Thread: College Football 2018

nebish - 5/22/2018 at 02:18 AM

Week 1 lines came out!

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[Edited on 12/4/2018 by nebish]


Bhawk - 5/22/2018 at 09:40 PM

I'll take OU to cover FAU.


nebish - 5/23/2018 at 12:39 AM

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I'll take OU to cover FAU.




I don't know. Coach Kiffin knows about point spreads, he has mentioned them in his post game press conferences and even tweeted them!

On a related note, naturally I am very happy that last week's Supreme Court decision opening the door for states to legalize sports gambling. We'll see if Congress does something either way, they want to have their hands in everything so we'll see.

Season win totals and games of year lines are not out yet, they should be out this week.

I really don't get serious about gearing up until mid summer, but it is coming. 94 days.


nebish - 6/12/2018 at 12:31 AM

Regular Season Over/Under Win Totals as of 6-11-18 from 5dimes.
https://www.5dimes.eu/livelines/livelines.aspx#al_3

South Point in Las Vegas released their's in late May, many have moved .5 and full games from then. These are current as of now.

At this early stage I am pretty interested in a few already.

Air Force 4.5
Akron 4.5
Alabama 11
App State 8.5
Arizona 7.5
Arizona State 4.5
Arkansas 5.5
Arkansas State 8.5
Army 7
Auburn 9
Ball State 4
Baylor 6
Boise State 10
Boston College 6
Bowling Green 4.5
Buffalo 6.5
BYU 5
California 6
Central Florida 9
Central Michigan 4.5
Charlotte 3.5
Cincinnati 5
Clemson 11
Coastal Carolina 4
Colorado 4.5
Colorado State 5.5
UConn 3
Duke 6.5
East Carolina 3.5
Eastern Michigan 5.5
Florida 7.5
Florida Atlantic 8.5
Florida International 5
Florida State 7.5
Fresno State 8
Georgia 10.5
Georgia Southern 5.5
Georgia State 4.5
Georgia Tech 5.5
Hawaii 3.5
Houston 8
Illinois 4
Indiana 5
Iowa 7.5
Iowa State 6.5
Kansas 3
Kansas 6
Kent State 2.5
Kentucky 5.5
Louisiana Tech 7
Louisville 7
LSU 7
Marshall 8
Maryland 5
UMass 5.5
Memphis 8.5
Miami, Fl 9.5
Miami, Oh 6.5
Michigan 9
Michigan State 9
Middle Tennessee 7
Minnesota 6
Mississippi 6
Mississippi State 8
Missouri 7.5
Navy 7
Nebraska 6
Nevada 6
New Mexico 4
New Mexico State 6
North Carolina 5.5
North Carolina State 7.5
North Texas 8
Northern Illinois 6.5
Northwestern 6
Notre Dame 8.5
Ohio 8.5
Ohio State 9.5
Oklahoma 10
Oklahoma State 8
Old Dominion 5
Oregon 8.5
Oregon State 2.5
Penn State 9.5
Pittsburgh 5
Purdue 6
Rice 3
Rutgers 4
San Diego State 8.5
San Jose State 2.5
SMU 5.5
South Alabama 4
South Carolina 7.5
South Florida 8.5
Southern Miss 6.5
Stanford 8
Syracuse 5.5
TCU 7.5
Temple 6.5
Tennessee 5.5
Texas 8.5
Texas A&M 7
Texas State 3.5
Texas Tech 6
Toledo 8
Troy 7.5
Tulane 5.5
Tulsa 4
UAB 7.5
UCLA 5.5
UL Lafayette 4.5
UL Monroe 5.5
UNLV 6
USC 8.5
Utah 7
Utah State 7.5
UTEP 2.5
UTSA 5
Vanderbilt 4.5
Virginia 5
Virginia Tech 7.5
Wake Forest 6.5
Washington 10.5
Washington State 6.5
West Virginia 7
Western Kentucky 5
Western Michigan 6
Wisconsin 10
Wyoming 6.5


StratDal - 6/12/2018 at 03:13 AM

Glad you mentioned the South Point Casino Nebish. I stayed there my last Vegas trip and for the money and location, it was a good time. It's a ways from the strip but saving that extra time Sunday morning was worth it. The pool is nice and the bartender made a decent Mai Tai.

As for 2018 college football, it's the usual suspects: Bama, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Clemson. The Caines will be tough but they'll lose a game they should win; that's CMR's track record. The team I think that will make some noise is Northwestern; coming off a 10-3 season with lots of returning players and the most under-rated coach in Pat Fitzgerald.

Out west, UW will be the team to beat. CCP is the best coach in the Pac12. As for my Bruins, their record will improve over last year but they'll get spanked in some games. I see 8-4 at best.

Here's to college football tailgates, the best parties ever!


nebish - 6/12/2018 at 12:01 PM

Nothing gets me more excited than looking at win totals although I am a month out from digging in.

PAC12 South is super intriguing this year.

NW and Iowa always seem to do better when expectations are low. Love Fitz. Hope Thorston is healthy. Wisconsin still rules the west but do travel to Evanston this year.

I placed a lot of bets at South Point and was impressed with it. They are the only Vegas sports book to post win totals for every team. I've walked, Ubered and took the train everywhere on the strip and South Point is the only one that has them all.


Lee - 6/12/2018 at 12:01 PM

I like Northwestern getting three against Purdue. Just to piss off my in laws who live right across the street from Purdue's stadium.


Lee - 6/12/2018 at 12:05 PM

Being from Michigan I follow The Big Ten of course. I can't see Michigan or State winning 10 games so probably take the under on both.


StratDal - 6/12/2018 at 03:25 PM

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I like Northwestern getting three against Purdue. Just to piss off my in laws who live right across the street from Purdue's stadium.


College football passion... it tops all others.


nebish - 6/15/2018 at 03:29 AM

New Jersey Governor makes first legal sports bet in the state!


Lee - 6/15/2018 at 01:59 PM

I think the thing about college football anticipation I don't like is the fact that it isn't even summer yet and we are already looking forward to fall.


nebish - 6/25/2018 at 03:36 PM

The 2018 Bible is in stores!


nebish - 7/20/2018 at 12:08 AM

Conference media days are upon us!

Fall camps are about to begin!

36 days until first kickoffs Saturday 8/25!
41 days until Thursday 8/30 games!
43 days until the first full Saturday of action!!!


StratDal - 7/20/2018 at 02:16 AM

Unfortunately I can't get the Pac12 Network (for all sorts of BS reasons and most of them rest with the conference). That being said, I had fun watching the SEC Media Days and related all this week. I enjoy listening to all the commentators and what they have to say.

To good times this fall!


nebish - 7/20/2018 at 11:20 AM

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Unfortunately I can't get the Pac12 Network (for all sorts of BS reasons and most of them rest with the conference). That being said, I had fun watching the SEC Media Days and related all this week. I enjoy listening to all the commentators and what they have to say.

To good times this fall!


My PAC12 Network solution was to have a family member out of state upgrade their cable package on Comcast to include some sports channels with the PAC12 Network and then I have their log-in so I can watch PAC12 Network through the Comcast or the PAC12 App. PAC12 Network and Big Ten Network are must haves!

Do you have Sirius/XM Strat? I listen to channel 84 ESPNU alot and they advertise PAC12 and SEC specific channels but I haven't tried those yet.


Lee - 7/20/2018 at 11:35 AM

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The 2018 Bible is in stores!





Having a hard time finding that particular issue since they are regional. That's the one I want because there's a Michigan player on the front.


nebish - 7/20/2018 at 12:20 PM

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Having a hard time finding that particular issue since they are regional. That's the one I want because there's a Michigan player on the front.


It's funny because people around here are questioning why no Ohio State player is on the cover.

Send me your address and I will mail you one from here with Gary on the cover.


nebish - 7/21/2018 at 12:01 AM

ACC Champion - 8/30/2018 8:00 PM (EST)
Clemson -187
Miami Florida +600
Florida State +1000
Virginia Tech +1400
Louisville +4000
NC State +4000
Georgia Tech +4000
Boston College +4200
Wake Forest +5000
Duke +5000
Syracuse +10000
Pittsburgh U +10000
North Carolina +13500
Virginia +30000

ACC Atlantic Winner - 8/30/2018 8:00 PM (EST)
Clemson -365
Florida State +715
Louisville +2300
NC State +2300
Boston College +2450
Wake Forest +2650
Syracuse +4100

ACC Coastal Winner - 8/30/2018 7:00 PM (EST)
Miami Florida +117
Virginia Tech +238
Georgia Tech +725
Duke +935
Pittsburgh U +1800
North Carolina +2500
Virginia +4300

American Athletic Champion - 8/30/2018 7:00 PM (EST)
Central Florida +137
Memphis +250
Houston U +625
South Florida +960
Navy +1350
Temple +2300
SMU +4000
Tulane +4000
Cincinnati U +5500
Tulsa +10000
Connecticut +30000
East Carolina +30000

Big 12 Champion - 8/30/2018 8:00 PM (EST)
Oklahoma +142
Texas +305
TCU +700
Oklahoma State +800
West Virginia +800
Iowa State +2500
Kansas State +3000
Texas Tech +4000
Baylor +6000
Kansas +80000

Big 12 Reach Championship Game - 8/30/2018 8:00 PM (EST)
Oklahoma -168
Texas +142
TCU +285
Oklahoma State +305
West Virginia +305
Iowa State +800
Kansas State +925
Texas Tech +1250
Baylor +1675
Kansas +19000

Big Ten Champion - 8/30/2018 7:00 PM (EST)
Ohio State +147
Wisconsin +300
Penn State +600
Michigan +600
Michigan State +1000
Iowa +4000
Nebraska +4000
Northwestern +5000
Purdue +8000
Minnesota U +9000
Indiana +25000
Maryland +25000
Rutgers +80000
Illinois +80000

Big Ten East Winner - 8/31/2018 7:00 PM (EST)
Ohio State +107
Penn State +370
Michigan +370
Michigan State +575
Indiana +11000
Maryland +11000
Rutgers +30000

Big Ten West Winner - 8/30/2018 7:00 PM (EST)
Wisconsin -237
Iowa +1050
Nebraska +1050
Northwestern +1150
Purdue +1450
Minnesota U +1525
Illinois +11000

Conference USA Champion - 8/25/2018 7:00 PM (EST)
Florida Atlantic -113
Marshall +495
Louisiana Tech +800
Middle Tennessee +1000
North Texas +1200
UAB +2000
Southern Miss +3000
Old Dominion +3500
UTSA +5000
Western Kentucky +8000
Florida International +10000
Charlotte +30000
Rice +50000
UTEP +75000

Mid-American Champion - 8/30/2018 7:00 PM (EST)
Ohio +320
Northern Illinois +320
Toledo +400
Western Michigan +700
Miami Ohio +900
Buffalo +1200
Eastern Michigan +1500
Akron +3000
Bowling Green +4000
Central Michigan +4500
Ball State +10000
Kent State +12500

Mountain West Champion - 8/25/2018 7:30 PM (EST)
Boise State -178
Fresno State +675
San Diego State +725
Utah State +1400
Wyoming +2000
Nevada +2500
Colorado State +4000
UNLV +4000
Air Force +5000
New Mexico +15000
Hawaii +30000
San Jose State +50000

Pac-12 Champion - 8/31/2018 7:00 PM (EST)
Washington +107
USC +450
Stanford +515
Oregon +825
Utah +1600
Arizona +1700
UCLA +4000
Arizona State +6000
Colorado +6000
California +6000
Washington State +8000
Oregon State +50000

Pac-12 North Winner - 8/31/2018 9:00 PM (EST)
Washington -153
Stanford +350
Oregon +495
California +2700
Washington State +3250
Oregon State +13000

Pac-12 South Winner - 8/31/2018 7:00 PM (EST)
USC +152
Utah +415
Arizona +420
UCLA +625
Arizona State +940
Colorado +940

SEC Champion - 8/30/2018 8:30 PM (EST)
Alabama -118
Georgia +350
Auburn +850
Mississippi State +1500
Florida +1800
LSU +2500
Texas A&M +3000
South Carolina +3300
Missouri +4000
Tennessee +10000
Kentucky +30000
Arkansas +30000
Vanderbilt +50000

SEC East Winner - 9/1/2018 12:00 PM (EST)
Georgia -178
Florida +465
South Carolina +875
Missouri +1025
Tennessee +1800
Kentucky +4000
Vanderbilt +6000

SEC West Winner - 8/30/2018 8:30 PM (EST)
Alabama -227
Auburn +540
Mississippi State +965
LSU +1400
Texas A&M +1500
Arkansas +8700

Sun Belt Champion - 8/30/2018 7:00 PM (EST)
Arkansas State +130
Appalachian State +260
Troy +300
UL Monroe +1200
Georgia Southern +1400
UL Lafayette +4500
Georgia State +5000
South Alabama +5500
Coastal Carolina +10000
Texas State +11000

New for 2018, the Sun Belt has split into East and West divisions this year and will have a Championship game 12/1.


Lee - 7/21/2018 at 11:42 AM

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Having a hard time finding that particular issue since they are regional. That's the one I want because there's a Michigan player on the front.


It's funny because people around here are questioning why no Ohio State player is on the cover.

Send me your address and I will mail you one from here with Gary on the cover.


Cool! Check your PM's. Thanks!


DanB - 7/22/2018 at 11:54 AM

I love the over/under on South Carolina win total ay 7.5 and projected 3rd place finish in the East. USuC fans have drinking the Muschump Kool-aid where he claims to be doing special things to bring in championships. I've heard this **** for 50 years and nothing changes.

EfF the Gamecocks and Go TIGERS!!!


Lee - 7/22/2018 at 01:04 PM

So do you want the over or the under?


nebish - 7/23/2018 at 03:51 PM

Dan always hates South Carolina. So does our friend hoffcl, he used to call them "the team from the state under North Carolina". One is a Clemson fan (going for 5 straight over SC this year) and the other is a Georgia fan (the last in the series 3 Georgia has won by 14 or more).

I think SC can be good, but they were 9-4 last year, just 5-3 in the SEC. How much better can they be? They were 6-1 in one score games last year and won 3 games in which they were outgained in yardage. So SC may have to be improved this year just to go 5-3 in the league again. Don't forget SC has lost 4 straight to UK!!!

Still alot of people are high on SC this year, either because they think Georgia may take a step back or because they like Bentley. Bentley year 3 has potential to have his best year yet. New OC promoted from the staff. SC has some weapons to work with, but Bentley didn't play up to expectations last year so he will need to rise his game.

Everyone knows that Muschamp teams can typically play some D, it's just the O on his watch never pulls their weight.

After Georgia the SEC East looks like it is anybody's division to challenge the Dawgs. I have heard media people saying they think SC can beat Georgia, which maybe they can. I've also heard people say SC can win the East, that I'm not so optimistic on. I think this time of year people just want to look for something up and coming and different. SC usually disappoints in that regard. Maybe 2018 can be different?


sckeys - 7/23/2018 at 07:32 PM

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I love the over/under on South Carolina win total ay 7.5 and projected 3rd place finish in the East. USuC fans have drinking the Muschump Kool-aid where he claims to be doing special things to bring in championships. I've heard this **** for 50 years and nothing changes.

EfF the Gamecocks and Go TIGERS!!!


Agree. Same when Spurrier came here. They were just natl championing all over themselves. That Clemson game is just as important as the 5 in a row thing is all the talk already. I myself am a huge fan of whoever I got that week.


leafsfan - 7/25/2018 at 07:28 PM

DUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


DanB - 7/27/2018 at 10:47 AM

YAHOO has their fantasy league up


allmanned - 7/30/2018 at 02:15 PM

It,s great to be a Florida Gator go Gators,


nebish - 7/30/2018 at 04:14 PM

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It,s great to be a Florida Gator go Gators,


If you can get some solid QB play, Florida will be a team on the rise!


nebish - 7/30/2018 at 04:20 PM

Nice to see Mike poke his head in! Oregon should be an interesting team this year. Hope Herbert can stay healthy. Glad Levitt said as DC. Everyone is just giving Washington that division, and they deserve to be the favorite, the only weakness they have is a proven threat at WR (like they have in 2016). Stanford's model of playing to their defense and keeping it simple on O may be changing...the D is weaker and the O may be their best in years. Oregon? Coaching change (again) and Herbert's health would be the questions. Ducks should be a team to watch. And Cal is up and coming. I am down on Washington State this year, they may struggle to make a bowl. Think they may drop the game at Wyoming in the opener.

I'll look into the yahoo pick'em for this year.


nebish - 7/31/2018 at 10:35 AM

Our 10th year for the yahoo pick'em!!! We've had 8 different winners.

Sign up - join private group

https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/college/register/joingroup

Group ID#: 2128
Password: saban

I haven't checked the yahoo ap this year. In the past it just worked for their fantasy football leagues, not pick'em.


Past winners:
2017 - oldcoot
2016 - nebish / kirbyskids (Dannyspell) (yahoo tie break goes to nebish)
2015 - Village Dawg (hoffcl)
2014 - nebish
2013 - DanB
2012 - alloak41
2011 - Wharfrat
2010 - non ABB member (leafsfan friend)
2009 - Bird


Lee - 8/2/2018 at 06:36 PM

I'd like to think this whole Urban Meyer thing isn't true. Not for him, but for the ex coach's wife. This is a very sad story.

If so, I think the only thing OSU can do is part ways with Urban.


StratDal - 8/3/2018 at 12:37 AM

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It,s great to be a Florida Gator go Gators,


If you can get some solid QB play, Florida will be a team on the rise!


Florida hired an awesome coach. Look out for the Gators especially in 2020.


nebish - 8/3/2018 at 01:41 AM

Coach Urban Meyer and Ohio State have a mess on their hands. The cover up gets you eventually.

I don't know, they'll figure it out what is right for their program based on the facts surrounding all of it.

Ohio State's win total has been taken off the board at a few online places, not sure about Vegas.

Certainly a distraction for the team. And add in that Ryan Day has been named acting head coach, with no head coaching experience, while their are two former HCs on the staff in Kevin Wilson and Greg Schiano - that could create some resentment within the ranks. Ofcourse Kevin Wilson has his own baggage and we know about the Schiano controversy.


StratDal - 8/3/2018 at 04:21 AM

Just found out UCLA's practices are closed to the public. Well it saves me a trip out to Westwood; more time to spend on the Whipping Post!

GO BRUINS!


leafsfan - 8/3/2018 at 10:17 PM

Hey Strat I am in your neck of the woods for a family vacation from November 9 to 19. If you are venturing to USC UCLA I'd love to tag along or even drop in to say hi at your tailgate. And of course rid you of any food going to waste.

Long way away, just planting the seed.

Cheers


Lee - 8/4/2018 at 12:35 PM

Going to go to one or both of Northwestern's first two home games, Duke and Akron.

Tickets for Akron can be had for $2 and Duke for a whopping $3.


IPowrie - 8/4/2018 at 01:55 PM

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Going to go to one or both of Northwestern's first two home games, Duke and Akron.

Tickets for Akron can be had for $2 and Duke for a whopping $3.


Can tickets be had for cheap for a Big Ten home game?


DanB - 8/4/2018 at 02:19 PM

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Going to go to one or both of Northwestern's first two home games, Duke and Akron.

Tickets for Akron can be had for $2 and Duke for a whopping $3.


Northwestern picked up Clemson transfer 5* Hunter Johnson. He's a real good QB.


StratDal - 8/5/2018 at 03:18 AM

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Hey Strat I am in your neck of the woods for a family vacation from November 9 to 19. If you are venturing to USC UCLA I'd love to tag along or even drop in to say hi at your tailgate. And of course rid you of any food going to waste.

Long way away, just planting the seed.

Cheers


Cool leaf! This year's showdown is at the Coliseum. Sorry but I don't go to games there anymore; too much of a hassle.

Good luck to the Ducks this season. I think the Bruins play at Eugene. I don't think they've won there since 2004. Should be a heck of a game especially with CCK returning.


