Thread: Trump to address public any minute regarding mass shootings

crazyjoe - 8/5/2019 at 02:17 PM

The last thing i want to hear is this vile jack ass acting all concerned and sympathetic about the the hatefullness and violence, when he has spent the last 4 years doing nothing but inciting hate, preaching hate and condoning violent behavior and working his unbelievably low brow following, all the while defending the NRA and white hate groups alike, this man is a hypocritical, walking, talking and steaming pile of chit!!! Just my opinion of course.........Peace.........joe


MartinD28 - 8/5/2019 at 04:12 PM

Didn't he have a summit at the White House after the murders in the school in Florida? He made all these nice statements for the cameras. What are the results and progress from that? What's changed from a policy and law standpoint? Don't expect him to lead on this. In the end, he's $upported by and bends over for the NRA.


crazyjoe - 8/5/2019 at 04:12 PM

He certainly didn't say much, especially about how his constant vilifyng, bashing and demonizing of Hispanic Peoples has directly lead to most of the violence and hatred we've been enjoying lately.........joe


BIGV - 8/5/2019 at 04:29 PM

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He certainly didn't say much, especially about how his constant vilifyng, bashing and demonizing of Hispanic Peoples has directly lead to most of the violence and hatred we've been enjoying lately.........joe


Proof? Or just more easily cast blame?

“Directly lead”.....


jkeller - 8/5/2019 at 04:54 PM

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He certainly didn't say much, especially about how his constant vilifyng, bashing and demonizing of Hispanic Peoples has directly lead to most of the violence and hatred we've been enjoying lately.........joe


Proof? Or just more easily cast blame?

“Directly lead”.....


I see you are still defending everything that Trump does.

Defend this: Trump said the Ohio shootings occurred in Toledo.


crazyjoe - 8/5/2019 at 05:46 PM

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He certainly didn't say much, especially about how his constant vilifyng, bashing and demonizing of Hispanic Peoples has directly lead to most of the violence and hatred we've been enjoying lately.........joe


Proof? Or just more easily cast blame?

“Directly lead”.....



Gimme a break V, Trumpty and his wanna be Nazi, ass lickin crew (Mulvany, Barr etc) are playing the week minded, hate filled, disfunctional portion of our white population like a cheap piana!!! I mean I guess it could be possible that it's all just coincidence that mass shootings are becoming common place by folks spewing identical hate to what Trump does, I guess it's possible that his likening all Hispanics to ms13, all his calling them rapists, his locking their children in cages without, all the stupid racist jokes and violent chants at his rallies, including joking about the mass shooting of Hispanics, which strangely happens right after that rally??? I guess it's possible there is no connecton??? Gimme a Fluckin break!!!!.............joe



BrerRabbit - 8/5/2019 at 05:54 PM

Hitler was mentally ill too, yet history judges him by his racist crimes. He was a textbook psycho, but that has never been seen as a reason to absolve his responsibility.

[Edited on 8/5/2019 by BrerRabbit]


adhill58 - 8/5/2019 at 08:23 PM

I heard the speech that Trump was forced to make on the radio this morning. It really sounded painful for him to have to stick to a script. I am sure he will lay off his cheerleading for white supremacists for a couple of weeks, maybe. Also, his attention span is so short that after four minutes of really having to concentrate on what he was saying, he called Dayton "Toledo". ANYBODY who thought this jackass even being nominated to be president of anything was remotely acceptable has part of the blame of this constant sh*tshow. They can deny that its their fault, and they can deny that it's a sh*tshow, but that really doesn't change anything. He is a human garbage can.

He was right about one thing: the internet is full of horrible people. The best example of this are twitter celebrities like Donald Trump.

Also, video game machine guns are apparently more dangerous than real machine guns.


adhill58 - 8/5/2019 at 08:37 PM

Also, Trump said he is working with tech / computer/ internet companies to find mass murderers before they act.

I am pretty sure this was the concept of a CBS TV show from a few years back. I remember seeing the commercials during NFL games. Maybe he could also see if MacGyver or the A-team would work on this.


BIGV - 8/5/2019 at 09:05 PM

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I see you are still defending everything that Trump does.


You can see it anyway you choose. You see it as defending the President. I see this whole thing as finding ANYONE to blame but the responsible party.

WHO pulled the trigger?
WHO wrote the manifest?
WHO is going to get the death penalty for THEIR actions?


Skydog32103 - 8/5/2019 at 10:00 PM

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I see this whole thing as finding ANYONE to blame but the responsible party.

