Thread: HHS Officials Ordered To Not Contradict Trump On Gun Violence

adhill58 - 8/21/2019 at 10:46 PM

Health and Human Services Department employees were told not to publicly contradict Trump's claims on mental health and mass shootings.

Let's silence real experts and let the orgy of ignorance continue. Thanks a lot GOP.

MartinD28 - 8/21/2019 at 11:48 PM

Wait...what? Why wouldn't he know more than HHS employees? He knows more about most subjects than those that serve him. Look, he even said he's the chosen one.

BrerRabbit - 8/21/2019 at 11:57 PM

Our government muzzling free speech of an agency that is funded by and serves the taxpayer.

[Edited on 8/22/2019 by BrerRabbit]

Jerry - 8/22/2019 at 08:31 PM

If I read the article correctly, wasn't it HHS that put out the memo?

adhill58 - 8/23/2019 at 06:40 PM

If I read the article correctly, wasn't it HHS that put out the memo?

Yes, HHS put out the memo to it's own doctors and scientists to not contradict the empty ramblings of a purposefully ignorant jackass who thinks his oversimplified and fake talking points should dominate the national debate about a real epidemic that is actually killing Americans. The Secretary of HHS is Alex Azar, is the former lobbyist that trump appointed to run the Department.

Skydog32103 - 8/23/2019 at 07:33 PM

“Mental illness and hatred pull the trigger. Not the gun,” Trump said immediately after the shootings. In the following days, he doubled down on his statement, arguing that America should reopen mental institutions shuttered decades ago as a way to address mass shootings.

While mental illness is sometimes a factor in such shootings, it is rarely a predictor, according to a growing body of research. Most studies of mass shooters have found that no more than a quarter of them have diagnosed mental illness. Researchers have noted more commonly shared attributes include a strong sense of resentment, desire for notoriety, obsession with other shooters, a history of domestic violence, narcissism and access to firearms.

An interview process to get a gun, just like a job, would easily expose the people described in the last sentence. Put them on the no-buy list permanently.

With the data presented above, I can see why HHS didn’t want mental health to be the primary scapegoat, since “no more than a quarter of shooters are diagnosed”. If the main predictor is narcissism, resentment, and a desire for notoriety, and not “mental illness”, then why would the HHS want to associate shootings with a group of people who are more than 75% peaceful?

I take the HHS memo as opposition to Trump’s idiotic comments.

[Edited on 8/23/2019 by Skydog32103]

BIGV - 8/24/2019 at 04:58 AM

Who screens and interviews people when guns are purchased on the street?

gina - 9/1/2019 at 09:32 PM

It is just a ploy to disarm regular citizens so that a new world order can take over and you can't defend yourself; although since they have more weapons and ammo than any citizen can stockpile, (even going to Dick's every moment they are not working like many people - so what are ya doing for the weekend, oh relaxing and of course going to Dick's).

Just in case you missed it. nment-stockpiling-hundreds-millions-rounds-am/

"On his campaign website, U.S. House candidate James Buchal claims that the government "is stockpiling hundreds of millions of rounds of ammunition for domestic use."

"The GAO report found that as of October 2013, DHS had about 159 million rounds -- enough to meet the training and operational needs of its firearm-carrying personnel for about 22 months, it said. The agency has more than 70,000 armed personnel, the most of any federal agency, according to the report.

The Department of Justice is second with 69,000 armed personnel. The DOJ reported its ammunition inventory as enough to last from 13 to 20 months. The report did not translate that to specific figures but provided other information that enabled it to calculate a range of about 90 million to about 138 million rounds.

Together, those two agencies represent 80 percent of federal armed personnel, and together they have roughly 250 million to 300 million rounds of ammunition on hand.

A government report indicated that the federal Department of Homeland Security, as of October 2013, had an estimated 159 million rounds in inventory, down from 178 million rounds in April 2013 and 193 million in November 2012. The report also found that DHS and Department of Justice -- which employ 80 percent of the federal government’s armed personnel -- have steadily decreased ammunition purchases since 2009. Projected purchases by DHS for this year will be the lowest in more than five years. Estimated ammunition inventories for both agencies also continue to fall."

Remember the Jade Helm exercises conducted on U.S. soil......

BrerRabbit - 9/2/2019 at 04:52 AM

Planet Waco

BrerRabbit - 9/2/2019 at 04:54 AM

W.A.C.O. "We Aint Comin Out"

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