Lee - 8/5/2018 at 10:52 AM

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Just found out UCLA's practices are closed to the public. Well it saves me a trip out to Westwood; more time to spend on the Whipping Post!

GO BRUINS!



Just saw a snippet on ESPN about The Pac Ten. UCLA only has a 1% chance of winning the conference. Wow. How the mighty have fallen.


StratDal - 8/5/2018 at 02:52 PM

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Just found out UCLA's practices are closed to the public. Well it saves me a trip out to Westwood; more time to spend on the Whipping Post!

GO BRUINS!



Just saw a snippet on ESPN about The Pac Ten. UCLA only has a 1% chance of winning the conference. Wow. How the mighty have fallen.


I'm surprised they even have a 1% chance considering there isn't a Pac Ten conference.


Lee - 8/5/2018 at 02:59 PM

Well, there's still a Big Ten with 14 teams.


StratDal - 8/6/2018 at 01:04 AM

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Well, there's still a Big Ten with 14 teams.


Well done! GO BRUINS!


Lee - 8/6/2018 at 09:45 AM

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Going to go to one or both of Northwestern's first two home games, Duke and Akron.

Tickets for Akron can be had for $2 and Duke for a whopping $3.


Can tickets be had for cheap for a Big Ten home game?



$2 OR $3 too rich for your blood?

If you've never been to a Northwestern game, plan a trip to Chicago. Evanston is just a short train ride away. Campus is a short walk from the train station. The stadium is really cool. Much smaller than Michigan or Michigan State. I think even MAC schools like Western or Central Michigan.


Bhawk - 8/6/2018 at 12:07 PM

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Coach Urban Meyer and Ohio State have a mess on their hands. The cover up gets you eventually.

I don't know, they'll figure it out what is right for their program based on the facts surrounding all of it.

Ohio State's win total has been taken off the board at a few online places, not sure about Vegas.

Certainly a distraction for the team. And add in that Ryan Day has been named acting head coach, with no head coaching experience, while their are two former HCs on the staff in Kevin Wilson and Greg Schiano - that could create some resentment within the ranks. Ofcourse Kevin Wilson has his own baggage and we know about the Schiano controversy.




Strange place, Ohio...


Bhawk - 8/6/2018 at 12:12 PM

Big 12 thoughts...

OU - Who replaces Baker Mayfield? Whoever does has the luxury of having a fine offensive line. About that defense, tho...

Iowa State - Yeah, I said Iowa State. Sleeper. Maybe. Sorta. Probably not. But still...

West Virginia - Been trying to figure this team out for a few years now. Strong starts. Inexplicable fades.

K-State - See West Virginia. When does the Snyder Era end?

TCU - Pieces are in place. Now what?

Texas - Maybe this is the season they realize that they aren't entitled to anything just because they are Texas. Nah, won't happen.


Lee - 8/6/2018 at 12:18 PM

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Texas - Maybe this is the season they realize that they aren't entitled to anything just because they are Texas. Nah, won't happen.


Maybe they'll regret letting Mack Brown go as they should. My opinion of course.

[Edited on 8/6/2018 by Lee]


nebish - 8/6/2018 at 12:51 PM

UCLA practices closed? Can't you just get a hotel room overlooking the field and see everything there?

Duke @ Northwestern should be good game! I think Hunter Johnson has to sit out a year on the transfer, but that is an amazing land for NW, believe I heard that is their first ever 5* kid.

Big Xll football should be really great this year. OU is at the top, deservedly so even without Baker they have alot on O to do damage with, like Bhawk says, it is always the D that you worry about. But otherwise try picking who finishes 2nd or even last in the Big Xll. KU should be last, but they could also win maybe as many as 4 games this year? I see the league being super competitive and should produce good games weekly. Teams seem really even this year outside of OU. Texas might be ready to turn a corner and WVU has big expectations. But Baylor will be better, ISU will still be solid, OK St will drop off, but will still be decent, seems a little easy to overlook TCU which is never good. K St is typically tough. They are playing D at TTech for a change.

Here is something I saw on Kansas State won 5 games last year where their opponent outgained them in total yards. Vs Baylor -31, Vs Kansas -142, Vs TTech -119, Vs Ok St -89, Vs ISU -115. Some of those are huge yardage discrepancies to still win a game while being outgained like that. But that is kind of KSt's MO, turnovers, special teams, smoke and mirrors, they make a living out of winning games like that almost annually. Still just to realize that of their 6 wins vs IA/FBS/P5 teams last year, they only outgained 1 of the 6 teams they beat...which was UCLA without Rosen.


Lee - 8/6/2018 at 07:31 PM

Speaking of Northwestern, They have a really good home schedule; Michigan, Nebraska, Wisconsin and Notre Dame out of their seven games. You can buy single game tickets to any of them except for Michigan & Notre Dame. You can only get those if you buy season tickets. Pretty good way to shake money out of people.

Can't say that I blame them. There will be more fans there of both other teams than there will be for Northwestern.

[Edited on 8/8/2018 by Lee]


IPowrie - 8/6/2018 at 08:14 PM

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Going to go to one or both of Northwestern's first two home games, Duke and Akron.

Tickets for Akron can be had for $2 and Duke for a whopping $3.


Can tickets be had for cheap for a Big Ten home game?



$2 OR $3 too rich for your blood?

If you've never been to a Northwestern game, plan a trip to Chicago. Evanston is just a short train ride away. Campus is a short walk from the train station. The stadium is really cool. Much smaller than Michigan or Michigan State. I think even MAC schools like Western or Central Michigan.


I want to visit all the Big Ten stadiums but would prefer to see a Big Ten matchup.


Lee - 8/6/2018 at 08:33 PM

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I want to visit all the Big Ten stadiums but would prefer to see a Big Ten matchup.



Gotcha. The only cheap Northwestern Big Ten game is the last game of the season against Illinois, November 24th. Thanksgiving weekend though. That's rivalry weekend across the country and that's as close as those two have to having a rival since they are in the same state I guess.

You can get in for seven bucks.


nebish - 8/7/2018 at 09:13 PM

Bad news, sounds like could be some trouble in T-Town as Jalen Hurts expresses some dissatisfaction with team communication with him. Not surprising in the times we live, his father is speaking out to, it may be a forgone conclusion that Hurts will be a grad transfer after this season. Adding to the story, Saban had said a couple months ago he had "no idea" if Hurts would be on the roster for week 1. Rare for such an issue to arise on a Nick Saban team with as much influence and control he has over the players and the media.

Good news, Yahoo's Fantasy App has pick'em leagues capability this year!


porkchopbob - 8/7/2018 at 10:55 PM

I just got tickets to Wisconsin vs uh, New Mexico. Haven't been to a UW football game since I was a sophomore in college, used to live right next door to the stadium. Figured I'd go since I'll be in town for my parents' 50th anniversary. Camp Randall always has a great scene, we always partied with the alumni as they wandered through their old hood (or parked on our lawn), fed them some brats and beers so I guess it's my turn now


nebish - 8/9/2018 at 12:21 PM

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I just got tickets to Wisconsin vs uh, New Mexico. Haven't been to a UW football game since I was a sophomore in college, used to live right next door to the stadium. Figured I'd go since I'll be in town for my parents' 50th anniversary. Camp Randall always has a great scene, we always partied with the alumni as they wandered through their old hood (or parked on our lawn), fed them some brats and beers so I guess it's my turn now


Yes, roles reversed! Sounds like a great time!

3 weeks until the first Thursday of the season!


Lee - 8/9/2018 at 12:42 PM

Just looked at the line on the Michigan / Notre Dame game. Opening line was ND by seven. Now it's 2.5. That's quite a swing.

[Edited on 8/12/2018 by Lee]


nebish - 8/10/2018 at 02:57 AM

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Just looked at the line on the Nichigan / Notre Dame game. Opening line was ND by seven. Now it's 2.5. That's quite a swing.


I thought I saw Michigan was always favored in that one. What site do you use?


Lee - 8/10/2018 at 11:14 AM

The first post of this thread. Unless I read it wrong I thought it said ND -7. Not sure why Michigan would be favored on the road in that one. Don't know.

I still can't bet futures for whatever reason. I want to bet the over / under on a few teams.


nebish - 8/10/2018 at 11:26 AM

They did have 7 but got pounded and they moved it to 1. Odds makers whiffed on that one. Usually early season opening numbers have low max bets to protect the books if the market finds an error.


Lee - 8/12/2018 at 11:07 AM

Michigan is now - 2.5. If it moves to 3 before the game I'll bite and take the points. Not sure how a line can move 9.5 points within a few weeks though.


Lee - 8/12/2018 at 11:23 AM

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They did have 7 but got pounded and they moved it to 1. Odds makers whiffed on that one. Usually early season opening numbers have low max bets to protect the books if the market finds an error.


Curious: What do you mean by "got pounded"? By what? Money moving? Obviously not a game since nobody has played yet. Sure seems like a lot for a line to move that much when no games have been played yet. At least ND has a QB with some semblance of a track record. Hopefully Michigan's new guy can do something I guess.


nebish - 8/12/2018 at 12:45 PM

Yeah, "pounded" meaning the sportsbook online or in Vegas took alot of action on one side.

There is another website I frequent for college football called capping the game and people were posting there people's twitter and stuff on how large bets would be made on certain win totals or games were the players/bettors obviously found a flaw or weakness in the early number. The sportsbook hopes to limit their exposure on the early numbers because people who bet for a living or are really good at it can have a huge advantage in knowing personnel and what a number should be, so when the book releases a number vastly different from their's they pounce.

I do think Michigan should be favored at Notre Dame and expect them to win.

ND does return Wimbush as well as Book, but Wimbush is going to have to elevate his game to a much higher level this year for ND to be more successful. And while generally you can expect players to get better with time and experience, it is going to be hard for him because he loses two great OL protecting him. ND's OL will still be good, but losing two first round DCs you'd expect them to be down a notch atleast early in the season. Then Wimbush has also lost alot of weapons around him, RB Adams is gone, #1 WR St Brown is gone (2 of top 3 receivers gone), so more is going to be expected of Wimbush and based on his poor passing last year, it could be difficult for him to come out of the gate and just carry the team on his shoulders.

Couple that with Michigan's D, which is to me, one of the top 5 Ds in the country. ND's O is going to face significant challenges in this game I think.

Michigan's O is not without question of it's own. Patterson is good player from Ole Miss, but coming to a new team with a new system and getting chemistry with his new teammates can't be understated. And playing on the road vs ND's solid D adds to that as well. I think Patterson having played against good Ds in the SEC in hostile environments will help him. And then looking at the Michigan offense as a whole, and contrasting it with Notre Dame, Michigan returns all their key skill players, while ND is replacing them. I expect big years from Tarik Black and People-Jones in their second season now. It is going to all come down to Michigan's OL which has under achieved and is perhaps lacking on talent.

Michigan's offense at times last year was simply bad. Tons of sacks allowed, threw more INTs than TD passes, bad ypp, ppg, Michigan's O was one of the worst in the Big Ten last year. I expect that to change this season as long as Patterson adapts well. Combine that with Michigan's D which I think will be even better this year, having potential to be among the nation's best for sure makes for a team that should be as good as 10-2, if not even better. They get it started week 1 with a W.


Lee - 8/12/2018 at 03:10 PM

Not to call you out but another curious question; if you think Michigan is going to win, did you bet on them getting seven?


nebish - 8/12/2018 at 04:38 PM

I wish! My favorite and most exciting bets are money lining underdogs to win straight up, especially finding ones getting a TD or more. I would've loved some of that action!! But I do not have any online accounts and don't do any early betting.

On another Big Ten note, after the Urban Meyer thing, now we have the story at Maryland unfolding. Just wow. To think that some of the coaching practices may've caused one of the players death...wow. Not to take the focus off of the seriousness there, Maryland over 5.5 was one of my most favorite win total plays. Since I do not play anything early, probably 2 weeks out from getting those in yet, with this coming to light and everything that comes with a situation like this it makes me reconsider playing that one.


Lee - 8/12/2018 at 08:18 PM

Yeah and apparently a few of his staff were part of it. Didn't that kind of happen several years ago with Craig James' kid I want to say with Mike Leach?


Lee - 8/12/2018 at 08:26 PM

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I wish! My favorite and most exciting bets are money lining underdogs to win straight up, especially finding ones getting a TD or more. I would've loved some of that action!! But I do not have any online accounts and don't do any early betting.



I have a buddy (young guy) who likes to bet. He'll purchase an extra half point on a game. Say, take it from 7 to 7.5 or the other way if you want the underdog. Probably wouldn't make sense for a baseball game but it could make sense for a football game.


nebish - 8/14/2018 at 03:17 AM

There are only 4 people in our pick'em league so far. Come on, I know you all love college football more than that! There is a mobile app this year for it too.

Sign up - join private group

https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/college/register/joingroup

Group ID#: 2128
Password: saban


sckeys - 8/14/2018 at 05:16 AM

Iím in. I think. Graduate transfers correct?


nebish - 8/14/2018 at 11:53 AM

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Iím in. I think. Graduate transfers correct?


Yup, you're in.

If you have any questions once the picks come up for week 1 let us know. One thing that has been confusing before is some of the games on there might be a game like Texas A&M against Northwestern State. NW St is a IAA/FCS team and yahoo does not post point spreads for those matchups so it will just say 'off' where the spread would normally be. That just means you pick the straight up winner.

We are dropping everyone's worst week, so don't worry if you have a bad week or forget to get the games in. You get a mulligan.

So 5 of us now. Lots of past players need to sign up yet. 2.5 weeks away til first full weekend starts!


sckeys - 8/14/2018 at 01:56 PM

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Iím in. I think. Graduate transfers correct?


Yup, you're in.

If you have any questions once the picks come up for week 1 let us know. One thing that has been confusing before is some of the games on there might be a game like Texas A&M against Northwestern State. NW St is a IAA/FCS team and yahoo does not post point spreads for those matchups so it will just say 'off' where the spread would normally be. That just means you pick the straight up winner.

We are dropping everyone's worst week, so don't worry if you have a bad week or forget to get the games in. You get a mulligan.



So 5 of us now. Lots of past players need to sign up yet. 2.5 weeks away til first full weekend starts!


Cool. Iím looking forward to it. Thanks.


Sang - 8/14/2018 at 09:34 PM

Not sure if I will play this year - going to be in Europe on a tour and will miss 3 weekends..........


Lee - 8/14/2018 at 09:44 PM

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Not sure if I will play this year - going to be in Europe on a tour and will miss 3 weekends..........


Yeah, I hear you can't get The Internet in Europe.

[Edited on 8/15/2018 by Lee]


sckeys - 8/14/2018 at 10:31 PM

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Not sure if I will play this year - going to be in Europe on a tour and will miss 3 weekends..........


The golf courses will still be there after football season.


Sang - 8/16/2018 at 05:03 PM

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Not sure if I will play this year - going to be in Europe on a tour and will miss 3 weekends..........


Yeah, I hear you can't get The Internet in Europe.




It will be more of a finding time to do it problem than an internet access problem.......


nebish - 8/18/2018 at 05:15 PM

In two weeks college football Saturdays will again rule the day with a stretch of the 14 best days of the year! Giddy Up CFB fans!


Muleman1994 - 8/18/2018 at 07:13 PM

Roil Tide!


oldcoot - 8/19/2018 at 02:31 PM

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Not sure if I will play this year - going to be in Europe on a tour and will miss 3 weekends..........


Pretty sure I'm out too. Both local sports accountants have gone to handling things online through a website offshore. Not sure I'm at all interested in doing that. So, likely won't take the time to make picks all through the season.

But this way, there will be a new champ this year.


IPowrie - 8/25/2018 at 01:36 PM

It is week 0 and this is on page two. What the heck. Can't wait for the games next week especially Michigan-Notre Dame


nebish - 8/25/2018 at 09:31 PM

Yes, it starts today. Duquesne and UMass is about to kick! Never been so excited for such an obscure game. College football is back!

Our pick'em league is still missing some past players. 7 people signed up, glad to see Fast43 back! 5 Friday 8/31 games are on the pick list. Step right up players!


sckeys - 8/25/2018 at 10:51 PM

Itís gonna be fun. I havenít even looked at whoís who this year. Iím sure that the usual suspects will be good but whoís the surprise team?


StratDal - 8/25/2018 at 11:44 PM

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Yes, it starts today. Duquesne and UMass is about to kick! Never been so excited for such an obscure game. College football is back!

Our pick'em league is still missing some past players. 7 people signed up, glad to see Fast43 back! 5 Friday 8/31 games are on the pick list. Step right up players!


I went to UMass for a summer session many moons ago. Go Minutemen!!

Watching NC A&T vs Jacksonville State; it's on ESPN. What the hell!

Look for the Gators to make plenty of noise this season. They've got talent on both sides of the ball plus Dan Mullens is a great coach. He knows out to develop QBs.

GO BRUINS!


nebish - 8/27/2018 at 01:55 PM

Big loss for Michigan with Tarik Black's injury. He missed 10 games with a right foot injury last year, now he injured his other foot in camp. Black flashed some promise last season and was going to be a big part of a potentially improved Michigan O this season.


Bhawk - 8/27/2018 at 03:39 PM

Nice teasers on Saturday night. Wasn't expecting that kind of offensive output from Hawai'i and Wyoming was supposed to be terrible.


sckeys - 8/27/2018 at 04:51 PM

I just seen where Clemson is using the QB from last yr in the opener with Furman. That shouldnít be much of a challenge game.


Lee - 8/27/2018 at 05:39 PM

Just saw this thing on ESPN that lists the Heisman favorites and Alabama QB Tagovailoa is their favorite. I found that interesting.


Lee - 8/27/2018 at 05:41 PM

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Big loss for Michigan with Tarik Black's injury. He missed 10 games with a right foot injury last year, now he injured his other foot in camp. Black flashed some promise last season and was going to be a big part of a potentially improved Michigan O this season.


Yeah that sucks. But they are going to have to rely on defense this season anyway so maybe they can fill in that hole.


nebish - 8/28/2018 at 12:09 AM

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Big loss for Michigan with Tarik Black's injury. He missed 10 games with a right foot injury last year, now he injured his other foot in camp. Black flashed some promise last season and was going to be a big part of a potentially improved Michigan O this season.


Yeah that sucks. But they are going to have to rely on defense this season anyway so maybe they can fill in that hole.




Yes you are right, but that is what they did last year, rely on the defense and that got them 8-5 with loses to the other big 3 in the East.

No doubt that D will lead the way again, but improvement must be had on offense. An expanded role for a healthy Black was going to fill that hole. Not sure what other underwhelming upperclassman they have to utilize unless there is a freshman we don't know about.

Not like a single WR can totally change my opinion on a team's fortune's, but I went from optimistic they could win as many as 10 games, now the toss-up games, like ND week 1, have become more difficult I think without a talent like Black available.


nebish - 8/28/2018 at 04:49 PM

Alright, leafsfan is in! The band is getting back together!

I will need to contact Alanwoods.


Bhawk - 8/28/2018 at 05:11 PM

I'm in. Sigh.

Every time I think I'm out, Scott brings me back in...


nebish - 8/28/2018 at 08:03 PM

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I'm in. Sigh.

Every time I think I'm out, Scott brings me back in...


YES!

Now how can I remind you to make your picks each week?

Miss one week it doesn't hurt as we drop single worst weekly result.

Let's go!! Thursday kickoffs are just over 48 hours away!!!! Friday is actually a better slate though.

UPSET ALERT - Green Wave beats Wake Forest Thursday. Book it Danno


sckeys - 8/28/2018 at 08:35 PM

When is deadline, first kickoff?


Lee - 8/28/2018 at 08:59 PM

Okay Scott, I'm in. Gets us up to ten entries.

[Edited on 8/28/2018 by Lee]


nebish - 8/28/2018 at 09:05 PM

Great Lee, glad you are in!

