/2020 at 10:17 PM

Bummer. Overhyped cold/flu. Whaddyagonnado?


gina - 1/30/2020 at 10:22 PM

This British man was a tourist. He got very sick in Phuket. He called his Mother and said he felt like he was going to die in the hospital. The Mother was vacationing in Spain and called the insurance company to get him transferred to Bangkok.

In his case the ventilator they put him on was reportedly too small for his lungs, causing fluid to build and abcesses. When he got to Bangkok, they reportedly put him on the correct ventilator size. Now they say he did not have the corona virus but has the flu. He is in the ICU.


https://thethaiger.com/news/krabi/suspected-british-coronavirus-patient-con firmed-not-to-have-the-virus

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/china-virus-coronavirus-sars- deaths-british-tourist-case-thailand-a9292026.html


https://uk.news.yahoo.com/ashley-shorley-thailand-chinese-coronavirus-flu-b ritish-tourist-sick-160422376.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6L y9zZWFyY2gueWFob28uY29tL3NlYXJjaDtfeWx0PUEyS0xmU3ZlVnpOZUw4d0FWRmRYTnlvQTtf eWxjPVgxTURNamMyTmpZM09RUmZjZ015QkdaeUEzbG1jQzEwQkdaeU1nTnpZaTEwYjNBRVozQnl hV1FEVjNSak0wSkljWEJUWXpKd1VFaFRkak5WWWxOMlFRUnVYM0p6YkhRRE1BUnVYM04xWjJjRE 5BUnZjbWxuYVc0RGMyVmhjbU5vTG5saGFHOXZMbU52YlFSd2IzTURNQVJ3Y1hOMGNnTUVjSEZ6Z EhKc0F6QUVjWE4wY213RE16SUVjWFZsY25rRFlYTm9iR1Y1SlRJd2MyaHZjblI1SlRJd1luSnBk R2x6YUNVeU1IWmxiblJwYkdGMGIzSUVkRjl6ZEcxd0F6RTFPREEwTWpNeE5USS0_cD1hc2hsZXk rc2hvcnR5K2JyaXRpc2grdmVudGlsYXRvciZmcjI9c2ItdG9wJmZyPXlmcC10JmZwPTE&gu ce_referrer_sig=AQAAAED-G-9ZlRUpJ

“The drains in Phuket into his lungs were too small and did not drain fluid hence the infection.”
Mr Shorley added his son was still very ill after undergoing a five-hour operation at Bumrungrad Hospital to remove abscesses and puss from his lungs.

He said Ashley, who is being treated with antibiotics and other drugs, would not be allowed to travel home until the grade A influenza virus had gone.

He currently has a hole in his lung and needs oxygen to breathe.

Mr Shorley said: “His lungs were covered with a thick plasma, his outer sack filled with poison puss so his lungs could not expand hence he had urgent seaplane transfer to Bangkok.

“He may undergo an operation when his fever from pneumonia drops to the correct level.”






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BrerRabbit - 1/30/2020 at 10:50 PM

Not near as bad as SARS was in 2003 so far. Your numbers are inflated and alarmist. Most fatalities elderly and already sick types.

From Business Insider: "The pneumonialike virus, which originated in Wuhan, China, has infected more than 8,100 people and killed 170.

So far, the virus does not seem to be as deadly as SARS, which killed 774 people from 2002 to 2003. SARS had a mortality rate of 9.6%, whereas about 2% of people infected with the new coronavirus have died. But the number of people infected after one month has already surpassed the SARS outbreak's eight-month total.

Many patients with coronavirus have already made full recoveries. According to Chinese officials, most of those who've died were elderly or had other ailments that compromised their immune systems."

Link, Business Insider, article has a good angle on the panic, which is worse than the disease itself:

https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-coronavirus-unnecessary-panic-experts -say-2020-1



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PhotoRon286 - 1/30/2020 at 11:09 PM

Well gina did say one thing I agree with on this latest "sign of the apocalypse" :

Phuk et


gina - 1/31/2020 at 12:45 AM

Other news sources:

Http://Hangzhou.com.cn

Http://shanghaiist.com

Http://szdaily.sznews.com

Http://news.cnnb.com.cn

Http://english.ts.cn

Http://english.chinamil.com.cn

Http://globaltimes.cn

Http://chinanews.net



gina - 1/31/2020 at 12:48 AM

quote:
Well gina did say one thing I agree with on this latest "sign of the apocalypse" :

Phuk et


Easy for you to say!