WHO pulled the trigger?
WHO wrote the manifest?
WHO is going to get the death penalty for THEIR actions?


Calm down. People are just saying that we should be rejecting language from any leader that feeds into fear and hatred. You clearly just need something to whine about everyday, or troll, or seek attention, or whatever it is you use this site for.


BIGV - 8/5/2019 at 10:18 PM

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I see this whole thing as finding ANYONE to blame but the responsible party.

WHO pulled the trigger?
WHO wrote the manifest?
WHO is going to get the death penalty for THEIR actions?


Calm down. People are just saying that we should be rejecting language from any leader that feeds into fear and hatred. You clearly just need something to whine about everyday, or troll, or seek attention, or whatever it is you use this site for.


I've an idea. Since zero of what I've written was directed towards you, how about you just mow your own lawn and go take out whatever frustrations in life you have on someone standing right in front of you?


PhotoRon286 - 8/6/2019 at 01:29 AM

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I see this whole thing as finding ANYONE to blame but the responsible party.

WHO pulled the trigger?
WHO wrote the manifest?
WHO is going to get the death penalty for THEIR actions?


Calm down. People are just saying that we should be rejecting language from any leader that feeds into fear and hatred. You clearly just need something to whine about everyday, or troll, or seek attention, or whatever it is you use this site for.


I've an idea. Since zero of what I've written was directed towards you, how about you just mow your own lawn and go take out whatever frustrations in life you have on someone standing right in front of you?


I have an idea.

Maybe you should be the one to STFU instead of berating anyone who doesn't agree with your supposed (and suspect) "libertarian" ideals.

No one with four working brain cells should be defending the orange buffoon over his disgusting response to this tragedy.

Did you approve of his wedding crashing at his golf club just hours after the first massacre???


adhill58 - 8/6/2019 at 02:25 AM

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I see you are still defending everything that Trump does.


You can see it anyway you choose. You see it as defending the President. I see this whole thing as finding ANYONE to blame but the responsible party.

WHO pulled the trigger?
WHO wrote the manifest?
WHO is going to get the death penalty for THEIR actions?


I get your argument, but the legal system can hold other people liable for someone else's crime. Bartenders can be punished criminally for someone else's drunk driving if there is a fatality. I am not saying that anyone else can or should be held criminally liable in this case, but the "individual" is not always the only person responsible. It is not always that simple. Another example is the teenage girl who was recently convicted for encouraging a friend to commit suicide.


BIGV - 8/6/2019 at 02:59 AM

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Maybe you should be the one to STFU


Right back at you. Pal


BIGV - 8/6/2019 at 03:06 AM

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I get your argument, but the legal system can hold other people liable for someone else's crime. Bartenders can be punished criminally for someone else's drunk driving if there is a fatality.


The day I see any Bartender climb over the bar and put their foot on the guests head and forcibly pour alcohol down their throats, I will buy this argument. At some time during the evening, we all know when that last drink or shot was the one.

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I am not saying that anyone else can or should be held criminally liable in this case, but the "individual" is not always the only person responsible. It is not always that simple. Another example is the teenage girl who was recently convicted for encouraging a friend to commit suicide



I am not without passion or empathy, the scenario described above is very sad indeed and displays pathetic behavior by the encouraging party. Also a prime example of extremely poor parenting....I am glad she was convicted. Let her stew in that guilt as she rots in Jail..

On a side note, How many here know of families where the children can do no wrong?


adhill58 - 8/6/2019 at 03:44 AM

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I get your argument, but the legal system can hold other people liable for someone else's crime. Bartenders can be punished criminally for someone else's drunk driving if there is a fatality.


The day I see any Bartender climb over the bar and put their foot on the guests head and forcibly pour alcohol down their throats, I will buy this argument. At some time during the evening, we all know when that last drink or shot was the one.


I am not saying I agree with it, or that you should, but our legal system can and does hold other people responsible in some situations... not just the individual.


BIGV - 8/6/2019 at 03:58 AM

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I get your argument, but the legal system can hold other people liable for someone else's crime. Bartenders can be punished criminally for someone else's drunk driving if there is a fatality.


The day I see any Bartender climb over the bar and put their foot on the guests head and forcibly pour alcohol down their throats, I will buy this argument. At some time during the evening, we all know when that last drink or shot was the one.


I am not saying I agree with it, or that you should, but our legal system can and does hold other people responsible in some situations... not just the individual.


I see your point. I would add that nothing is absolute, just exhausted from people trying to avoid responsibility for their actions.....