The deadline technically would be 5+ minutes before the kickoff of the first game. However, I believe you can sign up for the yahoo sports leagues during the season, and since we drop everyone's single worst week, it is possible that somebody could sign up for week 2 and play it out from there with week 1 being their dropped week. Not 100% sure on that, but I think yahoo let's people join after the season.

But at this point we have most of our regulars and we've atleast heard form oldcoot and sang on their intentions. I did email Alan, so hopefully he will join as he has always been in the leagues. Then we can find one more for a dozen!

There are always alot of games to pick the first 2 weeks because so many teams play their fcs/IAA nonconference opponents. Those games do not have point spreads, just pick the winner. Sometimes those IAA boys beat their IA counterparts. I think I was the only one who picked James Madison to beat ECU last year. NCSt is a tougher foe for them this year and I haven't read up on JMU yet this season.


nebish - 8/28/2018 at 09:08 PM

What games do you all plan to make it to this year?

I only make 1 a year, some off the radar game usually.

This year we are going to Morgantown for the Baylor - WVU game Thursday night! We may also go to a Buffalo Bulls home game on some MACtion night in November.


Lee - 8/28/2018 at 09:17 PM

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Great Lee, glad you are in!

The deadline technically would be 5+ minutes before the kickoff of the first game. However, I believe you can sign up for the yahoo sports leagues during the season, and since we drop everyone's single worst week, it is possible that somebody could sign up for week 2 and play it out from there with week 1 being their dropped week. Not 100% sure on that, but I think yahoo let's people join after the season.

But at this point we have most of our regulars and we've atleast heard form oldcoot and sang on their intentions. I did email Alan, so hopefully he will join as he has always been in the leagues. Then we can find one more for a dozen!

There are always alot of games to pick the first 2 weeks because so many teams play their fcs/IAA nonconference opponents. Those games do not have point spreads, just pick the winner. Sometimes those IAA boys beat their IA counterparts. I think I was the only one who picked James Madison to beat ECU last year. NCSt is a tougher foe for them this year and I haven't read up on JMU yet this season.


So the lines that are currently off won't have a line?


hoffcl - 8/28/2018 at 09:45 PM

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Dan always hates South Carolina. So does our friend hoffcl, he used to call them "the team from the state under North Carolina". One is a Clemson fan (going for 5 straight over SC this year) and the other is a Georgia fan (the last in the series 3 Georgia has won by 14 or more).

I think SC can be good, but they were 9-4 last year, just 5-3 in the SEC. How much better can they be? They were 6-1 in one score games last year and won 3 games in which they were outgained in yardage. So SC may have to be improved this year just to go 5-3 in the league again. Don't forget SC has lost 4 straight to UK!!!

Everyone knows that Muschamp teams can typically play some D, it's just the O on his watch never pulls their weight.





Yeah, but isn't the scoop on that team supposed to be offense this year?

What I love about us, the good guys, playing them this year is that so many people are saying they will beat us. So, this game isn't going to slip up on us - the good guys.



nebish - 8/28/2018 at 11:13 PM

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So the lines that are currently off won't have a line?



Yahoo never does point spreads for games involving FCS/IAA teams. So those will still say 'off' Friday. Otherwise they put the line off if there is some injury, weather or other issue where books are unsure of line adjustment. I don't know what source yahoo uses. Just know that whatever the Friday spread is on there will be the official and final number for right/wrong picks.


nebish - 8/28/2018 at 11:30 PM

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Dan always hates South Carolina. So does our friend hoffcl, he used to call them "the team from the state under North Carolina". One is a Clemson fan (going for 5 straight over SC this year) and the other is a Georgia fan (the last in the series 3 Georgia has won by 14 or more).

I think SC can be good, but they were 9-4 last year, just 5-3 in the SEC. How much better can they be? They were 6-1 in one score games last year and won 3 games in which they were outgained in yardage. So SC may have to be improved this year just to go 5-3 in the league again. Don't forget SC has lost 4 straight to UK!!!

Everyone knows that Muschamp teams can typically play some D, it's just the O on his watch never pulls their weight.





Yeah, but isn't the scoop on that team supposed to be offense this year?

What I love about us, the good guys, playing them this year is that so many people are saying they will beat us. So, this game isn't going to slip up on us - the good guys.





Alright Chris is in house tonight too!

I recall Muschamp saying he wish he had OC Roper earlier at Florida, now he is the scapegoat for last season's O issues.

They say the O is supposed to be better. Not knowing any philosophical changes, I would say it should because I believe there is potential there. Then again Will has only had a decent O once in 6 years as a head coach so something with him could be constraining his offenses. Bentley is fine but I have yet to see him really develop, may be it will happen this year, maybe it can't happen. Just hope Deebo can stay healthy because he is fun!

Yeah, I've heard so many people on that SC team week 2. But you have to love that right? It adds to the game, not just that gamecock fans are running their mouth, but there seems to be Georgia doubters all over. Georgia is only going to get better and better and better. So if SC is going to get you, this is probably their best chance.


Lee - 8/29/2018 at 07:46 PM

What a great opening weekend. Four games with ranked opposing teams. Awesome.

Michigan / Notre Dame

Washington / Auburn

Miami / LSU

Virginia Tech / Florida State


Also looking forward to the Northwestern / Purdue game tomorrow night.

Let the games begin!


sckeys - 8/29/2018 at 08:52 PM


Yeah, I've heard so many people on that SC team week 2. But you have to love that right? It adds to the game, not just that gamecock fans are running their mouth, but there seems to be Georgia doubters all over. Georgia is only going to get better and better and better. So if SC is going to get you, this is probably their best chance.




I just heard about the GA doubters from a bud at lunch. USC fans have been focused on this yrs Clemson game for many months since they touted that 5 in a row thing to no end themselves. They focus much more on hate for Clem that supporting usc.



[Edited on 8/29/2018 by sckeys]


nebish - 8/30/2018 at 12:54 AM

This time tomorrow we will be watching college football!!!!


sckeys - 8/30/2018 at 01:16 AM

Iím trying to get up to speed on whatís happening with teams this yr. I havenít checked out any previews. Still excited just the same.


nebish - 8/30/2018 at 01:27 AM

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Iím trying to get up to speed on whatís happening with teams this yr. I havenít checked out any previews. Still excited just the same.


Most everyone here has a team, or conference or region they follow. Pretty easy to pick up on most o of the time.

Who's your team? ACC, SEC?

I live in NE Ohio. Grew up a Nebraska fan in the late 80s and 90s. Lost touch with them when they fired Solich and never reconnected. Just can't recreate some things. Now I just try and follow every team, literally. Every team can be my favorite team on any given week. I just love college football!

Lots of fans here to, although with everything else on the forum the activity isn't what it used to be.

I'm glad you are joining us.


sckeys - 8/30/2018 at 03:18 AM

I live an hr from USC and about the same from Clemson so no shortage of info on those. I just havenít read up and gotten in the groove yet. I generally support my home state teams. I went to a tech school so I havenít any strong allegiance to any of em. We had a softball team but Iíve never seen odds on their games.

Thank you for the invite and welcome, itís gonna be a fun time.


StratDal - 8/31/2018 at 02:58 PM

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Iím trying to get up to speed on whatís happening with teams this yr. I havenít checked out any previews. Still excited just the same.


Most everyone here has a team, or conference or region they follow. Pretty easy to pick up on most o of the time.

Who's your team? ACC, SEC?

I live in NE Ohio. Grew up a Nebraska fan in the late 80s and 90s. Lost touch with them when they fired Solich and never reconnected. Just can't recreate some things. Now I just try and follow every team, literally. Every team can be my favorite team on any given week. I just love college football!

Lots of fans here to, although with everything else on the forum the activity isn't what it used to be.

I'm glad you are joining us.


I've bled Bruin Blue and Gold since I was 9. I've attended games from Seattle to Annapolis and many points in between and not just UCLA games. Over the years, I've adopted other teams. My current ones are Northwestern (Pat Fitzgerald is the most under-rated coach in the country), Colorado (can't ask for a better location to see a football game) Auburn (I like the town, the colors, and the fans).

Programs I want to see go 0-12 are BYU and kal. I find BYU arrogant and kal's fans pathetic.

Can't beat college football tailgating either. It is the best and for many times over the last 20 seasons, the tailgate has been the highlight of Bruin football.

Hopefully CCK takes UCLA to The Promised Land one day. We'll see. GO BRUINS!


nebish - 8/31/2018 at 07:48 PM

Last night was fun. Enjoyed the NW-Pur game. Wish I had enjoyed the WF-Tulane game a little more with Wave losing in OT. Alot of failed opportunities for Wave in that one, but WF was better team. Really impressed with the true FR QB for WF Hartman playing his first ever live snaps of college football. Watched some Kennesaw - Georgia State game along with the SE Louisiana and ULM game. Those were some pretty good ones.

Nice little slate of games tonight. Can't wait!

Looking to see how CSU rebounds in their second game vs CU in the Rocky Mountain Showdown. I'm expecting CSU to really bring it tonight, think they are good value getting over a TD.

Michigan State should be really good this year, although I can't help it, I am kind of a Utah State fan too. Really tough game for the Aggies here, think they have a nice little team this season, will be interested to see how much they can challenge MSU.

Expect Cuse to win at WMich. Love P5 teams going to these small school stadiums. Think WM will have a really nice running game, but that is about all they have. If Cuse can load up to stop it I don;t believe WM has it through the air or in the D to win. Really like Eric Dungey's game for Cuse as well.

Army - Duke and San Diego State - Stanford definitely have my attention as well.

It's going to be a good night!

5 games tonight on the pick'em. Still time for anyone to sign up!!!


Lee - 9/1/2018 at 10:18 AM

I have seven out of eight correct in my pool that really matters ($$$) so I am happy at the moment.

Today should be fun. Supposed to be hot, humid and rainy here in Chicago so while not really football weather, I'll take it. Wouldn't mind tailgaiting though!

GO BLUE!


DanB - 9/1/2018 at 01:25 PM

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I have seven out of eight correct in my pool that really matters ($$$) so I am happy at the moment.

Today should be fun. Supposed to be hot, humid and rainy here in Chicago so while not really football weather, I'll take it. Wouldn't mind tailgaiting though!

GO BLUE!


my brother, a Mich fan, is flying to the game from Orlando


StratDal - 9/1/2018 at 01:27 PM

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I have seven out of eight correct in my pool that really matters ($$$) so I am happy at the moment.

Today should be fun. Supposed to be hot, humid and rainy here in Chicago so while not really football weather, I'll take it. Wouldn't mind tailgaiting though!

GO BLUE!


Typical September day here in So Cal. Off to friends this afternoon for all things football. GO BRUINS!


sckeys - 9/1/2018 at 03:10 PM

Iíve got Michigan in my other pick. Nice day to start a season.


IPowrie - 9/1/2018 at 03:30 PM

I generally like Michigan State but when I saw that Utah State had a shot at the upset I was rooting for them. The fans at that game got there moneys worth.


StratDal - 9/2/2018 at 12:20 PM

It's going to be a long season for the Bruins. UCLA visits Oklahoma next Saturday...


LeglizHemp - 9/2/2018 at 02:21 PM

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2793495-winners-and-losers-from-week-1- of-college-football?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_camp aign=editorial#slide14


sckeys - 9/2/2018 at 02:50 PM

It was a fun opening day. Texas didnít cover so meh...


leafsfan - 9/4/2018 at 08:07 PM

Washington shot themselves in the foot on three occasions but some of the calls or missed calls going Auburns way could have been evened out a bit.

Why are there no kickoff classic games outside the southeast? The "neutral site" is a bit of a stretch when game is an hours drive or less from the state of ALabama.

Ducks!!!!


nebish - 9/5/2018 at 03:35 AM

I agree on the neutral site thing, having it in someone's backyard makes it worse. I like home-and-home better, but that is where the money is...lots of money on those neutral site games.

Why all in the south...maybe because it just means more?

The people that put those games together likely just consider where they will get the best turnout, where the highest concentration of fans willing to come to the games reside. Would be great to see some games like that outwest, but the PAC12 can't fill their stadium in the title games. PAC12 teams don't fill neutral site stadiums the way SEC teams do.


nebish - 9/5/2018 at 03:37 AM

So week 1 in the books, what did you all think?

I had nice Thursday, Friday and Mondays. Saturday wasn't as fun as I had hoped, but even the worst day of college football is better than...just about every other day!


Lee - 9/5/2018 at 09:25 PM

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Washington shot themselves in the foot on three occasions but some of the calls or missed calls going Auburns way could have been evened out a bit.

Why are there no kickoff classic games outside the southeast? The "neutral site" is a bit of a stretch when game is an hours drive or less from the state of ALabama.

Ducks!!!!


I thought that was a fun game to watch. A few mistakes but entertaining nonetheless.


Lee - 9/5/2018 at 09:32 PM

Might go to the Northwestern / Duke game Saturday morning / afternoon. Hard to beat two bucks for a ticket and I don't think I will be missing much on TV that afternoon. No early games I really care about.


Bhawk - 9/5/2018 at 10:11 PM

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So week 1 in the books, what did you all think?


College GameDay Sign of the Week..."Jesus Hates Khakis"

Speaking of, Harbaugh is...underwhelming so far in his tenure in Ann Arbor. Just IMO.

Oklahoma looked fantastic!

Out here on the fruited plain...K-State let South Dakota hang around way too long and almost paid the price. Not a good look with Mississippi State coming into Manhattan this weekend.

Kansas...close the program. Shut it down. I've been giving grief to Jayhawks around me all week. If they can't get some of the basketball money and the wealthy alumni (of which there are several) to replace that dump of a stadium and repair that dump of a program then they should all be publicly ridiculed for thinking they are anywhere close to being a true Power 5 school.

Penn State...see K-State.

Miami...never left the locker room, was a little surprising. LSU remains an unknown, though.

Saban didn't really need to snap at that reporter, did he?

I didn't think that Ohio State would really cover, but those are some bad Beavers, apparently.


sckeys - 9/5/2018 at 11:22 PM

I like the above summary. I hope things go better this week. Maybe I wonít nap as much and can get involved.


StratDal - 9/5/2018 at 11:28 PM

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Might go to the Northwestern / Duke game Saturday morning / afternoon. Hard to beat two bucks for a ticket and I don't think I will be missing much on TV that afternoon. No early games I really care about.


If it's close by, WTH. NW is a good squad that has a good coach. Duke has improved under David Cutliff. It should be an entertaining game.


nebish - 9/6/2018 at 02:45 AM

Yes, going to the Duke - NW game should be fantastic. I really thought that Duke QB Daniel Jones was playing with confidence again after a rough and banged up last year for him. Duke has a good team. So does Northwestern. If you live that close and have nothing better to do, it sounds like a great idea!

Yes Oklahoma, wow. FAU not be a fast D compared to the team speed that OU has, but they are a really veteran unit and the fact that they offered zero resistance was surprising. In hindsight, with the new FAU QB (former OU) after having a cool-handed Driskel last year was an underestimated loss. Interesting to see where FAU goes from here (host Air Force this week - FAU lost to Navy last year). Lane Kiffin got fed a big ole pile of humble pile in that one.

I could not find that Kansas State game to watch, I saw they were trailing late and wanted to see it. Looks like KSt kicked FGs from the 7, 5, 21 and 27. Those are some short FGs. South Dakota is a good team and all, but if you are KSt you got to have some better finishes to those drives. Then they handed SD 10 pts off turnovers with a short field FG and pick-six. WR Zuber to the rescue with the punt ret TD and the TD catch. Barnes fumbled twice. Miss State was sure a well oiled machine last year, looking forward to this one. The Game Of The Year spread on this one was 2.5 in the summer, it is up to 8.5 now. That is alot of pts for a road fav going to Manhattan with a new coaching staff and a QB coming off a broken leg having not played a snap yet this year.

Kansas Jayhawks. Again, sometimes it helps to know who the good teams are in FCS/IAA, but I expected KU to beat Nicholls even though Nicholls was a playoff team I believe last year. And it wasn't really even like KU played well and just made some bad plays to help out Nicholls. Nicholls actually made some bad plays to help KU stay in the game. Well there was a bad facemask penalty on the Nicholls QB to keep a drive alive. But I think KU got a free safety on a bad punt and then Nicholls muffed a punt at the 10 and KU got a free TD out of that. Nicholls sacked them 6x! Funny I still think KU can win this week at Central Mich, but KU hasn't won a road game in how many games, like 40 or something? They hired Jeff Long for AD, he is a CFB guy. Just don't know what they can do to turn it around. We remember the dark days of Northwestern and Kansas State and Temple and Oregon State (who is bad again), those teams reinvented themselves at one point in time, how can Kansas do it. Like it was just over 10 years ago they were in the Orange Bowl!

I don't know I could talk about college football forever. Wednesday is almost over that means just 2 more days and a wake up to another fantastic Saturday!



[Edited on 9/6/2018 by nebish]


sckeys - 9/7/2018 at 07:08 PM

nebish,I seem to have misplaced my calendar. What day is tomorrow? Anything going on we need to know about?


nebish - 9/7/2018 at 11:15 PM

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nebish,I seem to have misplaced my calendar. What day is tomorrow? Anything going on we need to know about?


We made it!! It all happens again tomorrow! Friday nights for me during football season is literally like a kid waiting to run down the stairs Christmas morning!


nebish - 9/8/2018 at 02:40 AM

sckeys, you forgot to make picks in the yahoo league. You can still make picks for all your Saturday games.

Jerry! You lasted one week! You too, all the Saturday games are there for you to make still!


sckeys - 9/8/2018 at 02:45 AM

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sckeys, you forgot to make picks in the yahoo league. You can still make picks for all your Saturday games.

Jerry! You lasted one week! You too, all the Saturday games are there for you to make still!


Iím on it here in a few mins. I was reading some previews.


Lee - 9/8/2018 at 12:15 PM

Looking forward to today's games.

I know Oklahoma is really good but giving 30 to UCLA? 30???

Yeah, Kansas is bad. An underdog at Central Michigan? They are a MAC school.

My in laws live right across the street from Ross Aid Stadium and go to every game. Purdue better win today after losing there last week.

"The Bear", that guy on ESPN says to take Arkansas St +36.5 against Bama. I dunno about that. He also said Duke will win today at NW.

Should be a fun day!


sckeys - 9/8/2018 at 02:32 PM

I wondered that about OK too. I went with the big spreads on a few teams as 30 seems a lot. I did take Bama tho.

It looks to be a fun day.


sckeys - 9/9/2018 at 03:13 AM

Not my day.


nebish - 9/9/2018 at 04:51 AM

Fun night!! And it is going on 1am and there are still 4 games on!


nebish - 9/9/2018 at 12:53 PM

Streaks that ended yesterday:

Michigan threw a TD pass to a WR (364 days)

Kansas celebrates a road win (46 games, 2009)

And Bill, this one is for you....Kentucky snaps the nations longest series losing streak beating Florida (31 years, 1986)!


sckeys - 9/9/2018 at 03:53 PM

Clemson had a close one. My picks were horrible and I hope you folks had a better day.


leafsfan - 9/9/2018 at 04:56 PM

Great day of football, Colorado game was a good on in Lincoln. Buffalo QB and WR we're a great tandem.

Pitt must be really bad to get face-washed that bad, Ball State scared the Alter Boys and the ND faithful.

The Quack keeps on churning over another cream puff. One more easy one against San Jose State then the Tree comes to Eugene. That's going to be big time.


Putting 25 up yesterday was a return to my former glory days. I don't expect that to last.

QUACKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Lee - 9/9/2018 at 05:24 PM

Only lost two games that I bet. Both Big Ten. Northwestern's offense was nonexistent and Michigan State couldn't really get going, although their D played well.

Colorado game was fun. Should have bet against Notre Dame.


oldcoot - 9/10/2018 at 06:35 PM

Huskers showed some real areas of improvement and yet a lot of first game mistakes.

Should have had the Buffs 4th & 24 with less than two minutes left. Really, really dumb personal foul penalty though. That was absolutely the right call. Didn't expect a bonehead play like that coming from a more experienced player.

