Thread: Affordable care

BrerRabbit - 9/1/2019 at 04:51 PM

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Hey Brer, did you read the study produced by the Heritage Foundation?

it's not a long read, but remember that this is a study, not a proposal, on health care and it's future.
https://www.heritage.org/social-security/report/assuring-affordable-health- care-all-americans


Had not read the whole thing before,Jerry. it is a well thought out and sensible approach. Thanks for posting the link - set up a new thread to reply because that ridiculous Blacks Love Trump thread is pretty much a surrealistic cesspool of belligerent idiocy.

This is a good topic and deserves its own thread .

[Edited on 9/1/2019 by BrerRabbit]


Jerry - 9/9/2019 at 02:56 PM

I firmly believe we need some type of national health care program, just not one run by the government.
Single payer might work if the charge for medical procedures was the same from coast to coast.
I don't think that's going to happen since the cost of living is different from region to region, and even from town to town.
It costs less for me to live in Byron that it did to live in Macon, and I only moved a little over 15 miles.

If Byron opened a surgical mega-center, it should cost less to have your knee replacement or whatever surgery done here than in the places like Atlanta, Augusta, Columbus, or even Macon.

So I propose that as part of the national health care program projects like those be included. The price for medical procedures done in those centers be the national average what is charged to them across the nation.
Some area centers would have prices higher than local, but most would be lower than local.

Any suggestions?


porkchopbob - 9/9/2019 at 03:30 PM

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I firmly believe we need some type of national health care program, just not one run by the government.

The Health Care/Insurance industry isn't just going to change itself when it's raking in profits left and right. How do you propose a national system would be implemented across state lines without Federal shepherding?


Jerry - 9/9/2019 at 03:57 PM

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quote:
I firmly believe we need some type of national health care program, just not one run by the government.

The Health Care/Insurance industry isn't just going to change itself when it's raking in profits left and right. How do you propose a national system would be implemented across state lines without Federal shepherding?


There are already some country wide companies such as Humana and United Healthcare. Blue Cross/Blue Shield are franchises that are done state by state and is not a national company.
You would first have to get rid of the individual laws from different states that prevents the health care industry from working across state lines.
You would have to form an independent oversight organization to help set up the centers and figure the costs.
Each center would be independent of any local institution, doctors would be contractors-not employees, and the centers would have to compete with other health centers for patients.


emr - 9/9/2019 at 06:58 PM

quote:
I firmly believe we need some type of national health care program, just not one run by the government.
Single payer might work if the charge for medical procedures was the same from coast to coast.
I don't think that's going to happen since the cost of living is different from region to region, and even from town to town.
It costs less for me to live in Byron that it did to live in Macon, and I only moved a little over 15 miles.

If Byron opened a surgical mega-center, it should cost less to have your knee replacement or whatever surgery done here than in the places like Atlanta, Augusta, Columbus, or even Macon.

So I propose that as part of the national health care program projects like those be included. The price for medical procedures done in those centers be the national average what is charged to them across the nation.
Some area centers would have prices higher than local, but most would be lower than local.

Any suggestions?



Medicare payment rates vary by location to factor in COL. Interestingly enough, except for high paid specialists who can afford to not participate in insurance physicians are probably the only professionals who can make more working in a "poorer" "less desirable" area


adhill58 - 9/9/2019 at 08:03 PM

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I firmly believe we need some type of national health care program, just not one run by the government. Single payer might work if the charge for medical procedures was the same from coast to coast.

The Health Care/Insurance industry isn't just going to change itself when it's raking in profits left and right. How do you propose a national system would be implemented across state lines without Federal shepherding?


Yes, it is regulated differently from state to state, but we have a national healthcare system. Everyone in the nation can buy health insurance if they can afford it. It is regulated differently from state to state, but that is what the ACA was working to fix. Namely, making baseline requirements that policies in every state had to meet. The ACA also expanded Medicaid in states that accepted funding for it. It is not a government-run system (exept for the Medicaid part) as all of the private insurance companies still offer the policies.

A single payer system not run by the government is called a monopoly. I do not see that helping the cost of healthcare come down.


Skydog32103 - 9/10/2019 at 02:38 PM

Our taxes should provide healthcare for all somehow, however, it will never happen as long as we place a higher value on freedom to be irresponsible than affordable health care for all. We all probably want quality affordable healthcare, but we want our freedom to become obese more. We want our freedom to smoke and drink more too. We want the freedom to work 60 hours a week to afford a nice home, even if it causes heart problems. Our hospitals and doctors offices are heavily burdened by people lined up outside their door from lifestyle illnesses. If we are going to prioritize the freedom to be irresponsible, then we’ll always have healthcare problems. We must stop incentivizing poor lifestyle choices first. If all of our resources are tied up treating obesity issues, then what choice does our healthcare industry have? But as soon as any such policy is proposed, some people sadly feel victimized because they are being asked to be a better contributor to society.


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