Thread: Raise your hand if you want to "Send Her Back".

adhill58 - 7/18/2019 at 08:26 PM


Any right-wingers going to defend this crap? Are you satisfied with hundreds of morons "standing up to socialism" by being racist in public?

Also, if it's not racist, and only about policy, why has this not been directed at Bernie Sanders at this level since 2016?

The excuse that people are just sick of being called racist for no reason really has some holes in it at this point. To be a Trump supporter, you don't have to be a racist yourself, but you aren't really bothered by racism. At least some of them "came out" publicly at the North Carolina rally, and they won't have to be "closeted" anymore.

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MartinD28 - 7/18/2019 at 09:34 PM

He says he's the least racist person, and we should take him at his word because that's who honest Don is. He acted like a carnival barker at his rally last night baiting the audience. Today he tried to "somewhat" distance himself...yeah...right Donald.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-raci st.html


pops42 - 7/18/2019 at 09:47 PM

Dog whistle for his racist scumbag base.


Chain - 7/18/2019 at 10:59 PM

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Any right-wingers going to defend this crap? Are you satisfied with hundreds of morons "standing up to socialism" by being racist in public?

Also, if it's not racist, and only about policy, why has this not been directed at Bernie Sanders at this level since 2016?

The excuse that people are just sick of being called racist for no reason really has some holes in it at this point. To be a Trump supporter, you don't have to be a racist yourself, but you aren't really bothered by racism. At least some of them "came out" publicly at the North Carolina rally, and they won't have to be "closeted" anymore.

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I wonder if they feel the same way about Melania Trump given, er, well, she's not American?


BrerRabbit - 7/18/2019 at 11:19 PM

Where they gonna send her back to? Mattel?


OriginalGoober - 7/19/2019 at 01:43 AM

On the content of her character, absoulutely . I dont think this has nothing to do with skin color, but its right for the Pres to ask that it be toned down.

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2112 - 7/19/2019 at 10:55 AM

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On the content of her character, absoulutely . I dont think this has nothing to do with skin color, but its right for the Pres to ask that it be toned down.

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What part of their character was so bad that a US born citizen should be deported? Maybe if they grabbed a woman by the pu**y or if they walked into a locker room full of naked underaged beauty contest girls I could see it. Or maybe if they had sex with a porn star and illegally paid hush money to cover it up. Or maybe if they used their personal charity as an illegal slush fund I could see it. But they didn't do any of these things. So please do tell us what character content do they have that a US born citizen deserves to be sent back to where they came? And what exactly should they tone down? Has Trump toned ANYTHING down ever?


crazyjoe - 7/19/2019 at 12:52 PM

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On the content of her character, absoulutely . I dont think this has nothing to do with skin color, but its right for the Pres to ask that it be toned down.

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They are women of bad character because they refuse to kiss Trump's fat stupid ass?.............joe


adhill58 - 7/19/2019 at 12:59 PM

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On the content of her character, absoulutely . I dont think this has nothing to do with skin color, but its right for the Pres to ask that it be toned down.

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I really don't think character of much concern to the right-wingers. They are proud to rally behind a failed casino operator who wanted to see his name in the gossip pages of New York tabloids so badly that he would call in claiming to be "John Barron" to brag about his marriage infidelity. Also, he has clearly been a racist for a long time. Also, everything else about him shows nothing but a complete lack of any kind of positive character trait.

They entire argument from the right in 2016 was that character did not matter, they wanted someone who would finally refuse to tone it down.

Funny how Trump is the exception to needing to be capable of human decency. He gets praised for it, but the black lady needs to tone it down... that is racism... duh.


porkchopbob - 7/19/2019 at 01:58 PM

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On the content of her character, absoulutely . I dont think this has nothing to do with skin color, but its right for the Pres to ask that it be toned down.

By this "logic" Trump should have left the country 8 years ago when he was constantly belligerently whining about the President with personal attacks. You can't tell citizens who are actively participating in civic government in order to address issues they have to "leave", then tell asylum-seekers from Syria to stay there and fix their own country. And if you assume women of color aren't from HERE, you're ignorant at best, unless of course there is a history of racist remarks...


Skydog32103 - 7/19/2019 at 02:24 PM

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On the content of her character, absoulutely . I dont think this has nothing to do with skin color, but its right for the Pres to ask that it be toned down.


fine. then on the content of Trumpís character this week, and every other week, and in Helsinki, he should step down, unless you a are a huge cowering puss that only goes after the smaller weaker groups. trump supporters are the worst type of cowards who are terrified to stand up to certain folks in real life so they hired a goon to do it for them. meanwhile the most powerful person in the world abuses his power daily and yíall cower in fear at the thought of standing up to someone your own size. Yíall sacrificed the entire future of the GOP for a quick high. Tragic. If a trump fan saw an old lady being mugged theyíd pretend they donít see it happening.



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crazyjoe - 7/19/2019 at 02:56 PM

This Lil tid bit popped up and I really thought it showed just a fraction of the challenges that face these ground breaking women, in this case Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez faced shamefully bigoted behavior and sexual abuse with courage, determination and eloquence, unfortunate we subject each other to such treatment!...........Peace......joe

AOC grills Kevin McAleenan on Border Patrol agents' 'rape memes'
https://nypost.com/2019/07/18/aoc-grills-acting-homeland-security-chief-abo ut-rape-memes-she-appears-in/

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adhill58 - 7/19/2019 at 06:50 PM

It is almost like the Trump rallies are a kind of "Racist Liberation Movement". These losers have had to spend most of their lives hiding the fact that they are members of the most ignorant segment of society. Now they can make pilgrimages to congregations of thousands of fools who, at the very least, show indifference to their hatred and stupidity. These rallies are like racist "Pride Parades". [I realize that this is an imperfect comparison and in no way mean to imply that the way that homosexual people had to hide from society in the past was acceptable, but unfortunately that is what they had to do to protect themselves.]

Imagine how pathetic your life has to be if racism is how you manage to feel a shred of self-worth.

Imagine the kind of scumbag who would promote and celebrate this most shameful of human behavior and attempt to use it to further his own political ambition.


2112 - 7/19/2019 at 07:36 PM

In the past, far too many people have been called racists for disapproving of Obama. It was unfair and I understand some people's frustration with being called racist when they aren't.

But I don't see how anyone can justify this. American citizens who were born here being told to go back to where they came from. For those that say it wasn't the color of their skin but rather their socialist policies, then why didn't Trump tell Bernie Sanders to go back to where he can from? The answer is obvious, and if you are defending him and saying it was not racist, then I'll have to assume you would still defend Trump and say he wasn't racist if he gave the State of the Union address while wearing a white sheet and pointy hat.

If you are ok with the president being a racist for whatever reason, fine. But trying to defend him just makes you look stupid. Own up to it.


Jerry - 7/19/2019 at 10:36 PM

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Dog whistle for his racist scumbag base.


Doesn't that hurt your ears?


Jerry - 7/19/2019 at 10:45 PM

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Where they gonna send her back to? Mattel?


I would send her back where her family was from for a short period of time. Let her learn why her family became
refugees and came to the US, and why the American right to free speech is so important. Let her sound off at the conditions there and blame those in power. She would be return quickly with a new respect for the country.

Also, all involved need to learn there are consequences for speaking radically.


BrerRabbit - 7/20/2019 at 01:45 AM

With the Mattel, I was referring to Stepford Melania.


adhill58 - 7/20/2019 at 02:17 AM

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Where they gonna send her back to? Mattel?


I would send her back where her family was from for a short period of time. Let her learn why her family became
refugees and came to the US, and why the American right to free speech is so important. Let her sound off at the conditions there and blame those in power. She would be return quickly with a new respect for the country.

Also, all involved need to learn there are consequences for speaking radically.


As noted, the post you quoted was referencing Melania Trump... I assume you are talking about Ilhan Omar.

First of all, she was alive when her family fled Somalia, so I think it is highly likely that she knows exactly why they needed to leave. Secondly, it is, at the very least, quite condescending (maybe racist) to imply that she somehow wouldn't, couldn't, or doesn't understand the circumstances of her family's departure from their homeland. Lastly, I have never heard Ms. Omar suggest that she is unhappy with the freedoms that America affords people. She, as an elected official, has policy suggestions. If she can't win people over to her side of the debate, her suggestions will never become policy.

Did you suggest the same for any immigrant who becomes an American citizen and then becomes involved in politics, or just the ones from Africa? Henry Kissinger? Arnold Schwarzenegger? Madeleine Albright?

If you believe "the American right to free speech is so important", why does a member of congress using said right piss anyone off?

Also, what are the consequences of "speaking radically" in a country with freedom of speech? Deportation? Or just some racist punk who happens to be president being pissed and and complaining to crowds of other racists about you?


Jerry - 7/20/2019 at 01:59 PM

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Where they gonna send her back to? Mattel?


I would send her back where her family was from for a short period of time. Let her learn why her family became
refugees and came to the US, and why the American right to free speech is so important. Let her sound off at the conditions there and blame those in power. She would be return quickly with a new respect for the country.

Also, all involved need to learn there are consequences for speaking radically.


As noted, the post you quoted was referencing Melania Trump... I assume you are talking about Ilhan Omar.

First of all, she was alive when her family fled Somalia, so I think it is highly likely that she knows exactly why they needed to leave. Secondly, it is, at the very least, quite condescending (maybe racist) to imply that she somehow wouldn't, couldn't, or doesn't understand the circumstances of her family's departure from their homeland. Lastly, I have never heard Ms. Omar suggest that she is unhappy with the freedoms that America affords people. She, as an elected official, has policy suggestions. If she can't win people over to her side of the debate, her suggestions will never become policy.

Did you suggest the same for any immigrant who becomes an American citizen and then becomes involved in politics, or just the ones from Africa? Henry Kissinger? Arnold Schwarzenegger? Madeleine Albright?

If you believe "the American right to free speech is so important", why does a member of congress using said right piss anyone off?

Also, what are the consequences of "speaking radically" in a country with freedom of speech? Deportation? Or just some racist punk who happens to be president being pissed and and complaining to crowds of other racists about you?



Yes, i was posting about Ilhan Omar. You noted that your post was about Melania Trump after my post was made. Matter of fact almost exactly 3 hours after my post.
1) So it's racist to think that a child of 4 years old would know why her family was leaving their home to live in a refugee camp? Did you know what was going on when you were 4 years old?
2) Your reading comprehension must be one of your lowest priorities. Read again about why I think she needs to understand why our free speech is so important.
3) Again, reading comprehensively. Let her try our freedom of speech in Somalia and see where it gets her.
4) Man, you really need to learn to read through a post before responding (kneejerk response possibly). Did you read the part "Also, ALL INVOLVED need to learn there are consequences for speaking radically." Think on that for a moment. Did I point out any one person, or did I point out ALL INVOLVED in the exchange?
5) Are you a racist since you just don't seem to like people of Scottish heritage.

You also need to get some facts about the people you post about. Check their biographies, you know, like, date of birth, when they left Somalia, how long they were in a refugee camp, when they migrated to the US, when they applied for citizenship, things like that.


Skydog32103 - 7/20/2019 at 02:13 PM

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Also, all involved need to learn there are consequences for speaking radically.


Yes, and nobody will know this more than the Republicans after Trump is gone. You can tell a woman to go back but canít stand up to Trump. Where is your manhood?


Jerry - 7/20/2019 at 02:25 PM

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Also, all involved need to learn there are consequences for speaking radically.


Yes, and nobody will know this more than the Republicans after Trump is gone. You can tell a woman to go back but canít stand up to Trump. Where is your manhood?




Mine is right where it is supposed to be, and why are you asking?


Skydog32103 - 7/20/2019 at 03:25 PM

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Mine is right where it is supposed to be


They are both behaving the same but you only have the balls to go after the woman, while remaining silent like a bitch when the stronger male does it. Coward.


Jerry - 7/20/2019 at 03:39 PM

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Mine is right where it is supposed to be


They are both behaving the same but you only have the balls to go after the woman, while remaining silent like a bitch when the stronger male does it. Coward.


Mad about how you got schooled a little while ago, or is it that you still don't have an inkling about what I posted since you don't have very good reading comprehension?

So you admit that she is a race baiting, knee jerk, radical content posting dweeb?


Skydog32103 - 7/20/2019 at 04:17 PM

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Mad about how you got schooled a little while ago, or is it that you still don't have an inkling about what I posted since you don't have very good reading comprehension?

So you admit that she is a race baiting, knee jerk, radical content posting dweeb?


Keep going after the girl ya big puss.


2112 - 7/20/2019 at 04:18 PM

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Mine is right where it is supposed to be


They are both behaving the same but you only have the balls to go after the woman, while remaining silent like a bitch when the stronger male does it. Coward.


Mad about how you got schooled a little while ago, or is it that you still don't have an inkling about what I posted since you don't have very good reading comprehension?

So you admit that she is a race baiting, knee jerk, radical content posting dweeb?


Well, we all know Trump is a racist, knee jerk, radical content posting moron. Seems like his base loves him that way. The rational free thinking part of the world become more and more horrorified with every Trump tweet.


Jerry - 7/20/2019 at 06:21 PM

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Mad about how you got schooled a little while ago, or is it that you still don't have an inkling about what I posted since you don't have very good reading comprehension?

So you admit that she is a race baiting, knee jerk, radical content posting dweeb?


Keep going after the girl ya big puss.


Still no grasp on that reading comprehension, huh?