Skydog32103 - 1/31/2020 at 01:54 AM

quote:
Kind of similar to the heating and cooling cycles the Earth goes through?


A straw man is a form of argument and an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent.[1] One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man".

The typical straw man argument creates the illusion of having completely refuted or defeated an opponent's proposition through the covert replacement of it with a different proposition (i.e., "stand up a straw man") and the subsequent refutation of that false argument ("knock down a straw man") instead of the opponent's proposition.[2][3] Straw man arguments have been used throughout history in polemical debate, particularly regarding highly charged emotional subjects.


Stephen - 1/31/2020 at 05:17 AM

quote:
Vaccines NOT READY in time for the Olympics in Tokyo.

Vaccines likely will not be ready in time for Tokyo 2020: Professor
Vaccines against the coronavirus probably will not be ready by the start of the Tokyo Summer Olympics, a professor who looked at health risks ahead of the Games said, adding that he hopes there was enough time to build defences.




Yes, “two World Cup ski races that were cancelled in China b/c of the ongoing virus outbreak have been moved to Austria. The downhill & Super G were originally scheduled next month at Yanqing, site of the 2022 Beijing Olympics”

Yep it’s got people scared alright - gotta catch up on the links, esp that one Brer about the overpanic alarmist reaction being worse than any disease - chilling is the best medicine for them

We’re building de fences on the border, now time for virus defences ......my Corona didn’t have a lemon slice, that’s why I got a virus

Has coronavirus been passed down from malaria>yellow fever>TB>West Nile>Ebola & On - contagious viruses are nothing new really - stay well


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gina - 1/31/2020 at 10:03 PM

1-30-20 Friday

10,000 infected.
213 dead in China.

Some have said the death toll is higher. Everyone who is sick was not tested for the coronavirus. Those who were not tested and died are not recorded or reported in the official death toll numbers. Their death certificates list the cause of death as pneumonia. There are so many fatalities bodies are going from the hospital to the funeral homes and are being cremated. The second hospital in Lienshenshen opens 2-3, and the third hospital opens 2-5. The medical journal the Lancet says there may be 75,000 cases.



gina - 1/31/2020 at 10:09 PM

Remdesivir, an anti retroviral drug has been provided to China by Gilead pharmaceuticals. The drug treats Ebola, MERS, and Acute Respiratory Syndrome. Reported by Reuters.


https://www.medkoo.com/products/12094

Description: Remdesivir, also known as GS-5734, is an antiviral drug, and a novel nucleotide analog prodrug. Remdesivir inhibits murine hepatitis virus (MHV) with an EC50 of 30 nM, and blocks SARS-CoV and MERS-CoV in HAE cells with EC50s of both 74 nM in HAE cells after treatment for 24 h. GS-5734 inhibits both epidemic and zoonotic coronaviruses. It was developed by Gilead Sciences as a treatment for filovirus infections such as Ebola virus disease and Marburg virus. Remdesivir share the same core structure with that of GS-441524. Remdesivir may consider as a prodrug of GS-441524.

Remdesivir has been found to show reasonable antiviral activity against more distantly related viruses such as respiratory syncytial virus, Junin virus, Lassa fever virus, and MERS-coronavirus. GS-5734 was rapidly pushed through clinical trials due to the 2013–2016 West African Ebola virus epidemic crisis, eventually being used in at least one human patient despite its early development stage at the time. Preliminary results have been promising, and further clinical trials are planned.

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https://www.who.int/ebola/drc-2018/technical-issues-to-consider-for-ebola-p ep.pdf?ua=1

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(ZMapp, Remdesivir, REGN3470-3471-3479, or mAb114) should be strongly considered.


https://sciblogs.co.nz/infectious-thoughts/2020/02/02/coronavirus-update-dr ug-trials-and-asymptomatic-spread/

The first I heard about was a team at Imperial College London led by Professor Neil Ferguson. As of writing, they’ve published three reports, the first on the 17th January and the most recent on the 25th January.