Skydog32103 - 8/6/2019 at 12:50 PM

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just exhausted


We can tell.


adhill58 - 8/6/2019 at 01:01 PM

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On a side note, How many here know of families where the children can do no wrong?


I agree that spoiled brats suck... especially when they get elected president. I mean, talk about someone who has avoided responsibility his whole life.

[Edited on 8/6/2019 by adhill58]


goldtop - 8/6/2019 at 04:38 PM

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On a side note, How many here know of families where the children can do no wrong?


I agree that spoiled brats suck... especially when they get elected president. I mean, talk about someone who has avoided responsibility his whole life.

[Edited on 8/6/2019 by adhill58]


Rim shot...


BIGV - 8/6/2019 at 05:12 PM

According to CBS News 68 people were shot in Chicago over the 4th of July weekend resulting in 5 fatalities. Where is the outrage?

Mass shootings make the headlines because it fits the agenda, but the constant violence in America's inner cities falls to the back pages.

Why?

On the weekend of July 29th in Chicago 39 people were shot with 9 dying

On August 26 of this year there were 4 people shot, The list goes on.

Where is the outrage?


Skydog32103 - 8/6/2019 at 05:15 PM

We should soundly reject any leader who chooses to use language that feeds into a climate of fear and hate.


BIGV - 8/6/2019 at 05:44 PM

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We should soundly reject any leader who chooses to use language that feeds into a climate of fear and hate.


Get out there and Vote!

Do us all a favor and Vote against Incumbent Congressmen and Women!


OriginalGoober - 8/7/2019 at 01:25 AM


Two shootings, both white, one right, one fringe left .
To fix this it needs help from both sides of the isle. Let go of 2016 election result and get to work!


2112 - 8/7/2019 at 01:57 AM

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Two shootings, both white, one right, one fringe left .
To fix this it needs help from both sides of the isle. Let go of 2016 election result and get to work!


I agree, but only one side has any interest in doing anything...and quite honestly there are many Democrats who also have no interest in doing anything. There are a lot of single issue voters out there, and gun rights is one of those single issues.


adhill58 - 8/7/2019 at 03:59 AM

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Two shootings, both white, one right, one fringe left .
To fix this it needs help from both sides of the isle. Let go of 2016 election result and get to work!


I agree, but only one side has any interest in doing anything...and quite honestly there are many Democrats who also have no interest in doing anything. There are a lot of single issue voters out there, and gun rights is one of those single issues.


There may be some Democrats not willing to go far enough, but please name all of the gun violence solutions that Republicans have attempted that have been blocked by Democrats. That's not how it works.


BIGV - 8/7/2019 at 04:15 AM

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Two shootings, both white, one right, one fringe left .
To fix this it needs help from both sides of the isle. Let go of 2016 election result and get to work!


I agree, but only one side has any interest in doing anything...and quite honestly there are many Democrats who also have no interest in doing anything. There are a lot of single issue voters out there, and gun rights is one of those single issues.


There may be some Democrats not willing to go far enough, but please name all of the gun violence solutions that Republicans have attempted that have been blocked by Democrats. That's not how it works.


On the surface it appears as though Democrats feel the "solution" will come with the "not being idle" that "doing something" has the effect of better than "doing nothing" and in this case "Doing something" always seems to evolve around legislation... The change has to be societal, the paradigm has to change and I feel it must start in the family framework...Discussion at the dinner table, whatever, but the answer is NOT more laws, just to give the impression that something is being done.


2112 - 8/7/2019 at 01:41 PM

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Two shootings, both white, one right, one fringe left .
To fix this it needs help from both sides of the isle. Let go of 2016 election result and get to work!


I agree, but only one side has any interest in doing anything...and quite honestly there are many Democrats who also have no interest in doing anything. There are a lot of single issue voters out there, and gun rights is one of those single issues.


There may be some Democrats not willing to go far enough, but please name all of the gun violence solutions that Republicans have attempted that have been blocked by Democrats. That's not how it works.


On the surface it appears as though Democrats feel the "solution" will come with the "not being idle" that "doing something" has the effect of better than "doing nothing" and in this case "Doing something" always seems to evolve around legislation... The change has to be societal, the paradigm has to change and I feel it must start in the family framework...Discussion at the dinner table, whatever, but the answer is NOT more laws, just to give the impression that something is being done.