Really great improvement on the pass rush, seven sacks. Only had 14 all of last year, which is really pathetic.


nebish - 9/10/2018 at 06:37 PM

A good old face-washing reference! Yes!

I thought Pitt competed pretty well in that first half, but too many mistakes just accumulated and then PSU is plenty capable of pouncing and they did in the second half.

Northwestern was stopped on downs 4x and those two INTs...That was unfortunate for the Cats. Duke just played D and tried killing the clock the entire second half. Sucks that Jones got hurt, hope he can come back soon but I'm a little pessimistic on that.


StratDal - 9/11/2018 at 12:11 AM

Anyone take the Bruins? They covered!


StratDal - 9/15/2018 at 11:23 PM

Auburn screws pooch again against LSU. Good for Coach O.


nebish - 9/16/2018 at 04:08 AM

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Anyone take the Bruins? They covered!


I'm on them now. Trailing 7-16 +2.5 near end of 1st H. Let's get this W tonight Strat!


StratDal - 9/16/2018 at 06:01 PM

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Anyone take the Bruins? They covered!


I'm on them now. Trailing 7-16 +2.5 near end of 1st H. Let's get this W tonight Strat!


Sorry to have disappointed you. First time since 1971 UCLA has started off 0-3. And after last night, I don't know if it's going to get better this season.


sckeys - 9/17/2018 at 04:23 AM

This will be my toss out week.


nebish - 9/18/2018 at 03:59 PM

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Sorry to have disappointed you. First time since 1971 UCLA has started off 0-3. And after last night, I don't know if it's going to get better this season.


Yeah that 2nd H didn't go well. Took a chance on them figuring some things out at home in game 3. Didn't look like they have anything figured out yet and now Thompson-Robinson's Dad is tweeting his displeasure about Chip Kelly. His son is a true freshman and Chip is in a major project. What is it with UCLA player parents? Well, it isn't just UCLA but just weird they just went through the whole Lavar Ball thing now this.


nebish - 9/20/2018 at 01:07 PM

Yahoo Pick'Em league has an error with the wrong weekly lowest point total being dropped. They are aware of the problem and working on it I guess. I contacted them twice, other groups have the same issue.


nebish - 9/20/2018 at 01:26 PM

Note to those who sometimes forget picks - there are 3 Friday games on the pick'em....two of them should be really good games for some exciting Friday action!


nebish - 9/21/2018 at 08:21 PM

Bhawk - 3 games on the Friday pick'em.

Pretty excited for this FAU-UCF game. Then the night cap Wazzou at USC. A little Penn St - ILL in between to see how Lovie's team looks in year 3 for his B1G opener.


sckeys - 9/21/2018 at 08:34 PM

Iím hoping for a better week with these games. I hope Ark can hold the line on Aub and Oregon prevails. Those are on my other pick. Good luck everybody.


IPowrie - 9/21/2018 at 08:56 PM

Hoping Michigan opens up the offense to start the game. They should beat Nebraska but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't.


Lee - 9/22/2018 at 11:48 AM

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Hoping Michigan opens up the offense to start the game. They should beat Nebraska but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't.


I don't see them losing at home but covering 18 might be a stretch.

I was somewhat surprised Illinois got pounded at home last night as bad as they did.


Sang - 9/22/2018 at 07:57 PM

Illinois was actually winning the game, and were only a few down going into the 4th quarter - then they got outscored 35-0 in the 4th....

[Edited on 9/23/2018 by Sang]


IPowrie - 9/22/2018 at 08:31 PM

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Hoping Michigan opens up the offense to start the game. They should beat Nebraska but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't.


I don't see them losing at home but covering 18 might be a stretch.

I was somewhat surprised Illinois got pounded at home last night as bad as they did.


They covered the spread .


sckeys - 9/23/2018 at 01:45 AM

Somebody has to hold the 10th spot down.


Lee - 9/23/2018 at 12:48 PM

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Hoping Michigan opens up the offense to start the game. They should beat Nebraska but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't.


I don't see them losing at home but covering 18 might be a stretch.

I was somewhat surprised Illinois got pounded at home last night as bad as they did.


They covered the spread .



That game was a joke. I actually got bored. Can't believe how bad Nebraska is.


Lee - 9/23/2018 at 12:54 PM

There were some good games yesterday though.

That Oregon Stanford game was something.

Army taking Oklahoma to OT?

Couldn't believe how well Purdue played.

And closer to home, I won a bet with my neighbor on the Michigan State Indiana game. She owes me $20.


sckeys - 9/23/2018 at 01:41 PM

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There were some good games yesterday though.

That Oregon Stanford game was something.

Army taking Oklahoma to OT?

Couldn't believe how well Purdue played.

And closer to home, I won a bet with my neighbor on the Michigan State Indiana game. She owes me $20.


Agree. Stanford didnít make a pretty start. OK was scary. Congrats on the 20, Ark made sure that I wouldnít be as lucky. I was hoping they could hold the score down.

[Edited on 9/23/2018 by sckeys]


oldcoot - 9/23/2018 at 02:52 PM

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Hoping Michigan opens up the offense to start the game. They should beat Nebraska but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't.


I don't see them losing at home but covering 18 might be a stretch.

I was somewhat surprised Illinois got pounded at home last night as bad as they did.


They covered the spread .



That game was a joke. I actually got bored. Can't believe how bad Nebraska is.



Definitely men against boys. I don't expect much until maybe year three of Frost. Still stuck with Riley's lack of talent bunch.


oldcoot - 9/23/2018 at 02:54 PM

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Hoping Michigan opens up the offense to start the game. They should beat Nebraska but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't.


I don't see them losing at home but covering 18 might be a stretch.

I was somewhat surprised Illinois got pounded at home last night as bad as they did.



They covered 18 both of the first two quarters.


IPowrie - 9/23/2018 at 07:10 PM

I thought it was awesome that Army had the ball for 44 minutes of the game. To bad they couldn't get the win.


StratDal - 9/24/2018 at 12:22 AM

Anyone catch any of the Old Dominion/Va Tech game?! When I saw it listed on the tv channel menu, I LOL'd big time; BFD! Well as I'm checking the channels, OD is ahead. I figured WTH and watched the last 10 minutes. Props to OD for pulling it off. Their RB looked Edgeran James running through UCLA back in the day...

Good bet there will be a baby boom in Norfolk in about 9 months!


leafsfan - 9/24/2018 at 10:10 PM

**** a duck!!! They had them and then pooooooof it was gone!!!

Really still in shock w outcome.

I thought the officiating was terrible. Not sure there we're any guys in the booth to call down.

Oregon looks to be back but if anything Stanford looks mighty. They have more tall guys then most Cdn basketball teams. Their twin tower tight ends we're killers on Saturday.

USC Wash State game was a good one too. Things got goofy in LA in the fourth. The missed targeting call was pathetic.

Again the guys upstairs we're at the buffet table when that happened. Anyone watching saw the blatant hit to the head.

PAC12 is looking good and only going to get better with Oregon back.

DUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


sckeys - 9/28/2018 at 10:57 PM

Playing against the spreads this week in hopes of a change.


nebish - 9/29/2018 at 02:30 PM

Was thinking about you guys last week, lots of games involving our ABB friends.

I think Nebraska bounces back today. I like them coming home off embarrassing loss to home fans. What you going to do hide? Bet the show out today. Both home games were winnable even though they played Troy with backup QB. Martinez said to be fully healthy for today. You never know what Purdue will do to cost them a game.

Would've called for a NW upset of Michigan today but then got the Larkin news. Big blow, they are going to have to get really creative now with their O gameplan vs what was already a daunting task vs that D.

Think SC beats UK today (finally). UK owns them of late, 5 straight. SC's O will be the difference I think.

leafsfan, oh man. I had Ducks last week too, that one hurt...bad. You think they can get off the mat at Cal? Cal head coach played at Oregon. Cal is tough. If Oregon's head is right I think they win though. Cal tough on D, respectable on O but not enough O in my opinion. Quack!

Strat! Your Bruins played so well in the first half. They had energy, looked like they were having fun, thought they might be turning a corner, then the second half came and CU just rolled. That was a hard one to swallow because the schedule doesn't appear to offer too many positives upcoming.

Bet DanB is excited for the Trevor Lawrence era to begin. Big revenge game here. Cuse is tough though. I love Eric Dungey, just the kind of college QB I love, big-physical runner, great arm strength, good enough with accuracy. Nothing personal, I hope Cuse can keep it close again for a good game. Boy Clemson D is pissed about last year though.


sckeys - 9/29/2018 at 03:14 PM

Good summary nebish, I hope you are wrong on Ken-So Carolina tho.


I have to catch my speller since is writes ďnewishĒ if I type yer name.

I wish everyone a great game day.


StratDal - 9/29/2018 at 03:21 PM

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Was thinking about you guys last week, lots of games involving our ABB friends.

I think Nebraska bounces back today. I like them coming home off embarrassing loss to home fans. What you going to do hide? Bet the show out today. Both home games were winnable even though they played Troy with backup QB. Martinez said to be fully healthy for today. You never know what Purdue will do to cost them a game.

Would've called for a NW upset of Michigan today but then got the Larkin news. Big blow, they are going to have to get really creative now with their O gameplan vs what was already a daunting task vs that D.

Think SC beats UK today (finally). UK owns them of late, 5 straight. SC's O will be the difference I think.

leafsfan, oh man. I had Ducks last week too, that one hurt...bad. You think they can get off the mat at Cal? Cal head coach played at Oregon. Cal is tough. If Oregon's head is right I think they win though. Cal tough on D, respectable on O but not enough O in my opinion. Quack!

Strat! Your Bruins played so well in the first half. They had energy, looked like they were having fun, thought they might be turning a corner, then the second half came and CU just rolled. That was a hard one to swallow because the schedule doesn't appear to offer too many positives upcoming.

Bet DanB is excited for the Trevor Lawrence era to begin. Big revenge game here. Cuse is tough though. I love Eric Dungey, just the kind of college QB I love, big-physical runner, great arm strength, good enough with accuracy. Nothing personal, I hope Cuse can keep it close again for a good game. Boy Clemson D is pissed about last year though.


Thanks nebish. I missed the game due to my son's band performance at the local HS's football game (at least they won!). Yep. For all sorts of reasons, UCLA is a bad team. Fans are mad at CCK. Not that we expected to be in the playoff, but the inept play by the team is really surprising. Like you said about the schedule, the Bruins may be lucky if they win 2 games. As the saying goes, that's football.

[Edited on 9/30/2018 by StratDal]


DanB - 9/30/2018 at 01:37 PM

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Was thinking about you guys last week, lots of games involving our ABB friends.



Think SC beats UK today (finally). UK owns them of late, 5 straight. SC's O will be the difference I think.
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Bet DanB is excited for the Trevor Lawrence era to begin. Big revenge game here. Cuse is tough though. I love Eric Dungey, just the kind of college QB I love, big-physical runner, great arm strength, good enough with accuracy. Nothing personal, I hope Cuse can keep it close again for a good game. Boy Clemson D is pissed about last year though.


eFf the gamecocks great win by Kentucky - USC looked inept at times on offense
defense has some thugs on it that have no discipline and this reflects on Muschump

Bad that Trevor got hurt but he'll be back next week. Brice settled down once Renfroe made a spectacular catch. He died a bullet on 4th & 6 on the last drive and ran for a 12 yd gain on the next play.

I kept screaming run the ball because Cuse couldn't stop the run no matter who carried the rock. ET is a special back! 203 yards and 3 td's should put him in the heisman conversation.


fast43 - 9/30/2018 at 02:23 PM

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Think SC beats UK today (finally). UK owns them of late, 5 straight. SC's O will be the difference I think.





Nope, not this year. Even with the officials trying their best to beat us. They may have done it to us for next weeks game against A&M. The late hit by Kash Daniels was not targeting IMO. It looked like he hit him with the shoulder below the shoulder pads.Then the fumbled lateral that was ruled a forward pass, but we overcame it.

Our defense is just too good. Josh Allen is one of the best linebackers in the country, he had three sacks in spite of being held on every play. I liked him since day one. I thought he was a football player the first time I saw him. He's since grown a couple inches and put on about 60 pounds.

We lost our second left tackle this season but Mark Stoops has built a deep team but hopefully E J Clark can stay healthy or then we might be in trouble.

This team is doing things that hasn't been done since Bear Bryant was here with the 1950 team.

Go Big Blue


sckeys - 10/1/2018 at 02:27 AM

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Think SC beats UK today (finally). UK owns them of late, 5 straight. SC's O will be the difference I think.





Nope, not this year. Even with the officials trying their best to beat us. They may have done it to us for next weeks game against A&M. The late hit by Kash Daniels was not targeting IMO. It looked like he hit him with the shoulder below the shoulder pads.Then the fumbled lateral that was ruled a forward pass, but we overcame it.

Our defense is just too good. Josh Allen is one of the best linebackers in the country, he had three sacks in spite of being held on every play. I liked him since day one. I thought he was a football player the first time I saw him. He's since grown a couple inches and put on about 60 pounds.

We lost our second left tackle this season but Mark Stoops has built a deep team but hopefully E J Clark can stay healthy or then we might be in trouble.

This team is doing things that hasn't been done since Bear Bryant was here with the 1950 team.

Go Big Blue


You canít go out the door around here without stepping on a SC fan and they are steaming. Not at Kentucky but calling for coaches to go and hating Clemson as usual. A guy said today that the only good thing for USC was Kentucky burning the clock.


oldcoot - 10/1/2018 at 01:48 PM

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I think Nebraska bounces back today. I like them coming home off embarrassing loss to home fans. What you going to do hide? Bet the show out today. Both home games were winnable even though they played Troy with backup QB. Martinez said to be fully healthy for today. You never know what Purdue will do to cost them a game.



I thought along the same lines, would get max effort and playing at home. Not to be. Literally, could be looking at 1-11. In the past, we went close to a decade with about that number of losses. I've thought all along that it would be year three with Frost before we were solid. At the same time, I thought we'd be around .500 this year.

Things could really get ugly in Madison as our line play (on both sides of the ball) is lacking. And lacking rhymes with shellacking.

Here's a weekly reusable joke for the way things are going:

"Knock knock"

Scott Frost: "Who's there?"

"Owen"

Frost: "Owen who?"

"0-4"


Lee - 10/3/2018 at 09:09 PM

And you go to Wisconsin this week. Good Lord....


nebish - 10/4/2018 at 02:20 PM

Yes, it is great to see Kentucky football playing well. Hated to undersell them last week, but I thought that SCar would have some answers after losing to them 4 straight and some confidence on O out of the Vandy game. But man, I can't imagine the disappointment for an SC fan right now...they were less competitive vs Georgia this year and make no mistake about it, UK is above them in SEC pecking order. Even heard a bench Bentley and fire Muschamp comment.

Nebraska was really disappointing Saturday. The penalties. So many penalties at horrible times. The O in the 2nd H was able to trade scores, but when the D needed a stop, Purdue would just score again. Still think there are positives from the Nebraska home games this year, but too many mistakes and deficiencies to win games. Wisconsin did win at Iowa, but they are not as strong as they were last year. Hard to see Nebraska competing. Unexpected things do happen though.

Will be interested to see the Clemson WF game this week. WF has a pretty good O, but a really bad D. Clemson when clicking has an outstanding O so I expect Clemson to get theirs. WF OL is a strength, so the matchup in the trenches may not tilt as strongly in Clemson's favor as it normally does. Should be a fun game.


leafsfan - 10/9/2018 at 05:43 PM

I get that Bama has more guys going to the NFL then any other program and that anyone would love to have most of their players on their team but jes louise can they at least play someone tough before they are give the golden key to the trophy case.

They haven't played anyone difficult yet and yes they can probably beat anyone but this show up and your number one crap is terrible for the College game. At least ND and Ohio have taken some risk. Bama will play Auburn and Georgia and that's it until the playoffs. I know schedules are set years in advance but rankings should reflect your schedule not your roster.

I know beating a dead horse year after year on this topic. Saban said on Saturday that giving up 31 points to Arkansas is like losing the game. Watch kind of nazi mother **** coach is this guy?

Vent complete, go DUCKS!!!!!


Lee - 10/10/2018 at 11:35 AM

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I know beating a dead horse year after year on this topic. Saban said on Saturday that giving up 31 points to Arkansas is like losing the game. Watch kind of nazi mother **** coach is this guy?




I thought the same thing when I saw that. Remember the game a few years ago when they were destroying someone in the fourth quarter and he was screaming at Lane Kiffin? Does he expect to win every game 70-0?


DanB - 10/13/2018 at 11:29 AM

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Will be interested to see the Clemson WF game this week. WF has a pretty good O, but a really bad D. Clemson when clicking has an outstanding O so I expect Clemson to get theirs. WF OL is a strength, so the matchup in the trenches may not tilt as strongly in Clemson's favor as it normally does. Should be a fun game.


63-3 was a ton of fun. 3 guys rushed for over a 120 yards. CU averaged 11.8 yds per rush.


StratDal - 10/13/2018 at 10:13 PM

Stupid Auburn. Way to screw the pooch Nebraska. Gators did what they had to do.

LSU is ahead of UGA 19-3 but UGA is driving. 4th quarter coming up.

Bruins play kal at 4 pm PDT. Hopefully we get our first win.

Enjoying some nice fall weather here in So Cal (finally rained!) while sipping my usual along with some cool tunes. College football Rocks! GO BRUINS!


sckeys - 10/14/2018 at 12:40 AM

I took a bath on that GA game. Glad I slept thru the 2nd half.


nebish - 10/14/2018 at 03:52 AM

Strat! Bet you couldn't be happier win #1 came at the hands of Kal as you call them!


Lee - 10/14/2018 at 02:13 PM

Looked at my sheet for my picks yesterday and crumpled it up for the trash. Surprisingly I won money on the games I put bets on. Watching the Michigan line move through the week I was apprehensive. When it got to 10 I thought someone knows something. So I loaded up on them.

Loved LSU at home. I can't believe the rout that was. Met a Michigan State buddy yesterday and said I really liked MSU and the points. He sent me an email thanking me. I told him I liked the points but didn't think they could win in Happy Valley.

Thought Illinois could cover 10 at home against Purdue. Boy was I wrong on that one.

Oregon / Washington game was something. I hate that timeout at the last second but it seems to work.

And Nebraska still have't won a game. Crazy.


DanB - 10/14/2018 at 02:27 PM

and your preseason national champs, the Gamecocks, are now 3-3

Will Muschump stated he was bringing championships to SC


Lee - 10/20/2018 at 09:14 PM

Michigan / MSU game was entertaining. Sure was chippy. Not happy with how Michigan played in some cases but we finally won there. Would hope Harbaugh has a chat with a few of his players but knowing him, I wouldn't bet on it.


StratDal - 10/20/2018 at 10:56 PM

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Strat! Bet you couldn't be happier win #1 came at the hands of Kal as you call them!


Sorry for the late reply. Worked for me nebish! Bring On Bama!!!


StratDal - 10/20/2018 at 11:01 PM

Tuned into the Bama - Vol game and it was 28-0 Bama with 3 minutes left in the 1st quarter. Guess the Vols aren't ready for prime time just yet.

Wonder how Auburn will do. If the Tigers lose to Ole Miss, Auburn may win just one more game (Liberty). Question is will Auburn pony up the 30 mill +- to buy out CGM if that happens.

CU's carriage just turned into a pumpkin. Bruins play Arizona tonight. They should beat them but in similar situations, UCLA has made opposing 2nd or 3rd string players (Zona's starting QB is out) look like All Pro by games end.


Lee - 10/22/2018 at 11:36 AM

The biggest problem for Tennessee was the fan that tried to throw ice at Saban, missed and got kicked out by a cop (and probably banned) from the stadium.


Lee - 10/22/2018 at 11:48 AM

I had a nice weekend with my gambling "problem". There were some nail biters regarding spreads though. The Michigan line went up by just a half point so if State had scored at the end I would have lost. Colorado hung on and covered. LOVED the LSU game. Watch out for them.