You're the one that said she was.
Your Quote: "They are both behaving the same"

Think on it.


BIGV - 7/20/2019 at 06:27 PM

I find it interesting that constituents of these four are so easily swayed by ideologies with little basis in existing American culture and values. Somalia? Seriously? Raise your hand if you, with your educational background, could vote for someone espousing thoughts Germaine to their country of origin. This has ZERO to do with their being women and everything to do with the ignorant people who voted for them.


BrerRabbit - 7/20/2019 at 07:47 PM

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Yes, i was posting about Ilhan Omar. You noted that your post was about Melania Trump after my post was made. Matter of fact almost exactly 3 hours after my post.
1) So it's racist to think that a child of 4 years old would know why her family was leaving their home to live in a refugee camp? Did you know what was going on when you were 4 years old?
2) Your reading comprehension must be one of your lowest priorities. Read again about why I think she needs to understand why our free speech is so important.
3) Again, reading comprehensively. Let her try our freedom of speech in Somalia and see where it gets her.
4) Man, you really need to learn to read through a post before responding (kneejerk response possibly). Did you read the part "Also, ALL INVOLVED need to learn there are consequences for speaking radically." Think on that for a moment. Did I point out any one person, or did I point out ALL INVOLVED in the exchange?
5) Are you a racist since you just don't seem to like people of Scottish heritage.

You also need to get some facts about the people you post about. Check their biographies, you know, like, date of birth, when they left Somalia, how long they were in a refugee camp, when they migrated to the US, when they applied for citizenship, things like that.


You are replying to the wrong person. I assume you are talking to me since you wrote "You noted that your post was about Melania Trump" Somewhere around here I said I DID NOT think the President's tweets were racist. Stupid and sociopathic, yes, racist no. So maybe back off on the reading comprehension and knee jerk stuff? Looks like you needed the spectacles and jumped the gun, to me.

Also, I have a lot of Scottish, MacGillivray, dead at Culloden fighting British imperial slime like Trump. My folks were in Jamestown 1621, Stouts, direct descendant of a member of Washington's cabinet, Oregon Trail, both sides of Civil War, on and on, proud American.

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Bhawk - 7/20/2019 at 07:56 PM

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I find it interesting that constituents of these four are so easily swayed by ideologies with little basis in existing American culture and values. Somalia? Seriously? Raise your hand if you, with your educational background, could vote for someone espousing thoughts Germaine to their country of origin. This has ZERO to do with their being women and everything to do with the ignorant people who voted for them.


Do you see yourself as the only authority on American culture and values? If so, what have those four done to directly threaten the culture and values?

Or, are you surprised to find that there are other views, or something?


porkchopbob - 7/20/2019 at 09:15 PM

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I find it interesting that constituents of these four are so easily swayed by ideologies with little basis in existing American culture and values. Somalia? Seriously? Raise your hand if you, with your educational background, could vote for someone espousing thoughts Germaine to their country of origin. This has ZERO to do with their being women and everything to do with the ignorant people who voted for them.


Whatever assumptions you are making about Somalia, realize that her family left Somalia to escape war. Do you think German Jews agreed with the ideologies of German Nazis? Or Polish Jews with Stalin and the Soviets? Or victims in Rwanda and their warring governments? Or Italians and Mussolini? By your logic, you lump everyone within the same borders together when often these people are victims of their own government's ideologies. And you're only addressing one of the four women of color he called out.

This has everything to do with ignorant people who are prejudiced against people they haven't bothered to learn anything about beyond what they think they see at face value. And there's a word for it. And these ignorant people voted for Trump.



porkchopbob - 7/20/2019 at 09:25 PM

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....thoughts Germaine to their......

"germane"


2112 - 7/20/2019 at 09:45 PM

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Where they gonna send her back to? Mattel?


I would send her back where her family was from for a short period of time. Let her learn why her family became
refugees and came to the US, and why the American right to free speech is so important. Let her sound off at the conditions there and blame those in power. She would be return quickly with a new respect for the country.

Also, all involved need to learn there are consequences for speaking radically.


I still can't wrap my head around this way of thinking. Last time I read the constitution I don't remember anything about their being different classes of US citizens. Other than the ability of running for president, every citizen has the same rights. She is just as much a US citizen as you. She is just as American as you. Why don't you go back to where your family came from? Seriously, leave! America is a great melting pot. If you can't accept that, then America isn't for you. Unless you are native American or brought over as a slave, you are a decendent of immigrants. The Constitution gives no more rights to be here if your family came over 200 years ago or 20 years ago. Don't like it, then go somewhere else. America is for Americans...regardless of where that American's family originally came from. If you can't accept that, then there is a word for people like that...and you can probably figure out that word.


porkchopbob - 7/20/2019 at 10:04 PM

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I would send her back where her family was from for a short period of time. Let her learn why her family became
refugees and came to the US, and why the American right to free speech is so important. Let her sound off at the conditions there and blame those in power. She would be return quickly with a new respect for the country.

Also, all involved need to learn there are consequences for speaking radically.


This is disgustingly patronizing. I'm sure Omar recalls her family's flight from Somalia as a child, and to several other countries before landing in Virginia and then Minnesota. No doubt, she would be happy to teach you about it and explain that Trump's Administration attempts to see to it that refugees such as her are not welcome today. It is that respect, which you are ignorant of, that causes her to fight for her country


MartinD28 - 7/20/2019 at 11:20 PM

I doubt Trump would act this way and show bigotry if those immigrants were coming from Scandinavian countries. He even said that he prefers those from Norway over those from $hithole countries. Those are bragging words from Big Donald.

And we've all seen him him on the world stage basically drinking a white Russian.


Jerry - 7/21/2019 at 12:14 AM

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I would send her back where her family was from for a short period of time. Let her learn why her family became
refugees and came to the US, and why the American right to free speech is so important. Let her sound off at the conditions there and blame those in power. She would be return quickly with a new respect for the country.

Also, all involved need to learn there are consequences for speaking radically.


This is disgustingly patronizing. I'm sure Omar recalls her family's flight from Somalia as a child, and to several other countries before landing in Virginia and then Minnesota. No doubt, she would be happy to teach you about it and explain that Trump's Administration attempts to see to it that refugees such as her are not welcome today. It is that respect, which you are ignorant of, that causes her to fight for her country


I'd be glad to sit down and talk with her, as long as she is willing to discuss rather than rant. Also PorkChob, do you remember what was going on around you at 4 years of age. I doubt anyone really remembers anything going on when they are at that age, they just remember second hand knowledge.

Which country is she fighting for? US or Somalia? It's fine if she supports efforts to end the fighting, famine, and desecration of the Somali people.

As a US Rep, she would have the backing to ask questions-pointed questions-as to why there are still reasons for Somali citizens to feel the need to leave their country. Possibly able to add to sanctions and embargoes, Never know until she does go back and ask those questions, will we?


Skydog32103 - 7/21/2019 at 01:00 AM

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Never know until she does go back and ask those questions, will we?




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Jerry - 7/21/2019 at 04:49 AM

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Never know until she does go back and ask those questions, will we?


Ignorant fool. Get an education already.


Your reading comprehension is still atrocious, or do you just like to knee jerk post to see if you can get a reaction?
I think you need to go back to third grade, or find a third grade teacher to tutor you in comprehensive reading.
You used to be, or seemed to be one of the more intelligent posters here, but now I'm having to re-think my assessment of your intelligence.
Might be you are like me and have an injury and are posting under the "cloud of Morpheus" once in a while. Could be you have a problem at home and are taking out your frustrations on other posters. could be that you need help with mental issues.
I don't know if any of this is a problem for you since it is nothing of my business, but I do wonder what has happened to you.

Question: did you read the entire post before you responded?


Bhawk - 7/21/2019 at 03:14 PM

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Never know until she does go back and ask those questions, will we?


Ignorant fool. Get an education already.


Your reading comprehension is still atrocious, or do you just like to knee jerk post to see if you can get a reaction?
I think you need to go back to third grade, or find a third grade teacher to tutor you in comprehensive reading.
You used to be, or seemed to be one of the more intelligent posters here, but now I'm having to re-think my assessment of your intelligence.
Might be you are like me and have an injury and are posting under the "cloud of Morpheus" once in a while. Could be you have a problem at home and are taking out your frustrations on other posters. could be that you need help with mental issues.
I don't know if any of this is a problem for you since it is nothing of my business, but I do wonder what has happened to you.

Question: did you read the entire post before you responded?


Your personal attacks here seem sorta Hitlerian. I just read that somewhere.


porkchopbob - 7/21/2019 at 03:29 PM

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Also PorkChob, do you remember what was going on around you at 4 years of age. I doubt anyone really remembers anything going on when they are at that age, they just remember second hand knowledge.

How could one forget? My father-in-law's family was kicked out of Egypt when he was young, he has not forgotten decades later. Bill Graham was young when he fled Europe, it was something he never forgot.

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Which country is she fighting for? US or Somalia?

That you think to ask is kind of the problem and reveals your ignorant prejudice. You can't have it both ways, either she doesn't remember fleeing war and grew up as a proud American, or she remembers the horrors of her youth fleeing her country.


BrerRabbit - 7/21/2019 at 05:01 PM

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You used to be, or seemed to be one of the more intelligent posters here, but now I'm having to re-think my assessment of your intelligence.


Jerry it seems you still might have me mistaken for another poster, ever since I posted about Melania Trump. I haven't really been part of this argument


adhill58 - 7/21/2019 at 07:21 PM

Okay, I think Jerry was directing some his retorts to me, and the reason I did not respond as quickly as he wanted was that I have been away from home visiting my wife's 98-year-old grandmother for the weekend... not because I felt "schooled".

Jerry, all the Melania Trump references were in posts before your initial post - the ones after were trying to help you "get" the "Mattel" joke, so get off of the reading comprehension soapbox.

And yes, I agree with the poster who said that it is disgustingly patronizing to infer That Ilhan Omar does not understand why her family left Somalia, today as an adult, whether or not she had a full grasp of it when she was a child. You don't think that she would want to know and understand? Why would she be incapable of knowing these things?

Also, when has she said, "This is how things are done in Somalia, so that's how they should be done in America."? Come on, man... you're taking the bait form Trump a little too easily.

Look, Trump just can't resist the fight when it is against a person that checks all the boxes of what the racist chunk of his base would hate the most: non-white, non-male, non-christian, non-native, etc.

And... what do you think the consequences of "speaking radically" are? You never answered that one.


Skydog32103 - 7/21/2019 at 09:02 PM

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Your reading comprehension is still atrocious, or do you just like to knee jerk post to see if you can get a reaction?
I think you need to go back to third grade, or find a third grade teacher to tutor you in comprehensive reading.
You used to be, or seemed to be one of the more intelligent posters here, but now I'm having to re-think my assessment of your intelligence.
Might be you are like me and have an injury and are posting under the "cloud of Morpheus" once in a while. Could be you have a problem at home and are taking out your frustrations on other posters. could be that you need help with mental issues.
I don't know if any of this is a problem for you since it is nothing of my business, but I do wonder what has happened to you.

Question: did you read the entire post before you responded?


Yes. Sounds like you donít like Trumpís style of communication when directed at you. Thatís the problem with Trump supporters - they love his style until it comes back at them. Then they melt.



[Edited on 7/21/2019 by Skydog32103]


Skydog32103 - 7/21/2019 at 10:48 PM

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Your reading comprehension is still atrocious, or do you just like to knee jerk post to see if you can get a reaction?
I think you need to go back to third grade, or find a third grade teacher to tutor you in comprehensive reading.
You used to be, or seemed to be one of the more intelligent posters here, but now I'm having to re-think my assessment of your intelligence.
Might be you are like me and have an injury and are posting under the "cloud of Morpheus" once in a while. Could be you have a problem at home and are taking out your frustrations on other posters. could be that you need help with mental issues.
I don't know if any of this is a problem for you since it is nothing of my business, but I do wonder what has happened to you.

Question: did you read the entire post before you responded?


My apologies for the personal insults. I went over the line. it just burns me up to see the president of the united states verbally abuse american women, who by nature are in a weaker position than he is (as is everyone). it saddens me that our country has come to this. look at the character of every president who has come before him and compare it to what we see and hear from him on a daily basis. it's simply a huge black eye on united states history. and it saddens me to see all the cowards in our country play the scapegoat game and hire him to do their dirty deeds. even the most conservative business owners i know wouldn't allow behavior like his in their place of business. they'd be fired and thrown out immediately...yet somehow it's acceptable for president of the united states. when pressed for an explanation, they cry obama this, obama that, as if they are somehow comparable. he's convinced conservatives that its ok for the president to behave like a court jester because a court jester made fun of him. "the court jester did it so why can't i?" and it seems like half the country says "yeah!! if rappers can do it then why can't Trump?" obama was so bad that the right needed to hire a thug to beat up Democrats? the end result is a president who has consistently attacked and abused countless americans and countless american institutions for about 4 years straight now.

the only reason people like trump is because he abuses people that they also don't like nothing more nothing less. policy my a$$. if a trump supporter would for once show some stinkin sincerity and honesty instead of disguising their message in code, like cowards, maybe they'd get an ounce of respect from the other side.


[Edited on 7/21/2019 by Skydog32103]


Jerry - 7/22/2019 at 04:02 PM

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quote:
You used to be, or seemed to be one of the more intelligent posters here, but now I'm having to re-think my assessment of your intelligence.


