Thread: MLB 2019 - Brooklyn Robins?

Lee - 2/13/2018 at 10:52 AM

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StratDal - 2/13/2018 at 02:35 PM

Maybe for MLB 2018

My wife is the baseball fan in the family and she's been counting the days. Go Giants! (Can't get any worse than last season.)


IPowrie - 2/13/2018 at 04:03 PM

Should be excited but it is hard when your team is going to suck. Anyway's go Tigers


Sang - 2/13/2018 at 06:38 PM

You can edit the first post and change the title to 2018 Lee - unless you, as a Tiger's fan, enjoy living in the past.....


porkchopbob - 2/13/2018 at 09:15 PM

Hoping the Brewers build on last season.


Lee - 2/15/2018 at 01:06 PM

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You can edit the first post and change the title to 2018 Lee - unless you, as a Tiger's fan, enjoy living in the past.....


And maybe, just maybe you could take sarcasm to a lower level. Oh wait! I wouldn't want you to give up your only redeeming quality.


Lee - 2/15/2018 at 01:08 PM

And how are your White Sux going to do this year? Probably battling it out for last place with the Tiggers I would guess.

[Edited on 5/4/2018 by Lee]


Lee - 2/15/2018 at 01:15 PM

quote:
Maybe for MLB 2018

My wife is the baseball fan in the family and she's been counting the days. Go Giants! (Can't get any worse than last season.)



They made some good moves in the off season. Beefed up the outfield which was a mess last year. And if they take away Bumgarner's motorcycle they might have a shot. Idiot.

Hey, it's an even number year. They seem to do well in this spot.

They have the 8th highest odds of winning it all. Better than rooting for my Tiggers.


Lee - 2/15/2018 at 01:30 PM

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Hoping the Brewers build on last season.


Haven't heard the nuts and bolts of what happened but they should have signed Darvish. So the Cubs got him for next to nothing. They are so afraid of the Cubs that they basically banned Chicago fans from the pre sale to get tickets there.

I live in Chicago and couldn't buy tickets. They know by your zip code and will block you.

Clever folks up in Wisconsin.


Sang - 2/15/2018 at 07:15 PM

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Clever folks up in Wisconsin.





There's something you never hear..........


Sang - 2/16/2018 at 01:25 AM

Same thing happens in Nashville - they don't let Blackhawk fans get tickets because it was a sea of red jerseys there........


Sang - 2/16/2018 at 01:25 AM

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You can edit the first post and change the title to 2018 Lee - unless you, as a Tiger's fan, enjoy living in the past.....


And maybe, just maybe you could take sarcasm to a lower level. Oh wait! I wouldn't want you to give up your only redeeming quality.




Thanks for noticing...........


Lee - 2/16/2018 at 11:59 AM

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Same thing happens in Nashville - they don't let Blackhawk fans get tickets because it was a sea of red jerseys there........


I seem to recall that. Couldn't pay someone to see the Black Hawks now.

I hadn't heard this before but my best friend from Michigan said this is not uncommon for college football games. Trying to make sure locals get tickets. Kind of a silly idea IMO. Kind of easy to buy a ticket for anything online.

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Lee - 3/18/2018 at 11:42 AM

I am going to Florida in April. Going to see The Rays. Never been there. Really looking forward to it. They are playing the Minnesota Twinkies.


emr - 3/18/2018 at 02:44 PM

My giants did make some good moves; but it remains to be seen if their style of play can be revived or if it’s the equivalent to Phil Jackson’s triangle offense.

Otherwise 2/3 of the way into the season they (yikes) trade madbum to a contender in exchange for a ton of prospects. Then posey goes. Then I root for 2021


Sang - 3/18/2018 at 06:21 PM

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Same thing happens in Nashville - they don't let Blackhawk fans get tickets because it was a sea of red jerseys there........


I seem to recall that. Couldn't pay someone to see the Black Hawks now.

I hadn't heard this before but my best friend from Michigan said this is not uncommon for college football games. Trying to make sure locals get tickets. Kind of a silly idea IMO. Kind of easy to buy a ticket for anything online.

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Except in Nashville they wouldn't let you buy online with an out of state address..... they also sold the tickets as packages - you couldn't just buy a ticket to the Blackhawks game - it was combined with another home game.....

But you're right - doesn't matter this year.....


emr - 3/24/2018 at 10:04 PM

MADBUM broke his hand. Probably wont be till June/July till we know if there are long term effects.

The Giants are through. Looking like adding salary to win might be a bad decision.

Fire sale to start later


Lee - 3/24/2018 at 10:31 PM

That sucks. Now they need to fill a hole in their rotation. And right before the season starts.


emr - 3/24/2018 at 11:05 PM

MADBUM is irreplaceable and the Giants already have the second highest payroll behind the Bosox. This one isn't fixable. They made their offseason moves with the hopes of one more title run. I see no options except wholesale dismantling.

My family waited from 1954 t0 2010. We have patience


Lee - 3/25/2018 at 12:00 PM

No idea what their Triple A system looks like but they obviously have to come up with something.


Lee - 3/25/2018 at 12:33 PM

Four days until Opening Day!


Lee - 3/29/2018 at 09:34 AM

Yay Opening Day! Go Tiggers!


Lee - 3/29/2018 at 09:36 AM

Here are my bets for this season:

Dodgers: Yasiel Puig over 80.5 RBI's

Cubs: Kyle Schwarber under 29.5 HRs

Cubs: Anthony Rizzo under 99.5 RBI's

Cubs: Total wins under 94.5

Orioles: Manny Machado under 99.5 RBI's

Orioles: Manny Machado will he get traded during the season. I say no.

Orioles: Adam Jones over 80.5 RBI's

Giants: Johnny Cueto over 12.5 wins

Red Sox: Mookie Betts under 100.5 runs scored

D Backs: Paul Goldschmidt under 105.5 RBI's

Tigers: Total wins over 68.5

Brewers: Took them to win the NL Central

Indians: Picked them to win the World Series


Lot of stuff to keep straight. Good thing I am not a betting man!


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Lee - 3/29/2018 at 11:24 AM

I took Cueto as I think maybe, just perhaps, he'll get an extra start or two with Bumgarner out a couple months. Not saying they will go to a four man rotation like the good 'ol days but ya never know. As I've already said they fortified their lineup. Should bode well for the games they play although losing their best pitcher can't help their season long chances.

Plus they have to play the Dodgers 10 times in their first 40 games I think it is.

If they can survive that, who knows?


funkyfitter - 3/29/2018 at 02:24 PM

Here's hoping that the Phillies build on the momentum they had going on the second half of last year !


StratDal - 3/29/2018 at 04:52 PM

Here's to Chavez "Latrine"!

http://abc7.com/sports/dodger-stadium-repairs-underway-after-sewage-spill/3 275367/

Go Giants!


Lee - 3/29/2018 at 05:49 PM

RIP Rusty Staub. Great player and even a better person.


emr - 3/31/2018 at 02:17 PM

re: Rusty.

all true; also a great cook. When I lived in NYC c 1980 Tuesday (I think it was Tues) nights rib special at his namesake Restaurant saw my friends and me on a regular basis. Used to have a yearly charity rib eating contest. Usually won by the likes of Willis Reed.One year Brook Shields won (who would of thunk.)

and re: who would have thunk. My Giants beat the Dodgers twice by a 1-0 score on Panik solo homers. Took the claw down


Lee - 4/3/2018 at 06:30 PM

Washington & Pittsburgh, only undefeated teams. Nats don't surprise me but the Bucs do.