They’ve been working back from the number of cases being seen outside of China and the probability a case would appear based on the number of people who were leaving from Wuhan International Airport. Given this is a new outbreak with a virus not ever seen before, they had to make some guestimates as to how infectious it is and the incubation period.

[Check Grant Jacobs’ explainer of how infectivity is measured, aka R0, and this fantastic graphic that has the R0’s of lots of different infectious microbes.]

Ferguson and colleagues’ estimates ranged from 190 – 5,341 cases by the 12th January in their first report, to between 1,000 – 9,700 by the 18th January in their second report. Prof Ferguson was then quoted in the Guardian last week as saying his best guest was there were 100,000 people infected with the virus.

A few days ago a paper appeared in the Lancet that describes pretty much the same analysis. Professor Joseph Wu and colleagues estimate that between 37,304 and 130,330 people have been infected in Wuhan as of 25th January.

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fel lowships/2019-nCoV-outbreak-report-17-01-2020.pdf


https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30260-9/ fulltext#seccestitle80







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gina - 1/31/2020 at 10:28 PM

Scientists in Hong Kong wrote in the Lancet medical journal they think 75 000 people in China are infected and each of those people would statistically come in contact with 2.6 other people potentially infecting them. There are 400 cases exported from Wuhan to Chonqing, 422 miles away, Beijing got 113 cases, Shanghai 98 cases. This is the time of New Years celebrations over there for 40 days you have a lot of people in the air and on the trains travelling. Originally it was two weeks before people got sick.

Reported in Yahoo/uk/style section


gina - 1/31/2020 at 11:18 PM

Xinhuanet.com/english

Has reported a quick screening test gives results in 30 minutes for nucleic acid reagent test kits. They were approved by China's NMPA to test for the corona virus. [2019-nCov].

Very good news.

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gina - 1/31/2020 at 11:28 PM

Many wonder how are the people in Wuhan handling this, being on lockdown in their homes? The BBC and Guardian from the UK reported people having a great solidarity with each other. They come out on their balconies and chant Wuhan-jiyou which means Wuhan stay strong.

They also sing and their neighbors join them in the evening. They are on lockdown during what should be their New Year's festivities. They are not down or despairing. They order food it gets delivered. They play ping pong and games in their apartments.

Their government built hospitals to help them. They want them to get well and get home. Amidst a serious problem they took the actions needed to care for their people.

We should try to be supportive of these people, because this could have happened anywhere.


gina - 2/1/2020 at 12:06 AM

Business Wire has reported 1-23-20 that Moderna Inc. Has received a funding award to develop a vaccine for the corona virus.

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20200123005458/en/

CAMBRIDGE, Mass.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Moderna, Inc., (Nasdaq: MRNA) a clinical stage biotechnology company pioneering messenger RNA (mRNA) therapeutics and vaccines to create a new generation of transformative medicines for patients, and the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (CEPI), today announced a new collaboration to develop an mRNA vaccine against the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV).

Moderna has strategic alliances with these pharmaceutical companies to work with them on vaccine development.


AstraZeneca,
Merck Inc,
Defense Advanced Research Projects (DARPA)
US Department of Defense and Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BADA)

Under the terms of the agreement, Moderna will manufacture an mRNA vaccine against 2019-nCoV, which will be funded by CEPI. The Vaccine Research Center (VRC) of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of NIH, collaborated with Moderna to design the vaccine. NIAID will conduct IND-enabling studies and a Phase 1 clinical study in the U.S.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/moderna-announces-funding-award-cepi-1415007 79.html







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gina - 2/2/2020 at 08:50 PM

https://www.xinhua.net.com/en

Nucleic acid reagent test kits for [2019-nCov] Corona virus approved by China NMPA. Generates results in 30 minutes.

So they can determine if someone has the virus quicker to start treatment.


gina - 2/2/2020 at 09:13 PM

The Shanghai Institute of Materia Medical and Wuhan Virus Institute of the Chinese Academy of Sciences jointly found that "Shuanghuanglian oral liquid" can inhibit new corona virus proliferation on a case led by Academician Jiang Hualing, who participated in SARS research.