Jerry it seems you still might have me mistaken for another poster, ever since I posted about Melania Trump. I haven't really been part of this argument


I was responding to Skydog.


Jerry - 7/22/2019 at 04:05 PM

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quote:
Also PorkChob, do you remember what was going on around you at 4 years of age. I doubt anyone really remembers anything going on when they are at that age, they just remember second hand knowledge.

How could one forget? My father-in-law's family was kicked out of Egypt when he was young, he has not forgotten decades later. Bill Graham was young when he fled Europe, it was something he never forgot.

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Which country is she fighting for? US or Somalia?

That you think to ask is kind of the problem and reveals your ignorant prejudice. You can't have it both ways, either she doesn't remember fleeing war and grew up as a proud American, or she remembers the horrors of her youth fleeing her country.


how old were they when they left their home lands?

As for the second part. you obviously didn't read what was posted.


porkchopbob - 7/22/2019 at 04:24 PM

quote:
how old were they when they left their home lands?


Here's the problem, no one wants to do their own home work any more. If you were actually curious and hadn't formed a prejudiced opinion, you would look this up yourself.


leafsfan - 7/22/2019 at 04:27 PM

Sometime in the spring I watched a documentary on the rise of Mussolini. The similarities are scary.


Jerry - 7/22/2019 at 04:32 PM

{Quoted from adhill post of 7/21/19 at 2:21 pm}

quote:
Okay, I think Jerry was directing some his retorts to me, and the reason I did not respond as quickly as he wanted was that I have been away from home visiting my wife's 98-year-old grandmother for the weekend... not because I felt "schooled".

Jerry, all the Melania Trump references were in posts before your initial post - the ones after were trying to help you "get" the "Mattel" joke, so get off of the reading comprehension soapbox.

And yes, I agree with the poster who said that it is disgustingly patronizing to infer That Ilhan Omar does not understand why her family left Somalia, today as an adult, whether or not she had a full grasp of it when she was a child. You don't think that she would want to know and understand? Why would she be incapable of knowing these things?

Also, when has she said, "This is how things are done in Somalia, so that's how they should be done in America."? Come on, man... you're taking the bait form Trump a little too easily.

Look, Trump just can't resist the fight when it is against a person that checks all the boxes of what the racist chunk of his base would hate the most: non-white, non-male, non-christian, non-native, etc.

And... what do you think the consequences of "speaking radically" are? You never answered that one.



I guess we are going to have to start putting in "Quote from abcdefg" to keep things straight since some of this gets a little confusing when the quote may be from a post quoted from another poster.
Many of my later posts were in response to SkyDog

When did anybody say This is how things are done in Somalia?

I'm glad you said "chunk of his base" since not all of his supporters are racist. Some support him only due to their distrust of Dems and/or Clinton.

A 4 year old would not have the understanding of why something is happening, just knowing that changes have taken place. She would know second hand of what happened, that's why I said "send her back to where her family was from for a short period of time". Later, since some posters couldn't grasp what I was saying, I fleshed it out a little with "As a US Rep, she would have the backing to ask questions-pointed questions-as to why there are still reasons why Somali citizens feel the need to leave their country."
I guess some folks still don't understand-due to their racist thinking about anyone who doesn't come out and swear a blood oath to their point of view. They just knee-jerk answers to those who don't seem to support their anointed ones. (Note: Thar is an observation, not a personal attack. and not directed to you adhill.)

Most importantly, how is you grand-mother-in-law doing?


Jerry - 7/22/2019 at 05:06 PM

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quote:
how old were they when they left their home lands?


Here's the problem, no one wants to do their own home work any more. If you were actually curious and hadn't formed a prejudiced opinion, you would look this up yourself.


Ok, let me do some homework.

Bill Graham was born in Russia, sent to a Berlin orphanage along with his younger sister. They went to a French orphanage (Bill was 8 years old) and they were part of a group later called One Thousand Children who were emigrated to the US. He was accepted in a foster home at age 10.
His father died 2 days after he was born, his mother died in Auschwitz, his sister died on the boat to the US.
His older sisters Rita, Evelyn, Sonia, and and Ester survived the Holocaust.

He was called Wolfgang when he was young, so thus the name of "Wolfgang's Vault".


What was/is your father-in- laws full name. Can't look it up if I don't know his name.


Jerry - 7/22/2019 at 05:34 PM

Quoted from SkyDog32103 07/21/19 at 5:48 pm



My apologies for the personal insults. I went over the line. it just burns me up to see the president of the united states verbally abuse american women, who by nature are in a weaker position than he is (as is everyone). it saddens me that our country has come to this. look at the character of every president who has come before him and compare it to what we see and hear from him on a daily basis. it's simply a huge black eye on united states history. and it saddens me to see all the cowards in our country play the scapegoat game and hire him to do their dirty deeds. even the most conservative business owners i know wouldn't allow behavior like his in their place of business. they'd be fired and thrown out immediately...yet somehow it's acceptable for president of the united states. when pressed for an explanation, they cry obama this, obama that, as if they are somehow comparable. he's convinced conservatives that its ok for the president to behave like a court jester because a court jester made fun of him. "the court jester did it so why can't i?" and it seems like half the country says "yeah!! if rappers can do it then why can't Trump?" obama was so bad that the right needed to hire a thug to beat up Democrats? the end result is a president who has consistently attacked and abused countless americans and countless american institutions for about 4 years straight now.

the only reason people like trump is because he abuses people that they also don't like nothing more nothing less. policy my a$$. if a trump supporter would for once show some stinkin sincerity and honesty instead of disguising their message in code, like cowards, maybe they'd get an ounce of respect from the other side.


[Edited on 7/21/2019 by Skydog32103]


Didn't think they were personal attacks, just knee-jerk reactions like I've seen a lot of happening lately when people don't actually read the posts, they just see what they want to see.
I didn't like the coward responses, but then again, nothing I haven't seen before.
Ya gotta remember I was a principle in the Fence Fund Mafia and look at all the abuse we got back then.

We have got to tone down the sometimes viscous responses to posters. We've lost too many good people here on both sides of the "debates" because of the way some others respond to their posts and the cyber-bullying that sometimes came along with it.

Too many posters assumed I was taking up for Trump. That's where the reading comprehension remarks came from. They obviously didn't read the posts as written, but as they wanted to see them, as support for Trump. Those that did so responded on a false assumption.

Everyone who came back with, I guess I'll have to use a childish response, "snotty" posts, needs to go back and re-read the posts and maybe they will understand what I was saying this time.

Remember, that just because you don't trash Trump doesn't mean you like his ways of doing some things, or support him in all things.

PS: Did you infer that Obama was a court jester?


Skydog32103 - 7/22/2019 at 05:56 PM

quote:
Too many posters assumed I was taking up for Trump. That's where the reading comprehension remarks came from. They obviously didn't read the posts as written, but as they wanted to see them, as support for Trump. Those that did so responded on a false assumption.

Everyone who came back with, I guess I'll have to use a childish response, "snotty" posts, needs to go back and re-read the posts and maybe they will understand what I was saying this time.


Remember, that just because you don't trash Trump doesn't mean you like his ways of doing some things, or support him in all things.


If you go back and read your posts, youíll also see how multiple people understandably took it the other way. Itís important to be very clear about a topic like this one.

quote:
PS: Did you infer that Obama was a court jester?


of course not. but Iíve heard trump and countless supporters justify his abuse and harassment by pointing the finger at other public figure clowns.


Skydog32103 - 7/22/2019 at 06:03 PM

i learned recently about many neighborhoods similar to that of Port Richmond and Kensington In Philadelphia. In the 50s and 60s, these neighborhoods were thriving blue collar factory towns. Like clockwork, at 5:30am, the factory whistles would sound off, and the streets were flooded with workers walking to be factory. They all had homes, cars, vacations, and livlihood. Then the factories all closed in subsequent decades, forcing the families to become unemployed, forgotten, and addicted to opioids. These generations gave birth to opioid addicted children, which ultimately lead to these neighborhoods converting into ghettos.

I understand if these families vote for Trump. They have a reason to shake things up. I understand if similar families, who donít have the skills to ascend social classes, feel forgotten and angry. But the privileged Sean Hannity types who enable this abuser in the White House canít go play in traffic fast enough.


adhill58 - 7/22/2019 at 08:35 PM

quote:
{Quoted from adhill post of 7/21/19 at 2:21 pm}
quote:
Okay, I think Jerry was directing some his retorts to me, and the reason I did not respond as quickly as he wanted was that I have been away from home visiting my wife's 98-year-old grandmother for the weekend... not because I felt "schooled".

Jerry, all the Melania Trump references were in posts before your initial post - the ones after were trying to help you "get" the "Mattel" joke, so get off of the reading comprehension soapbox.

And yes, I agree with the poster who said that it is disgustingly patronizing to infer That Ilhan Omar does not understand why her family left Somalia, today as an adult, whether or not she had a full grasp of it when she was a child. You don't think that she would want to know and understand? Why would she be incapable of knowing these things?

Also, when has she said, "This is how things are done in Somalia, so that's how they should be done in America."? Come on, man... you're taking the bait form Trump a little too easily.

Look, Trump just can't resist the fight when it is against a person that checks all the boxes of what the racist chunk of his base would hate the most: non-white, non-male, non-christian, non-native, etc.

And... what do you think the consequences of "speaking radically" are? You never answered that one.



I guess we are going to have to start putting in "Quote from abcdefg" to keep things straight since some of this gets a little confusing when the quote may be from a post quoted from another poster.
Many of my later posts were in response to SkyDog

When did anybody say This is how things are done in Somalia?

I'm glad you said "chunk of his base" since not all of his supporters are racist. Some support him only due to their distrust of Dems and/or Clinton.

A 4 year old would not have the understanding of why something is happening, just knowing that changes have taken place. She would know second hand of what happened, that's why I said "send her back to where her family was from for a short period of time". Later, since some posters couldn't grasp what I was saying, I fleshed it out a little with "As a US Rep, she would have the backing to ask questions-pointed questions-as to why there are still reasons why Somali citizens feel the need to leave their country."
I guess some folks still don't understand-due to their racist thinking about anyone who doesn't come out and swear a blood oath to their point of view. They just knee-jerk answers to those who don't seem to support their anointed ones. (Note: Thar is an observation, not a personal attack. and not directed to you adhill.)

Most importantly, how is you grand-mother-in-law doing?




My wife's grandmother is doing pretty well for someone born in 1921. A couple "mini-strokes" last week had us worried, but I was surprised how spry she was during our visit. Thanks for asking.

I think the problem people had was that Ilhan Omar is not a child today, and she has surely made an effort to learn about an event that would have been so life-changing. It doesn't matter if she understood at the time, with a little human courtesy we can assume that she understands the difference between living in Somalia and living here.

Many Trump supporters have suggested that the four members of congress that Trump has been pissing at are attempting to import ways of living from other cultures. I have seen Republicans in TV interviews doing it, and it was suggested in this thread by BIGV. That is a patently false assertion. I wasn't suggesting that you had said it... just that this has been part of the wider argument. Sorry for not clarifying that.


Jerry - 7/25/2019 at 03:25 AM




My wife's grandmother is doing pretty well for someone born in 1921. A couple "mini-strokes" last week had us worried, but I was surprised how spry she was during our visit. Thanks for asking.

I think the problem people had was that Ilhan Omar is not a child today, and she has surely made an effort to learn about an event that would have been so life-changing. It doesn't matter if she understood at the time, with a little human courtesy we can assume that she understands the difference between living in Somalia and living here.

Many Trump supporters have suggested that the four members of congress that Trump has been pissing at are attempting to import ways of living from other cultures. I have seen Republicans in TV interviews doing it, and it was suggested in this thread by BIGV. That is a patently false assertion. I wasn't suggesting that you had said it... just that this has been part of the wider argument. Sorry for not clarifying that.



Do you agree that if we "sent her back" for a short tour to see if there was a way she could help those left behind and under duress would be ok?

The US culture changes repeatedly, if not slowly. Many people fear quick change in the status quo. One question, are you sure it's patently false about them wanting to import ways of living from other countries?
Do you know something others don't?

Glad to hear about your wife's grandmother. My mother-in-law suffered several small strokes and seemed healthier, even got to where she would laugh at jokes, but due to conditions of the strokes she couldn't talk very well.
if she doesn't have one, and is able to respond, get her a straight talk cellphone. I'm sure she would love to hear from everybody as often as possible.


KCJimmy - 7/25/2019 at 03:10 PM

Omar doesn't think the USA deserves any more respect than Al-Qaeda. That should say enough for everyone on both sides of the aisle. She is entitled to her views. I am all for free speech. She should not be in our Government with those views but that takes us back to those who elected her.


porkchopbob - 7/25/2019 at 04:05 PM

quote:
Omar doesn't think the USA deserves any more respect than Al-Qaeda. That should say enough for everyone on both sides of the aisle. She is entitled to her views.


You're likely referring to Trump's false statement regarding Omar. You are entitled to your view, just try to do some homework and make sure it's based on fact.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ilhan-omar-proud/


MartinD28 - 7/25/2019 at 04:30 PM

quote:
Omar doesn't think the USA deserves any more respect than Al-Qaeda. That should say enough for everyone on both sides of the aisle. She is entitled to her views. I am all for free speech. She should not be in our Government with those views but that takes us back to those who elected her.


Do your own words apply to Trump? - She (substitute "he") should not be in our Government with those views but that takes us back to those who elected her (substitute "him").