I didn't watch much of the OSU/Purdue game but wow! My in laws live in West Lafayette and were at the game. I almost wish OSU had won so I wouldn't have to listen to my mother in law crow about Purdue.

Now my Wolverines control their own destiny.

I think Notre Dame has a cakewalk through the rest of their season. They've beaten one good team.


StratDal - 10/22/2018 at 02:41 PM

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The biggest problem for Tennessee was the fan that tried to throw ice at Saban, missed and got kicked out by a cop (and probably banned) from the stadium.


It's the SEC!


Lee - 10/23/2018 at 12:32 PM

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The biggest problem for Tennessee was the fan that tried to throw ice at Saban, missed and got kicked out by a cop (and probably banned) from the stadium.


It's the SEC!



Do they always throw ice at people?


StratDal - 10/26/2018 at 03:23 PM

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The biggest problem for Tennessee was the fan that tried to throw ice at Saban, missed and got kicked out by a cop (and probably banned) from the stadium.


It's the SEC!



Do they always throw ice at people?


I think it was the 2007 Bama-UGA game. UGA scored the game winning td in OT and a number of beverage cups got tossed at the UGA players celebrating. After it happened, fans were complaining on a message board about the cups getting tossed and one poster replied, "It's the SEC. Deal with it." Couldn't have been said any better!


sckeys - 10/26/2018 at 03:56 PM

We settle everything with violence, itís the south. Speak of, I went against Clemson covering last week and they crapped in my hands. I took them to cover this week so letís hope. Papa needs a new pair o shoes.


sckeys - 10/28/2018 at 01:22 AM

I got tied up and thought I made these picks. Iím secured in last place.

I took Texas A and M In another pick and Iím hopeful.


StratDal - 10/28/2018 at 06:20 PM

Crazy day yesterday. Lots of ranked teams lost to unranked. CU blows a 31-3 lead at home against Oregon State to lose the game in OT. That's football


Lee - 10/31/2018 at 10:49 PM

So Maryland changes course and fires Durkin. Interesting...


StratDal - 10/31/2018 at 11:37 PM

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So Maryland changes course and fires Durkin. Interesting...


For starters, my bet is there was about to be a team mutiny.


Lee - 11/2/2018 at 08:11 PM

Looking forward to this weekend. Some good games on the docket:

Michigan State / Maryland
Texas A&M / Auburn
Texas / West Va.
Georgia / Kentucky
Iowa / Purdue
Penn St / Michigan
Northwestern / Notre Dame

And of course, Alabama / LSU. I hope LSU destroys Saban but I doubt it will happen.


nebish - 11/2/2018 at 08:44 PM

What's up fellas!?!

A lot of good games involving teams of interest to our friends here this week. Will be a good one!

We went to the Baylor - West Virginia game. WVU crushed them, but we had to stay til the end so my cousins could sing Country Roads. Going to Kent St - Buffalo next week. Buffalo is having a real nice year.




StratDal - 11/2/2018 at 09:13 PM

Hey Neb et al! Happy College Football Friday! Yep. Good matchups especially in the SEC. UGA vs KY at 12:30 p.m. UGA's offense vs KY's defense. KY's QB made some clutch plays against MO last week. He'll need to do it again Saturday. Looking forward to see what Fromm will do. He sure found his groove again.

I like both squads but since KY is the underdog (and I have KY blood too; Harlan County ), I'm going with the Cats! GO KY BLUE!

Some Jimi Hear My Train A Comming live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6MM0MA94TE


nebish - 11/2/2018 at 11:13 PM

Chip Kelly goes back to Oregon!


DanB - 11/4/2018 at 03:57 PM

when does Bobby Petrino get fired?


StratDal - 11/4/2018 at 04:03 PM

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when does Bobby Petrino get fired?


While I like Louisville, I always smile when Bobby Petrino gets his butt handed to him. Considering all the other drama going on at Louisville (BB for one), I doubt they pull the trigger on him; $$$.


oldcoot - 11/4/2018 at 04:35 PM

Huskers played pretty well but close doesn't count in The Horseshoe. Huskers should win two of their last three, Iowa City will be a tough road game and we haven't won one yet this year. Should be close.

Wasn't at all surprised that 'Bama smoked LSU. Tigers just don't have the offense to have made that a game.

Wouldn't be surprised if 'Cuse beats the Irish in a couple of weeks.


Lee - 11/4/2018 at 04:39 PM

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Huskers played pretty well but close doesn't count in The Horseshoe. Huskers should win two of their last three, Iowa City will be a tough road game and we haven't won one yet this year. Should be close.

Wasn't at all surprised that 'Bama smoked LSU. Tigers just don't have the offense to have made that a game.

Wouldn't be surprised if 'Cuse beats the Irish in a couple of weeks.



Yeah, sure wish the Huskers could have pulled that out. And I don't think Syracuse beats Notre Dame but I hope you are right.

Regarding 'Bama, I figured they would wup LSU. They were favored by 14.5 at LSU. That told me something in and of itself.


Jerry - 11/5/2018 at 04:14 AM

well, right now Georgia Bulldogs are 8 out 9.


Lee - 11/5/2018 at 01:32 PM

Holy Crap! Nebraska is favored by 18 Saturday over Illinois. 18?!?!


nebish - 11/5/2018 at 04:57 PM

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Wouldn't be surprised if 'Cuse beats the Irish in a couple of weeks.


+1

Cuse DL is pretty good. Biggest concern is the back end and if Book has time to throw and make plays. Cuse O should definitely present a good ND D some problems.


oldcoot - 11/5/2018 at 05:01 PM

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Holy Crap! Nebraska is favored by 18 Saturday over Illinois. 18?!?!



Started at 19. All that early Illini money bringing it down....


Lee - 11/5/2018 at 06:54 PM

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Holy Crap! Nebraska is favored by 18 Saturday over Illinois. 18?!?!



Started at 19. All that early Illini money bringing it down....


Illini money? There is none. I think they just gave us a breathing tax.


nebish - 11/6/2018 at 02:17 AM

Sports handicapping website I frequent has people coming out on Illinois. 1) on principle of the line 2) ILL showed some signs of life last week. Even in the Maryland loss, the ILL O has been improving and it has been hard to trust this Nebraska D - but you have to consider how bad the ILL D is as well. With that said, I have bet ILL a few times this year, but not sure I want them here. Doubt I take a position.


nebish - 11/6/2018 at 02:18 AM

So coot, you been playing any games this year?


sckeys - 11/6/2018 at 03:16 AM

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Sports handicapping website I frequent has people coming out on Illinois. 1) on principle of the line 2) ILL showed some signs of life last week. Even in the Maryland loss, the ILL O has been improving and it has been hard to trust this Nebraska D - but you have to consider how bad the ILL D is as well. With that said, I have bet ILL a few times this year, but not sure I want them here. Doubt I take a position.


Itís 18 pts. You only live once.


nebish - 11/6/2018 at 04:07 AM

I'm sure I will have 20 to 30 bets I like better.

Who's winning the SC -UF game?


Lee - 11/6/2018 at 12:49 PM

Saturday was awesome. Although LSU / Bama was anticlimatic.

This weekend has a few good games but not like last weekend.

Wisconsin getting 8 at at Penn State? Seems like too much to me.

I think Mississippi State can give Bama a game. 25 points? Again, seems like too much.

Washington State / Colorado should be a good game.

Don't rule out Auburn at Georgia. It's a stretch but who knows?

I think the best game is going to be OSU at Sparty. Not sure who to take in that. OSU giving 3.5. This should be an awesome game. MSU is starting to play better since Michigan beat them and I don't know what to make to make of the Buckeyes.




DanB - 11/6/2018 at 01:41 PM

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I'm sure I will have 20 to 30 bets I like better.

Who's winning the SC -UF game?



a pillowfight at best but go Gators


StratDal - 11/6/2018 at 01:49 PM

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I'm sure I will have 20 to 30 bets I like better.

Who's winning the SC -UF game?



a pillowfight at best but go Gators


The Gators were my surprise team this season and for a while, it looked like it was going to happen. I was pretty high on Mullen but after watching some of his recent post game pressers plus his antics during the Vandy game, he comes across a bit weird.


hoffcl - 11/6/2018 at 10:05 PM

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I'm sure I will have 20 to 30 bets I like better.

Who's winning the SC -UF game?


SC...FU is toast


hoffcl - 11/6/2018 at 10:21 PM

Actually, one of more intriguing matchups is the battle for the beer barrel. But that's just my opinion.

Kentucky hasn't beaten Vol 2 years runnin' since 1977. The fighting Jeremy Fulmer's admitted they were looking past the Charlotte Juggernaut towards de Cats. Will it payoff?

What else I think makes this game more interesting is we'll get a chance to see just how good a coach is Bob, er uh, Mike, er uh, Mark Stoops is. Will Benny re-emerge from his Snell (see what I did there?). Or will his team come out flat? And, after all, Tennessee took it to Auburn, eh? To me, this game is window into the future. Will UK fold it up after all the emotion of the past few weeks? Or will they rise up and not a pull a Mizzou Mullen. And that's what make it so much fun to watch IMO. I like peering into other people's windows - and I have the restraining orders to prove it.

I simply don't see this match being a run away for either team though. So, just who comes out on top is anyone's guess. I'll lay some real live Tony Barnhardt-esque conventional wisdom on you here....the team that scores the most points will win this game! Will it be a track meet or a low scoring one?


Lee - 11/6/2018 at 10:30 PM

I hate to say this, BELIEVE me I do but I don't see anyone beating Bana. If my Wolverines can stay in this they will likely play Bama and I don't see Meeechigan winning that. I'd say Georgia or Clemson would give them a good shot but Georgia will have two beat them twice. Doubt that will happen.


nebish - 11/6/2018 at 10:50 PM

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I think Mississippi State can give Bama a game. 25 points? Again, seems like too much.


I was trying to figure this one out as well. MSU O has been mega disappointment this year and Fitzgerald hasn't been able to do anything on O...until aTm and LaTech. Those Ds provide the kind of relief MSU needed, Bama will not. Note this is the same team that 201 and 202 yards vs UK and UF and couldn't do much vs LSU just 3 games ago.

So how can they move it or score on Bama when we just saw LSU not do anything?

MSU does seem to have some confidence on that side of the ball right now they lacked before. Can they carry that over and execute better than LSU?

I will give their O a better chance than LSU. Fitz can atleast make some plays running which brings something to the table Borrow didn't last week.

Let's assume that MSU D can duplicate something similar to what LSU D did. Saying maybe they can hold Bama to 31-37 pts? Maybe, perhaps?

If that is the case MSU would need just 7-13 pts to cover.

Might be overly optimistic. MSU D is good. Alabama fans will tell you that. Not sure anyone is going to hold them to less than LSU did last week though. MSU would have to control TOP like 2:1 for that to happen.

Ceiling for MSU O is probably 17 and I imagine would be under the absolute optimum best case scenarios.


nebish - 11/6/2018 at 10:57 PM

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Actually, one of more intriguing matchups is the battle for the beer barrel. But that's just my opinion.

Kentucky hasn't beaten Vol 2 years runnin' since 1977. The fighting Jeremy Fulmer's admitted they were looking past the Charlotte Juggernaut towards de Cats. Will it payoff?

What else I think makes this game more interesting is we'll get a chance to see just how good a coach is Bob, er uh, Mike, er uh, Mark Stoops is. Will Benny re-emerge from his Snell (see what I did there?). Or will his team come out flat? And, after all, Tennessee took it to Auburn, eh? To me, this game is window into the future. Will UK fold it up after all the emotion of the past few weeks? Or will they rise up and not a pull a Mizzou Mullen. And that's what make it so much fun to watch IMO. I like peering into other people's windows - and I have the restraining orders to prove it.

I simply don't see this match being a run away for either team though. So, just who comes out on top is anyone's guess. I'll lay some real live Tony Barnhardt-esque conventional wisdom on you here....the team that scores the most points will win this game! Will it be a track meet or a low scoring one?



I think some people have overreacted a little too much from the Charlotte result. 14-3 is inexcusable, however, don't laugh, Charlotte has some D ,held MTSU to like 144y. This past month 49ers been playing some D now. Think UT was without Chandler and Jennings, mabye they rested some other players too I don't know. UT was in a predictable flat spot last week. I think they play as hard as they can this week, question is will that be enough? Played respectable vs UGA and SC. Beat Auburn with Garantano playing out of his mind with those throws in that game.

UK is hard to judge their mindset. Really long stretch of emotional games. Even if we limit to just looking how the Mizzou game ended and the hype and now disappointment around the UGA game, can they bring up their game for this one to that level they previously have?

Cats love nothing more than to beat UT so that leads me to believe they will/should be pretty up for it.

Is Stoops really > than Pruitt?

UK is a good team, no doubt. They are good. They proved it time and time again. But they haven't scored more than 20 pts in a month. Didn't run a play in aTm territory in regulation. Only managed a FG vs Mizzou through 3 qrts. I'm just saying...they are good but they have some weakness. How will UT match up vs those weaknesses?

I agree, good window to look into.


nebish - 11/6/2018 at 10:58 PM

Since you are here Chris...how bout them Auburn Tigers this week. Maybe Stidham will just throw it 60x, probably the only chance they stand. Auburn D should make you work for it though.


nebish - 11/6/2018 at 11:03 PM

i think Vandy can beat Mizzou this week. Big dog, would pay 664 on a 100.

Kind of like KU vs KSt in the Sunflower state showdown, even with the Beatty firing.

ECU could upset Tulane.

Strat, how about your Bruins this week? Fix those special teams issues from last week and that Oregon game wasn't that lopsided. ASU can be run on.

Big game for the ACC Coastal this week VT at Pitt. I don't believe Clemson has ever beat Pitt @ DanB


Lee - 11/6/2018 at 11:15 PM

The ACC? Do they still have a conference? There are teams from smaller conferences that can beat some of the ACC teams. I think MAC teams could. Buffalo could probably give a few of them a run for their money.


nebish - 11/6/2018 at 11:19 PM

Funny you mention Buffalo. I'm here for the game. 7:30

Buffalo is good. But I think the only ACC team I would pick them to beat is LV. Maybe on the right day they could beat UNC. Now with the spread I'd bet them to play respectable vs a bunch.


DanB - 11/7/2018 at 11:49 AM

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Big game for the ACC Coastal this week VT at Pitt. I don't believe Clemson has ever beat Pitt @ DanB


0-2 I was 9 years old when a Tony Dorsett lead team destroyed CU 34-3 in the '77 Gator Bowl


Lee - 11/7/2018 at 01:31 PM

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Funny you mention Buffalo. I'm here for the game. 7:30

Buffalo is good. But I think the only ACC team I would pick them to beat is LV. Maybe on the right day they could beat UNC. Now with the spread I'd bet them to play respectable vs a bunch.


Ironic! Kind of surprised they aren't ranked. They do get a lot of TV exposure for a mid major. Seems like they are on every week because of the mid week games.

I keep winning $ betting on them. Becoming a fan!


hoffcl - 11/7/2018 at 11:38 PM

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Since you are here Chris...how bout them Auburn Tigers this week. Maybe Stidham will just throw it 60x, probably the only chance they stand. Auburn D should make you work for it though.


It should always be taken seriously. But, I don't think there is any doubt the Gus Bus empties the playbook this weekend.


hoffcl - 11/7/2018 at 11:42 PM

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i think Vandy can beat Mizzou this week. Big dog, would pay 664 on a 100.


Ooh...that's a tall one there big 'un. I actually think Mizzou's wake up call came against Kentucky. I'm sort of glad we've already played 'em. Vandy should have beaten Florida AND Kentucky. But they do what Vandy does best which is, just Vandy being Vandy. You might want to rethink this one Amigo!


nebish - 11/8/2018 at 02:09 AM



Yeah Buffalo has a nice thing going. Some key pieces on O and D that makes them a good group of 5 team.

With Ohio getting their ass kicked at Miami right now, unless that changes the East is about to be theirs! Or else they can earn it next week when they play Ohio.

Went to the original Anchor Bar downtown. Had some wings at Duffs also. That is what you are supposed to do in Buffalo, eat wings right? No problem for me, wings are one of my primary food groups. The suicide sauce at Anchor Bar was delicious!


nebish - 11/8/2018 at 02:14 AM

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i think Vandy can beat Mizzou this week. Big dog, would pay 664 on a 100.


Ooh...that's a tall one there big 'un. I actually think Mizzou's wake up call came against Kentucky. I'm sort of glad we've already played 'em. Vandy should have beaten Florida AND Kentucky. But they do what Vandy does best which is, just Vandy being Vandy. You might want to rethink this one Amigo!


OK, will dig deeper.


Sang - 11/8/2018 at 04:51 AM

Anchor Bar wings were actually as good as advertised..............


Lee - 11/8/2018 at 11:39 AM

Who's the guy at Niagara Falls?


Lee - 11/8/2018 at 11:43 AM

And who is winning the pick em pool?


nebish - 11/8/2018 at 01:01 PM

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Who's the guy at Niagara Falls?


quote:
And who is winning the pick em pool?



oldcoot - 11/8/2018 at 03:21 PM

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So coot, you been playing any games this year?



A few. Have had a buddy play some games that I really liked, Alabama last week for one. Have been on Iowa State in a couple of spots. Not nearly as active as past years.

I do follow the Stanford Steve & The Bear podcast on ESPN Radio. SS has been unbelievably hot this year, something like 33-11 ATS.


oldcoot - 11/8/2018 at 03:22 PM

Now that I mention that, he'll probably crater.


oldcoot - 11/10/2018 at 01:56 AM

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I think Mississippi State can give Bama a game. 25 points? Again, seems like too much.


I was trying to figure this one out as well. MSU O has been mega disappointment this year and Fitzgerald hasn't been able to do anything on O...until aTm and LaTech. Those Ds provide the kind of relief MSU needed, Bama will not. Note this is the same team that 201 and 202 yards vs UK and UF and couldn't do much vs LSU just 3 games ago.

So how can they move it or score on Bama when we just saw LSU not do anything?

MSU does seem to have some confidence on that side of the ball right now they lacked before. Can they carry that over and execute better than LSU?

I will give their O a better chance than LSU. Fitz can atleast make some plays running which brings something to the table Borrow didn't last week.

Let's assume that MSU D can duplicate something similar to what LSU D did. Saying maybe they can hold Bama to 31-37 pts? Maybe, perhaps?

If that is the case MSU would need just 7-13 pts to cover.

Might be overly optimistic. MSU D is good. Alabama fans will tell you that. Not sure anyone is going to hold them to less than LSU did last week though. MSU would have to control TOP like 2:1 for that to happen.

Ceiling for MSU O is probably 17 and I imagine would be under the absolute optimum best case scenarios.



Normally, this might be a letdown possibility for the Tide. I don't think so though.

MSU may be stout on defense but I think they're going to be on the field a lot. I just don't see how MSU generates any offense. Fitzgerald is just a horrible passer. And his time and time again QB draws etc. just won't work against a superlative defense. The only way Fitzgerald could successfully pass a football is if he somehow managed to swallow it first.

MSU could very well be the Tide's second shutout in a row and I don't see how they could possibly score more than 10. I think the Tide covers this one easily.


Lee - 11/10/2018 at 03:39 PM

I don't know why but I'll take that bet.

I detest Alabama that much.


nebish - 11/10/2018 at 06:41 PM

Fitz is going to have to put the entire state of Mississippi on his back just to keep it close.

Remember last year Alabama LBs were decimated by injury for the MSU game. I'm not talking their 2nd string can start anywhere, I think they were down like 5 of their top 6. It really showed in that game last year.

Much respect for Alabama, they deserve all the praise. I'm hoping for a competitive game. I think it is what we all want. Even most Alabama fans would tell you I think they would like to see how this team responds to some adversity because they haven't had any yet. Best to find out now than in perhaps the SEC Title or playoff game.


oldcoot - 11/11/2018 at 02:44 PM

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I don't know why but I'll take that bet.