Interesting that you seem to feel that Trump and the right's rhetoric has no affect on any of these mass shootings, yet discussions around the dinner table is the solution. Really? Pretty sure some of the discussions around the dinner table revolve around white supremacist ideas that lead to these shootings...although you have stated in many threads that being exposed to such environments does not lead to anything and every potential mass shooter shouldn't have been affected by toxic environments.


adhill58 - 8/7/2019 at 05:40 PM

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Two shootings, both white, one right, one fringe left .
To fix this it needs help from both sides of the isle. Let go of 2016 election result and get to work!


I agree, but only one side has any interest in doing anything...and quite honestly there are many Democrats who also have no interest in doing anything. There are a lot of single issue voters out there, and gun rights is one of those single issues.


There may be some Democrats not willing to go far enough, but please name all of the gun violence solutions that Republicans have attempted that have been blocked by Democrats. That's not how it works.


On the surface it appears as though Democrats feel the "solution" will come with the "not being idle" that "doing something" has the effect of better than "doing nothing" and in this case "Doing something" always seems to evolve around legislation... The change has to be societal, the paradigm has to change and I feel it must start in the family framework...Discussion at the dinner table, whatever, but the answer is NOT more laws, just to give the impression that something is being done.


You know there is a growing number of kids sitting at dinner tables with empty chairs because their parents were killed in mass shootings.


BIGV - 8/7/2019 at 05:58 PM

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Two shootings, both white, one right, one fringe left .
To fix this it needs help from both sides of the isle. Let go of 2016 election result and get to work!


I agree, but only one side has any interest in doing anything...and quite honestly there are many Democrats who also have no interest in doing anything. There are a lot of single issue voters out there, and gun rights is one of those single issues.


There may be some Democrats not willing to go far enough, but please name all of the gun violence solutions that Republicans have attempted that have been blocked by Democrats. That's not how it works.


On the surface it appears as though Democrats feel the "solution" will come with the "not being idle" that "doing something" has the effect of better than "doing nothing" and in this case "Doing something" always seems to evolve around legislation... The change has to be societal, the paradigm has to change and I feel it must start in the family framework...Discussion at the dinner table, whatever, but the answer is NOT more laws, just to give the impression that something is being done.


Interesting that you seem to feel that Trump and the right's rhetoric has no affect on any of these mass shootings, yet discussions around the dinner table is the solution. Really? Pretty sure some of the discussions around the dinner table revolve around white supremacist ideas that lead to these shootings...although you have stated in many threads that being exposed to such environments does not lead to anything and every potential mass shooter shouldn't have been affected by toxic environments.


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white supremacist ideas that lead to these shootings..


There you go!...Either racism, gender or white supremacy, the main liberal places to place the blame for almost everything.


Skydog32103 - 8/7/2019 at 06:15 PM

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There you go!...Either racism, gender or white supremacy, the main liberal places to place the blame for almost everything.


It would be nice to come to this page and read a thread that doesn’t include you crying about liberals and making it about yourself. Is this all you have to offer the site? Trolling? It shocks me that you haven’t been playpenned.

Are there any intelligent conservatives that are interested in discussion?


2112 - 8/7/2019 at 07:03 PM

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Two shootings, both white, one right, one fringe left .
To fix this it needs help from both sides of the isle. Let go of 2016 election result and get to work!


I agree, but only one side has any interest in doing anything...and quite honestly there are many Democrats who also have no interest in doing anything. There are a lot of single issue voters out there, and gun rights is one of those single issues.


There may be some Democrats not willing to go far enough, but please name all of the gun violence solutions that Republicans have attempted that have been blocked by Democrats. That's not how it works.


On the surface it appears as though Democrats feel the "solution" will come with the "not being idle" that "doing something" has the effect of better than "doing nothing" and in this case "Doing something" always seems to evolve around legislation... The change has to be societal, the paradigm has to change and I feel it must start in the family framework...Discussion at the dinner table, whatever, but the answer is NOT more laws, just to give the impression that something is being done.


Interesting that you seem to feel that Trump and the right's rhetoric has no affect on any of these mass shootings, yet discussions around the dinner table is the solution. Really? Pretty sure some of the discussions around the dinner table revolve around white supremacist ideas that lead to these shootings...although you have stated in many threads that being exposed to such environments does not lead to anything and every potential mass shooter shouldn't have been affected by toxic environments.


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white supremacist ideas that lead to these shootings..


There you go!...Either racism, gender or white supremacy, the main liberal places to place the blame for almost everything.