Trump sides with Putin over US intelligence

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/16/politics/donald-trump-putin-helsinki-summit/ index.html

This has to be one of the most disgraceful moments for Americans to witness - A POTUS selling out our intel agencies in taking the side of Putin & Russia. So much for those who scream patriotism.


[Edited on 7/25/2019 by MartinD28]


KCJimmy - 7/25/2019 at 06:38 PM

quote:
quote:
Omar doesn't think the USA deserves any more respect than Al-Qaeda. That should say enough for everyone on both sides of the aisle. She is entitled to her views. I am all for free speech. She should not be in our Government with those views but that takes us back to those who elected her.


Do your own words apply to Trump? - She (substitute "he") should not be in our Government with those views but that takes us back to those who elected her (substitute "him").

Trump sides with Putin over US intelligence

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/16/politics/donald-trump-putin-helsinki-summit/ index.html

This has to be one of the most disgraceful moments for Americans to witness - A POTUS selling out our intel agencies in taking the side of Putin & Russia. So much for those who scream patriotism.


[Edited on 7/25/2019 by MartinD28]
Yes. My words do apply to Trump. But Trump does not hate America nor does he say things that indicates he hates America.

Look I am not an idiot and I doubt seriously that you are an idiot. Your post though suggests otherwise. DUDE Mueller has reported, he has testified. But for those who just can't accept the results of 1) The election or 2) the outcome of the "Investigation" into the election, it's over. Get used to it.

Disgraceful? Try this on for size... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3mQaHTj7ow If nothing else it will give you a good laugh.

quote:
You're likely referring to Trump's false statement regarding Omar. You are entitled to your view, just try to do some homework and make sure it's based on fact.
No sir you are once again WRONG. I was referring to her own words..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkIgHFXvGSw Perhaps homework would good for you too?


porkchopbob - 7/25/2019 at 07:23 PM

quote:
quote:
You're likely referring to Trump's false statement regarding Omar. You are entitled to your view, just try to do some homework and make sure it's based on fact.
No sir you are once again WRONG. I was referring to her own words..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkIgHFXvGSw Perhaps homework would good for you too?


You are totally misunderstanding what she says and it is explained for you in the link I provided. Try watching all 3 minutes, don't just read the cliff's notes. So I guess wrong, and you don't understand.

quote:
In the portion of the interview in question, Omar and host Ahned Tharwat were discussing the tendency for English speakers to pronounce Arabic words with an intensity that makes the words sound more threatening than their literal definitions. The Arabic term ďmadrassa,Ē for example, simply translates to ďschool.Ē Even the names of terrorist groups, they said, sound flat when translated from Arabic. Al-Qaida, for example, means ďthe army.Ē Al Shabab means ďthe youth.Ē

Omar called it a byproduct of sensationalism in the news media that casts Muslims in a suspicious light overall. As an example of the phenomenon, Omar said she took a college course on the ideology of terrorism, and noticed that the professor pronounced Arabic words in a peculiar way.


KCJimmy - 7/25/2019 at 08:09 PM

Seen it, read it again and the only conclusion I have arrived at is I wouldn't want you in our government either. Funny how liberals can "explain" to us idiots that even though the meaning of the words were hateful and the way they were said was hateful that we just misunderstand. But let Trump crack a pretty funny joke about having Hillary's emails sent over by Russia and the "smart ones" want to use it as evidence against him for impeachment. Don't quit your regular job dude.

So Tell me "smart one" how I am "misunderstanding" Omar's comments on Israel?




[Edited on 7/25/2019 by KCJimmy]


porkchopbob - 7/25/2019 at 08:51 PM

quote:
Funny how liberals can "explain" to us idiots that even though the meaning of the words were hateful and the way they were said was hateful that we just misunderstand.

If you think it's hateful to say that there is a latent prejudice towards Arabic words in Western culture, then you're probably the one with the prejudice.


Jerry - 7/25/2019 at 09:07 PM

quote:
quote:
Funny how liberals can "explain" to us idiots that even though the meaning of the words were hateful and the way they were said was hateful that we just misunderstand.

If you think it's hateful to say that there is a latent prejudice towards Arabic words in Western culture, then you're probably the one with the prejudice.


Porkchop, that's not a very good explanation. Could you expand on, or explain what she was saying.

Also, I still can't do my homework on your father-in-law if I don't have his name.


porkchopbob - 7/25/2019 at 09:20 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
Funny how liberals can "explain" to us idiots that even though the meaning of the words were hateful and the way they were said was hateful that we just misunderstand.

If you think it's hateful to say that there is a latent prejudice towards Arabic words in Western culture, then you're probably the one with the prejudice.


Porkchop, that's not a very good explanation. Could you expand on, or explain what she was saying.

I'm assuming you're joking, but I'll repost just in case: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ilhan-omar-proud/

quote:
Also, I still can't do my homework on your father-in-law if I don't have his name.

Jerry, stop trying to quantify refugee trauma so you can rationalize Trump's statements on "sending them back", which he even attempted to walk back on. Perhaps you should spend some time with refugees.


adhill58 - 7/25/2019 at 11:34 PM

quote:



My wife's grandmother is doing pretty well for someone born in 1921. A couple "mini-strokes" last week had us worried, but I was surprised how spry she was during our visit. Thanks for asking.

I think the problem people had was that Ilhan Omar is not a child today, and she has surely made an effort to learn about an event that would have been so life-changing. It doesn't matter if she understood at the time, with a little human courtesy we can assume that she understands the difference between living in Somalia and living here.

Many Trump supporters have suggested that the four members of congress that Trump has been pissing at are attempting to import ways of living from other cultures. I have seen Republicans in TV interviews doing it, and it was suggested in this thread by BIGV. That is a patently false assertion. I wasn't suggesting that you had said it... just that this has been part of the wider argument. Sorry for not clarifying that.



Do you agree that if we "sent her back" for a short tour to see if there was a way she could help those left behind and under duress would be ok?

The US culture changes repeatedly, if not slowly. Many people fear quick change in the status quo. One question, are you sure it's patently false about them wanting to import ways of living from other countries?
Do you know something others don't?

Glad to hear about your wife's grandmother. My mother-in-law suffered several small strokes and seemed healthier, even got to where she would laugh at jokes, but due to conditions of the strokes she couldn't talk very well.
if she doesn't have one, and is able to respond, get her a straight talk cellphone. I'm sure she would love to hear from everybody as often as possible.



Jerry, the suggestion of her going back as a member of congress on a fact-finding or humanitarian mission was never part of the conversation. That is not what Trump meant. The chants at the rally were not "Send her back so she can help people suffering in Somalia because we care so much for Somalians". They were just racist hate-spewing.

But sure, I support her going anywhere she needs to go in the function of her job as a member of congress.

[Side Note] The cell phone suggestion unfortunately won't help my wife's grandmother as she lived most of her life in Wellsville, Ohio, which is a coal / steel town. Despite never using tobacco, about ten years ago she had to have her larynx removed due to cancer.


Jerry - 7/26/2019 at 01:50 PM


Jerry, the suggestion of her going back as a member of congress on a fact-finding or humanitarian mission was never part of the conversation. That is not what Trump meant. The chants at the rally were not "Send her back so she can help people suffering in Somalia because we care so much for Somalians". They were just racist hate-spewing.

But sure, I support her going anywhere she needs to go in the function of her job as a member of congress.

[Side Note] The cell phone suggestion unfortunately won't help my wife's grandmother as she lived most of her life in Wellsville, Ohio, which is a coal / steel town. Despite never using tobacco, about ten years ago she had to have her larynx removed due to cancer.


No, the chants weren't like that. Trump did not raise his hands to stop the chants as i would have expected. Then again, if he had some Dem nut case would claim he was urging them on. Myself, if he had said, folks let me get back to my speech, it could have cut it off.

Man, sorry about her needing that done. It's kind of mysterious how cancer can hit people like that. My Dad was the baby of 17. My aunts and uncles mostly died of cancer. My Dad had some cancers removed several times. Most worked either in auto related jobs or were farmers.

Is she somewhat cognizant and mobile? If so, maybe just do a video chat where she can see and hear you.
Smiles and waves can convey a lot of info.


MartinD28 - 7/26/2019 at 02:05 PM

quote:

No, the chants weren't like that. Trump did not raise his hands to stop the chants as i would have expected. Then again, if he had some Dem nut case would claim he was urging them on. Myself, if he had said, folks let me get back to my speech, it could have cut it off.




Why would you have expected him to cut them off? After this much time running for office and his actions in office, this is who he is & is predictable. These were pretty much his own ideas & words earlier in that week. He instigates this rhetoric & the audicence feeds off of it. He waited 13 seconds before he began speaking.

Last election he sat idlely as the followers chanted "Lock her up" at rally after rally. This new chant = his new bumper sticker version 2 for the next election. Concept has shifted to "Send her back".

Who is really urging them on?

You'll find out what he's made of when the next several rallies occur and how he deals with it? He created it, he owns it, and it is his to perpetuate or stop.


BIGV - 7/26/2019 at 02:07 PM

quote:
You'll find out what he's made of


You don't know by now?


KCJimmy - 7/26/2019 at 02:24 PM

Ilhan Omar IS the racist in this story. Her statements on Israel, and now we learn about her statements warning that White Men are the real threat. I don't care WHERE she lives. She should not be in congress. The Freedom she enjoys here allows her to rant against the very system that offered her family a better life.

EDIT:

Apparently she is safe though. Her Republican challenger has been charged with felony shoplifting. No Kidding. I didn't even know there was such a thing.

[Edited on 7/26/2019 by KCJimmy]


BrerRabbit - 7/26/2019 at 09:47 PM

Yeah steal enough and it is Grand Theft a felony. She is claiming she blacked out at Target. Reading the kind of things she was stealng "Cat Tick Spray" etc points to her being kookoo for koko puffs.


crazyjoe - 7/26/2019 at 09:49 PM

Well, if You wanna send one back, maybe this one should go???.........Peace.........joe



Republican Danielle Stella, aiming to unseat Ilhan Omar, charged with felony

http://flip.it/s42apC


BrerRabbit - 7/26/2019 at 09:54 PM

Looks like she already got sent back - to the dark side of the moon. She is seeking asylum. Insane asylum

[Edited on 7/26/2019 by BrerRabbit]


Jerry - 7/26/2019 at 11:43 PM

Joe, I've got to agree with you on this one. If she gets "anxiety from being around people" then I hope she gets help for it, but I personally don't think she would be good for Congress until she does.
Suffering from PTSD, the charges might eventually get dropped due to mental condition.

Saying that, I haven't found anything about why she suffers from PTSD.


crazyjoe - 7/27/2019 at 01:47 AM

Indeed Jerry! You were a bit more thoughtful here than myself, if this girl truly has a mental problem, some help would probably be more beneficial than punishment!........Peace........joe


BrerRabbit - 7/27/2019 at 01:55 AM

For sure - she filled her cart with 2000+$ of random crap and wheeled it out - thats not shoplifting thats spacetruckin.


Bhawk - 7/27/2019 at 04:26 PM

quote:
Trump does not hate America nor does he say things that indicates he hates America.


Yup. From loony liberal California, to the Democrat killing fields of Chicago to the rodent-infested streets of Baltimore, yíall love America so much it hurts. Itís so obvious!


BIGV - 7/27/2019 at 09:29 PM

quote:
quote:
Trump does not hate America nor does he say things that indicates he hates America.


Yup. From loony liberal California, to the Democrat killing fields of Chicago to the rodent-infested streets of Baltimore, yíall love America so much it hurts. Itís so obvious!


Well, look at that!...All three locals named above have had Democratic "leadership" for how long now?

They Vote in these three cities, right?


BrerRabbit - 7/27/2019 at 11:20 PM

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Yup. From loony liberal California, to the Democrat killing fields of Chicago to the rodent-infested streets of Baltimore, yíall love America so much it hurts. Itís so obvious!

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Well, look at that!...All three locals named above have had Democratic "leadership" for how long now?

They Vote in these three cities, right?



Is the mayor of California Republican or Democrat?


Bhawk - 7/27/2019 at 11:23 PM

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Trump does not hate America nor does he say things that indicates he hates America.


Yup. From loony liberal California, to the Democrat killing fields of Chicago to the rodent-infested streets of Baltimore, yíall love America so much it hurts. Itís so obvious!


Well, look at that!...All three locals named above have had Democratic "leadership" for how long now?

They Vote in these three cities, right?


Not what Iím talking about, and as usual, you knew that!


Jerry - 7/28/2019 at 01:41 AM



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Also, I still can't do my homework on your father-in-law if I don't have his name.


Jerry, stop trying to quantify refugee trauma so you can rationalize Trump's statements on "sending them back", which he even attempted to walk back on. Perhaps you should spend some time with refugees.


Uh, PorkChop, you're the one that told me to do my homework on how old he was when he arrived in the US.

I can't do that if I don't know his name. If you don't want it on the forum, send it by PM.


BIGV - 7/28/2019 at 03:24 AM

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Yup. From loony liberal California, to the Democrat killing fields of Chicago to the rodent-infested streets of Baltimore, yíall love America so much it hurts. Itís so obvious!

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Well, look at that!...All three locals named above have had Democratic "leadership" for how long now?

They Vote in these three cities, right?



Is the mayor of California Republican or Democrat?


Mmmmm "The Mayor" of California?...The Mayor of S.F. is a Democrat. The Governor is a Democrat.

