Thread: I agree with Gregg Popovich on what NBA has become

robslob - 11/30/2018 at 02:00 PM

https://sports.yahoo.com/gregg-popovich-hates-nba-threes-now-theres-no-beau ty-pretty-boring-002113593.html

I also have thought this for years: The three pointer has done a lot to ruin the game. If a 6'10" forward maneuvers in the lane, puts on some fancy moves against a very tough 6'10" defender, then throws up a hook shot over him that hits nothing but net, do you really mean to tell me that this basket is worth one point less than someone throwing up a 25 foot jump shot? I'm not buying that and I never did. I'd love it if the NBA discarded the three point shot and went back to more traditional basketball.


kevdab - 11/30/2018 at 03:40 PM

X2
I'm a Celtics fan since the 60's. It's hard to watch some nights.


leafsfan - 11/30/2018 at 05:33 PM

Basketball is stupid.


BIGV - 11/30/2018 at 05:43 PM

3 and a half steps to the hoop, changing pivot feet, carrying the ball.

I stopped watching and caring 20 years ago.


piacere - 11/30/2018 at 06:25 PM

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3 and a half steps to the hoop, changing pivot feet, carrying the ball.

I stopped watching and caring 20 years ago.


26 years for me. I quit watching and caring when Bird retired.


Stephen - 1/14/2019 at 01:33 PM

Yet there is great talent in the league too, particularly among the big men nowadays -- Nikola J of Denver is the best player in the league IMO, a 7-foot triple double threat every game (40/10/8 last night) -- same Giannis -- Embiid, Kanter (when w/a decent team) -- AD, Rudy Gobert etc etc

Cousins last year also -- he, LeBron & Rajon all return this month -- GSW was amazing w/Bogut, Zaza & those centers -- a starting 5 of DeM., Curry Thompson Durant & Draymond Green -- on paper there's no match in the league

EXCEPT IN BOSTON -- we're fine, will pass Phila soon -- we can beat GSW
The Markelle/Melo mysteries meander on:yawn:


[Edited on 1/14/2019 by Stephen]


BoytonBrother - 1/14/2019 at 03:35 PM

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26 years for me. I quit watching and caring when Bird retired.


Jordan and Magic didn’t do it for you, huh? Seems odd to stop watching and caring during that legendary era.


BoytonBrother - 1/14/2019 at 03:40 PM

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The three pointer has done a lot to ruin the game. If a 6'10" forward maneuvers in the lane, puts on some fancy moves against a very tough 6'10" defender, then throws up a hook shot over him that hits nothing but net, do you really mean to tell me that this basket is worth one point less than someone throwing up a 25 foot jump shot? I'm not buying that and I never did. I'd love it if the NBA discarded the three point shot and went back to more traditional basketball.


You have to consider that every business must evolve its product in order to succeed. The 3-pointer adds much-needed value to the game, as does the dunk. With attracting new customers, your business will die. I understand not liking it, but it’s inevitable, and happening in all sports - some changes I think are for the better.


tbomike - 1/14/2019 at 03:46 PM

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26 years for me. I quit watching and caring when Bird retired.


Jordan and Magic didn’t do it for you, huh? Seems odd to stop watching and caring during that legendary era.


Well in the interest of accuracy except for the 32 game return 4 years later Magic retired before Bird but I agree with your point in any event.


BoytonBrother - 1/16/2019 at 11:43 AM

If you quit a sport because one player retired, you were never a fan of that sport, but rather a fan of the player. Nothing wrong with that. I wonder why Larry Bird though, and no interest in Michael Jordan? The best player ever?


jszfunk - 1/16/2019 at 06:38 PM

GS dropped 51 last night in first quarter and 142 for the game.
Pacers had 131 yesterday.


BIGV - 1/16/2019 at 08:12 PM

I played 1 year of JC ball (I am 6'-4") and coached for a while after that; understand the nuances of the game very well. When I was younger and really into the pro-game, older folks would tell me I need only watch the first 5 minutes and the last 5, to see the whole game, I vehemently disagreed. Now, I could not agree more, bores me to tears.

Add, what could possibly happen in a Pro game you've never seen before?


piacere - 1/31/2019 at 04:06 PM

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If you quit a sport because one player retired, you were never a fan of that sport, but rather a fan of the player. Nothing wrong with that. I wonder why Larry Bird though, and no interest in Michael Jordan? The best player ever?