So are you denying that some of these mass shootings are related to white supremacists ideas? Because it certainly seems that many are, including El Paso. To think otherwise is clearly ignoring all available facts. Why do you continue to get triggered when someone points out that white supremacists exist and are a problem?


BIGV - 8/7/2019 at 07:13 PM

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Two shootings, both white, one right, one fringe left .
To fix this it needs help from both sides of the isle. Let go of 2016 election result and get to work!


I agree, but only one side has any interest in doing anything...and quite honestly there are many Democrats who also have no interest in doing anything. There are a lot of single issue voters out there, and gun rights is one of those single issues.


There may be some Democrats not willing to go far enough, but please name all of the gun violence solutions that Republicans have attempted that have been blocked by Democrats. That's not how it works.


On the surface it appears as though Democrats feel the "solution" will come with the "not being idle" that "doing something" has the effect of better than "doing nothing" and in this case "Doing something" always seems to evolve around legislation... The change has to be societal, the paradigm has to change and I feel it must start in the family framework...Discussion at the dinner table, whatever, but the answer is NOT more laws, just to give the impression that something is being done.


Interesting that you seem to feel that Trump and the right's rhetoric has no affect on any of these mass shootings, yet discussions around the dinner table is the solution. Really? Pretty sure some of the discussions around the dinner table revolve around white supremacist ideas that lead to these shootings...although you have stated in many threads that being exposed to such environments does not lead to anything and every potential mass shooter shouldn't have been affected by toxic environments.


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white supremacist ideas that lead to these shootings..


There you go!...Either racism, gender or white supremacy, the main liberal places to place the blame for almost everything.


So are you denying that some of these mass shootings are related to white supremacists ideas? Because it certainly seems that many are, including El Paso. To think otherwise is clearly ignoring all available facts. Why do you continue to get triggered when someone points out that white supremacists exist and are a problem?


Yet another leftist term "Triggered"...lol I refer to it as "responding"... "Facts"!...Too funny....


BIGV - 8/7/2019 at 07:17 PM

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There you go!...Either racism, gender or white supremacy, the main liberal places to place the blame for almost everything.


It would be nice to come to this page and read a thread that doesn’t include you crying about liberals and making it about yourself. Is this all you have to offer the site? Trolling? It shocks me that you haven’t been playpenned.

Are there any intelligent conservatives that are interested in discussion?


Please explain how it is different from reading about everything being Trump's fault?...and the constant Nazi referrals...You can dish it out but can't take it?

I'm just expressing an opinion that differs from yours and you're not used to it.


2112 - 8/7/2019 at 07:28 PM

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Two shootings, both white, one right, one fringe left .
To fix this it needs help from both sides of the isle. Let go of 2016 election result and get to work!


I agree, but only one side has any interest in doing anything...and quite honestly there are many Democrats who also have no interest in doing anything. There are a lot of single issue voters out there, and gun rights is one of those single issues.


There may be some Democrats not willing to go far enough, but please name all of the gun violence solutions that Republicans have attempted that have been blocked by Democrats. That's not how it works.


On the surface it appears as though Democrats feel the "solution" will come with the "not being idle" that "doing something" has the effect of better than "doing nothing" and in this case "Doing something" always seems to evolve around legislation... The change has to be societal, the paradigm has to change and I feel it must start in the family framework...Discussion at the dinner table, whatever, but the answer is NOT more laws, just to give the impression that something is being done.


Interesting that you seem to feel that Trump and the right's rhetoric has no affect on any of these mass shootings, yet discussions around the dinner table is the solution. Really? Pretty sure some of the discussions around the dinner table revolve around white supremacist ideas that lead to these shootings...although you have stated in many threads that being exposed to such environments does not lead to anything and every potential mass shooter shouldn't have been affected by toxic environments.


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white supremacist ideas that lead to these shootings..


There you go!...Either racism, gender or white supremacy, the main liberal places to place the blame for almost everything.


So are you denying that some of these mass shootings are related to white supremacists ideas? Because it certainly seems that many are, including El Paso. To think otherwise is clearly ignoring all available facts. Why do you continue to get triggered when someone points out that white supremacists exist and are a problem?


Yet another leftist term "Triggered"...lol I refer to it as "responding"... "Facts"!...Too funny....


Ok, use the word responding...but I don't see a response. Do you deny that some of these shootings are related to white supremacists ideas? Do you not think white supremacists are a problem in today's America?


BIGV - 8/7/2019 at 07:51 PM

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Two shootings, both white, one right, one fringe left .
To fix this it needs help from both sides of the isle. Let go of 2016 election result and get to work!