I detest Alabama that much.


As do I, but as I said, a big goose egg for MSU. Not an easy cover but a cover nonetheless.

Plus, the Huskers cover giving up 35.


nebish - 11/11/2018 at 05:14 PM

I'm looking forward to the next Nebraska win over Michigan State this week....or is this Husker D so bad that even MSU will be able to score on them?

Mississippi State had a TD taken off the board twice. The delay of game was on them. The phantom block in the back as the receiver crossed the goal line, well that was some home cooking.


nebish - 11/11/2018 at 05:16 PM

Northwestern wins the B1G West!!

I hate rematches so instead of wanting Michigan to beat Ohio St in 2 weeks I guess I will have to want Ohio State to win now.


nebish - 11/11/2018 at 05:17 PM

Bobby Petrino fired! Jeff Brohm's phone is going to be ringing. Hate it for Purdue, would've loved him to stay there.

Clay Helton will be fired soon too.


Lee - 11/11/2018 at 10:29 PM

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I'm looking forward to the next Nebraska win over Michigan State this week....or is this Husker D so bad that even MSU will be able to score on them?

Mississippi State had a TD taken off the board twice. The delay of game was on them. The phantom block in the back as the receiver crossed the goal line, well that was some home cooking.


I dunno. Michigan State is not as bad as Nebraska. Be interesting to see the spread. I don't think it matters that the game is in Lincoln.


Lee - 11/11/2018 at 10:36 PM

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Bobby Petrino fired! Jeff Brohm's phone is going to be ringing. Hate it for Purdue, would've loved him to stay there.

Clay Helton will be fired soon too.



Saw that. Not sure I would leave a Big Ten school to go to the mess that is Louisville.


nebish - 11/11/2018 at 11:11 PM

Michigan State -1.5


Lee - 11/12/2018 at 08:20 PM

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Michigan State -1.5


Against Nebraska this week? They should be able to beat the Huskers.


oldcoot - 11/13/2018 at 04:31 PM

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Michigan State -1.5


Against Nebraska this week? They should be able to beat the Huskers.



I guess we'll see.


Lee - 11/13/2018 at 06:45 PM

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Michigan State -1.5


Against Nebraska this week? They should be able to beat the Huskers.



I guess we'll see.



Well duh. Of course we will!


oldcoot - 11/14/2018 at 04:17 PM

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Michigan State -1.5


Against Nebraska this week? They should be able to beat the Huskers.



I guess we'll see.



Well duh. Of course we will!



30 degree temperature drop from Friday to game day in Lincoln, decent chance of snow, windy. Lovely football weather. Saw at one point at least, the game had moved to Pick 'Em.


oldcoot - 11/14/2018 at 04:19 PM

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quote:
So coot, you been playing any games this year?



A few. Have had a buddy play some games that I really liked, Alabama last week for one. Have been on Iowa State in a couple of spots. Not nearly as active as past years.

I do follow the Stanford Steve & The Bear podcast on ESPN Radio. SS has been unbelievably hot this year, something like 33-11 ATS.


Last week, Stanford Steve was 3-2 with a one yard line bad beat on one game, The Bear was 3-1. You can make money going 6-3.


nebish - 11/14/2018 at 11:48 PM

Wonder if this is Bill Snyder's final home game?


StratDal - 11/16/2018 at 11:56 PM

Too bad Rivalry Saturday (Saturday before Thanksgiving) has gone to hell. It used to be such an epic day in college football. That being said, GO BRUINS! BEAT sc!


[Edited on 11/16/2018 by StratDal]


sckeys - 11/17/2018 at 02:07 AM

Michigan St or Nebraska?


Lee - 11/17/2018 at 12:54 PM

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Michigan St or Nebraska?



MSU. Sorry coot but they are better.


oldcoot - 11/18/2018 at 04:44 PM

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Michigan St or Nebraska?



MSU. Sorry coot but they are better.



Not so fast there Sparty!

Ugly game in tough conditions. Kind of refreshing though to see a game that doesn't end up 55-45.


Lee - 11/18/2018 at 04:50 PM

Who is Sparty? I am a Meeechigan fan. Only root for MSU when I have to.


oldcoot - 11/18/2018 at 07:39 PM

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Who is Sparty? I am a Meeechigan fan. Only root for MSU when I have to.


No doubt.

What's your read on Mich/Ohio St? The rivalry may bring the best out of them but I really don't think the Buckeyes are all that good.


oldcoot - 11/19/2018 at 05:48 PM

Wolverines early four point favorites.


DanB - 11/22/2018 at 01:42 PM

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Wolverines early four point favorites.


pulling for Big Blue

detest the buckeyes more than the gamecocks


DanB - 11/22/2018 at 01:44 PM

Clemson 21-3


at the half


48-10 final

eff the chickens


sckeys - 11/22/2018 at 04:33 PM

48-10 sounds like a good day. That will tie the 5 in a row my USC buds were so happy to talk about a few years back.


nebish - 11/22/2018 at 07:58 PM

Fun final regular season weekend lined up! Couple games today, a bunch Friday (6 in the pick'em) and then our last full Saturday. Last weekend with all teams in action is always bitter sweet for me.

Have a good one fellas!

Hail State. Go Big Red. Loyal and Bold We're the Purple and Gold. Go Bulls. Fight Mountaineers. Go Blue. Go Deacs. Go Terps. Rocky Top. Fight On. Go USU Aggies! Among other rooting interests.


DanB - 11/23/2018 at 01:31 PM

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48-10 sounds like a good day. That will tie the 5 in a row my USC buds were so happy to talk about a few years back.


I hope we hang 60 on them


Lee - 11/23/2018 at 10:23 PM

Losing my ass betting games so far this weekend. I need something to really help me pull up my scores!


oldcoot - 11/23/2018 at 10:30 PM

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Losing my ass betting games so far this weekend. I need something to really help me pull up my scores!



Had a buddy indicate the over ( 50 1/2 ) in East Carolina/Cincinnati was a lock so I jumped in on that one. Halftime score is 42-6.


Lee - 11/23/2018 at 10:35 PM

Sounds like the Rams / Chiefs game. Didn't care who won, just keep scoring.


sckeys - 11/24/2018 at 12:41 AM

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Losing my ass betting games so far this weekend. I need something to really help me pull up my scores!


Iím crossing my fingers that Michigan and LSU save my day.


nebish - 11/24/2018 at 05:27 AM

Yeah I didn't have a good day either, 5-8-1. Kent State was my favorite, bet them ML and ATS. Really liked it. Still like it. Would bet it if they played tomorrow. Kent had 2 really bad and 1 other sort of bad 4th down calls, trick play variety where they just looked lost and EM ate them up. Still only lost by 8 (getting 12), pretty sure Kent outgained them in yards. 2 critical turnovers. But on the other hand that is what bad teams do. Did hit Kent, Kent 2nd H, Nebraska, Buffalo, Virginia 2nd H.

That UVA - VT game was crazy! Only two good games today, Neb - Iowa...I guess Houston - Memphis was good for 3 qrts. That OU - WVU game was junk. UW - Wazzou seemed predictable what was going to happen. I just watched waiting to see the final with glazed over eyes.

I am kind of hitting a wall. I obsess SO much on college football, literally I burn myself out. That moment is now. Just playing out the string. Will hope for some recharge before bowl season.


DanB - 11/24/2018 at 11:45 AM

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I am kind of hitting a wall. I obsess SO much on college football, literally I burn myself out. That moment is now. Just playing out the string. Will hope for some recharge before bowl season.



brush up the on history of Clemson vs Scar, read the message boards, FGF for the chickens is high comedy, develop a hatred of the coots

Death Valley will be rocking tonight


Lee - 11/24/2018 at 01:20 PM

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I am kind of hitting a wall. I obsess SO much on college football, literally I burn myself out. That moment is now. Just playing out the string. Will hope for some recharge before bowl season.



brush up the on history of Clemson vs Scar, read the message boards, FGF for the chickens is high comedy, develop a hatred of the coots

Death Valley will be rocking tonight


Who plays football in the south? BIG TEN!


DanB - 11/24/2018 at 02:28 PM

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I am kind of hitting a wall. I obsess SO much on college football, literally I burn myself out. That moment is now. Just playing out the string. Will hope for some recharge before bowl season.



brush up the on history of Clemson vs Scar, read the message boards, FGF for the chickens is high comedy, develop a hatred of the coots

Death Valley will be rocking tonight


Who plays football in the south? BIG TEN!


not the big 10 here's sa male size

Mich vs the ACC 3- 16
Ohio St vs ACC 8-10

Clemson vs B10 4-1


nebish - 11/24/2018 at 02:49 PM

I'm back! Got a little pumped on some Jeff Beck, Cream and Luther Allison this morning.

This is it! The last real Saturday of college football for the year!!!


Lee - 11/24/2018 at 03:45 PM

GO BLUE! Screw the Bucknuts!


oldcoot - 11/24/2018 at 04:33 PM

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I'm back! Got a little pumped on some Jeff Beck, Cream and Luther Allison this morning.

This is it! The last real Saturday of college football for the year!!!



Welcome back! What Luther did you play?

Kinda jumped back into things this week. Got the Mich/Ohio St under at 56 1/2, I see it's all the way down to 52 1/2. Had Mizzou yesterday, that was easy. And the Cincinnati over, don't even have to mention E Carolina, Bearcats went over by themselves. Had Oklahoma and got a push.

Took Washington straight up and have them in a three team underdog money line parlay too (just for fun). Need Indiana and Utah State to pull that off. Also have the Irish. How soon after the game is Helton shown the door?


DanB - 11/25/2018 at 03:03 PM

56-35 and it shouldn't have been that close but the chickens scored on 2 busted coverages and also one late against the 3rd stringers

the coots face big ol Akron next week as a late schedule change since the Marshall was canceled due to the hurricane. They could have rescheduled Marsahall this week but chose Akron so they can be bowl eligible.

Clemson had td pass dropped and also a TD called back on a phantom offensive PI

it could have been 70-21


DanB - 11/25/2018 at 03:04 PM

Jim Hairball CANNOT beat Ohio St

Michigan looked slooooooow


nebish - 11/25/2018 at 04:08 PM

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I'm back! Got a little pumped on some Jeff Beck, Cream and Luther Allison this morning.

This is it! The last real Saturday of college football for the year!!!



Welcome back! What Luther did you play?

Kinda jumped back into things this week. Got the Mich/Ohio St under at 56 1/2, I see it's all the way down to 52 1/2. Had Mizzou yesterday, that was easy. And the Cincinnati over, don't even have to mention E Carolina, Bearcats went over by themselves. Had Oklahoma and got a push.

Took Washington straight up and have them in a three team underdog money line parlay too (just for fun). Need Indiana and Utah State to pull that off. Also have the Irish. How soon after the game is Helton shown the door?


It was Give Me Back My Wig off the Chicago CD.

Had fun yesterday, made up for Friday lack-luster-ness.

I predominantly bet underdogs and I don't just want to find the ones that cover ATS, I really really like playing some money lines. Very fun and intense when you have a TD+ dog not only covering, but when you bet them to win straight up with the odds you get paid it makes for a really fun game. Wake, Maryland, Minnesota and BYU were the ones yesterday. Mary got crushed of course, and BYU kept me on the edge of my seat before Utah took the lead for the first time of the whole game with 3min left. But it was fun! WF and Minny were great. Although full disclosure, I bet Minnesota every year vs Wisconsin, so I'm probably still in the hole on that series. PJ Fleck Q: 'how elite are you feeling right now? A: 'probably the most elite I've ever felt'. Who cares this is the worst Wisconsin has been in 10 years...it's the Axe! Unfortunately I gave too much back on Utah State at night.

I know we have alot of Big Ten fans here. Boy does the league really suck this year. Wonder if bad Ohio State will show up next week? Go Cats!


nebish - 11/25/2018 at 04:29 PM

Pick'em update.

I haven't mentioned this all year because it isn't my style really, but it's about time...I'm leading the pick'em by 23 games! Can't remember anyone running away with it like that. In other news, only 2 games separate 2nd - 5th and 6th-8th within striking distance of moving up so lots of competition among the group yet to be decided.

One more week to go. Not sure how many games yahoo will select from what's on the schedule, I assume all 9 conference championship games will be on there.

Glad that everyone has stuck with it...except for Bhawk. But Bhawk forgetting at some point was -750. Steep odds to lay but easy money given his track record.

Hope you all had fun following along. We'll do a bowl pick'em again too.


nebish - 11/25/2018 at 04:32 PM

Clemson allowed 600y and 8.0 yards per play. It's ok Danb, I don't think Pitt has the ability to exploit the pass D weakness. But somebody in the playoff might.


tbomike - 11/25/2018 at 05:12 PM

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I am kind of hitting a wall. I obsess SO much on college football, literally I burn myself out. That moment is now. Just playing out the string. Will hope for some recharge before bowl season.



brush up the on history of Clemson vs Scar, read the message boards, FGF for the chickens is high comedy, develop a hatred of the coots

Death Valley will be rocking tonight


Who plays football in the south? BIG TEN!


not the big 10 here's sa male size

Mich vs the ACC 3- 16
Ohio St vs ACC 8-10

Clemson vs B10 4-1


What is the source for those numbers?

https://www.topdan.com/sports/college-football-conference-records/big-ten.h tml


oldcoot - 11/26/2018 at 04:40 PM

Saw early lines:

Bama -10 1/2

Ohio St -14

Clemspn -25

Wash -3

OU -7 1/2


Lee - 11/26/2018 at 08:08 PM

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I know we have alot of Big Ten fans here. Boy does the league really suck this year. Wonder if bad Ohio State will show up next week? Go Cats!


Huh? Do you follow college football?

Three teams are in the top twelve. Sorry it isn't everyone's darling SEC.


nebish - 11/26/2018 at 10:28 PM

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Huh? Do you follow college football?

Three teams are in the top twelve. Sorry it isn't everyone's darling SEC.


Ah, yeah I follow college football.

And because I watch the actual games I can say, the Big Ten sucks this year.

Ohio State? This is the worst version of Ohio State since 2011. Not a great team. You watch the games vs Maryland, Minnesota, Indiana, Purdue...do you think this Ohio State team is great and compares favorably to their past editions under CUM?

Michigan...Michigan had a nice season, which means absolutely nothing now after getting drubbed in their biggest and most important game of the year. That #1 defense is literally a national laughing stock right now.

Northwestern the West Champ. Hey, I have no problem with an 8-4 Northwestern. That is about what they should be every year. But they were 10-3 last year so certainly a case can be made they are worse this year than last. What's the difference? NW benefited from a weaker Big Ten and weaker West division this year.

Who else should we talk about...Wisconsin, not a good team. Michigan State? Michigan St is just as inept on offense right now as they ever EVER have been. You watch any of that Rutgers game?

Purdue? Sure they beat Ohio STate (who isn't great) and then look what they did after that...barely got to 6 wins. They lost at home to EAstern Michigan.

Penn State? Obviously down from the previous two seasons.

Iowa - about average for them. Minnesota - about average for them. Indiana - about average for them. Illinois bad. Rutgers bad. Maryland - about average for them. Nebraska, will be back, but not good right now.

So I mean, what do you have to say to this? The Big Ten sucks this year. I don't care about rankings. Rankings I don't watch. Football I watch. Tell me, have you seen something different than I have?


Lee - 11/27/2018 at 01:38 PM

Wow, seem to have struck a chord. Sorry. My bad...


nebish - 11/27/2018 at 02:39 PM

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Wow, seem to have struck a chord. Sorry. My bad...


No that is the fun part, debate!


StratDal - 11/27/2018 at 03:46 PM

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Huh? Do you follow college football?

Three teams are in the top twelve. Sorry it isn't everyone's darling SEC.


Ah, yeah I follow college football.

And because I watch the actual games I can say, the Big Ten sucks this year.

Ohio State? This is the worst version of Ohio State since 2011. Not a great team. You watch the games vs Maryland, Minnesota, Indiana, Purdue...do you think this Ohio State team is great and compares favorably to their past editions under CUM?

Michigan...Michigan had a nice season, which means absolutely nothing now after getting drubbed in their biggest and most important game of the year. That #1 defense is literally a national laughing stock right now.

Northwestern the West Champ. Hey, I have no problem with an 8-4 Northwestern. That is about what they should be every year. But they were 10-3 last year so certainly a case can be made they are worse this year than last. What's the difference? NW benefited from a weaker Big Ten and weaker West division this year.

Who else should we talk about...Wisconsin, not a good team. Michigan State? Michigan St is just as inept on offense right now as they ever EVER have been. You watch any of that Rutgers game?

Purdue? Sure they beat Ohio STate (who isn't great) and then look what they did after that...barely got to 6 wins. They lost at home to EAstern Michigan.

Penn State? Obviously down from the previous two seasons.

Iowa - about average for them. Minnesota - about average for them. Indiana - about average for them. Illinois bad. Rutgers bad. Maryland - about average for them. Nebraska, will be back, but not good right now.

So I mean, what do you have to say to this? The Big Ten sucks this year. I don't care about rankings. Rankings I don't watch. Football I watch. Tell me, have you seen something different than I have?


Well at least the Big 10 still has a dog in the playoff hunt (Ohio State needs some help) but the Pac12 has been %^#(*. Like Michigan, WSU laid an egg against the Huskies and at home too.

I like watching Alabama's offense play (Tua throws the best pass; heck I could catch them) but I'd like to see Georgia win this Saturday. Congrats to ND for going undefeated. Some games weren't pretty but the Irish got it done which included a lot of traveling too.

As for my Bruins, we didn't expect a New Years Day game but neither 3-9. CCK has his work cut out for him this offseason.

Good luck to all those who have teams playing this Saturday. Crazy things can happen in conference games.


Lee - 11/27/2018 at 05:02 PM

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Wow, seem to have struck a chord. Sorry. My bad...


No that is the fun part, debate!



Okay, I'll play.

You said you don't care about rankings. Fair enough. BUT, don't you think Ohio State, Oklahoma, Georgia and UCF care about the rankings? Obviously only four teams get in.

You may not care about the rankings but they matter, regardless of our thoughts.

Hey, it's a better system than we had.


Lee - 11/27/2018 at 05:37 PM

Wow, Mack Brown gets the North Carolina job. Good for him! I thought Texas kind of screwed him over. I think he's 67 so he could probably get through a few recruiting classes. Happy for him.

I think he's a great coach.


StratDal - 11/28/2018 at 12:57 AM

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Wow, Mack Brown gets the North Carolina job. Good for him! I thought Texas kind of screwed him over. I think he's 67 so he could probably get through a few recruiting classes. Happy for him.

I think he's a great coach.


I thought he was in his 70s. If he still has the coaching bug, go get'em Mack!


nebish - 11/28/2018 at 04:34 AM

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Okay, I'll play.

You said you don't care about rankings. Fair enough. BUT, don't you think Ohio State, Oklahoma, Georgia and UCF care about the rankings? Obviously only four teams get in.

You may not care about the rankings but they matter, regardless of our thoughts.

Hey, it's a better system than we had.


Before the rankings part, just remember I said the Big Ten sucks this year, it is compared to prior years of the Big Ten. One could measure the strength of the league by the number of teams that are ranked, or if one or more teams makes the playoff. I think that is kind of abstract way of doing it. Top to bottom through this year, well maybe not bottom, but top through middle the 2018 Big Ten is not as good as 2017 or 2016. Maybe sucks was a little over dramatic, but not nearly as good and no number of teams ranked in the top whatever can tell me this 2018 Big Ten is as good or better than prior years because it's not.

Ok. The teams don't control who the committee selects. The teams don't control where they get ranked. Do they care about rankings? Well coach speak we get from August through most of November coaches will say things like "we just have to focus on us and our team and getting better" or "we have a good opponent this week that is all we can worry about". Because rankings are part of the outside "noise". How many times have you heard coaches and athletes say 'control what you can control'. The extent these teams care about rankings, they won't really care much until after they play their final game or entering their final game because at that point they have done all they can do, they have controlled as much as they can control and then it is in somebody else's hands.