The liquid contains honeysuckle, scutellarica baicalensis, and forsythia which detoxifies the body providing broad spectrum antiviral and bacteriostatic properties. In 2003 Zup Jianping's team from the Shanghai INstitute confirmed it had anti SARS corona virus effect. Also effective against flu strains:

H7N9, H1N1, H5N1, MERS.


REMARKS: Use natural substances first. Thumbs up for the Chinese scientists.


gina - 2/2/2020 at 09:17 PM

Cocktail of Flu, HIV drugs appears to helps to fight Corona virus: Thai Doctors.

By Panu Wongcha-um

BANGKOK (Reuters) - Thai doctors have seen success in treating severe cases of the new coronavirus with combination of medications for flu and HIV, with initial results showing vast improvement 48 hours after applying the treatment, they said on Sunday.

The drug treatment includes a mixture of anti-HIV drugs lopinavir and ritonavir, in combination with flu drug oseltamivir in large doses.

"This is not the cure, but the patient's condition has vastly improved. From testing positive for 10 days under our care, after applying this combination of medicine the test result became negative within 48 hours," Dr. Kriangska Atipornwanich, a lung specialist at Rajavithi, told reporters.

"This is not the cure, but the patient's condition has vastly improved. From testing positive for 10 days under our care, after applying this combination of medicine the test result became negative within 48 hours," Dr. Kriangska Atipornwanich, a lung specialist at Rajavithi, told reporters.

"The outlook is good but we still have to do more study to determine that this can be a standard treatment."

Chinese health officials have already been administering the HIV and flu drugs to fight the coronavirus. The use of the three together in a cocktail seemed to improve the treatment, the Thai doctors said.

Another doctor said that a similar approach in two other patients resulted in one displaying some allergic reaction but the other showed improvement.

"We have been following international practices, but the doctor increased the dosage of one of the drugs," said Somsak Akkslim, director-general of the Medical Services Department, referring to the flu medicine Oseltamivir.

Thailand has recorded 19 cases of coronavirus. Of the Thai patients, eight have recovered and gone home while 11 are still under treatment in hospitals.

Somsak said the health ministry will meet on Monday to discuss the successful treatment in the case of the 70-year-old but said it is still too soon to say that this approach can be applied to all cases.

"Initially we will apply this approach only to severe cases," he said.


COMMENTS: One flu drug, and two HIV drugs helped 8 out of 19 patients get well, and test negative so they were able to go home. 11 More patients are still at the hospital receiving the drug cocktail. Pray for them.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/cocktail-flu-hiv-drugs-appears-124753996.html


gina - 2/2/2020 at 09:24 PM

MORE OUTBREAKS of OTHER FLUS:

Phillipines:

https://news.yahoo.com/philippines-detects-first-african-swine-062807828.ht ml

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/regional/2020/02/02/philippines-detects-fir st-african-swine-fever-outbreak-in-southern-province


https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3048566/china-reports-outbr eak-deadly-bird-flu-among-chickens-hunan

https://nypost.com/2020/02/02/china-reports-bird-flu-outbreak-near-epicente r-of-coronavirus/

Bird Flu H5N1,The bird flu outbreak was reported Saturday in Hunan, which borders the province of Hubei where the coronavirus broke out last month. “The outbreak occurred in a farm in the Shuangqing district of Shaoyang city,” officials said. “The farm has 7,850 chickens, and 4,500 of the chickens have died from the contagion.”


Hong Kong Medical Workers Strike as outbreak worsens

https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/01/29/15000-hong-kong-medi cal-workers-threaten-strike-unless-border-closed-coronavirus/

They voted to strike.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-01/hong-kong-medical-worker s-vote-to-strike-as-outbreak-worsens

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10967866/coronavirus-europe-france-paris-deat h-brits/




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gina - 2/2/2020 at 09:34 PM


https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/01/asia/coronavirus-wuhan-discrimination-intl-h nk/index.html

Wuhan officials estimate about 5 million people had left the city for the annual Lunar New Year holiday before authorities canceled all outbound flights, trains and buses in an unprecedented lockdown on January 23.
Many of them are migrant workers or university students returning to their hometowns for new year family reunions. Others are holidaymakers taking advantage of the long annual break.

China only declared that the coronavirus could be transmitted from person to person on January 20, following a sudden jump in confirmed cases. Until then, authorities had said the outbreak was "preventable and controllable."