Lee - 4/3/2018 at 08:44 PM

Boy the weather in The Midwest & East Coast is brutal for baseball. Games getting snowed out and such. I am going to the Tigers / White Sox game at Comiskey Saturday and I think the temp is going to be in the upper thirties. Doubt we will make it all. There is an enclosed bar in right field.

Love Milwaukee. The beer and cheese options are ample.

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Lee - 4/4/2018 at 08:48 PM

Got my tickets today for the Cubs / Tigers game at Wrigley in July.

And going to the White Sox / Tigers game at Comiskey Saturday if they don't call it. Snowed here last night.


Lee - 4/6/2018 at 10:16 AM

Going to the Tigers / White Sox game at Comiskey tomorrow. High temp of 39 degrees.


Stephen - 4/6/2018 at 03:33 PM

I can't believe that eagle landed on the OF's shoulder -- that guy coulda been seriously maimed if its talons were out or got aggressive -- guess it was supposed to land on the mound where its human 'handler' was -- c'mon Sox, let's fly like an eagle


Lee - 4/7/2018 at 11:24 AM

Maybe the eagle wasn't named Steve Miller.


Lee - 4/8/2018 at 11:19 AM

Froze at Comiskey yesterday. Thought about going today. $5 cheapest tickets but I don't want to freeze again.

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Stephen - 4/9/2018 at 03:14 PM

ChiSox & Cubs in dueling home matinees today, what's up w/that -- then the big-slugging (yawn) Bomb-ers here tmrw


Jerry - 4/10/2018 at 12:47 AM

Watched the Rockies opener with the Braves. Everybody was bundled up completely, only eyes were exposed and it was hard to tell who was who except by their position on the field and name on back of the jersey.
The announcers kept giving the temp from the scoreboard and I never heard it go above freezing, add to that the wind blowing across the snow on the field.
Some of time it looked as if the Michelin Man was at bat.

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Lee - 4/10/2018 at 06:30 PM

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ChiSox & Cubs in dueling home matinees today, what's up w/that -- then the big-slugging (yawn) Bomb-ers here tmrw


It happens. Not often but usually a couple times a season. Regarding the games yesterday, there was more snow up on the north side where I live so I think the Sox had a better chance to clear the field. There's quite a bit of snow up here not far from Wrigley.


Lee - 4/13/2018 at 01:34 PM

Went to the Cubs game yesterday. Temperature was about 70-72 degrees at game time. All of the sudden in the 3rd or 4th inning the temp dropped probably 20-25 degrees in a matter of seconds. Never experienced anything like it. Crowd was kinda sparse to begin with but when the temp dropped the place started to clear out big time.

Plus the Cubs got smoked anyway.


Lee - 4/13/2018 at 08:18 PM

Flubs scored once yesterday and they are getting shut out today. Their hitting is as bad as the Tigers. Tough rooting for them at this point but the Cubs should be doing better.


Lee - 4/15/2018 at 10:09 AM

What a game at Wrigley. A comedy of errors. The Braves must feel sick. Everything that could have gone wrong for them did. It was fun to watch though.

Unless you are a Braves fan.


DanB - 4/15/2018 at 01:45 PM

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What a game at Wrigley. A comedy of errors. The Braves must feel sick. Everything that could have gone wrong for them did. It was fun to watch though.

Unless you are a Braves fan.


my son are and I were stunned

it looked like rec ball team


Lee - 4/16/2018 at 07:47 PM

I realize it's only April but watching the A.L. Central it appears the White Sux and Tiggers are already jockeying for last place.


Lee - 4/17/2018 at 04:45 PM

With this weather, I think the season might end in December.


Stephen - 4/17/2018 at 04:50 PM

We get our 1st look at phenom Shohei Ohtani & streaking Angels tonite, countering w/David -- Xander is about a week away -- Mookie (foot) & Hanley (HBP) fine -- Dustin will be back next month -- JBJ will heat up w/weather at plate, he's the game's best outfielder
you are never forgotten, Felix Pappalardi


Lee - 4/17/2018 at 05:00 PM

What is JBJ?


Stephen - 4/17/2018 at 05:06 PM

Jackie Bradley Jr. -- he made one of his awesome catches Sat in RF


Lee - 4/17/2018 at 05:12 PM

Oh. They haven't been the same since Yaz retired.


emr - 4/17/2018 at 05:32 PM

So Bryce (Roy Hobbs) Harper hits a 406 ft homer while his bat snapped in half. I think the kid has some talent


Stephen - 4/17/2018 at 10:21 PM

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CHICAGO -- Cubs first baseman Anthony Rizzo is advocating for a shorter season, even if that means a smaller paycheck for players.

"I think we play too much baseball," Rizzo said Tuesday during his weekly appearance on ESPN 1000. "Yes, guys are going to take pay cuts. But are we playing this game for the money or do we love this game? I know it's both, but in the long run it will make everything better."

Rizzo believes a transition period with guaranteed contracts could be worked out, perhaps "grandfathering" them into a new system with new contracts reflecting fewer games played.
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agree w/this, the season is too long -- shorten spring training, let players work out offseason kinks in 1st few weeks of season -- might help to begin bring outrageous salaries back in line w/reality, also possibly reduce the # of injuries that sideline so many of them


Lee - 4/17/2018 at 11:11 PM

I would rather have these bad weather games in April than during the playoffs. This has gone on for decades. I remember going to games as a kid when it was snowing so I don't really think this is anything all that new.


Lee - 4/18/2018 at 10:21 AM

Going to the Tampa / Minnesota game Friday night. It will be my third game in three different stadiums in two weeks. Can't say I've ever done that before.


Stephen - 4/18/2018 at 04:15 PM

The bottom of the order did it (obviously Mookie too) -- a combined 7 hits in 13 AB, 5 runs, 5 RBI -- Sawx 10, Calif LA Angels 1 -- blister or no, phenom or no, we were gonna hit whoever was out there --

JBJ, 5-2-3-2
have a running friendly bet (ovr last 2-3 yrs or so) that Jackie in his career will win the triple crown w/a Carl-in-1967 type of season -- he has it in him -- already the consensus top OF in MLB

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BIGV - 4/19/2018 at 01:48 AM

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agree w/this, the season is too long


Bring back Saturday & Sunday Doubleheaders!


Lee - 4/19/2018 at 11:53 AM

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agree w/this, the season is too long


Bring back Saturday & Sunday Doubleheaders!


I've thought that for a long time. Often they have to reschedule games in a day night doubleheader anyway so why not just schedule a few ahead of time anyway? The MLB will still get two gates for the cash.