I agree, but only one side has any interest in doing anything...and quite honestly there are many Democrats who also have no interest in doing anything. There are a lot of single issue voters out there, and gun rights is one of those single issues.


There may be some Democrats not willing to go far enough, but please name all of the gun violence solutions that Republicans have attempted that have been blocked by Democrats. That's not how it works.


On the surface it appears as though Democrats feel the "solution" will come with the "not being idle" that "doing something" has the effect of better than "doing nothing" and in this case "Doing something" always seems to evolve around legislation... The change has to be societal, the paradigm has to change and I feel it must start in the family framework...Discussion at the dinner table, whatever, but the answer is NOT more laws, just to give the impression that something is being done.


Interesting that you seem to feel that Trump and the right's rhetoric has no affect on any of these mass shootings, yet discussions around the dinner table is the solution. Really? Pretty sure some of the discussions around the dinner table revolve around white supremacist ideas that lead to these shootings...although you have stated in many threads that being exposed to such environments does not lead to anything and every potential mass shooter shouldn't have been affected by toxic environments.


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white supremacist ideas that lead to these shootings..


There you go!...Either racism, gender or white supremacy, the main liberal places to place the blame for almost everything.


So are you denying that some of these mass shootings are related to white supremacists ideas? Because it certainly seems that many are, including El Paso. To think otherwise is clearly ignoring all available facts. Why do you continue to get triggered when someone points out that white supremacists exist and are a problem?


Yet another leftist term "Triggered"...lol I refer to it as "responding"... "Facts"!...Too funny....


Ok, use the word responding...but I don't see a response. Do you deny that some of these shootings are related to white supremacists ideas? Do you not think white supremacists are a problem in today's America?


You've labeled it as "White Supremacist" in nature or root; I abhor killing with any label, I am of the opinion that it has become all to easy for the media to attach a label to all things that don't fit the agenda. Speak up against AOC?..it's because she is a woman. Don't like Kamala Harris?..It's because she is a woman of color. Support President Trump?..You are a racist. Are you a Conservative?...You must be an old white guy. Think there's an issue at the border?..You hate brown people. IMHO. "White supremacy" is a media contrived terminology, so NO I don't feel it's a "Problem" any more than any other time some innocent sole loses their life due to violent crime...We have a "Problem" in Chicago where Black on Black Murder is absolutely a "problem"...When was the last time that issue was addressed here?....Every time someone in this country is shot down in cold blood it is a "problem"...We are all Americans, why the need to label everything?


Bhawk - 8/7/2019 at 08:39 PM

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"White supremacy" is a media contrived terminology


Is this a real thought typed by a lucid person?


MartinD28 - 8/7/2019 at 08:45 PM

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"White supremacy" is a media contrived terminology


Is this a real thought typed by a lucid person?


Bhawk,

Let me give you an idea where that might have come from; certainly very similar. FOX of course.

Tucker Carlson wrongly tells his viewers the country's white supremacy problem 'is a hoax'

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/07/media/tucker-carlson-white-supremacy-reliabl e-sources/index.html


Skydog32103 - 8/7/2019 at 09:05 PM

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Please explain how it is different from reading about everything being Trump's fault?...and the constant Nazi referrals


Before I answer, are you aware that you acknowledge to behave the same way as the people you hate? “How am i different from the liberals here?”......I guess I’ll take your word for it that you’re not.

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I'm just expressing an opinion that differs from yours and you're not used to it.


I’m responding to your childish and demented behavior, not your opinions.



BIGV - 8/7/2019 at 09:21 PM

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Before I answer, are you aware that you acknowledge to behave the same way as the people you hate?


While I express "Hatred" for no one and have never stated that, I am highly entertained by the hypocrisy... and yes I will acknowledge there is little difference between our behaviors, we both continue to point out what we see as faults in one another's political beliefs.


2112 - 8/7/2019 at 10:11 PM

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Two shootings, both white, one right, one fringe left .
To fix this it needs help from both sides of the isle. Let go of 2016 election result and get to work!


I agree, but only one side has any interest in doing anything...and quite honestly there are many Democrats who also have no interest in doing anything. There are a lot of single issue voters out there, and gun rights is one of those single issues.


There may be some Democrats not willing to go far enough, but please name all of the gun violence solutions that Republicans have attempted that have been blocked by Democrats. That's not how it works.