Remarks: 5 MILLION people left Wuhan BEFORE authorities cancelled all outbound flights etc. Where are those people now. How many were infected and how many did they infect? The world has not seen the height of this yet. Even the researchers have said one infected person statistically can infect 2.6 others, or 3 or 5 others. You have 5 MILLION people who went out of the city, how many of them are carriers transmitting the disease?

AND WHY HASN'T HE US CLOSED IT'S BORDERS TO PEOPLE COMING FROM CHINA? Why are they still coming thru the airports, travelling in BIG cities (NYC has 11 million people) infecting people anywhere. Yet the government still says don't worry.




gina - 2/3/2020 at 02:00 AM

Eric Toner, M.D. of John's Hopkins Center for Health Science took part in a simulation with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and concluded that "under the right circumstances" the corona virus could kill 65 Million people in 18 months.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/scientist-who-simulated-the-global-impact -of-a-coronavirus-outbreak-says-the-cats-already-out-of-the-bag-and-chinas- efforts-to-contain-the-disease-unlikely-to-be-effective-2020-01-24

http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/191017-press-release.html

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2020-01-30/johns-hopkins-toner-says-c hina-is-too-late-coronavirus-is-out-of-control-video



The Spanish flu killed 20 to 60 million in 1918.

He thinks the Chinese efforts to contain the disease are "unlikely to be effective".

Market Watch

He is not alone in his assessment of the possible death toll.

Yesterday a top Hong Kong medical official predicted the coronavirus could infect more than 60 per cent of the global population if containment methods fail.

Professor Gabriel Leung, chair of public health medicine in the city, said on Tuesday even if the coronavirus kills just 1 per cent of sufferers, it could still wipe out as many as 45 million people.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7990511/Coronavirus-infect-60-cent -global-population-controlled.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7995343/Coronavirus-outbreak-jus t-beginning-outside-China-says-expert.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/11/coronavirus-expert-warns-infe ction-could-reach-60-of-worlds-population

In the UK that translates to 400,000 people could die from it.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10967866/coronavirus-europe-france-paris-deat h-brits/

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-britain-uk-deaths-a43628 66.html













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gina - 2/4/2020 at 10:50 PM

Tuesday 2-4

CNN reported 20,000 confirmed cases in China.

China is going above and beyond in their response. Even making negative pressure ambulances, and they converted some exhibition centers into makeshift locations for sick people. Their response has been phenomenal but this is a very virulent virus. It has also been noted when a patient gets well, and people have, they can be re-infected their antibodies will not be enough to prevent that.

More later.


gina - 2/7/2020 at 01:04 AM

28, 353 confirmed cases.

565 deaths.


gina - 2/9/2020 at 02:46 AM

Saturday 2-8-20

Confirmed cases 34,800
Deaths 805

28 countries.

New cases at Contamines-Mointjoie ski resort, Chamonix, France.

John Edmunds Professor London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine said modeling done showed ten times more cases than is being reported and the number may be higher than that.

There are 40 cases in Singapore from people arriving from China.
Hong Kong, 161 cases from arrivals from China. 148 quarantined at home, 11 at hotels. 2 at quarantine camp. [per thesun.co.uk]

Fears 1.2 billion could be effected if the virus gets to Africa.

In Wuhan, Chen Qiushi, citizens journalist and human rights lawyer raised concerns about supplies shortages in hospitals and has disappeared since Thursday. China does not allow its citizens to criticize the government they consider it a misdemeanor and causes problems with social order.


gina - 2/9/2020 at 03:26 AM

Extended coverage on the Ski Resort in France.

The effected were 3 British nationals, totalling 4 adults and one child. It is a cluster grouping of several cases around one original case, a British national staying in Haute Savoie returning on Jan 24 from Singapore where he was Jan 20 thru 23.

There were 9 people hospitalized, 3 Brits in Grenoble, 2 others in St.Etienne Hospital. 4 at Croix Rousse Hospital in Lyon - 2 proven cases and 2 other relatives

2 schools CM1 and St. Gervais closed per Mayor of St. Gervais, Jean Marc Peillex.

Full info at
Let Dauphine Libere

Https://www.ledauphine.com

Scroll down to find option to read in English.