Lee - 4/24/2018 at 07:14 PM

https://sports.yahoo.com/pete-roses-estranged-wife-claims-hes-major-debt-du e-high-stakes-gambling-213326581.html


Stephen - 4/26/2018 at 06:56 PM

It's not just the Sixiz
no, cracks & all the Liberty Bell is ringing loud & proud nowadays -- Eagles & Villanova won -- 2 years after winning a mere 10 games, Process products Simmons, masked-marvel Embiid & 6ers are scary

....& just a year after the embarrassment of 2017 (30 games under .500)
....sure enough, it's contagious in Phila as Phillies, yes the PHILLIES, have started fast

Blight for Phans tho -- they booed Phlyiz during Pitts series -- that's outta school, something alluded to by Claude Giroux in an article circulating on espn.com -- it's no disgrace to get beat by the 2-time champions

it's early yet but sevrl teams, Cincy, SD, Miami, Tex, Balt others, are already near wait-til-next-year mode -- ChiSox & KC would be but are in weak div -- they play each other this wknd, likely w/few paying customers on hand --

reported attendance was 10G at ChiSox-Seattle game -- AP report had it at "an estimated 2,000" --
Bummer of a summer in store on the south side, esp their bullpen -- watta name for a reliever-going-bad -- Yoan, however, is heating up in a big way -- mayb this will be the year the potential everyone has always raved about, will finally happen

Xander back tmrw, Dustin next month -- we haven't yet played our best ball, same is true for many teams/hitters -- we gotta make this fast start count at least into all star break -- let's go Sox


[Edited on 4/27/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 5/4/2018 at 10:36 AM

Pujols almost to 3,000 hits.


Lee - 5/9/2018 at 07:54 PM

Are the Red Sux still in first place all by themselves?


Stephen - 5/10/2018 at 04:37 PM

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we gotta make this fast start count at least into all star break -- let's go Sox
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didn't know -- susPECted but didn't Know -- they'd turn into a marauding juggernaut running rampant in same fashion as their 1990s teams w/Jeter. their 70s teams w/Reggie -- Didi G. & G. Sanchez are to their 2 sluggers, what Tom Tresh & Joe Pepitone were to Mantle & Maris........& so forth

the Murderers Row they ain't, however -- We're Right There With Em -- Hanley & JBJ, Mitch Moreland & Nunez coming off the bench, Sandy & Christian starting to hit, Pedey back next week
& we got Xander & Mookie --

One year after missing for "an unspecified elbow injury," David again to sidelines -- Steven Wright might be around somewhere -- NY does have the edge in pitching -- not tonite tho, tied going into wknd -- c'mon Eduard & Sox, salvage one


Lee - 5/10/2018 at 04:48 PM

There was a snippet on ESPN this morning comparing this Yank team to the last time they did this. I think it was in 1953.

Yogi Berra, Jerry Coleman, Billy Martin, Gil McDougald, Johhny Mize, Phil Rizzuto. Hank Bauer, Mickey Mantle. Oh and did I mention Whitey Ford and Allie Reynolds on the mound?

This Yankee team isn't that good but on paper, they sure are good.

Having said that, there's no way the Yanks can keep up the current pace.


BIGV - 5/11/2018 at 02:49 AM

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Having said that, there's no way the Yanks can keep up the current pace.


I remember the 1984 Tigers Starting the Season at 35-5...and going on to Win 104 Games and a WS Championship.

So, who knows? As much as I dislike the NYY, it's good for Baseball.


Stephen - 5/11/2018 at 03:01 AM

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there's no way the Yanks can keep up the current pace
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Sure there is -- seeing our starter going lights out holding them to one hit and eight Ks over six innings, we can always yank him outta there & watch the roof fall in --
that's the MLB of today -- it's not about winning, it's about preventing the possibility of injury, as these spoiled multi-millionaires whine, piss & moan their way to the DL for whatever it is they think is ailing them -- frustration to the nines

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Stephen - 5/11/2018 at 04:17 PM

David I guess is going to take his turn tmrw in Tor -- whether or not we can depend on him, who knows -- guessing his carpal tunnel will again kick up this season, but maybe our $217 million man has a few good starts left in him

The headline this morning shouted it out -- "Smith Proving The Answer in Bullpen" -- that is what it takes nowadays -- a multi-year process -- Carson is pitching well after a 2 yr absence -- mayb Tyler Thornburg will too in 2019, he's into the second year of his rehab after missing last season

A tale of 2 veterans -- Justin Verlander, 35 (4-1) vs. Cole Hamels, 34 (1-4) -- Justin has been rejuvenated since joining Houston -- elsewhere, 33-year-old former aces Clay Buccholz and Tim Lincecum are attempting comebacks & in the minor league systems of the D-Backs & Rangers

What about Rafael Palmiero? He too wants to come back, at age 53 -- & why not, he's one of only 6 players w/500 HR and 3,000 hits -- let's go Sox


[Edited on 5/11/2018 by Stephen]


emr - 5/11/2018 at 04:26 PM

Re Yanks gleyber is the unknown. Can he keep this up? Except for severino the pitching (starting) is frAgile at best. I don’t like Stanton and Judge in same lineup. Too similar to each other


Stephen - 5/11/2018 at 09:50 PM

MAKES SENSE TO ME -- anything to downsize the game & make it more accessible & fan friendly
______________________________

Jim Kaat Says 7-inning Games Would Enhance Pitching Staffs, Bring In New Fans

Jim Kaat has been around baseball for most of his 79 years, and he doesn't like what he sees in the game today.

So Kaat, a left-handed pitcher whose MLB career began in 1959 and spanned four decades, offered up a radical plan to improve the sport in The Athletic on Friday.

Seven-inning games.

Katt, who has worked in the broadcast booth since 1986 with the Yankees, Twins, NBC and ESPN, and still does an occasional game for MLB Network, says the league's pace of play rules are not enough -- "a little blip on the screen."

Now a special assistant to the Minnesota Twins, Kaat offered up these arguments for his plan:

• It would restore the importance of starting pitchers: "Go five," Kaat said, "and then turn it over to the setup man and closer."

• It would reduce the size of pitching staffs: "When I broke in, there were 16 teams, eight in each league," Kaat said. "You had basically 10 pitchers on a staff, 160 in all of the major leagues. Now you have almost 400."

• It would help bring back four-man rotations, allowing some of the biggest stars in the game to pitch more often: "We went every four days back when we were pitching 300 innings," Kaat said. "These guys are bigger, better, stronger. It would just be a matter of training them."

Kaat dismissed the notion that seven-inning games would render obsolete the history books and the stats that drive so many baseball fans.

"To me, the record book has been distorted over the years in so many ways -- expansion, the DH, 13-man pitching staffs, steroids, can't brush hitters off the plate, livelier bats, hitters diving into the ball," Kaat said. "Craig Kimbrel just got his 300th save. That's a great accomplishment. But 300 saves when Kimbrel does it is a lot different than when Bruce Sutter did it."

Kaat thinks his plan would shorten games and bring in more fans. He says it might keep players healthier. And most important, it might make the game more interesting.

"It's become a home run derby, with more strikeouts," Kaat said. "The fans and players deserve better."



[Edited on 5/11/2018 by Stephen]


porkchopbob - 5/11/2018 at 10:17 PM

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It would reduce the size of pitching staffs: "When I broke in, there were 16 teams, eight in each league," Kaat said. "You had basically 10 pitchers on a staff, 160 in all of the major leagues. Now you have almost 400."



You're probably not going to convince a lot of pitchers to support their own downsizing. Personally, I don't really have a problem with the length of games.