I was looked at by 5 colleges/universities when I was a junior in HS. I'm 6'7" and could SHOOT. I was a hoops fan since I was 12. Followed all sports Boston/New England religiously so Bird wasn't necessarily the reason why I watched, just using him as a reference point in time. As I get older, pro sports has, for me anyway, become boring, 'cept maybe football

Heh heh...


robslob - 2/8/2019 at 01:06 AM

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EXCEPT IN BOSTON -- we're fine, will pass Phila soon -- we can beat GSW


You're wishful Stephen..........we'll see about that one.

I should say we'll see about it.........IF Boston makes it to the championship. Philly just got a LOT deeper and their roster is looking every bit as good as yours...........you've got a very tough row to hoe now.


Stephen - 2/8/2019 at 03:06 AM

No tougher than it was before -- I'm more worried about Mil and Tor than Phila


robslob - 2/8/2019 at 04:03 AM

Big, BIG win tonight for the Lakers including a great comeback. This will do wonders for their confidence as will getting LeBron back. Especially sweet after a 42 point loss in Indiana a few days ago amidst all the trade rumors regarding Anthony Davis.


jszfunk - 2/8/2019 at 06:25 AM

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Big, BIG win tonight for the Lakers including a great comeback. This will do wonders for their confidence as will getting LeBron back. Especially sweet after a 42 point loss in Indiana a few days ago amidst all the trade rumors regarding Anthony Davis.


It was nice to see the Pacers give LeBron this worse beating of his career .

I wonder how much dissension James caused in the locker room when he tried to trade everyone for AD and what he (Davis)is doing to the Pelicans. The NBA amazes me in so many ways

[Edited on 2/8/2019 by jszfunk]


Stephen - 3/12/2019 at 10:21 PM

If the NBA has become a league where players get fined for having racist garbage yelled at them from drunken fans -- that's gone pretty far down the toilet IMO -- it's hard to believe they fined Russell Westbrook $25,000 for refusing to take this trash -- yes the Jazz did the right thing by permanently banishing the slimeballs, but it's them, the trash, that should've been fined the $25G, not Westbrook

[Edited on 3/12/2019 by Stephen]


BoytonBrother - 3/13/2019 at 12:15 PM

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If the NBA has become a league where players get fined for having racist garbage yelled at them from drunken fans -- that's gone pretty far down the toilet IMO -- it's hard to believe they fined Russell Westbrook $25,000 for refusing to take this trash -- yes the Jazz did the right thing by permanently banishing the slimeballs, but it's them, the trash, that should've been fined the $25G, not Westbrook


The fan surely deserves to be banned, but a player should simply alert security and have him removed....not sink to his level and threaten a woman physically who had nothing to do with it. For doing that, Westbrook is now no better than the fan, IMO. My wife is of color, and we had some idiot make racist comments right to her face just this past weekend, and we ignored him and walked away.


Stephen - 3/14/2019 at 01:01 AM

No disrespect, but can't disagree more that Westbrook standing up for his self-dignity in the face of ongoing verbal abuse, sinks him to the level of the fan -- players are within easy earshot of fans -- Westbrook said he's taken the high road more than once -- but when somebody is challenging you -- even when it's an obvious chicken **** like the Utah fan -- there's only so much you can listen to
The league really ought to monitor fan behavior more closely, it'd seem

[Edited on 3/14/2019 by Stephen]


robslob - 3/14/2019 at 04:14 AM

I have to agree with Stephen on this. Just HOW much can we expect a player to take? When some A-Hole is within direct earshot, saying things like, "Get down on your knees like you're used to".............hey, I can't blame ANY player for responding to that. And security? Well, just WHERE were they? You expect Westbrook to have the responsibility for directing them towards this behavior? No, ain't buying it. The Jazz did the right thing in banning the guy, but I wish the NBA would rescind Westbrook's fine.

On to more positive things (at least for me): Huge win in Houston for the Warriors tonight..........really tight ballgame, 108-106 was the final if I'm not mistaken. Kevin Durant did not play. Houston was 3-0 against us this year, so this was a very important game. Let me add that DeMarcus Cousins had easily his biggest game of the year and he looks like he is really getting his Mojo back after a career-threatening injury. Cousins' line tonight: 27 points, 8 rebounds, 7 assists. And he is making the kind of moves that used to make one marvel at how a 7 footer can do such things. Played some damn good defense as well. He obviously knew he had to come up big with Durant out. And Andrew Bogut is coming back, so by playoff time the Warriors may be VERY strong at the center position.