2/3...My bad


pops42 - 7/28/2019 at 04:27 AM

California appears to be doing quite well with democratic leadership. https://medium.com/s/state-of-the-future/the-new-california-democrat-americ as-new-way-forward-99e4ac34f5e6


pops42 - 7/28/2019 at 04:35 AM

When you moving back BIG VEE?


Bhawk - 7/28/2019 at 10:54 PM

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Yup. From loony liberal California, to the Democrat killing fields of Chicago to the rodent-infested streets of Baltimore, yíall love America so much it hurts. Itís so obvious!

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Well, look at that!...All three locals named above have had Democratic "leadership" for how long now?

They Vote in these three cities, right?



Is the mayor of California Republican or Democrat?


Mmmmm "The Mayor" of California?...The Mayor of S.F. is a Democrat. The Governor is a Democrat.

2/3...My bad


The Governor of Maryland is a Republican. Thatís kinda interesting.


BIGV - 7/28/2019 at 11:09 PM

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Yup. From loony liberal California, to the Democrat killing fields of Chicago to the rodent-infested streets of Baltimore, yíall love America so much it hurts. Itís so obvious!

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Well, look at that!...All three locals named above have had Democratic "leadership" for how long now?

They Vote in these three cities, right?



Is the mayor of California Republican or Democrat?


Mmmmm "The Mayor" of California?...The Mayor of S.F. is a Democrat. The Governor is a Democrat.

2/3...My bad


The Governor of Maryland is a Republican. Thatís kinda interesting.


Sure is. Especially when your first quote was about the " the rodent-infested streets of Baltimore"....

And look at this! Bernard Young is the Mayor of Baltimore and he is a Democrat!


Bhawk - 7/29/2019 at 01:08 AM

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Yup. From loony liberal California, to the Democrat killing fields of Chicago to the rodent-infested streets of Baltimore, yíall love America so much it hurts. Itís so obvious!

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Well, look at that!...All three locals named above have had Democratic "leadership" for how long now?

They Vote in these three cities, right?



Is the mayor of California Republican or Democrat?


Mmmmm "The Mayor" of California?...The Mayor of S.F. is a Democrat. The Governor is a Democrat.

2/3...My bad


The Governor of Maryland is a Republican. Thatís kinda interesting.


Sure is. Especially when your first quote was about the " the rodent-infested streets of Baltimore"....

And look at this! Bernard Young is the Mayor of Baltimore and he is a Democrat!


The rodent infested remark was inspired by the President and how much he loved his country, and you knew that too!

Iím excited that you are excited like the President is about fixing Baltimore. What do you think is the best way for the Federal government to fix the issue?


2112 - 7/29/2019 at 03:51 AM

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Trump does not hate America nor does he say things that indicates he hates America.


Yup. From loony liberal California, to the Democrat killing fields of Chicago to the rodent-infested streets of Baltimore, yíall love America so much it hurts. Itís so obvious!


Well, look at that!...All three locals named above have had Democratic "leadership" for how long now?

They Vote in these three cities, right?


So, is Trump president of only part of America? I know it seems like he only cares about part of America. It doesn't take too much thought to figure out which part of America he cares about.


BIGV - 7/29/2019 at 04:36 AM

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Yup. From loony liberal California, to the Democrat killing fields of Chicago to the rodent-infested streets of Baltimore, yíall love America so much it hurts. Itís so obvious!

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Well, look at that!...All three locals named above have had Democratic "leadership" for how long now?

They Vote in these three cities, right?



Is the mayor of California Republican or Democrat?


Mmmmm "The Mayor" of California?...The Mayor of S.F. is a Democrat. The Governor is a Democrat.

2/3...My bad


The Governor of Maryland is a Republican. Thatís kinda interesting.


Sure is. Especially when your first quote was about the " the rodent-infested streets of Baltimore"....

And look at this! Bernard Young is the Mayor of Baltimore and he is a Democrat!


The rodent infested remark was inspired by the President and how much he loved his country, and you knew that too!

Iím excited that you are excited like the President is about fixing Baltimore. What do you think is the best way for the Federal government to fix the issue?


I don't believe this is a Federal issue, not for one moment. The crimes are being committed in municipalities that voted for the people they felt best qualified to solve these problems and it isn't working.

Tell me why this is a Federal issue?


Bhawk - 7/29/2019 at 11:58 AM

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Yup. From loony liberal California, to the Democrat killing fields of Chicago to the rodent-infested streets of Baltimore, yíall love America so much it hurts. Itís so obvious!

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Well, look at that!...All three locals named above have had Democratic "leadership" for how long now?

They Vote in these three cities, right?



Is the mayor of California Republican or Democrat?


Mmmmm "The Mayor" of California?...The Mayor of S.F. is a Democrat. The Governor is a Democrat.

2/3...My bad


The Governor of Maryland is a Republican. Thatís kinda interesting.


Sure is. Especially when your first quote was about the " the rodent-infested streets of Baltimore"....

And look at this! Bernard Young is the Mayor of Baltimore and he is a Democrat!


The rodent infested remark was inspired by the President and how much he loved his country, and you knew that too!

Iím excited that you are excited like the President is about fixing Baltimore. What do you think is the best way for the Federal government to fix the issue?


I don't believe this is a Federal issue, not for one moment. The crimes are being committed in municipalities that voted for the people they felt best qualified to solve these problems and it isn't working.

Tell me why this is a Federal issue?


Ooo! Ooo! Smug and obtuse! I love smug and obtuse!

Iím just following the Presidentís lead here, man. He keeps taking a Congressman to task for the shape that Baltimore is in so obviously itís a Federal thing? No?


BIGV - 7/29/2019 at 02:05 PM

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Yup. From loony liberal California, to the Democrat killing fields of Chicago to the rodent-infested streets of Baltimore, yíall love America so much it hurts. Itís so obvious!

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Well, look at that!...All three locals named above have had Democratic "leadership" for how long now?

They Vote in these three cities, right?



Is the mayor of California Republican or Democrat?


Mmmmm "The Mayor" of California?...The Mayor of S.F. is a Democrat. The Governor is a Democrat.

2/3...My bad


The Governor of Maryland is a Republican. Thatís kinda interesting.


Sure is. Especially when your first quote was about the " the rodent-infested streets of Baltimore"....

And look at this! Bernard Young is the Mayor of Baltimore and he is a Democrat!


The rodent infested remark was inspired by the President and how much he loved his country, and you knew that too!

Iím excited that you are excited like the President is about fixing Baltimore. What do you think is the best way for the Federal government to fix the issue?


I don't believe this is a Federal issue, not for one moment. The crimes are being committed in municipalities that voted for the people they felt best qualified to solve these problems and it isn't working.

Tell me why this is a Federal issue?


Ooo! Ooo! Smug and obtuse! I love smug and obtuse!

Iím just following the Presidentís lead here, man. He keeps taking a Congressman to task for the shape that Baltimore is in so obviously itís a Federal thing? No?


Congress, as in a more localized issue. I'll wager the Congressman in that district is a Democrat.

Try to follow.


Chain - 7/29/2019 at 02:28 PM

Given the success Trump promised on the campaign trail with addressing the violence and murder issues of Chicago, folks in Baltimore must be ecstatic now that Dear Leader has turned his raving lunacy toward them...No president that I can recall has ever solved inner city violence, crime, poverty, etc. like the Trumpster! The man is simply the greatest ever....


BIGV - 7/29/2019 at 02:54 PM

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Given the success Trump promised on the campaign trail with addressing the violence and murder issues of Chicago, folks in Baltimore must be ecstatic now that Dear Leader has turned his raving lunacy toward them...No president that I can recall has ever solved inner city violence, crime, poverty, etc. like the Trumpster! The man is simply the greatest ever....


Let's get to the core.

WHO is to blame for the inner city violence?...The individual committing these crimes?...or the government for not stopping it?...And it is NOT a "shared" blame, personal responsibility starts where?


Bhawk - 7/29/2019 at 03:52 PM

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Yup. From loony liberal California, to the Democrat killing fields of Chicago to the rodent-infested streets of Baltimore, yíall love America so much it hurts. Itís so obvious!

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Well, look at that!...All three locals named above have had Democratic "leadership" for how long now?

They Vote in these three cities, right?



Is the mayor of California Republican or Democrat?


Mmmmm "The Mayor" of California?...The Mayor of S.F. is a Democrat. The Governor is a Democrat.

2/3...My bad


The Governor of Maryland is a Republican. Thatís kinda interesting.


Sure is. Especially when your first quote was about the " the rodent-infested streets of Baltimore"....

And look at this! Bernard Young is the Mayor of Baltimore and he is a Democrat!


The rodent infested remark was inspired by the President and how much he loved his country, and you knew that too!

Iím excited that you are excited like the President is about fixing Baltimore. What do you think is the best way for the Federal government to fix the issue?


I don't believe this is a Federal issue, not for one moment. The crimes are being committed in municipalities that voted for the people they felt best qualified to solve these problems and it isn't working.

Tell me why this is a Federal issue?


Ooo! Ooo! Smug and obtuse! I love smug and obtuse!

Iím just following the Presidentís lead here, man. He keeps taking a Congressman to task for the shape that Baltimore is in so obviously itís a Federal thing? No?


Congress, as in a more localized issue. I'll wager the Congressman in that district is a Democrat.

Try to follow.


Congress isn't a part of the Federal government? Learn something new every day!


Skydog32103 - 7/29/2019 at 06:28 PM

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And it is NOT a "shared" blame, personal responsibility starts where?


If you acknowledge thereís plenty of blame to go around then what it is your point?


2112 - 7/29/2019 at 06:31 PM

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Given the success Trump promised on the campaign trail with addressing the violence and murder issues of Chicago, folks in Baltimore must be ecstatic now that Dear Leader has turned his raving lunacy toward them...No president that I can recall has ever solved inner city violence, crime, poverty, etc. like the Trumpster! The man is simply the greatest ever....


Let's get to the core.

WHO is to blame for the inner city violence?...The individual committing these crimes?...or the government for not stopping it?...And it is NOT a "shared" blame, personal responsibility starts where?


That's funny. Just a few posts back it seems like you were blaming Democratic mayors and congressmen.


Skydog32103 - 7/29/2019 at 06:35 PM

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Seen it, read it again and the only conclusion I have arrived at is I wouldn't want you in our government either. Funny how liberals can "explain" to us idiots that even though the meaning of the words were hateful and the way they were said was hateful that we just misunderstand. But let Trump crack a pretty funny joke about having Hillary's emails sent over by Russia and the "smart ones" want to use it as evidence against him for impeachment. Don't quit your regular job dude.

So Tell me "smart one" how I am "misunderstanding" Omar's comments on Israel?


You arenít misunderstanding it at all. You have it right. There are much better candidates than she. The stupidity is your obvious fake outrage and fake concern. If you actually cared about decency, you and your ilk wouldnít be so attracted to Trump. If you cared, or were actually patriotic, youíd have higher expectations for the office of the presidency.


BIGV - 7/29/2019 at 06:39 PM

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Seen it, read it again and the only conclusion I have arrived at is I wouldn't want you in our government either. Funny how liberals can "explain" to us idiots that even though the meaning of the words were hateful and the way they were said was hateful that we just misunderstand. But let Trump crack a pretty funny joke about having Hillary's emails sent over by Russia and the "smart ones" want to use it as evidence against him for impeachment. Don't quit your regular job dude.

So Tell me "smart one" how I am "misunderstanding" Omar's comments on Israel?


You arenít misunderstanding it at all. You have it right. There are much better candidates than she. The stupidity is your obvious fake outrage and fake concern. If you actually cared about decency, you and your ilk wouldnít be so attracted to Trump. If you cared, or were actually patriotic, youíd have higher expectations for the office of the presidency.


Sadly, this continues to be the response from the left for ALL of the Nations "Ills" . NO thoughts, ideas or new proposals that might lead to resolution. Just the same old tired degrading comments and attempts to throw blame at everything but the root cause.

This is exactly why he will be re-elected.


Bhawk - 7/29/2019 at 08:34 PM

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Seen it, read it again and the only conclusion I have arrived at is I wouldn't want you in our government either. Funny how liberals can "explain" to us idiots that even though the meaning of the words were hateful and the way they were said was hateful that we just misunderstand. But let Trump crack a pretty funny joke about having Hillary's emails sent over by Russia and the "smart ones" want to use it as evidence against him for impeachment. Don't quit your regular job dude.

So Tell me "smart one" how I am "misunderstanding" Omar's comments on Israel?


You arenít misunderstanding it at all. You have it right. There are much better candidates than she. The stupidity is your obvious fake outrage and fake concern. If you actually cared about decency, you and your ilk wouldnít be so attracted to Trump. If you cared, or were actually patriotic, youíd have higher expectations for the office of the presidency.


Sadly, this continues to be the response from the left for ALL of the Nations "Ills" . NO thoughts, ideas or new proposals that might lead to resolution. Just the same old tired degrading comments and attempts to throw blame at everything but the root cause.

This is exactly why he will be re-elected.


What are the ideas and actions coming from the Republicans and the President to change the plight of inner cities? They've gotta be awesome!


Skydog32103 - 7/29/2019 at 09:08 PM

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Sadly, this continues to be the response from the left for ALL of the Nations "Ills" . NO thoughts, ideas or new proposals that might lead to resolution. Just the same old tired degrading comments and attempts to throw blame at everything but the root cause.

This is exactly why he will be re-elected.