Stephen - 5/11/2018 at 10:37 PM

Many fans do (esp older fans) -- 1-0 and 2-1 games routinely take 3+ hours
Yes downsizing would mean less money -- that's what I have little problem with personally --
a player recently espoused the idea of a shorter season too -- again, I understand that that's taking $ out of people's pockets, but it's too much of it that has screwed the game up -- MLB is too much of everything -- the GAME has become something Messers. Cartwright and Doubleday didn't envision -- it's become a money industry


gondicar - 5/13/2018 at 08:37 PM

Efffff the Yankees go Sox. That is all.


Lee - 5/15/2018 at 10:29 AM

It's only May so obviously a lot of ball to be played. However, if I am on the outside looking in, I think the Yanks are a tad better.

Shame they have that one game play in thing. I hate that. One of those teams could win 90 - 95 games and be done after one day by the Twins or someone like that. Hell my Tiggers are somehow in it at the moment.

I liked it when we had the League Championship series. Then World Series.

Oh wait, there was $$$$$ to be made.


Lee - 5/15/2018 at 08:45 PM

Robinson Cano is a cheater? Wow!


porkchopbob - 5/15/2018 at 09:00 PM

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Shame they have that one game play in thing. I hate that. .


I'm not a fan either. Play a series, not just a game.


Lee - 5/17/2018 at 09:41 AM

Two out of three is even plausible. Give the team with the best record two games at home and if it is tied go back to the other team's stadium. Or do it the other way around so the best team gets the deciding game at home. Heck, let the best team choose what they want to do.

Pretty easy to do something like this. It wouldn't be like coordinating The Super Bowl. Hell Sunday the Braves played a game in Miami, flew to Chicago, played a makeup game there with the Flubs and then flew home to Atlanta to start a three game series with, yes you guessed it, the Flubs.

Makes sense, right?


emr - 5/17/2018 at 05:18 PM

The only beneficiary of one and done is seemingly Madison Bumgarner


Stephen - 5/18/2018 at 04:11 PM

Or David -- a great milestone last night, a CG (Complete Game) -- his fourth in last 3 years (since joining Sox) -- said he felt fine afterward -- maybe he has a few more in him & not just one&done -- any-way, O's are great for what ails ya -- let's go Sox

Clay Returns Sunday -- Sox fans want to see him do well -- he's w/a good team, AZ

[Edited on 5/18/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 5/19/2018 at 11:24 AM

Yep, Tiggers are four games under .500 and only a game and a half out of first. Nuts, huh?


emr - 5/20/2018 at 07:33 PM

The Giants are also 1/2 game under 500 and only 3 games out. I don't expect this to last unless Madbum comes back strong and Cueto heals quickly.

Three observations
1 - The Dodgers may have the worst team/dollar in the history of MLB
2 - Daniel Murphy is sorely missed in Washington. They keep pitching around Harper who is either going to kill himself or someone else
3- I think Didi Gregorious has a significant injury. Too long/too deep for just a slump


Stephen - 5/21/2018 at 06:57 PM

KC, Balt & ChiSox have same records
ChiSox 8.5 outta 1st place in Cntrl
Orioles 17 out in East -- yes an imbalance there
you never know -- they won their wknd series against lowly TX -- now, a quick sweep of low-lier Orioles, & Just Like That -- ChiSox, yep CHI-Sox -- would be in the hunt

SO WHAT -- w/JBJ, Sandy & Christian not having-yet hit, & w/Dustin back this week (hopefully)...
NY hasn't yet seen best of BoSox --
Carson blamed fatigue brought on by misuse for his return to rehab (espn article) -- refrain from comment Stephen/I don't walk in his shoes etc., & Let's Go Sawx, they love us down there (TB), "Sox-Nation" fan base solid there, time to go on a streak

[Edited on 5/21/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 5/24/2018 at 09:45 PM

Lenny Dykstra threatens to kill Uber driver. What will that guy do next?


Stephen - 5/25/2018 at 09:34 PM

Really disappointed to see Hanley DFA'd -- didn't see that coming at all -- Hanley was great & hopefully will continue to be -- let's go Sox


Lee - 5/26/2018 at 11:28 AM

Yeah that surprised me. If I understand it, the Sux are still on the hook for the rest of his contract unless someone else picks him up (doubtful).

Not quite as bad as giving Sandoval all that $$$ but still...


Lee - 5/26/2018 at 11:33 AM

Boy oh boy are the local papers ripping Wellington Castillo a new one. I mean, they are the worst team in baseball so I'm not sure that it really matters.

I do get a chuckle out of Rick Renteria's take on things though. He can spin any bad situation in a good light.

If I cared for the White Sux I would be really pissed with them.


Lee - 5/27/2018 at 11:56 AM

I am starting to get concerned about the Flubs. They should be way over .500 and they obviously are not. I think they even took three out of four against Milwaukee last month.


porkchopbob - 5/27/2018 at 04:10 PM

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I am starting to get concerned about the Flubs. They should be way over .500 and they obviously are not. I think they even took three out of four against Milwaukee last month.



Hopefully they stay at the bottom where the Cubs are supposed to be! Brew Crew are in a nice spot, they've been putting up some big numbers against decent teams in May. (And for the record, they were 1-7 against the Flubs in April but that might as well have been a lifetime ago.)


Lee - 5/28/2018 at 11:21 AM

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I am starting to get concerned about the Flubs. They should be way over .500 and they obviously are not. I think they even took three out of four against Milwaukee last month.



Hopefully they stay at the bottom where the Cubs are supposed to be! Brew Crew are in a nice spot, they've been putting up some big numbers against decent teams in May. (And for the record, they were 1-7 against the Flubs in April but that might as well have been a lifetime ago.)



Just think if was the other way around. Or even 4 -4. Flubs would REALLY be out of it.


Lee - 5/28/2018 at 11:27 AM

My Tiggers are 3.5 games out of first place. And they are 6 games under .500


Lee - 5/30/2018 at 09:51 AM

So my Tiggers get to face Ohtani tonight. I was supposed to go back to Detroit yesterday but I didn't go. I have to go there there Friday. Maybe he will DH and I can catch a game.


Sang - 5/30/2018 at 03:27 PM

Yes, Anthony Rizzo cheated - too bad it took MLB a day or 2 to figure it out.....


Lee - 5/31/2018 at 10:55 AM

I can't believe it was such big news. A guy stuck his foot out a tad? Judgement call I guess. That isn't cheating. Might call him out but he didn't cheat.

A runner ran almost six feet out of the baseline last week trying to avoid a tag at second base. Did he cheat?

And they didn't call it nor did they review that one.


Sang - 5/31/2018 at 04:03 PM

Cheating may have been the wrong word, but he obviously went out of his way to clip the catcher - which is against the "new" rule that is supposed to protect catchers......


Stephen - 6/1/2018 at 04:04 PM

quote:


Clay Returns Sunday -- Sox fans want to see him do well -- he's w/a good team, AZ





"A good team"???
AZ has **** the bed, but Clay pitches tonite -- so far so good (0-1/no discomfort) -- Clay could become a savior for skidding D-backs

they won their series against lowly Miami -- now a series w/also-lowly Cincy, & yep --
…...PADS about to climb out of cellar in anemic NL west

SOME UNEASE THO -- it's the same lame injury so often seen -- "tightness in side, after a practice swing" -- but when it's Mookie -- not good -- get back quick Mookie Betts, our top player --
the left knee is bothersome, unfortunately -- But It's A Long seaon & should settle down for a long-enough period of time for DUSTIN PEDROIA to play extensively/effectively
Hanley, you are not forgotten -- now it's Houston


Lee - 6/7/2018 at 06:40 PM

Just saw that Red Schoendienst passed away. R.I.P. That man spent a long time in The Bigs.