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gina - 2/9/2020 at 03:45 AM

France24

Has reported 20 people from the cruise ship Diamond Princess off Yokohama, Japan testing positive, 3700 others confined to quarters.

Prime Minister Shinzo Abe reports 1 confirmed case on the Westerdam cruise ship that is heading to Japan.

Hong Kong. 3600 confirmed cases the World Dream cruise ship.


While in China, there is a shortage of 2250 medical personnel in Hubei per Deputy Provincial Director Yang Yunyan. I hate to say his name, don't want him to disappear and be punished.

BGI group genome sequencing company in south China opened lab in Wuhan to test 10,000 people per day.

Shanghai Dasheng Health Products Manufacture Co. Is running 24 hours a day making 80 000 masks per day. [Per Global Times China].

China makes 50 per cent of the world's masks, so in this huge crisis they have to deal with their needs there plus supply the world. Not easy.

The Drs. are working schedules worse than our interns. Dr. Zhang Quiping who is stepmother to Dr. Chen Bo, Director of Outpatient Department of Wuhan Lung Hospital, worked for more than 10 days seeing more than 300 patients per day. She ate in a hospital office, rested in a duty room, rotated shifts with other Dr.'s taking only a few hours off each day. Had no extra clothes washes and dries what she wears. Not sure if she got any extra clothes. They believe they must do all they can.

Can the US and other nations ask what we can do? Even just send clean, sterile clothes to the Dr.'s and nurses?

Update:
Good news on the supply front.

World Health Organization [WHO] Director Tedros Adhanom-Ghebreyesus announced at their meeting in Geneva today the WHO is sending testing kits masks gloves respirators and gloves to every effected region. Michael Ryan Executive Director for the WHO program said the supply chain is not just made up of producers but also the producers of raw materials wholesalers and retailers.

Update on Medical Personnel

The third group of medical teams headed out from Second Xiangya Hospital of Central Southern University today.
The first group of medical teams headed out from Third Xiangya Hospital of Central Southern University today.
From People's Daily in China.



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gina - 2/9/2020 at 04:11 AM

There is a beautiful video from a 24 year old nurse in Wuhan who was diagnosed with the virus, followed Dr.'s orders, used Oseltamavir and another local drug, self quarantined for 11 days, is well. Beautiful lady, encouraging story, 1,722 people have been cured.

Https://www.globaltimes.cn

Scroll to her video. Nurse Jia Na is an inspiration.



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gina - 2/9/2020 at 05:23 AM

You know I don't give praise unless it is deserved.

Firstly though

There are some people in our government who want to suppress news coming out of China, yep I got that nasty 404 page when the government wants to deny access to information, on one of the English translated websites of a paper coming out of China. That is what our government does. I don't even want to say did something get out of Ft. Detrick and end up in China and the guilty ones now worry they won't be able to say it began in China? The coincidence of it happening during flu season should make anyone wonder. Why might they do that? Trade deals, particularly 5G and the companies involved, remember the US going after Huwei, it's only the beginning. Toyota has 21 manufacturing plants in China, Kia also has plants, car parts may be delayed because of the situation in China but that is just an unplanned thing. The 5G technology is HUGE financially.
If you think we wouldn't, read some of what our government has done over the years.

Read Rogue State the book by William Blum.

Xi Jinping spoke with Trump Friday. Xi wants people to stay calm.

His approach is assess in a calm manner.
Adapt and adopt response measures in a reasonable way.
China carried out national mobilization, across the board deployment, and swift responses.
They adopted the most comprehensive and rigorous prevention and control measures and launched the peoples war against the epidemic.

China deserves praise for how they are handling it.

They built hospitals not FEMA concentration camps for their citizens. They truck in fresh produce and food. People can go every 2 days to get food for their households. You want to know what our government is doing, reportedly making spam yes that awful canned luncheon meat with ramen noodles and an egg like product and warehousing that for when the crops fail and the cattle die in this country due to the climate change.

See how other nations treat their people and respond to this outbreak. Look, learn.

China stay strong amidst our nasty sanctions. Can't we at least stop punishing them in that way?



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gina - 2/11/2020 at 10:39 PM

2- 11-20

40,000 infected.
1,000 dead.