Well Iím not running for office, and if I was, I wouldnít be posting my ideas on the Allman Brothers website. Nor did I post anything blaming Trump for any problem so calm down and dry your panties. Sorry but if you want to admire Trump go right ahead, but donít come crying to me about someone else being rude or indecent.


KCJimmy - 7/29/2019 at 09:15 PM

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What are the ideas and actions coming from the Republicans and the President to change the plight of inner cities? They've gotta be awesome!
How about electing Mayors, City Council, state congress. school superintendents, & other local offices that have sensible policies to deal with these things. Rudy Guiliani made a huge difference in New York only to see it deteriorate under the Dems that Followed. It is not a coincidence that cities with the worst crime & homelessness problems (Chicago, New York, Baltimore, SanFran.....) have been under liberal leadership for a very long time. Keep trying the same liberal policies and expecting a different outcome....... equals insanity.

Don't get me wrong it's still Trumps fault because well everything is his fault. Just hope he doesn't screw up this Obama economy!


Jerry - 7/29/2019 at 10:20 PM


Tell me why this is a Federal issue?


Ooo! Ooo! Smug and obtuse! I love smug and obtuse!

Iím just following the Presidentís lead here, man. He keeps taking a Congressman to task for the shape that Baltimore is in so obviously itís a Federal thing? No?


Congress, as in a more localized issue. I'll wager the Congressman in that district is a Democrat.

Try to follow.


Congress isn't a part of the Federal government? Learn something new every day!


Sorry that you didn't understand that Congress is the local elected officials in the federal government. Congressional Representatives are voted in every 2 years while the Senate is voted in every 6 years. congressmen serve population districts while Senators serve for half of each state.

The congressman for Baltimore area is a Democrat.

Baltimore Mayors that have served by way of corruption, kickbacks, bribery, a "turn of the nose", and ignoring the illegal activities (crime) and murder rate going up during their terms.

Most recently, Catherine Pugh: under investigation by the IRS and FBI over kickbacks and the sale of massive numbers of her self published children's book to people wanting contracts with the city
Stephanie Rawlings-Blake: The "give them room to destroy' mayor, also investigated and forced to reimburse her campaign fund (she decided not to run) since somewhere around $250,000 mas unaccounted for. It was found that some of it went to Pugh's campaign fund.
Sheila Dixon: indited on 12 felony and misdemeanor charges (one bad one was misappropriation of funds, gift cards for poor people).
Thomas D'Alesandro III followed in his father's footsteps and apparently did nothing to curb the crime in Baltimore
Thomas D'Alesandro, Jr. the Baltimore mayor that JFK wanted investigated due to racketeering, influence peddling, and bribes.

Note: all listed are/were Democrats. One Republican has been elected mayor 1963-1967. Several Democratic mayors seem to have tried to reduce crime.

Special note on the funny?? side is that Thomas D'Alesandro, Jr. was father to, and Thomas III is the brother of
Nancy D"Alesandro, who married to Paul Pelosi in 1963.


Skydog32103 - 7/29/2019 at 10:24 PM

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It is not a coincidence that cities with the worst crime & homelessness problems (Chicago, New York, Baltimore, SanFran.....) have been under liberal leadership for a very long time. Keep trying the same liberal policies and expecting a different outcome....... equals insanity.

Don't get me wrong it's still Trumps fault because well everything is his fault. Just hope he doesn't screw up this Obama economy!


Fault? No, you are being called out on your fake hypocritical outrage over decency. You gave up that privilege when you cast your vote for Trump. And by the way, Chicago, NYC, and SF are among the most prosperous cities in the world....way to own those Dems!


BIGV - 7/29/2019 at 10:34 PM

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It is not a coincidence that cities with the worst crime & homelessness problems (Chicago, New York, Baltimore, SanFran.....) have been under liberal leadership for a very long time. Keep trying the same liberal policies and expecting a different outcome....... equals insanity.

Don't get me wrong it's still Trumps fault because well everything is his fault. Just hope he doesn't screw up this Obama economy!


Fault? No, you are being called out on your fake hypocritical outrage over decency. You gave up that privilege when you cast your vote for Trump. And by the way, Chicago, NYC, and SF are among the most prosperous cities in the world....way to own those Dems!


Are not the Democrats the party of the ďlittle peopleĒ? How does homelessness, poverty, crime and ignorance factor into the ďprosperousĒ argument?


Skydog32103 - 7/29/2019 at 10:54 PM

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Are not the Democrats the party of the ďlittle peopleĒ? How does homelessness, poverty, crime and ignorance factor into the ďprosperousĒ argument?


I hear both parties boast about that, and I ignore it all. But I donít remember anyone ever saying they are for the little people at the expense of building greatness.


Bhawk - 7/29/2019 at 11:14 PM

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Tell me why this is a Federal issue?


Ooo! Ooo! Smug and obtuse! I love smug and obtuse!

Iím just following the Presidentís lead here, man. He keeps taking a Congressman to task for the shape that Baltimore is in so obviously itís a Federal thing? No?


Congress, as in a more localized issue. I'll wager the Congressman in that district is a Democrat.

Try to follow.


Congress isn't a part of the Federal government? Learn something new every day!


Sorry that you didn't understand that Congress is the local elected officials in the federal government. Congressional Representatives are voted in every 2 years while the Senate is voted in every 6 years. congressmen serve population districts while Senators serve for half of each state.

The congressman for Baltimore area is a Democrat.

Baltimore Mayors that have served by way of corruption, kickbacks, bribery, a "turn of the nose", and ignoring the illegal activities (crime) and murder rate going up during their terms.

Most recently, Catherine Pugh: under investigation by the IRS and FBI over kickbacks and the sale of massive numbers of her self published children's book to people wanting contracts with the city
Stephanie Rawlings-Blake: The "give them room to destroy' mayor, also investigated and forced to reimburse her campaign fund (she decided not to run) since somewhere around $250,000 mas unaccounted for. It was found that some of it went to Pugh's campaign fund.
Sheila Dixon: indited on 12 felony and misdemeanor charges (one bad one was misappropriation of funds, gift cards for poor people).
Thomas D'Alesandro III followed in his father's footsteps and apparently did nothing to curb the crime in Baltimore
Thomas D'Alesandro, Jr. the Baltimore mayor that JFK wanted investigated due to racketeering, influence peddling, and bribes.

Note: all listed are/were Democrats. One Republican has been elected mayor 1963-1967. Several Democratic mayors seem to have tried to reduce crime.

Special note on the funny?? side is that Thomas D'Alesandro, Jr. was father to, and Thomas III is the brother of
Nancy D"Alesandro, who married to Paul Pelosi in 1963.


Well damn. Guess all my learniní pales in comparison to Vince and Jerry being better and smarter than me. Guess I forgot!

Still would love to hear how the Republicans and the President are gonna help the plight of the inner cities.


BIGV - 7/29/2019 at 11:28 PM

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Well damn. Guess all my learniní pales in comparison to Vince and Jerry being better and smarter than me. Guess I forgot!

Still would love to hear how the Republicans and the President are gonna help the plight of the inner cities.


The lack of success by the Democrats on this issue might require some attention by Republicans, but it is not the responsibility of the Feds. THAT is why cities elect people to represent them at the LOCAL level. If that fails it is on the local branches of Gubmint, not the Feds.


WaitinForRain - 7/30/2019 at 01:15 AM

Donald Trump = Flipper

He couldn't stick to one story of you paid him


OriginalGoober - 7/30/2019 at 01:18 AM

There is no sugar coating Baltimore's warts -Boarding houses, drugs, crime, crime as a way of life, addicts, life in some parts of Baltimore seems unreal. I catch a view from the window of Amtrak and see a waste land and can only wonder how things got so bad. Pres Trump holds people accountable, starting with those who represent these areas in Washington D>C.


MartinD28 - 7/30/2019 at 02:01 AM

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There is no sugar coating Baltimore's warts -Boarding houses, drugs, crime, crime as a way of life, addicts, life in some parts of Baltimore seems unreal. I catch a view from the window of Amtrak and see a waste land and can only wonder how things got so bad. Pres Trump holds people accountable, starting with those who represent these areas in Washington D>C.


Does Trump hold son in law Kushner accountable for massive code violations in Baltimore rental properties he owns?


BIGV - 7/30/2019 at 03:56 AM

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There is no sugar coating Baltimore's warts -Boarding houses, drugs, crime, crime as a way of life, addicts, life in some parts of Baltimore seems unreal. I catch a view from the window of Amtrak and see a waste land and can only wonder how things got so bad. Pres Trump holds people accountable, starting with those who represent these areas in Washington D>C.


Does Trump hold son in law Kushner accountable for massive code violations in Baltimore rental properties he owns?


What a bleeping playground like response.

Democratic policies created this mess and you know it. Admit it, then let's hear what LOCAL leadership should do to repair it!


Skydog32103 - 7/30/2019 at 10:16 AM

LOL, now people are faking knowledge about Baltimore to justify fake outrage. So sad. I can respect the line, ďI donít know sh*t about Baltimore but Iím glad Trump is speaking up against Cummingsí remarks.Ē But no, the moron googles Baltimore and pretends to know something about it.


MartinD28 - 7/30/2019 at 11:47 AM

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There is no sugar coating Baltimore's warts -Boarding houses, drugs, crime, crime as a way of life, addicts, life in some parts of Baltimore seems unreal. I catch a view from the window of Amtrak and see a waste land and can only wonder how things got so bad. Pres Trump holds people accountable, starting with those who represent these areas in Washington D>C.


Does Trump hold son in law Kushner accountable for massive code violations in Baltimore rental properties he owns?


What a bleeping playground like response.

Democratic policies created this mess and you know it. Admit it, then let's hear what LOCAL leadership should do to repair it!


Fact - Plenty of Kushner's accumulation of wealth is on the back of people where he acted as a slumblord and piled up violation after violation. See Baltimore. Yet Trump again attacks an African American Congressman. No pattern in play here?

Trump is a racist plain and simple, but you will deny that. I previously asked you if he was a racist, and you said no. I assume you still stick to that line? The evidence and his own words are hard to dispute.

There is plenty of blame to go around in places like Baltimore - local, state, and federal governments. Localities are not autonomous entities in the USA.


BIGV - 7/30/2019 at 04:58 PM

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There is no sugar coating Baltimore's warts -Boarding houses, drugs, crime, crime as a way of life, addicts, life in some parts of Baltimore seems unreal. I catch a view from the window of Amtrak and see a waste land and can only wonder how things got so bad. Pres Trump holds people accountable, starting with those who represent these areas in Washington D>C.


Does Trump hold son in law Kushner accountable for massive code violations in Baltimore rental properties he owns?


What a bleeping playground like response.

Democratic policies created this mess and you know it. Admit it, then let's hear what LOCAL leadership should do to repair it!


Why don't you ever offer any alternaives or ideas?

Oh, that's right. Libertarians don't really exist. They're just Republicans that use "Libertariansism" whenever they find Republicans distasteful.


Just exactly what is it that you are hoping I might have an idea for? I am far from being a problem solving elected official. I am not an economist. I will defer to the ones who place their knowledge, skill-sets and claims at being able to fix issues... These are the people currently in charge of these cities, the experts. When they are the heads of municipalities that are failing on almost every level, I see nowhere else to place the blame for poverty and crime. People have voted in Baltimore just like they do in Omaha, Portland and Savannah. Why are these select cities always at the bottom?..The collapse of the family?..Lack of value placed on education?.. No available jobs?

Or is it Democratic policies that continue to fail?

YOU tell me.


Skydog32103 - 7/30/2019 at 05:10 PM

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When they are the heads of municipalities that are failing on almost every level, I see nowhere else to place the blame for poverty and crime.


Careful buddy. You are describing hundreds, if not thousands, of Republican-led municipalities across americaís Heartland and South, in trailer park communities or low-income rural communities. Your scapegoat game is riddled with holes.


BIGV - 7/30/2019 at 07:31 PM

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When they are the heads of municipalities that are failing on almost every level, I see nowhere else to place the blame for poverty and crime.


Careful buddy. You are describing hundreds, if not thousands, of Republican-led municipalities across americaís Heartland and South, in trailer park communities or low-income rural communities. Your scapegoat game is riddled with holes.


Fair enough Pal. Then my point is leveled towards ALL municipalities where government is failing at the LOCAL level, it is not the responsibility of the Feds to accomplish these needs in which progress was promised by politicians regardless of which party is in the White House.

Chicago & Baltimore were the 2 cities mentioned that generated my initial response, both of which have Democratic leadership.


BIGV - 7/30/2019 at 07:57 PM

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Trump is a racist plain and simple, but you will deny that.


Well, you've stated it with emotion and passion, therefore it is a fact.

Let me ask you this, "Would you buy a house in one one of Baltimore's 'downtrodden' areas"?

You know, to show your support and to let everyone know you're not racist?

C'mon man, why not?..Property can be had for next to nuthin'!


Sang - 7/30/2019 at 08:27 PM

Jared's not selling.....


MartinD28 - 7/30/2019 at 09:15 PM

quote:
quote:
Trump is a racist plain and simple, but you will deny that.


Well, you've stated it with emotion and passion, therefore it is a fact.

Let me ask you this, "Would you buy a house in one one of Baltimore's 'downtrodden' areas"?

You know, to show your support and to let everyone know you're not racist?

C'mon man, why not?..Property can be had for next to nuthin'!