Stephen - 6/7/2018 at 10:47 PM

A career Cardinal -- managed them to the 1967-68 WS, bearing us in '67 -- Red Schoendienst as manager, Stan Musial as their GM, and Lou Brock & Curt Flood at the top of the order -- even Carl couldn't overcome them

Bartolo, 45, tied Juan Marichal on the wins list with 243 -- was thinking Juan reached 243 in less innings, but the opposite is true -- Bartolo 3,300 IP, Juan 3,500

With the bottom of the order not hitting (Sandy is starting to) and no Mookie or Dustin, we won't be able to keep it up too much longer -- let's go Sox, a big game from Steven W Tues

The Braves do still have a team -- it's 90 years ago and they got both Rogers Hornsby and George Sisler -- the town was set on its ear & the Sox in second for a summer (1928) with these two charter HOFers on the same squad -- I remember it well

[Edited on 6/7/2018 by Stephen]


emr - 6/8/2018 at 12:27 AM

Pitchers used to finish what they started. Marichal had 471 games to 550 for Colon.

Maricahl once beat Spahn 1-0 in 16 innings. When Alvin Dark wanted to remove him from the game Juan stated "I'm not coming out as long as that f**ng old man is still pitching."

Best pitcher never to win the Cy Young. Someone (Koufax; Drysdale: Gibson: Seaver) always had a season just a little bit better

Along with Koufax only pitcher with three 25 win seasons in the modern era


Lee - 6/8/2018 at 10:57 AM

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Along with Koufax only pitcher with three 25 win seasons in the modern era


I think Bob Welch won 27 in 1990.

Given the way they are playing the game now, who knows if anyone could win 20. And MLB wonders why games takes so long. Fat guy waddling out of the dugout to change pitchers five or six times a game.


emr - 6/8/2018 at 12:19 PM

Koufax and Marichal won 25 games THREE times each


Lee - 6/8/2018 at 01:52 PM

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Koufax and Marichal won 25 games THREE times each


I think Phil Neikro won AND lost over 20 in the same season. That is something that will never happen again.


Stephen - 6/8/2018 at 03:26 PM

Same Steve "Lefty" Carlton, who won 27 of Phils' 59 wins in 1972 -- 346 IP, players now would sue if they had to pitch that many innings
yep, LAD used eight pitchers in a 9 inning (8.5) game Wed -- Pirates used six, game took 3:48 to play -- I would be more bored than into it at a game like that, even w/the 11-9 final score
Berrios, however, had a CG 6-hitter ystrdy (for MN) -- they've become such an overregulated politically incorrect rarity

[Edited on 6/8/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 6/9/2018 at 11:17 AM

quote:
Steve "Lefty" Carlton, who won 27 of Phils' 59 wins in 1972 -- 346 IP, players now would sue if they had to pitch that many innings


I have always found this amazing. How many games would they have lost without him? If he could have pitched 500 innings would he have won 40? I would have pitched him every third day. Okay, probably not but you get the idea.

Ya think long time Cardinal fans think "what if?"

Too bad he kind of tarnished his legacy by sticking around too long. Even when I was a teen I thought he needed to call it a day.

Not the nicest guy in the world but a great pitcher.


emr - 6/9/2018 at 06:17 PM

Left only stayed around 2-3 years after it was over. Not horrible.

And yeah; he was a beast in 72. Perhaps the best slider ever. And I guess his trade was the Yin to the Yan when they got Lou Brock.

You have to figure he learned a few things from Gibson - who was perhaps the greatest beast of all time.

As Gibson said to Tim McCarver when Tim had the balls to come out to tell Gibson how to pitch
"The only thing you know about good pitching is that you can't hit it."


Lee - 6/10/2018 at 10:17 AM

Give ya that on the Lou Brock trade. God Cub fans have to hate that one. Hall of Famer for a washed up pitcher. I think he had one or two good years.

I do still think Carlton hung on too long.


emr - 6/10/2018 at 01:59 PM

Most athletes do. Its the rare Jim Brown or Barry Sanders


Stephen - 6/10/2018 at 05:56 PM

Sandy Koufax or Marvin Hagler too -- yep exceptions to the rule


emr - 6/10/2018 at 06:06 PM

Kinda of like the Goldilocks sx - cause those three (Koufax; Brown; Sanders) were too soon. Carlton too late

Now Peyton Manning and John Elway - those were "just right"


Stephen - 6/12/2018 at 05:39 PM

Four of the six divisions are tied at the top -- Seattle has won 18 of 23 -- it's huge in Milwaukee w/Cubs in town, they're tied for 1st --
Pirates gotta get going by pulling away from .500 starting tonite -- However, standing in the way is Clay -- sure enough -- 24 carefully-monitored IP spread out over four starts -- 21 K's, allowed just 17 hits & has a 1.88 ERA, so hooray for Clay, hopefully he keeps going good after tonite

MadBum is back, Johnny Cueto & Brandon Belt are nearing returns -- they have Andrew McCutchen & Evan Longoria on a team w/Buster Posey, Hunter Pence
...& w/Pablo Sandoval backwhere he wants to be & playing well -- he looked positively like a speedster legging out an infield hit recently -- Ya The SF Baseball Giants are poised to take over anemic NL West


emr - 6/13/2018 at 01:07 AM

Family has been Giant fans since prior to 1900. Hope Madbum returns to form. ? Cueto? Posey still tops. Think Longoria and Metucheon are past their top games.

But yes; the division is weak. If they can eke into the playoffs and Madbum returns to full they can ride the bull


Lee - 6/13/2018 at 10:35 AM

Miguel Cabrera out for the season.


Stephen - 6/13/2018 at 04:41 PM

quote:
Seattle has won 18 of 23 --


Players like Miggy & Dustin, MAYB, should be/could be looking at the end of great careers -- they've been at it a long time -- Pedey says he still thinks he can return -- his knee is unpredictable, they said it'd be that after his operation

But yes, we see them this wknd., David Price & King Felix tmrw nite -- Mookie should play
3 good innings, then Bucs blew Clay outta the box in 4th before getting blown out themselves


Lee - 6/13/2018 at 08:10 PM

And the Tiggers owe Miggy a ton of guaranteed money. Not sure what they were thinking when they signed him to the contract extension.


Stephen - 6/14/2018 at 04:40 PM

In this matchup of ex-Cy Young winners, 32, David is 5-0 in his last 6 starts, 7-4 overall -- Felix (6-5) has been uneven this season -- we gotta somehow continue to fatten up his ERA tonite, it's 5.70 right now, David's 4.00 -- their race w/Houston is as close as ours is w/NY, as the top 4 teams in MLB

Dubious distinction in Baltimore -- at 27 GB, further out of first place at this 1/3rd mark of the season than almost any team ever, including expansion NY Mets of early 1960s


emr - 6/14/2018 at 07:28 PM

Reading about the Yankees search for upgraded starting pitching and it reminds me how much I hate the one off wild card games.