The Daily Mail reported a map was created using all phone tracking data which shows how travelers may have spread the virus fro m Wuhan to 400 cities nationwide unknowingly because symptoms had not occurred yet and Wuhan was not on lockdown. How many thousands, sit down for this one, 60 000 out of 5 million people traveled since the beginning of the outbreak before lockdown.

No I have not forgotten about Dr. Wenliang. He became sick 12-30, dieng 2-6-20. He leaves behind a four year old child AND his wife is pregnant due in September. So the baby was conceived either prior to or when he became infected. There is another case of a woman giving birth to a baby born positive with the virus, whether it was transmitted in utero or before that is not known yet.

Many have railed against the government's treatment of Dr. Wenliang for his criticism of knowledge sharing about the coronavirus but there was more. He was reportedly also interested in the protests at Tianamen Square and the arab spring in Egypt. Advocacy of those things during an epidemic would of course rile up anger from any government. Could you imagine Trump if the US was the country dealing with the epidemic instead of China and people wanted a Pelosi spring? If millions of people protested during an epidemic the results would be catastrophic, tragic resulting in the loss of lives due to not being able to contain the disease.

I will try to have a decent epitaph for Dr. Wenliang forthcoming.

The US government has opened more military sites including Ft. Hamilton and Ft. Dix to send people to if they become sick. There are 11 more sites. The hospitals are full with flu cases, no more room in metro NY. If you get sick here you will be contained at a military facility. Experts have said the proliferation of the disease should stop by May. But that does not mean it is over. Next fall, there may be more, and the virus is already mutating. If you have antibodies against it they will not be strong enough to guarantee safety from being re-infected.







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Jerry - 2/12/2020 at 07:15 PM

Gina, if you think the US is suppressing info about the coronavirus spread, read what is possibly an exposed cover-up from China.

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/did-chinas-tencent-accidentally-leak-true- terrifying-coronavirus-statistics

Images show what could be the actual coronavirus infection figure at 154,203, and the death toll at 24,589 on the "Epidemic Situation Tracker".


gina - 2/13/2020 at 09:13 PM

Clarification, the confirmed case numbers that most media has been receiving have seemed low to some researchers. The reason is the numbers reported from Wuhan are only from the Hubei province.

The province currently has 48,206 active case, but al Jazeera reports an aggregate total of 60,000 cases nationwide. However Fox news says the 60,000 number is cases across 26 countries. We have seen the map with cases in other countries. There are not 10,000 plus cases in other countries, so the 60,000 number must be for all of China and other countries combined. There are 50 million people in China, 60,000 cases out of 50 million people is credible. North Korea denies any cases, many do not believe that. China is doing a great job in managing and containing the virus as well as curing people. The 769 who receive the generic Remdesivir should begin to start getting well. It just takes time.



[Per Al Jazeera].

There are some amazing innovations being done in Bitan Ditan where President Xi Jinping visited on Monday, including implementing usage of artificially intelligent robots in the hospital doing everything from sanitizing to taking temperatures, communicating with patients, running real time radiologic scans on their lungs. Info is video linked conferences via 5G telecommunications to the Dr.s and scientists in Wuhan and elswhere.

https://en.people.cn







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gina - 2/13/2020 at 09:38 PM

I also want to say during this time of flu and hacking [ here in NY] seems like a lot of people have that hack. The cough that just stays there. I had it bad myself last week. It was like allergies on top of a hacking cough. Still have a little hack. Antibiotics would not do me any good. The cure? God's medicines. Oregano [from Spain must be Meditteranean], ginger, garlic. ALL of those have antiseptic properties. Lemons, vinegar.

If you don't want to cook go to a Chinese or Thai restaurant, get spicy food. Jalopenas, Chile powder or paprika will also help you.

If you have the flu your immunity is down. Antibiotics are for bacteria. Flu is viral, but if you do not clear up the goop in your lungs, you will risk infection and subsequent sepsis.

Green tea, echinacea, grapefruitseed-extract, goldenseal, and that oregano capsules or liquid extract.