Well, if I was looking for property in Baltimore, maybe. Anybody on this site who has read my posts would know I'm a liberal, don't shy away from it, don't hedge my positions like some people on here, and am not a racist. My posts speak for themselves. As a matter of fact, part of my family is white and part is black. But thanks for asking.

What is more impressive is how you cherry pick lines and omit the lines of significance. Let me repeat the entire line from the original post for significance and perspective where I asked you a direct question. Maybe this time you'll tell us that Trump isn't a racist.

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Trump is a racist plain and simple, but you will deny that. I previously asked you if he was a racist, and you said no. I assume you still stick to that line?
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Re: Trump being a racist -

Why don't you check out what the latest poll speaks to Trump's racism. This is an astonishing % for a sitting President but well earned.


Half of American voters in a new poll say they consider President Trump to be racist, despite the president maintaining he is the "least racist person anywhere in the world."

The Quinnipiac University poll released Tuesday found that 51 percent of American voters said "yes" when asked if they thought Trump was racist, while 45 percent said "no."

Among African Americans, 80 percent said they consider Trump to be racist. Just 11 percent of African Americans said they do not think Trump is racist, according to the poll.

More than half of Latinos, 55 percent, said the president is racist, while 46 percent of white respondents said they agree that Trump is racist.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/455364-half-of-voters-say-trump -is-racist-poll


BIGV - 7/30/2019 at 09:42 PM

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re: Trump being a racist -

Why don't you check out what the latest poll speaks to Trump's racism. This is an astonishing % for a sitting President but well earned.


Half of American voters in a new poll say they consider President Trump to be racist, despite the president maintaining he is the "least racist person anywhere in the world."

The Quinnipiac University poll released Tuesday found that 51 percent of American voters said "yes" when asked if they thought Trump was racist, while 45 percent said "no."

Among African Americans, 80 percent said they consider Trump to be racist. Just 11 percent of African Americans said they do not think Trump is racist, according to the poll.

More than half of Latinos, 55 percent, said the president is racist, while 46 percent of white respondents said they agree that Trump is racist.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/455364-half-of-voters-say-trump -is-racist-poll


Polls prove nothing and are just like statistics, you believe Polls?..Good for you!...Talk about "Cherry picking"

Did you believe the Polls that had Hillary winning in a landslide?


KCJimmy - 7/30/2019 at 10:24 PM

Holy cow they are melting! Right here in the whipping post, snowflakes are melting!

quote:
Does Trump hold son in law Kushner accountable for massive code violations in Baltimore rental properties he owns?


quote:
Trump is a racist plain and simple, but you will deny that.
Because he criticized a black man? Really? That is called criticism. See a racist would say something like, "The real threat is white men...". Now THAT IS a racist statement made by a racist.

quote:
You gave up that privilege when you cast your vote for Trump.
Uh, no I didn't give up anything when I voted for Trump. And I will vote to re-elect him again. You people are helping him not hurting him. Won't need to accuse anyone in here of being "woke" that's for sure.




BIGV - 7/30/2019 at 10:33 PM

quote:
Trump is a racist plain and simple, but you will deny that.
Because he criticized a black man? Really? That is called criticism.


Not if you're a Liberal, it's racism, just look at the Polls.


Jerry - 7/30/2019 at 10:58 PM

quote:
Holy cow they are melting! Right here in the whipping post, snowflakes are melting!
quote:


KCJimmy, quit talking bad about the leftists here. They don't like to be called out.


Skydog32103 - 7/31/2019 at 12:22 AM

quote:
Now THAT IS a racist statement made by a racist.


quote:
Uh, no I didn't give up anything when I voted for Trump. And I will vote to re-elect him again. You people are helping him not hurting him. Won't need to accuse anyone in here of being "woke" that's for sure.


quote:
Holy cow they are melting! Right here in the whipping post, snowflakes are melting!


holy irony batman!


adhill58 - 7/31/2019 at 12:51 AM

Suppose Elijah Cummings or John Lewis or Barack Obama pointed out that Mitch McConnell represents a state where graduation rates are low, incest rates are high, and trailer park cockroaches die from all the meth-cooking fumes in the air.

Would Trump-defenders think this is okay? Just policy talk? Just stating the facts? Volunteer to move to a trailer park in Eastern Kentucky? Melt? Start bashing McConnell? Just say this is a completely normal way for our leaders to act?


BIGV - 7/31/2019 at 02:20 AM

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Suppose Elijah Cummings or John Lewis or Barack Obama pointed out that Mitch McConnell represents a state where graduation rates are low, incest rates are high, and trailer park cockroaches die from all the meth-cooking fumes in the air.


A) If the shoe fits....Maybe some truth there and definitely some bad local leadership at hand.

2) I certainly wouldn't call it "racist" just because a criticism was directed at someone with a different skin color, that's a Democrat thing.


Skydog32103 - 7/31/2019 at 03:14 AM

quote:
Suppose Elijah Cummings or John Lewis or Barack Obama pointed out that Mitch McConnell represents a state where graduation rates are low, incest rates are high, and trailer park cockroaches die from all the meth-cooking fumes in the air.

Would Trump-defenders think this is okay? Just policy talk? Just stating the facts? Volunteer to move to a trailer park in Eastern Kentucky? Melt? Start bashing McConnell? Just say this is a completely normal way for our leaders to act?


quote:
If the shoe fits


I canít use Obama as an example because we know he would never go there, but if Cummings said this while campaigning, Iíd want to do everything in my power to keep him as far away from Washington as possible. What a nightmare that would be.

Why on Earth would anyone accept this behavior for the President of the United States?


BIGV - 7/31/2019 at 03:25 AM

quote:
Why on Earth would anyone accept this behavior for the President of the United States?


Well the obvious answer according to the left is that 49.2% of the U.S is racist.


adhill58 - 7/31/2019 at 03:52 AM

quote:
quote:
Suppose Elijah Cummings or John Lewis or Barack Obama pointed out that Mitch McConnell represents a state where graduation rates are low, incest rates are high, and trailer park cockroaches die from all the meth-cooking fumes in the air.


A) If the shoe fits....Maybe some truth there and definitely some bad local leadership at hand.

2) I certainly wouldn't call it "racist" just because a criticism was directed at someone with a different skin color, that's a Democrat thing.


Point 2):

Are you saying Trump is a Democrat?... "ď...if racist Elijah Cummings would focus more of his energy on helping the good people of his district, and Baltimore itself, perhaps progress could be made in fixing the mess that he has helped to create." -Donald Trump via Twitter

Where's your insistence that that label is thrown around too loosely?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------

Separately,

This victim stuff is crazy coming from white people. I am white, and I am not necessarily directing this at anyone here personally, but white people in America are victims of very little. I am fully aware that it has been a huge advantage in my life in this country to look the way I look. If I was called a racist for acting like a racist and talking like a racist, I would not be a victim - I would be a racist.

I know Trump is praised for "telling it like it is", but this also "is": A real leader should be able to address the issues without sounding like a racist.

When even Fox News people are questioning whether you are a racist, you probably sound like a racist. This is where we are with the expected behavior of our president and millions of people are bragging about being okay with that.


Skydog32103 - 7/31/2019 at 04:05 AM

quote:
Well the obvious answer according to the left is that 49.2% of the U.S is racist.


Good grief enough obsessing over the left....what is your answer as to why the right accepts it?


adhill58 - 7/31/2019 at 04:08 AM

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quote:
Why on Earth would anyone accept this behavior for the President of the United States?


Well the obvious answer according to the left is that 49.2% of the U.S is racist.


Maybe it's not 49.2%, but it's way too high for the 21st century. I think if we have a president who wants to criticize a black congressman for what is wrong in black communities, white people should be expected to point out what's wrong with white people.

A lot of white people supporting a president who says that he is not bothered by having the support of white supremacists is what is wrong with a lot of white people.

A lot of white people who are bothered more by someone calling someone racist than they are by public displays of racism is what is wrong with a lot of white people.


BIGV - 7/31/2019 at 04:16 AM

quote:
I think if we have a president who wants to criticize a black congressman for what is wrong in black communities, white people should be expected to point out what's wrong with white people.


Not everything is about race, but leave it to the left, they will make it so.

I think we have a President who wants to criticize a congressman for what is wrong in communities where Democratic leadership has failed miserably.


Skydog32103 - 7/31/2019 at 12:25 PM

quote:
Not everything is about race, but leave it to the left, they will make it so.


Not everything is about political affiliation, but leave it to you, and you will make it so.

quote:
I think we have a President who wants to criticize a congressman for what is wrong in communities where Democratic leadership has failed miserably.


Do you want the next evil boogeyman Democrat president to act like this only towards red states and farm communities, and ignore cities like Chicago? You have conniptions on here every day over the latest trending Democrat in Washington, so imagine what your life would be like in 6 years if AOC becomes President and viciously attacks conservatism and all the poor Republican communities across America as "rodent infested where no human would want to live", in her high pitched voice. Imagine that (makes me cringe too). Now go ahead and root on Trump all you want.


BIGV - 7/31/2019 at 04:31 PM

quote:
You have conniptions on here every day over the latest trending Democrat in Washington


Every day someone here refers to the President as a Nazi

quote:
so imagine what your life would be like in 6 years if AOC becomes President


This country could never be that ignorant

quote:
and viciously attacks conservatism and all the poor Republican communities across America as "rodent infested where no human would want to live"


https://youtu.be/HPTg1wswhlg

Wanna live here?


Sang - 7/31/2019 at 06:19 PM

I base all my decisions on 12 second youtube clips from Fox.... lol

There are rats in every city - even in places like Alabama....


BIGV - 7/31/2019 at 06:26 PM

quote:
I base all my decisions on 12 second youtube clips from Fox.... lol

There are rats in every city - even in places like Alabama....


Pretty hilarious "coincidence"...


Skydog32103 - 7/31/2019 at 06:35 PM

quote:
Every day someone here refers to the President as a Nazi


and you willfully join in on the fun.

quote:
This country could never be that ignorant


to have higher expectations for a congressperson than for president of the united states is as stupid as it gets, but maybe i'm just crazy.

quote:
Wanna live here?


not interested in clicking on any youtube video links, sorry. but I imagine it's a video of a pretty nasty part of Baltimore? And if that's the case, then no. why would anyone in our situations want to live there? So you posted a video of a bad neighborhood....what is your point? I'd ask the same question if a liberal posted a youtube video of a trailer park to make some point about republicans. that's special ed level sh*t right there.


BIGV - 7/31/2019 at 07:42 PM

quote:
So you posted a video of a bad neighborhood....what is your point?


Isn't that whole idea?...That Baltimore has had the same Congressional representation in the name of Rep. Elijah Cummings for TWENTY THREE YEARS and look at the place, poverty, filth and crime....

Any argument in his defense would have some validity had he just been elected, but he's been there for 23 years and the people of his district keep voting for him.

Whose fault is that?

Yet the President is accused of "Racism" for having the audacity to criticize the man and his lack of ability to help his constituents....


Skydog32103 - 7/31/2019 at 08:45 PM

quote:
That Baltimore has had the same Congressional representation in the name of Rep. Elijah Cummings for TWENTY THREE YEARS and look at the place, poverty, filth and crime....

Any argument in his defense would have some validity had he just been elected, but he's been there for 23 years and the people of his district keep voting for him.

Whose fault is that?


i wouldn't blame a politician for a meth-riddled trailer park community, nor would i blame a politican for a crime-ridden ghetto. an idiot does that.

quote:
Yet the President is accused of "Racism" for having the audacity to criticize the man and his lack of ability to help his constituents....


how phony. today you expect the government to "help its constituents" and tomorrow you'll cry about a lack of personal accountability among the people of Baltimore, whatever is most convenient. i guess you get off selling a bunch of b.s. to left-wingers on here or something?

who here buys this crap?


BIGV - 7/31/2019 at 09:04 PM

quote:
Yet the President is accused of "Racism" for having the audacity to criticize the man and his lack of ability to help his constituents....


how phony. today you expect the government to "help its constituents" and tomorrow you'll cry about a lack of personal accountability among the people of Baltimore, whatever is most convenient.


You are so close. I say "help its constituents" on the local levels, First. City councils, Supervisors, Congress, State Senates, Mayors. This has ZERO to do with the White House, it is about LOCALLY elected officials FAILING on all levels. The personal responsibility aspect has everything to do with how people cast their votes at the local level. Ignorance is NO excuse. Do you know who your representatives are locally?...I doubt it. You have terrible representation locally?...People who've been in office for 23 years and continue to win?...Please, the blame lays squarely on the voters of Baltimore for continuing to place people in Power who do NOTHING at the LOCAL level. "Racism" is a fraudulent claim when PEOPLE. regardless of their skin color absolutely REFUSE to help themselves and others think yelling "RACIST" is going to benefit them in any way, shape or form.


adhill58 - 8/1/2019 at 02:20 AM

Out of courtesy to those who are upset when Trump is called a racist, I want to offer a different line:

Trump is a scumbag who is incapable of human decency unless it is forced upon him by his handlers.

No charges of racism in that one, just clear observation. Surely we can all agree to that.


BIGV - 8/1/2019 at 02:34 AM

quote:
Out of courtesy to those who are upset when Trump is called a racist


Just to be clear and to express my point one more time, I do not become "upset" when the President is called a racist, I laugh out loud that it has become a Liberal rallying point. Too many thoughts that ..."upset" the Leftist agenda are so easily labeled as being racist. No one and I repeat, NO ONE sees color and makes it an issue faster than a Democrat.