When it was one wild card only a strong team finishing second didn’t lead them to make drastic moves. Young players were left to develop. Trades were deferred. I truly think there was less concentration of power


Lee - 6/14/2018 at 10:51 PM

Longoria breaks his hand today. Geez the Giants are snake bitten...


Stephen - 6/14/2018 at 10:57 PM

You had the thread title right before -- the Boston Braves
SPAHNIE
June 14, 1952
Boston pitcher Warren Spahn goes all 15 innings, fanning 18 Cubs but losing the game 3-1, despite hitting a HR for Boston's only run
Let's go Sawx, it's huge in Seattle this wknd

[Edited on 6/14/2018 by Stephen]


Stephen - 6/15/2018 at 02:28 AM

How did I miss this one too
June 14, 1974
Nolan Ryan whiffs 19 batters in 13 innings, including Cecil Cooper six consecutive times, in the Angels' 4-3 victory over Boston in 15 innings in Anaheim. The RHP's performance will be the first of three 19-strikeout outings the Texan throws this season.


Stephen - 6/15/2018 at 02:39 PM

Good start, good start -- tonite is likely to be identical, ie well pitched game w/Sox winning -- their kid is 6-1, & ups to Rick (8-3) -- he didn't miss a turn last year & hasn't so far this -- a crucial one to get 2nite w/our 4 & 5 going the 2 wknd games

Paper (Herald) didn't have that Nolan R blurb -- it did have Warren's, also this on a June 14 the Sox'd like to forget
1969
Reggie Jackson drives in 10 runs in Oakland's 21-7 rout of the Sox. The A's outfielder's offensive output in the Fenway Park contest includes a pair of two-run homers, a double, and a single.


IPowrie - 6/15/2018 at 06:50 PM

Made it to Wrigley last weekend. It was a fun time. We were in the last row of the upper deck behind home plate which was a great view.


Lee - 6/15/2018 at 11:08 PM

quote:
You had the thread title right before -- the Boston Braves



Except they have been in Atlanta since 1966 I think it is.


Stephen - 6/16/2018 at 02:13 AM

quote:
quote:
You had the thread title right before -- the Boston Braves



Except they have been in Atlanta since 1966 I think it is.


??? -- yes I was aware of that -- just wanted to mention Warren's 1952 gem as a Braves player -- you renamed the thread "Are they still the Boston Braves" last week --
also June 14, in 1965, Jim Maloney pitched a 10-inning no-hitter for the Reds & lost.
He did it again later that summer, this time winning -- I don't think even Warren did that in one season


Lee - 6/16/2018 at 01:38 PM

Didn't know about Maloney's. Can't be as heart breaking as Harvey Haddix pitching 13 perfect innings and losing. I read this thing where this writer suggested Haddix should be credited with throwing a no hitter since he went nine innings without giving up a hit. I found that thought interesting.


Stephen - 6/16/2018 at 05:07 PM

Same Here -- some sort of recognition for a 9-inning no-no is warranted -- crazy w/Maloney tho, twice in 1 season -- a Reds great (1960-70) -- 134-84 lifetime W-L -- 20-9, 2.77 ERA, in 255 IP in 1965

[Edited on 6/16/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 6/18/2018 at 12:44 AM

Here's a weird one. In 1952 Virgil Trucks went 5 and 19. Two of the wins were no hitters. What are the odds of that?

I think his nephew was Butch and Derek is a great nephew. Think I got that right. Me being from Detroit I remember my grandpa talking highly of him when I asked years ago. I have a handful of baseball cards of him. Was never able to get him to sign one.


oldcoot - 6/18/2018 at 05:08 PM

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Didn't know about Maloney's. Can't be as heart breaking as Harvey Haddix pitching 13 perfect innings and losing. I read this thing where this writer suggested Haddix should be credited with throwing a no hitter since he went nine innings without giving up a hit. I found that thought interesting.


They used to be recognized and then baseball modified recognition to it only being a pitcher who didn't allow a hit to the other team through a full nine innings (or more) and completed the game. They took recognition away from pitchers who went eight innings and didn't allow a hit but lost the game 1-0 as the visiting team (pitcher only threw eight innings, not a "full game"), which I thought stinks too.

But then, I still consider Hank Aaron the all-time leader in home runs and Roger Maris for the most in one season. But that's just me.


Stephen - 6/19/2018 at 04:42 PM

Sort of a dfrnt sbjct but they never credited Andres Gallaraga w/a perfect game either, which I think is completely bogus -- ump blew the call, the runner was out, perfect game


emr - 6/19/2018 at 04:55 PM

I was thinking about that game but couldn’t remember Gallaragos name. That call wasn’t even close

Moly Pappas lost a perfect game with a 2 out 9 inning walk and went ballistic. That was a borderline call however


Lee - 6/20/2018 at 12:13 PM

Do you mean Armando Galarraga of the Tigers? That was a bad call. I kind of felt bad for the ump, Jim Joyce. It was kind of neat the next day when Galarraga was given the official lineup card to take to the ump which was Joyce. Ump had tears in his eyes because he knew he had blown the call.

Thought that was VERY classy of Galarraga. Guy didn't have a long career by any means but it would be cool to be in the record books.


Stephen - 6/21/2018 at 09:59 PM

Jesus -- now it's NY & Houston
blink of an eye, we're 2 GB
it's 3.5 for Seattle -- we split w/them last weekend -- we have to win the series this wknd -- we miss King Felix, it should be a go -- we got the bats fired up this aftrn -- let's go Sox


Lee - 6/22/2018 at 01:16 PM

quote:
Jesus -- now it's NY & Houston
blink of an eye, we're 2 GB
it's 3.5 for Seattle -- we split w/them last weekend -- we have to win the series this wknd -- we miss King Felix, it should be a go -- we got the bats fired up this aftrn -- let's go Sox



I've said this before but I REALLY hate the one game play in thing. Yanks and Red Sux could have the the best records in the league and one gets bumped after a day.

College can do two out of three, why not MLB? If they are so concerned about travel just give the whole mini series home field to whoever wins the division.


Stephen - 6/22/2018 at 02:54 PM

Agreed -- it doesn't prove a thing -- wish they'd left it at the top 3 & 1 WC --
I'd like to see a retro move to two divisions, the winners playing 3 of 5 -- get rid of the "ALDS" format in favor of one ALCS

On One Day.
On one day in August 1992, Giants pitcher Bud Black had a career record of 92-92, and the teams for which he played had a 796-796 record, the ultimate .500 pitcher.


Stephen - 6/22/2018 at 03:13 PM

quote:
it's early yet but sevrl teams, Cincy, SD, Miami, Tex, Balt others, are already near wait-til-next-year mode -- ChiSox & KC would be but are in weak div


wait tho -- the Red Stockings, America's original team (1869) are making a move (W4) in the NL Cntrl -- Texas, W5 -- other end, ChiSox & KC a combined L16, groty

Also Seattle L4, & we have to expose them to the same level of play this wknd that they just saw in NY -- we have to show 'em it's not just NY & Houston, that we're at that level too & can't slide any further back -- they have easy ones this wknd (Houstn/NYY) -- let's go Sox, boys of summer


Lee - 6/22/2018 at 05:09 PM

Speaking of today's title, does anyone know what team they are today? Without Googling?