On the surface it appears as though Democrats feel the "solution" will come with the "not being idle" that "doing something" has the effect of better than "doing nothing" and in this case "Doing something" always seems to evolve around legislation... The change has to be societal, the paradigm has to change and I feel it must start in the family framework...Discussion at the dinner table, whatever, but the answer is NOT more laws, just to give the impression that something is being done.


Interesting that you seem to feel that Trump and the right's rhetoric has no affect on any of these mass shootings, yet discussions around the dinner table is the solution. Really? Pretty sure some of the discussions around the dinner table revolve around white supremacist ideas that lead to these shootings...although you have stated in many threads that being exposed to such environments does not lead to anything and every potential mass shooter shouldn't have been affected by toxic environments.


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white supremacist ideas that lead to these shootings..


There you go!...Either racism, gender or white supremacy, the main liberal places to place the blame for almost everything.


So are you denying that some of these mass shootings are related to white supremacists ideas? Because it certainly seems that many are, including El Paso. To think otherwise is clearly ignoring all available facts. Why do you continue to get triggered when someone points out that white supremacists exist and are a problem?


Yet another leftist term "Triggered"...lol I refer to it as "responding"... "Facts"!...Too funny....


Ok, use the word responding...but I don't see a response. Do you deny that some of these shootings are related to white supremacists ideas? Do you not think white supremacists are a problem in today's America?


You've labeled it as "White Supremacist" in nature or root; I abhor killing with any label, I am of the opinion that it has become all to easy for the media to attach a label to all things that don't fit the agenda. Speak up against AOC?..it's because she is a woman. Don't like Kamala Harris?..It's because she is a woman of color. Support President Trump?..You are a racist. Are you a Conservative?...You must be an old white guy. Think there's an issue at the border?..You hate brown people. IMHO. "White supremacy" is a media contrived terminology, so NO I don't feel it's a "Problem" any more than any other time some innocent sole loses their life due to violent crime...We have a "Problem" in Chicago where Black on Black Murder is absolutely a "problem"...When was the last time that issue was addressed here?....Every time someone in this country is shot down in cold blood it is a "problem"...We are all Americans, why the need to label everything?


Now we are all American? What about sending them back...never mind them actually being American? I really enjoy reading opinions from those with beliefs different from my own, as it helps me understand others...even if I don't agree with them. But to call "white supremacy" a media derived label and stating it is not a problem is beyond my comprehension. I guess the KKK are just a misunderstood group who like to get together for friendly games of cards and wear white just because it's fashionable.


BIGV - 8/7/2019 at 10:18 PM

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What about sending them back...


Don't agree with that at all

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But to call "white supremacy" a media derived label and stating it is not a problem is beyond my comprehension. I guess the KKK are just a misunderstood group who like to get together for friendly games of cards and wear white just because it's fashionable.


I don't elevate these issues to the top of the Calendar like the left loves to do. What % of the population would you say is "White supremacist"?...


OriginalGoober - 8/7/2019 at 11:05 PM

Every, single MAGA-hat wearing, Trump supporting, white person is a white supremacist thanks to the democratic party and main stream media news outlets.


Skydog32103 - 8/7/2019 at 11:42 PM

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Every, single MAGA-hat wearing, Trump supporting, white person is a white supremacist thanks to the democratic party and main stream media news outlets.


Agreed. And this is why Hillary lost, because of the deplorables comment. And it’s true that the Democrats are running the risk of making the same mistake again. There are segments of our population that have valid reasons to support him. I just don’t think the upper class privileged folks are among them.


Jerry - 8/7/2019 at 11:44 PM

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Every, single MAGA-hat wearing, Trump supporting, white person is a white supremacist thanks to the democratic party and main stream media news outlets.


Or, at least the major newshacks want to label them that way, and the Dems gp WETSU on it.

Good observance Goob.


BIGV - 8/7/2019 at 11:50 PM

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Every, single MAGA-hat wearing, Trump supporting, white person is a white supremacist thanks to the democratic party and main stream media news outlets.


Agreed.


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But to call "white supremacy" a media derived label and stating it is not a problem is beyond my comprehension.


?


BrerRabbit - 8/8/2019 at 05:41 PM

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What % of the population would you say is "White supremacist"?...


Cant give numbers but it is huge in the Pacific Northwest. Huge. It is normal here. In the rural you dont like it you gotta just keep your mouth shut about it. Oregon was founded as a Whites Only territory, had actual laws barring blacks and Asians from owning property. The only thing keeping the PNW blue is the urban liberal. Good god and that is just OR and WA, try Idaho!