BoytonBrother - 3/14/2019 at 11:22 AM

Good points. I’m ok with responding to the fan, and fine with cursing him out , but he said, “i’ll F up you and your wife.” Sorry, but that’s not an appropriate reaction to “get down on your knees”, which sounds to me like more of a sexual diss rather than racial. An “F you a-hole” would’ve been fine with me, but he went too far IMO. I'm probably a little biased - I never liked the guy's attitude.



[Edited on 3/14/2019 by BoytonBrother]


Bhawk - 3/14/2019 at 03:52 PM

I'm a season ticket holder for Sporting KC, our MLS team. We sit/stand in the second row by one of the corners where the opposing team subs warm-up and where corner kicks are taken. At any point in a match I (and a few hundred others in the immediate area, we sell out every game) am close to those opposing players, as in twenty feet away. The things that people yell at those guys blow me away. It's given me such a huge perspective as to what you have to accept if you are going to make a living as a professional athlete...people that buy a ticket feel entitled to say whatever they feel like saying or yelling. It's not that they can't hear, I see players react all the time. Some even look up into the stands.

Is it right if a player reacts? Two sides to that. Should a player accept anything yelled at him or her? Maybe. Can I blame a player (in the end, just another human being) for an extreme reaction to an extreme insult?

Nope.


jszfunk - 3/14/2019 at 07:44 PM

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“get down on your knees”, which sounds to me like more of a sexual diss rather than racial.



[Edited on 3/14/2019 by BoytonBrother]


That's what I thought at first, but I guess it can be taken racial too. I heard the fan give his side of the story the day after.


I live in the Indy area and I remember watching this live. It was unbelievable.....


https://youtube.com/watch?v=Jj0CX8yEno0


robslob - 3/17/2019 at 02:31 PM

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/klay-thompson-spends-night-inside-051143552.ht ml

When you factor in what he does on the defensive end, Klay Thompson may just be the MVP of the NBA. Russell Westbrook is 7 for 31 in two games this year with Klay guarding him. Last night Westbrook was so frustrated that he gave Klay a hard chest bump resulting in a technical foul.


jszfunk - 3/17/2019 at 05:40 PM

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https://www.yahoo.com/sports/klay-thompson-spends-night-inside-051143 552.html

When you factor in what he does on the defensive end, Klay Thompson may just be the MVP of the NBA. Russell Westbrook is 7 for 31 in two games this year with Klay guarding him. Last night Westbrook was so frustrated that he gave Klay a hard chest bump resulting in a technical foul.

I agree. I like Klay. Just imagine the numbers he could put up if he was on another team. Hopefully the Pacers can get the deal signed with him this summer.


robslob - 3/17/2019 at 07:17 PM

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I agree. I like Klay. Just imagine the numbers he could put up if he was on another team. Hopefully the Pacers can get the deal signed with him this summer.


Horror of Horrors! Don't even SAY such things!!


jszfunk - 3/17/2019 at 08:48 PM

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I agree. I like Klay. Just imagine the numbers he could put up if he was on another team. Hopefully the Pacers can get the deal signed with him this summer.


Horror of Horrors! Don't even SAY such things!!


Ha! It would never happen, but it would be nice. There are a just a handful of teams in the league where the elite players want to be and none of them are here in the Midwest.
Oh well, just have to plug along and do it the old fashioned way.


Stephen - 4/13/2019 at 04:50 PM

Yep they've done that -- the old fashioned way -- a good series lies ahead -- one that would've been great with Victor Olapido, Pacers top scorer, & Marcus Smart, our top defender -- Marcus is a hard-nosed, heady player, the row to hoe is for sure longer now

Like the move of starting Aron & bringing Marcus Morris off the bench -- somebody tho will have to fill that defensive void in the backcourt -- again, should be a very good series btween 2 Even-match units --

Marcus or no, we showed we were comfortable on their floor last week in a good win
D & Our Depth will be key -- let's go Celts

[Edited on 4/13/2019 by Stephen]


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