BIGV - 6/22/2018 at 05:34 PM

quote:
Speaking of today's title, does anyone know what team they are today? Without Googling?


Sure do and here's how I ask this as a trivia question:

"If the Boston Braves became the Milwaukee Braves who then became the Atlanta Braves, where did the Brewers come from"?


Lee - 6/22/2018 at 06:49 PM

This lady I used to know who is from Milwaukee fancies herself a baseball fan. I asked her if she knew where the Brewers moved from. She didn't know. Didn't rub it in but I did kind of chuckle.


Lee - 6/23/2018 at 11:28 AM

What very well known future manager played on the Seattle Pilots?


Lee - 6/23/2018 at 02:52 PM

Nobody? Lou Piniella.


Lee - 6/26/2018 at 09:55 PM

So I went to an independent league minor league game today. The Chicago Dogs. I would equate the talent level to low single A minor league. Not a knock. It was good. Cool stadium, cheap refreshments, a ton of kids there.

It was kind of a hike to get there but had a lot of fun.


porkchopbob - 6/26/2018 at 10:13 PM

quote:
This lady I used to know who is from Milwaukee fancies herself a baseball fan. I asked her if she knew where the Brewers moved from. She didn't know. Didn't rub it in but I did kind of chuckle.


As a Brewers fan myself, I can say most Brew fans know this, but since it was just a single season in Seattle, there are just as many Brewers and Mariners fans who aren't aware of the Pilots (I think both franchises have worn Pilots throwbacks). Just as there are a lot of Orioles fans who aren't aware their team started as the Milwaukee Brewers for a single season. You could still find plenty of Braves fans in the area in the 80s and 90s, though the early 80s Brewers squads thinned their ranks and converted a lot of folks.

The American League was actually founded in Milwaukee, and their team immediately left town. Coincidentally, the only one of the 8 original AL teams to fold were the Baltimore Orioles, who were eventually reborn from the original Milwaukee Brewers (after a few decades in St Louis). And the Orioles' demise led immediately to the formation of the NY Highlanders.

I think the Brewers are the only team to lose a World Series and a League Championship to the same team.


porkchopbob - 6/26/2018 at 10:28 PM

quote:
Sure do and here's how I ask this as a trivia question:

"If the Boston Braves became the Milwaukee Braves who then became the Atlanta Braves, where did the Brewers come from"?


And if people dislike the Washington "Redskins" name they can blame Boston Red Sox and the Atlanta Braves.

Since early NFL teams attempted to gain fans by changing their names to mirror the established baseball teams whose stadiums they shared (Bears/Cubs, Lions/Tigers). Sometimes they used the exact same name such as the NY Giants, Pittsburgh Pirates (later the Steelers), and the Boston Braves. When the Boston Braves football team moved from the NL's Braves' stadium to Fenway, they kept the same Native American theme, but added "Red" to mirror Fenway's Red Sox, becoming the Boston Redskins.


Sang - 6/26/2018 at 10:30 PM

quote:
So I went to an independent league minor league game today. The Chicago Dogs. I would equate the talent level to low single A minor league. Not a knock. It was good. Cool stadium, cheap refreshments, a ton of kids there.

It was kind of a hike to get there but had a lot of fun.


We have the Windy City Thunderbolts close - I go to one game a year and it is fun. Joliet has a team fairly close by too.....

Tuesday night games at Windy City are $2 admission and $2 parking - $4 for a 16-oz Goose Island 4 Star Pils ....


porkchopbob - 6/26/2018 at 10:33 PM

quote:
What very well known future manager played on the Seattle Pilots?


Pinella was drafted by the Pilots in the expansion draft, but was traded to KC Royals before opening day.


sckeys - 6/27/2018 at 03:21 AM

Anybody diggin the college World Series? We have no local teams in this year but I always watch. I enjoy it when these small wonder teams get in and make a go at it.


Stephen - 6/27/2018 at 06:00 PM

quote:
quote:
So I went to an independent league minor league game today. The Chicago Dogs. I would equate the talent level to low single A minor league. Not a knock. It was good. Cool stadium, cheap refreshments, a ton of kids there.

It was kind of a hike to get there but had a lot of fun.


We have the Windy City Thunderbolts close - I go to one game a year and it is fun. Joliet has a team fairly close by too.....

Tuesday night games at Windy City are $2 admission and $2 parking - $4 for a 16-oz Goose Island 4 Star Pils ....


We have the Vermont Mountaineers, a college all-star league of sorts, something along the lines of the Cape Cod League -- real enjoyable, bball the way it was meant to be, a fun, very good brand of ball, $6 tickets -- the Vermont Lake Monsters, Oakland A's AA affiliate, play in Burlington

Jim Bouton of Ball 4 fame pitched for the Seattle Pilots (upstairs not google)

"15 years goes qwiker than it used to"
June 27 2003, the Sawx set a record scoring 10 runs before the first out is recorded in a 25-8 win -- score 14 runs in 1st inning, Johnny Damon sets, or ties, record w/3 hits in 1st inning


Lee - 6/27/2018 at 06:11 PM

quote:
quote:
What very well known future manager played on the Seattle Pilots?


Pinella was drafted by the Pilots in the expansion draft, but was traded to KC Royals before opening day.


Guess I asked the wrong question. But I wasn't born at the time...


Lee - 6/28/2018 at 12:19 PM

quote:
Anybody diggin the college World Series? We have no local teams in this year but I always watch. I enjoy it when these small wonder teams get in and make a go at it.


And we get a game three!


Lee - 6/28/2018 at 05:25 PM

The Tiggers just fired their pitching coach Chris Bosio for insensitive comments, whatever that means. So he was there all of three months. I wonder what he did.


Stephen - 6/28/2018 at 06:41 PM

They're alleging a racial slur, from what I've read -- saw today's title, & Sammy continues to deny he took anything illegal (espn article) -- all the greats like him, Barry B, McGwire, the Rocket, Palmieri etc deserve their own special place

but gosh a deserved feast or what -- Seattle, bounced in 3 straight series w/the iron of the league, Sox & NY -- then along comes big relief in Balt, now lowly-easy KC this wknd, boom, right back on Hstn's case -- crazy scheduling

what can top it tho, Sawx-NY, the two top dogs meeting in the Bronx on 4th of July wknd (?)

hopefully the guy is OK who got hurt at home plate last nite -- in severe pain, carted off the field, rushed to hospital, no word yet on injury

if Billy Hamilton ever did anything w/the bat, going the way Cincy is going right now....

nope it proved out, Boone replacing Girardi, same Cora for Farrell -- Brandon Phillips is a good pickup, a veteran player who'll help

Finally, Do-We, Do-We, Do-We -- in the greatest game of his career, Dwight Evans belts a game winning 3 run HR to complete hitting for the cycle on this day in 1984

Also Craig Biggio in 2007 became just the 9th player ever to attain 3,000 hits w/one team


[Edited on 6/28/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 6/28/2018 at 07:07 PM

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Also Craig Biggio in 2007 became just the 9th player ever to attain 3,000 hits w/one team


[Edited on 6/28/2018 by Stephen]


Without looking it up and off the top of my head, the greatest player of all time, George Brett , Yount, Kaline, Clemente, Mays, Aaron. I think those are some of them.