I am from Arizona - same deal White Supremacy is the norm there too - when you get to know the state you realize the pockets of tolerance isolated to parts of Phoenix and Tucson, lalalands of imported CA and NY liberalism like Flagstaff Sedona Prescott. Nope get out to Kingman, Globe,Verde Valley, CORNVILLE is basically a Nazi colony, holy crap, Dewey, Prescott Valley, unreal man they are venom dripping White Supremacy rattlesnakes make you look like a blue-assed California pansy for even thinking they aren't there. Actual swastika iron cross nazis. I worked all over the real rural AZ, that is the word man: You think you are conservative nothing you are closer to the left you despise than you are to those you cant see.

[Edited on 8/8/2019 by BrerRabbit]


adhill58 - 8/9/2019 at 12:36 PM

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What % of the population would you say is "White supremacist"?...


Cant give numbers but it is huge in the Pacific Northwest. Huge. It is normal here. In the rural you dont like it you gotta just keep your mouth shut about it. Oregon was founded as a Whites Only territory, had actual laws barring blacks and Asians from owning property. The only thing keeping the PNW blue is the urban liberal. Good god and that is just OR and WA, try Idaho!

I am from Arizona - same deal White Supremacy is the norm there too - when you get to know the state you realize the pockets of tolerance isolated to parts of Phoenix and Tucson, lalalands of imported CA and NY liberalism like Flagstaff Sedona Prescott. Nope get out to Kingman, Globe,Verde Valley, CORNVILLE is basically a Nazi colony, holy crap, Dewey, Prescott Valley, unreal man they are venom dripping White Supremacy rattlesnakes make you look like a blue-assed California pansy for even thinking they aren't there. Actual swastika iron cross nazis. I worked all over the real rural AZ, that is the word man: You think you are conservative nothing you are closer to the left you despise than you are to those you cant see.

[Edited on 8/8/2019 by BrerRabbit]


Just watched a PBS doc about the a$$holes that went to Charlottesville two years ago. It really did not look like something that was media-contrived. Americans who carry around Nazi flags? Whatever their numbers are, their abject stupidity makes them very dangerous.


adhill58 - 8/9/2019 at 01:09 PM

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Every, single MAGA-hat wearing, Trump supporting, white person is a white supremacist thanks to the democratic party and main stream media news outlets.


Or, at least the major newshacks want to label them that way, and the Dems gp WETSU on it.

Good observance Goob.




I have said on here before that not all Trump supporters / Republicans / Conservatives are racists. I feel that many who are not racist may not be bothered by racism like they should be because they believe it does not affect them. That is unfortunate because it allows racism to remain and fester in our society.

What is troubling for me is the fact that the president of the United States seems to be keenly aware that racists are part of his coalition. He rarely disavows racists, and when he does, it is in a prepared statement like what he said on Monday. The white supremacist groups who believe they have his backing then dismiss the rebuke as something he was "forced" to say by others. The president should be able to say, "If you're a racist, I don't want your vote." He knows that would be really risky for him, so he doesn't do it.


adhill58 - 8/9/2019 at 08:18 PM

Anyone see the photo of Trump and wife with the baby whose parents were killed in El Paso? ...Both smiling, Trump giving the thumbs-up ...What is wrong with these people? ...Also, was posing for smiling photos with Dayton hospital staff... Any Trump defenders have any explanation for this?

Major sicko.


MartinD28 - 8/9/2019 at 08:57 PM

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Anyone see the photo of Trump and wife with the baby whose parents were killed in El Paso? ...Both smiling, Trump giving the thumbs-up ...What is wrong with these people? ...Also, was posing for smiling photos with Dayton hospital staff... Any Trump defenders have any explanation for this?

Major sicko.


Everything about Trump and his behavior is about Trump. Talks about crowd size from a rally in El Paso even when he's in a hospital. You can't find a more compassionate leader

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/08/08/trump-brags-about-crowd-size -during-el-paso-hospital-visit-nr-bts-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/this-week-in- politics/


StratDal - 8/10/2019 at 02:45 AM

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Anyone see the photo of Trump and wife with the baby whose parents were killed in El Paso? ...Both smiling, Trump giving the thumbs-up ...What is wrong with these people? ...Also, was posing for smiling photos with Dayton hospital staff... Any Trump defenders have any explanation for this?

Major sicko.


Sadly, many citizens still love/believe him. America baby...


BrerRabbit - 8/11/2019 at 04:10 PM

For sure weird photo - decided against posting it, too disturbing.


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