The rankings matter for what...maybe a pool of 8-12 teams in the country. Really there are only a handful of teams that start the season with a realistic chance of being selected for a national title playoff. There are 130 teams in IA / FBS college football. I care just as much about Marshall playing Virginia Tech this week as I do Alabama playing Georgia. I just don't need any kind of ranking or title game to tell me which game I'm supposed to care about. Playoff implications mean nothing to Marshall or Virginia Tech, or Stanford or Cal, but they are going to go out and play a game and compete just to win the game. That is good enough for me without any bigger picture things at stake (VT is playing for bowl eligibility).

The playoff and the national championship is really just a small portion of the overall season and what teams play for. Over 90% of the teams have a very slim chance of being ranked in the top 4 any given year, so then I would say I care about the playoff like 10% of my interest. In all honesty I don't even watch all of the national title game. I didn't see the second half of last year's game. I didn't watch the FSU-Auburn game. They were both great games, I just didn't need the entertainment those nights, the season was already over for me and who won the final game was meaningless. I get I'm the exception as the average fan probably is more drawn to that game than a random week 9 game. But bet your bottom dollar that first game of the year, I don't care if it is Wake Forest at Tulane I am dialed in on that baby.

Is the system better than what we had? I do like 4 teams qualifying for the title pool although I have some different feelings on how they should be selected. I hate the committee. If the conversation goes to "6 or 8 would be better than we have now"...I would have a problem with that and could only go allow with such change under some very specific criteria. 4 is the best number. Very selective based on results, as it should be.

Look at this year. We have two, probably three excellent teams. You don't have to be undefeated to be a great team, who and how you beat teams and who and how you lost to makes up the resume that everyone should be graded by. But we have Alabama, Clemson and Notre Dame all great teams. ND is surely the most vulnerable and suspicious of the 3, but I definitely say they deserve to be in the group and it would be a shame if they were left out just as other #3 teams had been left out of the BCS system. Now we have flawed teams trying to fill this #4 spot. I'm ok with letting a flawed team in to ensure we include a #3 team who deserves it. But if we are going out to 6 or 8 teams we are going to get a lot of warts compared to the cream of the crop and frankly I don't think teams deserve a national title shot when you go that far down the list because there are reasons they are ranked there and not among the top 4 and in major college football, determining a national champion has always been about the very best teams out there. You go too far down the list and those teams haven't put in the work to be considered among the best.

I could go on about how I would improve the current system. Or you want to start talking P5 vs G5 and if they should or how they could gain greater access to a national title chance I have opinions on that too if you are interested. Or feel free to express your thoughts.

I used to post all the time about all kinds of CFB topics. I still have that in me, I just don't do it here that much. I am ready and willing to exchange any thoughts you would like to exchange.


Lee - 11/28/2018 at 01:12 PM

Regarding your comment about rankings only mattering for 8-12 teams, I totally agree with that. Beyond that, it's probably just a prestige thing. Conference bragging rights I suppose.

But I don't think claiming a particular conference sucks is much of a debate. Sounds more like a definitive statement to me.

I think there's a lot of subjectivity in college sports regarding who is best. The top three this year should be the top three since they are all undefeated. The next few? Everyone could make a case for a particular team. You have three teams with a loss and UCF which is of course making their case. My Wolverines with two losses are as high as they deserve to be.

For another example of subjectivity, look at college hoops. Every March there are teams that claim they should be in The Dance. Another example of subjectivity.

I used the word "subjectivity" too much.


nebish - 11/28/2018 at 02:17 PM

It is subjective how many times you are being subjective.

I really like the fact that the eligible teams at the end of the year who compete for the national title are among the very very very best, an elite group who have displayed excellence throughout the year, the teams at the top of the rankings. I do not think it would be the right thing to do if we had an expanded playoff and saw some 8th ranked 2 loss team that had already lost to two teams ranked ahead of them win it all just because they were playing the best football at the end of the year. To me, those loses they suffered earlier in the season should matter and be held against them.

I mentioned I hate the committee. I do. I do not like the fact that a group of people can sit in a room and pick Ohio State over Penn State in 2016 when Penn State had beat Ohio State, Penn State won the division and Penn State won the league. To take Ohio State over Penn State at that point is the exact opposite thing we should be doing. We should reward teams who win conferences. Even though they went on to win it all, I do not believe that Alabama last year, or Ohio State in 2016 should be in the playoff when they aren't the best team in their division, why should they be allowed to compete among other best teams who are conference champions?

We had that problem with the BCS too and I've always hated it.

I would love for the conference title games to be a prerequisite for advancing into the playoff. That adds to the playoff really. And does make the qualifying process of the regular season to win one's division part of the playoff as well.

So if you give me 4 teams, conference champions only, the highest ranked 4 champions I would be very happy with this system. I would reduce the impact the committee has with their subjectivity because the field of teams eligible is further reduced giving them fewer choices and making the actual games won matter more.

I think it would be great if the Group of 5 did their own 4 team playoff. There are some obvious and not so obvious problems with that, but I feel that would be the best solution to their access problem. Really, in the scenario I just typed about getting 4 conference champions only, UCF would have greater access to that because, if Georgia beats Alabama this week, or if Northwestern beats Ohio State or if Pitt were to beat Clemson...that opens the door for UCF to be a conference champion ranked higher than NW or Pitt and it wouldn't matter if Bama or Clemson or OSU were still ranked above UCF at that point because if UCF won they would be eligible for the 4 team playoff and the loser of those P5 title games would not.


oldcoot - 11/29/2018 at 01:53 AM

Neb, who you like this weekend?


nebish - 11/29/2018 at 02:08 AM

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Neb, who you like this weekend?


Well, really I haven't thought about it much. It's historically not a strong week to pick for me as the matchups don't suit my picking style. I do like Buffalo. Maybe UAB, Texas, ULL, Fresno, Pitt and Marshall.


oldcoot - 11/29/2018 at 02:39 AM

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Neb, who you like this weekend?


Well, really I haven't thought about it much. It's historically not a strong week to pick for me as the matchups don't suit my picking style. I do like Buffalo. Maybe UAB, Texas, ULL, Fresno, Pitt and Marshall.





Quite a few of the dogs then.

I really like Clemson and I also think OU will be out to avenge their archrival loss from earlier plus try to stay ahead of Ohio State in the committee's view. That OU defense, or extreme lack thereof, does concern me though. Also, I believe the OU/Tex game is early. If OU would happen to wax the Longhorns, and the Buckeyes have that knowledge I could see them really struggling with Northwestern. Conversely, if OU gets beat, that Big Ten game could turn into a beatdown.


nebish - 11/29/2018 at 02:54 AM

Yeah I predominantly bet underdogs or small favorites. I might bet a dozen double digit favorites over the course of the entire year.

4 TDs in a conference title game. I take that on principle almost without even knowing the names of the teams.

I also have a hard time with the "they will want to impress" type thinking because they are playing a team on the other side of the ball who is trying to win for their own reasons. We were talking about some games last week elsewhere and somebody said about the Holy War "these kids don't want to be the ones that let the winning streak snap in their home finale"...well yeah, they might not want to, but BYU had plans of their own. Now Utah came back to win, but trailed for 57 minutes and failed to cover. Same with Wisconsin "they might be down this year, but they will be up for this game to not be the ones that gave the Axe back to Minnesota"...sure they didn't want to lose the Axe, but just because they don't want to or want to do something doesn't mean it happens like that.

So I think like that sometimes.

I am going to be full bore rooting for Northwestern to win. I have no interest in betting Ohio State to lay 2 TDs even after seeing the Michigan game because I can't un-see all their prior defensive breakdowns and poor OL blocking games.

Good luck on what you decide. I really enjoy finding off the radar games to bet usually so that is why this week isn't my kind of week.


sckeys - 11/29/2018 at 03:14 AM

It is slim this week. I was hoping OU would be a good pick but Iíve noted the reservations that nebish stated above.


nebish - 11/29/2018 at 04:02 AM

I've in general been a fan of Herman's job at Texas and Orlando's defenses there. It can be a challenge to play good D in the Big Xll.

The biggest x-factor in the game is Kyler Murray running. If you watched the WVU game, you can see just how dangerous he is and difficult to account for. If you rush him he can escape and make big plays running. If you rush 3 and drop 8 as WVU often did to try and keep him in the pocket and throw, then the D can't cover for that long and he eventually finds somebody to throw to. OU's traditional running game isn't as good as it used to be (when Anderson was healthy) so Murray is the one that does most of the damage.

Texas O doesn't have this kind of capability. Ellingher is a good running QB, the kind that lowers his shoulder (too often, he's injured it a couple games ago). So the Texas O just isn't as dynamic and is more dependent on the actual play calls working than making it happen on the fly like OU is.

The thing that helps all of OU's opponents is how poor their effort, scheme discipline and tackling are on D. The Sooners tend to make even an average offense look great (see Kansas 2 weeks ago).

Texas was able to build a nice lead vs OU the last game, I think they may've led by 3 scores if I remember right. UT will be lucky to have that kind of lead again this time, it's just hard to image OU falling that far behind...even if they do, like they did before they certainly possess the capability to come back.

I will say that Tom Herman's teams are fantastic underdogs with 3 straight up wins when dogged this year. Last year they only pulled two upsets including the bowl win, but they were 5-1 ATS as a dog. It goes back to Houston too where Herman teams were a perfect 5-0 straight up when underdogs. That makes a 13-1 record ATS as a dog. Whatever he does, it works.

Biggest concern for backing Texas would be Ellingher's health. He didn't look like himself vs Kansas. He wasn't bashful about running tough as always and delivering hits, but his decisions and/or confidence wasn't quite normal throwing leading to accuracy issues. If that happens again here it is going to be trouble. His history says he is excellent protecting the ball while still making big plays so KU game is either an anomaly or there is something more to it.


oldcoot - 11/29/2018 at 05:15 PM

Yes, I read about with Texas and Houston Herman's squads are 12-0-1 ATS as a dog.

I've generally taken whoever lost a rivalry game when that team gets a second shot the same year. And, I did see Ehlinger's struggles last week, I agree with you that he seems to definitely be playing hurt. I'll roll the dice with the Sooners.

I think Dabo is likely justifiably upset with the "effort" of Clemson's defense last week. I imagine that they'll play with their hair on fire this week. I don't see Pitt possibly scoring more than 10. Just have a feeling that Clemson crushes 'em this weekend.


oldcoot - 11/29/2018 at 07:02 PM

Neb, check your PMs.


Lee - 11/29/2018 at 08:26 PM

Yeah, I think the Ohio St / NU game could be interesting depending on what happens earlier. I saw Lincoln Riley getting asked about that and he actually didn't really dance around the question.

Because I think Alabama will beat Georgia and then it depends (assuming of course they win) who would get in, Oklahoma or Ohio State?

My prediction is that Ohio State gets in. I'd give them a shot against Alabama. One of my best friends is a die hard Buckeye. He thinks this will be Urban's last go around. Can't say I disagree with that. Can't blame the guy but given his health issues I can certainly understand if he decided to bow out.

Should be a fun weekend!


Lee - 11/29/2018 at 08:52 PM

And yes, Harbaugh can't beat anyone. Not sure who would be a reasonable replacement but I think Michigan could afford to pay him off and be done with it. It's ben a mess.


IPowrie - 11/29/2018 at 09:30 PM

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And yes, Harbaugh can't beat anyone. Not sure who would be a reasonable replacement but I think Michigan could afford to pay him off and be done with it. It's ben a mess.


He's not going anywhere but does seem to have some John Cooper in him


nebish - 11/30/2018 at 12:46 AM

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Yes, I read about with Texas and Houston Herman's squads are 12-0-1 ATS as a dog.

I've generally taken whoever lost a rivalry game when that team gets a second shot the same year. And, I did see Ehlinger's struggles last week, I agree with you that he seems to definitely be playing hurt. I'll roll the dice with the Sooners.

I think Dabo is likely justifiably upset with the "effort" of Clemson's defense last week. I imagine that they'll play with their hair on fire this week. I don't see Pitt possibly scoring more than 10. Just have a feeling that Clemson crushes 'em this weekend.


Taking Oklahoma and Clemson would be the reasonable, more likely things to do. I tend to expect the unexpected and pick that way. But over the long run, if you bank on what should happen with better teams in better situations you do well.

With Oklahoma you obviously will have the best player on the field. And while I said I'm not a big fan of picking games on the "they will want to" angle, if OU is up one score and in position to kill some clock or add another one, then your point becomes more valid.

And with Pitt, it is hard to see Pitt being the kind of team that can challenged Clemson. We know they beat Clemson in 2016, but that Pitt team was built different than how this one tries to move the ball and win. I still think they might be alright trying to hang in a 28 pt number...but yeah, I watched the entire Duke-Clemson game and when that D is dialed in a team like Duke, or Pitt in this case is really up against it.

Do you bet team totals? I do not. Maybe a few during bowl season. But I wonder what Pitt's team total points will be?


nebish - 11/30/2018 at 12:56 AM

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And yes, Harbaugh can't beat anyone. Not sure who would be a reasonable replacement but I think Michigan could afford to pay him off and be done with it. It's ben a mess.


He's not going anywhere but does seem to have some John Cooper in him


I love Harbaugh. I loved him at Stanford. I love him at Michigan.

I just like his personality, his attitude and think he is good to have in the college game.

And it makes me sad to see that Michigan is not getting the results because that might lead to Jim wanting to leave, or as we are seeing, more frustration from Michigan fans.

But I can't imagine a better fit. He played at Michigan under Bo. He has played in the NFL and coached in the NFL. And he has won in the NFL and at the major college level. That Stanford rebuild was no joke, they were BAD when he came in and USC was on top of th the world and he knocked them off. He has the exact resume you would want. I want him to succeed there. But after 4 years what do they have to show for it?

I want to cut him some slack. It is difficult right now of the OSU ass whoopin. When I look back, they have been really close in some of those key MSU and OSU games that they lost. Here is the biggest issue I think....#1 the QB position has been a revolving door. I do not understand why no Harbaugh recruit has been able to elevate to a starting role. Either he is not evaluating talent properly or the development isn't taking place, or both #2 I think they still lack overall talent on O. The OL has always and continues to be a disappointment under Harbaugh, this year was better in that category. But then the difference makers on O just don't really impress that much vs the top caliber teams. You look at the skill OSU had on the field last week and it was like Michigan was playing with subpar talent that shouldn't be the case. It is hard to knock what they and Don Brown has been able to do on D, even though this week was bad. They looked slow. I do think the talent is there and was there last year also. The D has the tools to get it done. Just a bunch of head scratching right now after The Game. I would want Harbaugh to stay and I hope he wants to stay. I can't imagine a better fit. There are plenty of examples where coaches and programs struggled for a bit but they stuck together and finally they broke through. We all thought that would be this year for Michigan. I have confidence that Harbaugh can lead them where everyone wants them to go. Optimism right now is difficult however.


Bhawk - 11/30/2018 at 07:23 PM

If I were Lincoln Riley, I'd have every single one if my players walk out tomorrow showing Horns Down.

Oh, and, an 8-team playoff would be best.


Lee - 11/30/2018 at 10:06 PM

Eight teams would not shock me. I've heard the thought that six teams might be next. Who knows? Whatever way it goes, some teams will think they got screwed. I'm fine with four but I can see how adding games would be fun.

Of course there will be people that think it is too much on those young men. I honestly don't think that should be a determining factor. Some teams have over a month off between the end of the season and their bowl game right now.

And the students are off from class from about the same amount of time during the holidays anyways.


masbama - 12/1/2018 at 02:50 AM

I think the six heís teams in the country are:
Alabama
Clemson
Georgia
Oklahoma
Ohio State
Norte Dame

In that order


StratDal - 12/1/2018 at 03:05 PM

Go UGA! Roll the tide!


sckeys - 12/1/2018 at 04:32 PM

quote:
Go UGA! Roll the tide!


I started to take this but just couldnít get there. If Bama sees a chance they will run up 100 pats but GA may be the one to stop it. Or at least keep it within 14. Iím still struggling with it.


oldcoot - 12/1/2018 at 08:58 PM

Wasn't easy but....




OU!


oldcoot - 12/1/2018 at 09:01 PM

Put some on Memphis +1, number dropped from +3. Just didn't think UCF could keep beating them twice every year.

Need Clemson for a really big day.

Go Tigers!


oldcoot - 12/2/2018 at 12:58 AM

Wow, great games so far today.

I really thought Georgia had Alabama. Really took it to them the whole game. 4 & 11 fake punt? WT....

Looks like Oklahoma will get in now. Had Georgia won, I think the four in were
1) Clemson
2) Notre Dame
3) Georgia
4) Alabama

That would have been interesting, a first round Clemson/Alabama game. Moot now.

Memphis has "Virginia-itis." Virginia has lost like 15 times in a row to Virginia Tech with another ugly loss again this year. Memphis just can't seem to beat UCF. Had a 17 point lead in the regular season and lost and another 17 point lead today and lost. Hard to get those game out of the psyche.

GO CLEMSON! (Need to hopefully build the bankroll)


oldcoot - 12/2/2018 at 01:09 AM

Also crazy, Drake a 51 1/2 point dog to Iowa State, loses by just three.


sckeys - 12/2/2018 at 01:12 AM

That GA-Bama game was good. Mid Tenn St got me with a close one. Im hoping for a Clemson win now.


nebish - 12/2/2018 at 03:12 AM

That screaming you heard...oh that was me. I had Pitt +17 first half. Yeah the INT with :29 left in the quarter when they should've been running it and going to the locker room down only 11.


Lee - 12/2/2018 at 11:51 AM

Fun day yesterday. Thought Georgia had 'Bama. Was hoping Northwestern would give OSU a closer game.

Thankfully for me Central Florida came back and I actually won some $$$. I was scared going into the fourth quarter.


Lee - 12/2/2018 at 01:21 PM

quote:
That screaming you heard...oh that was me. I had Pitt +17 first half. Yeah the INT with :29 left in the quarter when they should've been running it and going to the locker room down only 11.


I took a flyer and figured Pitt could at least cover. That was a lot of points to lay but Clemson was able to do it. Pitt's offense kind of stunk.


crazyjoe - 12/2/2018 at 01:47 PM

I didn't see much Yesterday, as I had to work, but from what it did see, overall the play was a very high level and intense, sadly I was pulling for both the NW Wildcats and the Georgia Dawgs.........Peace........joe


nebish - 12/2/2018 at 02:59 PM

The UCF comeback was pretty cool. Especially with all the Milton stuff and his Mom at the game. 25-0 last 2 years. Pretty impressive.

OU - Texas was good game. Wish Texas could've backdoored inside of throwing an INT at the 5 to end the game.

UAB - MTSU was a good game as well that had a tough ending for Raiders backers (12 men on field when UAB was about to punt the ball back to them with 1min left).

Alabama - Georgia was really great. No Bama hate here, tons of respect for them. Loved that Hurts was the hero. Can't remember Saban ever getting choked up after a game. I would've liked to see Georgia win just for something different. That fake punt....WTF! Kirby, just because you have the play doesn't mean you have to run the play. Bama was totally ready for it. Worst part about that game, Gary Danielson. I thought Vern was bad, Gary may be worse. I have to watch CBS games on mute even if I want to listen to it.

NW fought back hard in the 3rd qrt. Down 7-24 at the break Fitz had them still believing after halftime, they cut it to 21-24, but OSU just had too much of everything for Cats to hang for 4 qrts.

Fresno and Boise was pretty good low scoring weather game. Fresno blk'd a FG and an xpt that allowed the game to go to OT instead of a Boise regulation win. Fresno got the blue turf monkey off their back!