Are you watching the "debate"?.....The topics are laughable. $1,000 a month to everyone in the USA, No choice on Health insurance, just coverage for everyone. Biden should wear Boxing gloves to these events. The earth is 12 years away from destruction. Everyone on that stage "Has a plan" and then they tell a story about a relative...OMG. There is more empathy and sympathy on that stage for people seeking "asylum" than the Vets who sleep on the streets and the Kids in this country who've lived half their lives in orphanages. So much emotion directed in such weird directions.

If the Democratic leaderships madness continues, The President will laugh his way back to the White House. Wake the F*** up people.


Skydog32103 - 8/1/2019 at 12:39 PM

quote:
So much emotion directed in such weird directions.


take a look in the mirror.


BrerRabbit - 8/1/2019 at 05:29 PM

quote:
Raise your hand if you want to
"Send Her Back".


okay


BIGV - 8/1/2019 at 05:49 PM

quote:
quote:
So much emotion directed in such weird directions.


take a look in the mirror.


OK


Now, if only the left who screams consistently about the conditions at the border would take a look at inner city plight, we might get somewhere. Here are the Democrats debating about an open border when citizens of the USA are living in conditions that no one here would dare consider.....

Priorities.


gina - 8/2/2019 at 12:10 AM

Oh boy, she went to Ghana with Pelosi, instead of her homeland Somalia, can't wait for the sarcasm tweet that will come.

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/ilhan-omar-nancy-pelosi-ghana-225133693.html



[Edited on 8/2/2019 by gina]


BrerRabbit - 8/2/2019 at 03:05 AM

Ghana With the Wind


BIGV - 8/2/2019 at 03:24 AM

quote:
Ghana With the Wind


She's Ghana wish she hadn't done that


BrerRabbit - 8/2/2019 at 05:33 AM

Why, is she up to no good in Ghana? Should we be concerned? I have no idea why she went there.


LUKE - 8/15/2019 at 11:44 PM

Hat's off to BB for keepin My Sheet Omar & far eyed Gilda Tilba outta Israel.


BIGV - 8/16/2019 at 02:52 AM

quote:
Hat's off to BB for keepin My Sheet Omar & far eyed Gilda Tilba outta Israel.


See, the left will argue that a difference of opinion is good and that they should have been allowed to enter Israel......


Bhawk - 8/16/2019 at 03:37 AM

If Israel doesnít want to allow our elected officials to enter their country, then they can stop accepting the over $3 billion a year in aid provided to them by our government.


Bhawk - 8/16/2019 at 03:38 AM

quote:
Oh boy, she went to Ghana with Pelosi, instead of her homeland Somalia, can't wait for the sarcasm tweet that will come.

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/ilhan-omar-nancy-pelosi-ghana-225133693.html



[Edited on 8/2/2019 by gina]


Now do all the Republicans that keep going to Russia.


BIGV - 8/16/2019 at 03:55 AM

quote:
If Israel doesnít want to allow our elected officials to enter their country, then they can stop accepting the over $3 billion a year in aid provided to them by our government.


Tell me if you can, why you respect Omar and Tlaib?...What have they represented to their fellow duly elected officials and the people they represent that you agree with? I am not referencing their right to expression and rhetoric, I am asking about specific policy.


BrerRabbit - 8/16/2019 at 02:52 PM

quote:
I am asking about specific policy.


You never give specific answers when asked direct questions but you expect specific answers from others. Muleman used to do the exact same thing.

How about you ante up, get ball rolling - list a few specific policies of Omar and Tlaib that you do not respect, then ask folks to counter with policies of Omar and Tlaib that they respect.


BIGV - 8/16/2019 at 02:58 PM

quote:
quote:
I am asking about specific policy.


You never give specific answers when asked direct questions but you expect specific answers from others. Muleman used to do the exact same thing.

How about you ante up, get ball rolling - list a few specific policies of Omar and Tlaib that you do not respect, then ask folks to counter with policies of Omar and Tlaib that they respect.


So "Dropping yourself to your opponents level" is your answer? Roughly translated (Neener, neener)

Typical


BrerRabbit - 8/16/2019 at 03:10 PM

You are just trolling


BrerRabbit - 8/16/2019 at 03:14 PM

quote:
So "Dropping yourself to your opponents level" is your answer? Roughly translated (Neener, neener)

Typical


This is just pointless aggro bullsh*t


Bhawk - 8/16/2019 at 04:35 PM

quote:
quote:
If Israel doesnít want to allow our elected officials to enter their country, then they can stop accepting the over $3 billion a year in aid provided to them by our government.


Tell me if you can, why you respect Omar and Tlaib?...What have they represented to their fellow duly elected officials and the people they represent that you agree with? I am not referencing their right to expression and rhetoric, I am asking about specific policy.


Nah. Iíve had enough one-sided conversations with you over the years, Vince.

Besides, I never stated anything about Omar and Tlaib. You did. My sentiment stands.


BIGV - 8/16/2019 at 07:31 PM

quote:
You are just trolling


No, it is not. I have an opinion that differs greatly from many here and see zero point in arguing. I am not ever going to argue senselessly just to make others here happy. When was the last time anyone here ever changed the other's political take?...Never?..I post thoughts and as I've stated many times before, "Don't like it"...fine. Respond or not, I don't care. Answer my inquiry or don't, I do not care.


BrerRabbit - 8/16/2019 at 08:49 PM

Aggro bullsh*t


BrerRabbit - 8/16/2019 at 09:04 PM

Over it.


Bhawk - 8/17/2019 at 03:48 PM

Ironically, anyone who canít stop typing ďI donít careĒ most certainly cares.

Projection is a thing, yo.


blackey - 8/18/2019 at 05:42 PM

I think Bill Maher on HBO got it exactly right on the two Muslim congresswomen. Bill spanked their anti-Israel butts good.

Maher is an atheist and can smell religious extremism and bigotry a mile away.

Let these women start with Iran or Saudia Arabia where there isn't any freedom of religion and gays are executed. Women can't drive a car and people of other faiths and atheists and agnostics are considered dirty infidels.

These women do not support a two state solution. They want the Jews out of Palestine. NEVER! The Jewish state is eternal and America will guarantee that.


BIGV - 8/18/2019 at 06:39 PM

quote:
I think Bill Maher on HBO got it exactly right on the two Muslim congresswomen. Bill spanked their anti-Israel butts good.

Maher is an atheist and can smell religious extremism and bigotry a mile away.

Let these women start with Iran or Saudia Arabia where there isn't any freedom of religion and gays are executed. Women can't drive a car and people of other faiths and atheists and agnostics are considered dirty infidels.

These women do not support a two state solution. They want the Jews out of Palestine. NEVER! The Jewish state is eternal and America will guarantee that.


Uh oh. Here comes the liberal response, with no regard to content; :"They are elected officials who can say whatever they please"...

Yes, they certainly can. But do you agree with them?


Bhawk - 8/18/2019 at 10:53 PM

quote:
quote:
I think Bill Maher on HBO got it exactly right on the two Muslim congresswomen. Bill spanked their anti-Israel butts good.

Maher is an atheist and can smell religious extremism and bigotry a mile away.

Let these women start with Iran or Saudia Arabia where there isn't any freedom of religion and gays are executed. Women can't drive a car and people of other faiths and atheists and agnostics are considered dirty infidels.

These women do not support a two state solution. They want the Jews out of Palestine. NEVER! The Jewish state is eternal and America will guarantee that.


Uh oh. Here comes the liberal response, with no regard to content; :"They are elected officials who can say whatever they please"...

Yes, they certainly can. But do you agree with them?


Didnít you just say that you didnít care if people answer your questions or not?

Hereís a question...do you seriously think that much of yourself that you believe that only you can ask questions, and are above answering questions yourself? It repeatedly seems to be the case, regardless of topic.


BrerRabbit - 8/18/2019 at 11:35 PM

quote:
I think Bill Maher on HBO got it exactly right on the two Muslim congresswomen. Bill spanked their anti-Israel butts good.


Gotta agree with Bill Maher on this one - he speaks for himself and is a solid liberal rationalist - these gals aren't going to get much traction if they keep playing this ludicrous "feminist-muslim" game. It is clumsy and transparent. "Feminist-muslim," about as oxymoronic and silly as other freak mutations of modern politics like say "Compassionate Conservative" , or "Trumpster for Womens' Rights"

[Edited on 8/18/2019 by BrerRabbit]


BIGV - 8/19/2019 at 05:35 AM

quote:
Didnít you just say that you didnít care if people answer your questions or not?


That would be nothing short of absolutely correct. I don't give 2 sh*ts. But here's the other side, don't hide behind the curtain claiming that someone else's behavior excuses yours, there is no better explanation out there for being a Chicken Sh*t. Either you believe these two ***holes stand for what is right, or they do not. You know where I stand.

I will ask again "But do you agree with them?"

Dodge all you want, but don't you dare accuse me of the exact same thing you are doing.


BrerRabbit - 8/19/2019 at 03:18 PM

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Either you believe these two ***holes stand for what is right, or they do not. You know where I stand.


I agree with some of their ideas ,certainly not all. They are pretty much no-count anyway; I have more worthwile things to think about than idiots in Congress.

Do you believe that Gary Johnson stands for what is right? You know where I stand.


Skydog32103 - 8/19/2019 at 06:12 PM

quote:
Dodge all you want, but don't you dare accuse me of the exact same thing you are doing.


Then may we accuse you of being the worldís biggest jacka$$ that is desperate for attention?


BIGV - 8/19/2019 at 06:46 PM

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quote:
Dodge all you want, but don't you dare accuse me of the exact same thing you are doing.


Then may we accuse you of being the worldís biggest jacka$$ that is desperate for attention?


If that makes your day, knock yourself out.


BrerRabbit - 8/19/2019 at 07:25 PM

quote:
Either you believe these two ***holes stand for what is right, or they do not. You know where I stand.


I am in agreement with Gary Johnson, are you? Either this Johnson ***hole stands for what is right or he does not. You know where I stand.

I repeat - DO YOU AGREE WITH THIS JOHNSON ***HOLE?

Nice little Gary Johnson meltdown defending immigrants here, which I fully agree with btw https://youtu.be/-EywVvPL7As







[Edited on 8/19/2019 by BrerRabbit]


BIGV - 8/19/2019 at 07:59 PM

quote:
I repeat - DO YOU AGREE WITH THIS JOHNSON ***HOLE?


Not on this issue, I do not.

NO Political party is a perfect fit.


BIGV - 8/19/2019 at 08:07 PM









BrerRabbit - 8/19/2019 at 08:09 PM

quote:
Either you believe these two ***holes stand for what is right, or they do not. You know where I stand.



quote:
Not on this issue, I do not.

NO Political party is a perfect fit.


BIGV - 8/19/2019 at 08:11 PM

quote:
quote:
Either you believe these two ***holes stand for what is right, or they do not. You know where I stand.



quote:
Not on this issue, I do not.

NO Political party is a perfect fit.



What exactly does this prove?


BrerRabbit - 8/19/2019 at 08:35 PM

quote:
What exactly does this prove?


It proves that you apply a double standard to your opponents. By your reasoning, they are either totally right or wrong and cannot be both in the opinion of their supporters. You demand that we state for or against with no in between, while relaxing the rules for yourself and cherry picking ideas from people you support like Johnson.

And that proves plenty, on many levels, as regards your social motivations, integrity, and agenda.


BIGV - 8/19/2019 at 09:28 PM

quote:
cherry picking ideas from people you support like Johnson


I Voted for Gary Johnson because I vote a straight Libertarian ticket whenever they are on the ballot. In voting for GJ, I was most certainly participating in the process while also voting against HC.

Make no mistake, on the Immigration issue, I do side with the President.


Skydog32103 - 8/19/2019 at 10:16 PM

quote:
You demand that we state for or against with no in between, while relaxing the rules for yourself


He knows.


Bhawk - 8/22/2019 at 05:51 PM

quote:
quote:
Didnít you just say that you didnít care if people answer your questions or not?


That would be nothing short of absolutely correct. I don't give 2 sh*ts. But here's the other side, don't hide behind the curtain claiming that someone else's behavior excuses yours, there is no better explanation out there for being a Chicken Sh*t. Either you believe these two ***holes stand for what is right, or they do not. You know where I stand.

I will ask again "But do you agree with them?"

Dodge all you want, but don't you dare accuse me of the exact same thing you are doing.


Pretty testy for a guy that doesn't care.

Do I agree with them? Omar and Tlaib? Some of the things they have said, yes, many other things, no. So what?

I'll go even further, there's a lot of other things that have been said...and I don't care one way or the other! Imagine that!

I haven't put nearly the same amount of weight in the comments that they and other freshman Congress members have made that you and others have.

I will also say...from Omar to Tlaib to Steve King, regardless of party, any country (and fellow democracy, no less) that willingly accepts aid from the United States should not deny the entry of any Federally elected official into their country, period.

My opinion, and if it hurts your fee fees, I really don't care, do u?

Be Best!


Jerry - 8/22/2019 at 07:14 PM

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[Edited on 8/19/2019 by BrerRabbit]


Illegal is, as defined, illegal. Either you came into the country by illegal means, or you followed the laws and came in legally.

Those who came to the borders asking for sanctuary as refugees are allowed to speak their piece for why they should be allowed sanctuary, then wait in the designated holding areas until the hearing to determine if sanctuary is to be granted is held.

Illegals are not "undocumented" except in the fact that they chose to not document their arrival.


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