And at this time of misery for many please remember to patronize your local Chinese restaurants. They have been feeding you for years and want to continue. There is no correlation between them and the corona virus. It is safe.





gina - 2/15/2020 at 01:45 AM

2-14-20

Firstly it has been estimated by Dr. Gabriel Leung [guardian.co.uk] that within 3 months time, 60 per cent of the population on the earth can be effected by the corona virus. He managed the SARS epidemic as well as swine flu outbreak of 2009. This was reported on 2-11 by Mia Jankowitz for Business Insider.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/11/coronavirus-expert-warns-infe ction-could-reach-60-of-worlds-population

Now today there is a second wave of flu starting. David Weber, Infectious Disease specialist with University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill says we have not even peaked for flu yet. 26 million got sick, 250, 000 were hospitalized and 14,000 died from influenza and the season has not peaked yet.

https://www.mlive.com/news/2020/02/us-flu-deaths-hit-14000-havent-peaked-ye t-cdc-says.html

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/amid-coronavirus-fears-a-second-wave-of-f lu-hits-us-kids/ar-BB100Dr7


Yesterday, the Military Times reports they are preparing for Corona virus pandemic. Yep, the "p" word. North com received an Executive Order by the Joint Staff approved by Defense Secretary Mark Esper to "implement the Department of Defense Global Campaign Plan for Pandemic Influenza and Infectious Diseases order 3551-13".

They plan for "response, isolation, quarantine, restriction of movement and community based intervention. "

So flu and/or corona pandemic preparations.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/02/13/us-military-pre pping-for-coronavirus-pandemic/










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gina - 2/15/2020 at 02:10 AM

I understand the seriousness of what is to come. We need to comprehend that we have an extended FLU season started in December will last until May, and now a secondary threat coming along.

If you are sick, do you have a fever? If so go to a Doctor, tell him all your symptoms, use whatever meds he tells you to use. If you do not have a fever, self quarantine yourself at home until you are better. I took time off from work two weeks ago, I had a hacking cough. My solution was found in spicy foods from Chinese restaurants. If you are wary, you can add herbs and spices to your own food.

With regards to coughs, there are two types, productive and non productive. A productive cough will bring up any mucus you have so you can spit it out. An unproductive cough is a dry cough. If you have a dry cough moisturize the air with a cool mist humidifier, take an expectorant like Guifenesin you have to get rid of the mucus or it can get infected and then you can get pneumonia.

Have warm liquids, soup, broth, tea.

State and federal governments should make it easy for sick people to self quarantine at home, with guaranteed job protections much like the Family Medical Leave act protections. In the competitive world we live in, people are scared to take time off because businesses are cut throat and will fire you. Their main concern is their money and the work has to get done, you are just a peon and they will pee on you and give your job to someone else. They do not care, they have no loyalty. It's all about the money.

We cannot have sick people who are contagious all over the subways, busses, trains, or epidemic and pandemics will follow. The governments have to step up and help out the workers.



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gina - 2/15/2020 at 06:56 PM

There are also students from other countries trapped in Wuhan due to the lockdown. Pakistan has established a means of communication for them to contact their families.

https://dailytimes.com.pk/558563/pakistan-established-hotline-to-help-famil ies-of-trapped-students-in-wuhan/





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HIGHWAY61REVISITED - 2/15/2020 at 09:51 PM

We all have opinions about this. Nobody, not even in the media, mentions the source. It is widely thought that this started in a meat market. China has an appalling record when it comes to animal welfare. There is a high probability that this outbreak was caused buy eating Pangolin's. This is an animal that is being trafficked and slaughtered to the brink of extinction for its scales and meat. Snakes, bats and many other wild animals are being killed. The world should have woken up after the Sars virus. Nothing seems to have been learned. Sadly I doubt it ever will be.


gina - 2/19/2020 at 09:39 PM

They keep saying they think it is from bats and people want to eat them because it boosts their immunity. They don't eat them because they are poor, it is a delicacy. They eat all kinds of wild animals it is disgusting.

Today's count is 73,000 confirmed cases.

1,873 deaths.

But, as Chun Chang [Market Watch] pointed out they are winning the war on this because this week the number of new cases dropped from 5090 down to 1886

AND recoveries are up from 1081 to 1701.

They know what they are doing. They have contained the virus successfully and are treating people in the best ways possible. Xi Jinping has down an incredible job.







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