Speaking of missed kicks, while Pitt 1st H was the most painful beat of the weekend, Buffalo's loss was by far the most disappointing. Buffalo dominated for 2-1/2 qrts yet blew a 19 pt lead and lost by 1. Bulls have had horrendous PAT and FG issues this year. UB missed an xpt or had it blk'd (can't remember - both have happened alot this year) and then went for 2 (and failed) on another TD not because they needed to but because they had no faith in their kicking game. One of UB's other xpt bounced hard off the upright but in. How can one team go an entire year and have such poor kicking game? Those 2 missed PAT opportunities cost them as they lost by 1 so instead of winning or going to OT one of the best teams in the MAC this year goes home empty handed.


nebish - 12/2/2018 at 03:07 PM

And as good of a story as UCF has been these past 2 years, I'm not sure anything is better than UAB football. The folded their program, Bill Clark stayed after 2014 and they indicated they would reintroduce it, he had a couple guys from their 2014 team still around for the 2016 season which went really well although they lost their bowl game. This year they won the CUSA championship! I think UAB is undefeated at home since they've come back. That is awesome!!


Lee - 12/2/2018 at 03:07 PM

So who is the fourth team in? Don't like Ohio State but I think they should get in. Do I think they will? Nope. Oklahoma probably will, even given their defense. Georgia is crying to get in but I don't see a two loss team getting in. And I think they are arguably the best of the last teams.

My opinion.


oldcoot - 12/2/2018 at 05:12 PM

quote:
So who is the fourth team in? Don't like Ohio State but I think they should get in. Do I think they will? Nope. Oklahoma probably will, even given their defense. Georgia is crying to get in but I don't see a two loss team getting in. And I think they are arguably the best of the last teams.

My opinion.


Oklahoma. They lost a close game to a quality team and later beat that team for a conference title. Ohio State lost by 29 to an average team. 29.

Georgia had the opportunity to play their way in with a win, they lost, and used poor judgment along the way. If you let Georgia in you're basically saying two spots are reserved for the SEC. Plus, if they got in, you couldn't really seed Georgia higher than an unbeaten Notre Dame. Which would mean an immediate rematch with Alabama. That ain't happening.

OU will get in and with that porous defense get clobbered by Alabama. Clemson has enough to beat the Irish. Title game will again come down to Clemson v. Bama.


oldcoot - 12/2/2018 at 05:14 PM

quote:
That screaming you heard...oh that was me. I had Pitt +17 first half. Yeah the INT with :29 left in the quarter when they should've been running it and going to the locker room down only 11.



Pretty sure it was me when Clemson's second string offense punched in that last touchdown.

Had Pitt pegged for no more than ten points (their team total was actually 13), just didn't know if Clemson would get enough. Eight yards passing for Pittsburgh? Eight.


oldcoot - 12/2/2018 at 05:15 PM

quote:
And as good of a story as UCF has been these past 2 years, I'm not sure anything is better than UAB football. The folded their program, Bill Clark stayed after 2014 and they indicated they would reintroduce it, he had a couple guys from their 2014 team still around for the 2016 season which went really well although they lost their bowl game. This year they won the CUSA championship! I think UAB is undefeated at home since they've come back. That is awesome!!


Totally agree.


IPowrie - 12/2/2018 at 06:48 PM

Oklahoma in with that quality loss to Texas. Quality losses matter.


nebish - 12/2/2018 at 06:59 PM

Just imagine the lack of quality teams we would have in an 8 team playoff trying to pick more than 4?

100%, why would Georgia get into a playoff when they just lost to the team already in the playoff? At some point the results of actual games really do need to matter. It would be like, what is the point of even having the Alabama - Georgia SEC Title game if both teams get to advance? Same could be said for any league in that same position. Remember when some people wanted OSU and Michigan to rematch in 2006? No way, no how, would that be the right thing to do.

Which gives Oklahoma the advantage since they lost a close game on the final play to Texas and was able to avenge that loss in their conference championship game. As bad as their defense is, you have to pick a 4th team in this system so you take the best of the rest and OU, while not great to me at all, appears to be it.

Who you lose to and how you lose should certainly matter.

Ohio State, once you lose at Purdue, who struggled to get to .500 on the season by the way, you lose the opportunity to state your case among the greatest teams in the country. Same thing with the Iowa loss last year. Here is a message to Ohio State, stop having ugly loses to average Big Ten teams and maybe you will get your chance again.


IPowrie - 12/2/2018 at 07:06 PM

If they went to an 8 game playoff they would have to get rid of the conference championship game. Take the regular season champs of the power 5 conferences and the best group of 6 team with two at large. Host the first round on the campus of the higher seed. That's the idea I've seen anyways. Of course you'd have to find a way to crown a regular season champion in the 14 team leagues.


nebish - 12/2/2018 at 07:30 PM

I like the idea of dropping the conference title games, but exactly like you said...in a 14 team league when you play only 61-69% of your league during the season there leaves alot of unknowns with teams missing each other. I personally love how the Big Xll does it in the regular season (which is how everyone at some point used to do it), just have a smaller league and play everyone in the league and you don't need a conference title game.

But anyway, they aren't going backwards because expanding conferences means more revenue for the leagues and having a conference title game, you guessed it, means more money for the leagues.

There are so many changes and things and what ifs that people can go over, some might be realistic and some might not be at all.

The one that I prefer is separating P5 from G5 and doing a 4 team playoff from each of those teams. Yes somebody would still get left out of the respective playoffs, but that leaves it selective and keeps debate in play.

130 teams in FBS / IA major college football. In all reality, teams like Alabama, Clemson, Notre Dame and Oklahoma are not comparable to UAB, Coastal Carolina, Ball State and Tulsa...so why are they classified together?


nebish - 12/4/2018 at 03:03 PM

Yahoo Pick'em League Final Results:

1...nebish...224-172
2...gobluelee...198-185
3...Daboís weenie...197-199
4...fast43...194-202
5...Fighting Irish...194-191
6...kirbyskids...194-202
7...FranklinDawg...193-192
8...Return of the Duck...193-183
9...sckeys...175-210
10...Sooner Boomer...53-343

[Edited on 12/4/2018 by nebish]


nebish - 12/4/2018 at 03:45 PM

2018 - 2019 Bowl Games

December 15, Saturday

Celebration - Atlanta, Ga. - Noon (ESPN)
North Carolina A&T vs. Alcorn State

Cure - Orlando, Fla. 1:30 p.m. - (CBSSN)
Louisiana vs. Tulane (-3.5, 59)

New Mexico - Albuquerque, N.M. - 2 p.m. (ESPN)
North Texas vs. Utah State (-9.5, 64.5)

Las Vegas - Las Vegas, Nev. - 3:30 p.m. (ABC)
Fresno State (-5, 51) vs. Arizona State

Camellia - Montgomery, Ala. - 5:30 p.m. (ESPN)
Georgia Southern vs. Eastern Michigan (pk, 48)

New Orleans - New Orleans, La. - 9 p.m. (ESPN)
Appalachian State (-7, 50.5) vs. Middle Tennessee

December 18, Tuesday

Boca Raton - Boca Raton, Fla. - 7 p.m. (ESPN)
NIU vs. UAB (-1.5, 44)

Dec. 19, Wednesday

Frisco - Frisco, Tex. - 8 p.m. (ESPN)
Ohio (-3, 55) vs. San Diego State

December 20, Thursday

Gasparilla - Tampa, Fla. - 8 p.m. (ESPN)
Marshall (-2.5, 54.5) vs. USF

December 21, Friday

Bahamas - Nassau, Bah. - 12:30 p.m. (ESPN)
FIU vs. Toledo (-6.5, 67.5)

Idaho Potato - Boise, Idaho - 4 p.m. (ESPN)
Western Michigan vs. BYU (-11, 48.5)

December 22, Saturday

Birmingham - Birmingham, Ala. - Noon (ESPN)
Memphis (-3.5, 73) vs. Wake Forest

Armed Forces - Fort Worth, Tex. - 3:30 p.m. (ESPN)
Houston vs. Army (-3.5, 67.5)

Dollar General - Mobile, Ala. - 7 p.m. (ESPN)
Troy vs. Buffalo (-3, 53.5)

Hawaii - Honolulu, H.I. - 10:30 p.m. (ESPN)
Louisiana Tech vs. Hawaii (-2, 57.5)

December 26, Wednesday

First Responder - Dallas, Tex. - 1:30 p.m. (ESPN)
Boise State vs. Boston College (-3, 55)

Quick Lane - Detroit, Mich. - 5:15 p.m. (ESPN)
Minnesota vs. Georgia Tech (-4, 61)

Cheez-It - Phoenix, Ariz. - 9 p.m. (ESPN)
TCU vs. Cal (pk, 40.5)

December 27, Thursday

Independence - Shreveport, La. - 1:30 p.m. (ESPN)
Temple (-3, 56.5) vs. Duke

Pinstripe - New York - 5:15 p.m. (ESPN)
Wisconsin vs. Miami (-4, 47)

Texas - Houston, Tex. - 9 p.m. (ESPN)
Baylor vs. Vanderbilt (-4, 55)

December 28, Friday

Music City - Nashville, Tenn. - 1:30 p.m. (ESPN)
Purdue vs. Auburn (-4, 54.5)

Camping World - Orlando, Fla. - 5:15 p.m. (ESPN)
West Virginia (-7, 74) vs. Syracuse

Alamo - San Antonio, Tex. - 9 p.m. (ESPN)
Iowa State vs. Washington State (-3.5, 54.5)

December 29, Saturday

Peach - Atlanta, Ga. - Noon (ESPN)
Michigan (-7, 51) vs. Florida

Belk - Charlotte, N.C. - 12:30 p.m. (ABC)
South Carolina (-4.5, 54.5) vs. Virginia

Arizona - Tucson, Ariz. - 1:15 p.m. (CBSSN)
Nevada vs. Arkansas State (pk, 59.5)

Cotton - Dallas, Tex. - 4 p.m. (ESPN)
Clemson (-11.5, 55) vs. Notre Dame

Orange - Miami Gardens, Fla. - 8 p.m. (ESPN)
Alabama (-13.5, 79) vs. Oklahoma

December 31, Monday

Military - Annapolis, Md. - Noon (ESPN)
Virginia Tech vs. Cincinnati (-5.5, 53.5)

Sun - El Paso, Tex. - 2:00 p.m. (CBS)
Pitt vs. Stanford (-6.5. 52)

Redbox - Santa Clara, Calif. - 3 p.m. (FOX)
Michigan State vs. Oregon (-2.5, 48)

Liberty - Memphis - 3:45 p.m. (ESPN)
Oklahoma State vs. Missouri (-8, 71)

Holiday - San Diego, Calif. - 7 p.m. (FS1)
Northwestern vs. Utah (-6.5, 45)

Taxslayer - Jacksonville, Fla. - 7:30 p.m. (ESPN)
Texas A&M (-4.5, 58.5) vs. North Carolina State

January 1, Tuesday

Outback - Tampa, Fla. - Noon (ESPN2)
Iowa vs. Mississippi State (-5.5, 44.5)

Citrus - Orlando, Fla. - 1 p.m. (ABC)
Penn State (-5.5, 48) vs. Kentucky

Fiesta - Glendale, Ariz. - 1 p.m. (ESPN)
LSU (-7.5, 54.5) vs. UCF

Rose - Pasadena, Calif. - 5 p.m. (ESPN)
Ohio State (-4.5, 58.5) vs. Washington

Sugar - New Orleans, La. - 8:45 p.m. (ESPN)
Texas vs. Georgia (-10.5, 58)



oldcoot - 12/4/2018 at 04:27 PM

No more urban blight at OSU after the bowl game.

Good riddance.


oldcoot - 12/4/2018 at 04:28 PM

Have been perusing the early bowl lines.

Honestly, what will Georgia have to play for after missing the CFP? Let alone a double digit favorite.


Lee - 12/4/2018 at 07:46 PM

quote:
Have been perusing the early bowl lines.

Honestly, what will Georgia have to play for after missing the CFP? Let alone a double digit favorite.



I KIND of like Meeechinan -7.5 over Florida
REALLY like Oregon over Michigan State giving 2.5
I think Central Florida can cover 7.5 against LSU
And I REALLY REALLY like Ohio State giving 6 against Washington. I'd think the Bucknuts will play well for Meyer.

I'm sure I'll pick some others but those are the ones that stick out.



Lee - 12/4/2018 at 07:53 PM

quote:
No more urban blight at OSU after the bowl game.

Good riddance.



Glad to see him go. I hope if this really is a medical situation that he is okay.

Having said that, not to be negative but it wouldn't shock me if he coaches somewhere else again.


fensranger - 12/5/2018 at 06:04 PM

wish the JETS would hire him!!!


nebish - 12/5/2018 at 11:04 PM

quote:
wish the JETS would hire him!!!


I think we'll see him somewhere at some point on a sideline again after the 2019 Rose Bowl.


nebish - 12/5/2018 at 11:18 PM

Yahoo is not doing a bowl pick'em again this year.

Last year we did one on ESPN, a straight up winner confidence points pool. You guys want to do that again?


Lee - 12/7/2018 at 10:05 PM

Army / Navy game tomorrow. Love watching this!


nebish - 12/8/2018 at 03:10 PM

Go Navy - Beat Army!


Bhawk - 12/8/2018 at 04:24 PM

I've rolled with all the myriad of changes in college football over the years, but as a devoted addict to all things bowl games, the bowl calendar changes every year are getting ridiculous.


nebish - 12/8/2018 at 04:36 PM

Another bowl game in Myrtle Beach next year or is it 2020. Coastal Carolina is expanding their stadium so a couple thousand fans from a random MAC or CUSA or Sun Belt team can go to a bowl. Bowl games fueling construction jobs!

Just a couple years ago we had a handful of 5-7 teams in bowls. This year several 6-6 teams didn't get bowl invites. Guess we need more!


oldcoot - 12/8/2018 at 09:32 PM

quote:
Go Navy - Beat Army!



On Navy and the unders.


PhotoRon286 - 12/9/2018 at 02:01 AM

Sorry, but Army/Navy has to be the worst college game of the year.

For all the hype neither team is usually any good and it's just an ugly game to watch.

I was entertained last year since it was played in a snowstorm but that was the highlight for me.

The Syracuse/Georgetown basketball game was more compelling for me.


Lee - 12/9/2018 at 01:23 PM

quote:
Sorry, but Army/Navy has to be the worst college game of the year.





Really Ron? Look at some of the meaningless bowl games coming up.


nebish - 12/9/2018 at 05:11 PM

quote:
Sorry, but Army/Navy has to be the worst college game of the year.

For all the hype neither team is usually any good and it's just an ugly game to watch.

I was entertained last year since it was played in a snowstorm but that was the highlight for me.

The Syracuse/Georgetown basketball game was more compelling for me.



That is why I love betting on football. Even a poorly played sloppy game can keep you on the edge of your seat. Navy +7.5...Army sack fumbles Navy QB on 4th down 3+min left deep deep in Mid territory, Navy 2 timeouts, Army can't kill all the clock, big run down to the 3, they're going to score, **** they go up by 10. But wait, Navy has to score twice and get in FG range, they kick the FG then try for onside kick and lose by 7! Yay!

I agree though, last year's game was really good and suspenseful. This year Army didn't play that well or else they would've rolled Navy. QB Zac Abey for the Mids was just awful, awful. Should've made the switch sooner than they did.


Lee - 12/9/2018 at 08:53 PM

Line moved from 7 to 7.5 so I got the hook and won. Forth quarter (somewhat meaningless) field goal saved me.



Should have taken the under. Always a safe bet in this game.


StratDal - 12/11/2018 at 12:29 AM

Go get 'em Hugh! Try not to "inconvenience your wife" and play by the recruiting rules (a blind man could see that Ole Miss's recruiting hall in 2012 and/or 2013 was full of $$$) this time. Then again, it's just Liberty College.

Maybe he can schedule a game with Florida Atlantic and became pals with Lane Kiffin. They both deserve each other IMO.

https://www.si.com/college-football/2018/12/07/liberty-hires-hugh-freeze-ol e-miss-press-conference


leafsfan - 12/11/2018 at 05:08 PM

Email AJ if you are interested in joining his pool. Payout is uslay in the 1500 range, 20 bucks a sheet. He will send you the sheet.

ajnugent@hotmail.com

Say Mike from Canada sent you.

Attached is the 2018 Chooch's Bowl Pick Em and the rules.

It's $20 per sheet again this year and there's no limit to the amount of sheets you can do.

Feel free to share this pool with anyone else who might be interested. The amount of and number of payouts will depend on how many entries we have (see below).

Entry fees can be mailed to me at 61 Park Ave, West Haven, CT 06516 or through PayPal at ajnugent@hotmail.com

Make sure to put your name, enter in your pick for who will win the championship and fill in the tiebreaker on each sheet. If you get someone new make sure to get me their email so I can send them updates throughout the bowl season. All sheets are due by Friday, December 14th.



[Edited on 12/12/2018 by leafsfan]


nebish - 12/12/2018 at 04:18 AM

I set up an ESPN bowl pick'em league, just renewed it from last year. I think the group should get email invites.

Not sure if this is the right link to join, check your email or try this:

http://fantasy.espn.com/college-bowl-mania/2018/en/group?groupID=182540

Name is Whipping Post Goes Bowlin

Password from last year was Mayfield


leafsfan - 12/12/2018 at 07:23 PM

I'm in and likely to win!!!


nebish - 12/13/2018 at 05:40 PM

quote:
I'm in and likely to win!!!


You get 'em Mike!

And Sang is in!!

Sorry I set it up late. Games start this Saturday!!



quote:

http://fantasy.espn.com/college-bowl-mania/2018/en/group?groupID=182540

Name is Whipping Post Goes Bowlin

Password from last year was Mayfield


Lee - 12/13/2018 at 05:56 PM

Maybe I'm blind but where are the check boxes to join group?


nebish - 12/13/2018 at 06:51 PM

quote:
Maybe I'm blind but where are the check boxes to join group?


Are you logged into an ESPN account and have a user name?

I see options for joining and leaving when I am on the page.


Lee - 12/13/2018 at 07:10 PM

quote:
quote:
Maybe I'm blind but where are the check boxes to join group?


Are you logged into an ESPN account and have a user name?

I see options for joining and leaving when I am on the page.


Your entry's game mode does not match this group's selected game mode.

?


nebish - 12/13/2018 at 07:50 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
Maybe I'm blind but where are the check boxes to join group?


Are you logged into an ESPN account and have a user name?

I see options for joining and leaving when I am on the page.


Your entry's game mode does not match this group's selected game mode.

?


Hard for me to say what you are seeing vs what I remember seeing when I set it up and joined. Did you pick confidence or no confidence? If you picked no confidence that wouldn't match the group settings.

I don't know...Sang figured out how to join...


Sang - 12/13/2018 at 08:22 PM


Lee - 12/13/2018 at 08:50 PM

That does tell a lot...


Lee - 12/13/2018 at 08:55 PM

"Use the buttons to select entries to Join or Leave this group"


I see no buttons to click. Not sure how you guys got in. I can see there are all of three people entered.


nebish - 12/13/2018 at 10:13 PM

quote:
"Use the buttons to select entries to Join or Leave this group"


I see no buttons to click. Not sure how you guys got in. I can see there are all of three people entered.


I think I know what the deal is. I just went to the link as an unlogged visitor. I see the people in the leauge, but see no "join" or "leave": buttons.

Once you log into your espn account, or set one up, then it should work for you because whenever I visit the page as a logged in user I see them.

Upper right hand corner, does it say "log in"? Do that.


alloak41 - 12/14/2018 at 04:37 AM

Not sure about OU's pass defense, but the Sooners will likely get Torched by Tua!

Roll Tide!!!!




(Sorry Jerry)


Sang - 12/14/2018 at 05:14 AM

Looks like Lee still hasn't figured it out.........


Lee - 12/14/2018 at 01:58 PM

quote:
Looks like Lee still hasn't figured it out.........


Nope.


nebish - 12/14/2018 at 04:03 PM

Lee, pm me your email and I will have ESPN send you a direct invite and we'll see if that works for you. And what is your ESPN user name?


Sang - 12/14/2018 at 04:46 PM

Pretty sure it's not 'techsavvy' .........


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