Thread: France's Green Agenda reaches tipping point

OriginalGoober - 12/5/2018 at 03:24 AM



Macron is realizing that its dangerous game to pursue a Green agenda on the backs of the working poor. People were literally starving because of high taxes and low wages causing food to run out before the end of the month for many of the working poor. They finally have had enough and this revolt is far from over, even though Macron pulled back a hefty gas tax increase.

https://www.economist.com/europe/2018/12/03/emmanuel-macron-faces-the-tough est-test-of-his-presidency


BoytonBrother - 12/5/2018 at 02:09 PM

The smoking gun proof everyone. Weve been wrong all along. Goober has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that liberal values are bad and wrong. Im glad we can finally put this to bed.


PhotoRon286 - 12/5/2018 at 07:23 PM

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The smoking gun proof everyone. Weve been wrong all along. Goober has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that liberal values are bad and wrong. Im glad we can finally put this to bed.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!


2112 - 12/5/2018 at 08:35 PM

If they would have just invested in coal powered cars instead, France would be so much better off.


2112 - 12/5/2018 at 08:44 PM

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Macron is realizing that its dangerous game to pursue a Green agenda on the backs of the working poor. People were literally starving because of high taxes and low wages causing food to run out before the end of the month for many of the working poor. They finally have had enough and this revolt is far from over, even though Macron pulled back a hefty gas tax increase.

https://www.economist.com/europe/2018/12/03/emmanuel-macron-faces-the-tough est-test-of-his-presidency




Did you even read the article you linked to? That article does not talk about a Green agenda at all. It talks about the unrest being caused by tax cuts for the wealthy while the poor and middle class face increased taxes. Sound familiar? It does to me.


nebish - 12/5/2018 at 11:15 PM

Seems to be a host of things. Overall economic policy, but also that with the efforts to address climate change...higher taxes on fuel, natural gas and electricity costs and tougher vehicle emission standards. It's one thing for political leaders to advocate and legislate these things in their bubbles, it is another for the people that are actually impacted by the costs and burdens of them.


OriginalGoober - 12/6/2018 at 03:18 AM

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The smoking gun proof everyone. Weve been wrong all along. Goober has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that liberal values are bad and wrong. Im glad we can finally put this to bed.



The smug indifference of today's liberal, they know best! Dodging the result from pursuit of a liberal ideaology in a socialist state.


2112 - 12/6/2018 at 04:05 AM

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quote:
The smoking gun proof everyone. Weve been wrong all along. Goober has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that liberal values are bad and wrong. Im glad we can finally put this to bed.



The smug indifference of today's liberal, they know best! Dodging the result from pursuit of a liberal ideaology in a socialist state.


Cutting taxes on the rich and raising taxes on the poor is liberal ideaology? I must have missed that part in liberal school.


BrerRabbit - 12/6/2018 at 04:12 AM

Whatever their differences, the French left and right agree that Trump is incompetent.


Bhawk - 12/7/2018 at 05:38 PM

A. The French remain the best protesters. In a way, they kinda founded the concept. They will take to the streets when they seem fit and have, many times.
B. There seems to be contradictions on the view and sanctity of protests and "revolts," depending on how one can project their personal/American political bias on other parts of the globe. Gee, how shocking.


BoytonBrother - 12/7/2018 at 05:41 PM

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The smug indifference of today's liberal, they know best! Dodging the result from pursuit of a liberal ideaology in a socialist state.


Only a fool would think that I, or anyone, can speak for an entire political ideology.


BrerRabbit - 12/7/2018 at 11:20 PM

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The French remain the best protesters. In a way, they kinda founded the concept


France seems to be resisting the anaesthetic that has made the rest of Western Civilization comfortably numb.


nebish - 12/8/2018 at 05:59 AM

One of the main things they are resisting, and a primary cause initially, is higher taxes on fuel when fuel is already high. A gallon equivalent of diesel in France is $6.84 US dollars (1L $1.51 Euro)

And like any protest, there are opportunists that show up that just want to fight and make things ugly. There are all types of people protesting at this point, some with the cause they originally took to the streets for, others just want anarchy.


gina - 12/8/2018 at 06:05 PM

They pay 50% of their money for taxes, and for that they expect reasonable services.


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