[Edited on 6/28/2018 by Lee]


Lee - 6/28/2018 at 07:15 PM

quote:
They're alleging a racial slur, from what I've read -- saw today's title, & Sammy continues to deny he took anything illegal (espn article) -- all the greats like him, Barry B, McGwire, the Rocket, Palmieri etc deserve their own special place



Sosa has been trying to get back into good graces with the Cubs recently. This story was all over the local news this morning. I don't see it happening. Every Cubs fan here can't stand the guy so I don't think it would be a good idea.

Hell, he walked out on the team during a game.


Stephen - 6/28/2018 at 10:14 PM

As if an L9 weren't enough, Bosio is now considering legal action against Det
-------------

A day after he was fired as pitching coach of the Detroit Tigers for using what the team called insensitive comments toward a club employee, Chris Bosio says what happened was a misunderstanding and that he will explore potential legal action against the organization.

"I'm crushed,'' Bosio told USA Today. "I'm absolutely crushed. I still can't believe it's gotten to this point.

"I'm in shock.''

The Tigers on Wednesday fired Bosio for his comments, saying they violated the organization's "zero tolerance for this type of behavior."

Bosio explained his side of the story. While in his cubicle inside the Tigers coaches office, he says he used the word "monkey" to describe Detroit pitcher Daniel Stumpf, who is white. However, Bosio said a clubhouse attendant who is African-American overheard what he said and thought Bosio was talking about him.

[Edited on 6/28/2018 by Stephen]


oldcoot - 6/29/2018 at 02:48 PM

quote:
quote:


Also Craig Biggio in 2007 became just the 9th player ever to attain 3,000 hits w/one team


[Edited on 6/28/2018 by Stephen]


Without looking it up and off the top of my head, the greatest player of all time, George Brett , Yount, Kaline, Clemente, Mays, Aaron. I think those are some of them.





[Edited on 6/28/2018 by Lee]



Musial. Gwynn. Jeter.

If it means all career hits, including reaching 3,000, with only a single team, that group above would change due to Aaron, Mays etc. switching teams late in their careers.


Stephen - 6/29/2018 at 05:55 PM

Hank played 12 years in Milwaukee, then 9 years in Atlnta, then finished back in Milwaukee
same Willie, started in NY (Polo Grounds), then the move to SF where he spent most of his career before, like Hank, returning to where his career began


Lee - 6/29/2018 at 08:04 PM

It's a fun trivia question. Gonna have to put that one in my back pocket for a friend of mine. We always try to best each other at sports trivia.


Lee - 6/29/2018 at 08:29 PM

Here's one: This was a bar bet a guy I know gave to me years ago and I think I got it right. Kind of difficult. He asked that at every position, who won MVPs in two consecutive seasons?

I got a bunch of them. Yogi Berra catcher

Mike Schmidt third

Ernie Banks short

Joe Morgan Second

Jimmie Fox first

Dale Murphy left

Mickey Mantle Center

Barry Bonds right

There are a few others afterwords I think.

Again, these are off the top of my head. I thought Mays did but I'm not sure.

There was only one pitcher which is the tough one. Played for the Tigers.



[Edited on 7/1/2018 by Lee]


oldcoot - 6/29/2018 at 10:21 PM

Hal Newhouser?


Lee - 6/29/2018 at 11:03 PM

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Hal Newhouser?



Yup. I wanna say '44 & '45. Not sure why he wasn't in the war.


oldcoot - 6/29/2018 at 11:44 PM

quote:
It's a fun trivia question. Gonna have to put that one in my back pocket for a friend of mine. We always try to best each other at sports trivia.



Great site for all kinds of trivia including a bunch of baseball, www.sporcle.com.


To answer the earlier question about players who got 3,000 hits or more all with one team (they didn't specifically have that quiz, but if your do their 3,000 hit club quiz the answers become obvious):

Musial
Jeter
Yastrzemski
Brett
Yount
Gwynn
Biggio
Kaline
Clemente


Lee - 6/30/2018 at 10:39 AM

ALL with one team. So that would obviously exclude Mays & Aaron.


oldcoot - 6/30/2018 at 02:35 PM

quote:
It's a fun trivia question. Gonna have to put that one in my back pocket for a friend of mine. We always try to best each other at sports trivia.



Try this one, name the four players in MLB history to have homered while still a teenager and also at 40 or more years of age.


Stephen - 6/30/2018 at 03:34 PM

Good one
Rusty Staub, L'Grand Orange

Al Kaline?
Willie McCovey?
Ty Cobb?



Stephen - 6/30/2018 at 04:07 PM

They smoked us last night -- Chris will have to be sharp 2nite, to give us a shot at Severino Sunday & the series -- they're playing at nite, outta the brutal daytime heat

AL West is competitive right now -- King Felix & Bartolo, 46, will school their opponents tonite -- Oakland W5 --
Tygiz are history amid controversy which, if it was like Bosio said it was w/regard to his dismissal, oh God -- unbelievable ......
however, Gardenhire is defending the move, & Stumpf says he didn't have any "Spider Monkey" nickname that he was aware of.....

oh these prim & proper times -- sensitivity training classes are next, hurties MUST be monitored at all times -- & let's go Sawx, Blow Their Stinkin Doors Off


oldcoot - 6/30/2018 at 04:25 PM

quote:
Good one
Rusty Staub, L'Grand Orange

Al Kaline?
Willie McCovey?
Ty Cobb?






You have two of them.


Lee - 6/30/2018 at 07:26 PM

I have Mickey's Monkey on my itunes. Am I allowed to play that?


oldcoot - 6/30/2018 at 11:10 PM

quote:
Good one
Rusty Staub, L'Grand Orange

Al Kaline?
Willie McCovey?
Ty Cobb?





Staub & Cobb are the two correct.


emr - 7/1/2018 at 12:46 AM

I googled the other two; wouldn't have gotten one of the if I live to be a thousand


Lee - 7/1/2018 at 11:16 AM

Kaline probably got the first half correct.


emr - 7/1/2018 at 12:44 PM

When I was a Kid Kaline was half a trivia answer. He had most home runs without a 30 homer season (399) and Stan the Man had the most homers without a 40 homer season (475)

What two batters have surpased Stan?

And re: Al Kaline. I remember buying a Kaline glove at the end of his career. It was 1/3 cheaper than the exact same glove endorsed by an up and comer. As my kids will tell you I'm a cheap SOB. RIP for that glove b1972 d2004


oldcoot - 7/1/2018 at 08:52 PM

quote:
When I was a Kid Kaline was half a trivia answer. He had most home runs without a 30 homer season (399) and Stan the Man had the most homers without a 40 homer season (475)

What two batters have surpased Stan?

And re: Al Kaline. I remember buying a Kaline glove at the end of his career. It was 1/3 cheaper than the exact same glove endorsed by an up and comer. As my kids will tell you I'm a cheap SOB. RIP for that glove b1972 d2004


Eddie Murray and Fred McGriff.


oldcoot - 7/1/2018 at 08:54 PM

quote:
quote:
Good one
Rusty Staub, L'Grand Orange

Al Kaline?
Willie McCovey?
Ty Cobb?





Staub & Cobb are the two correct.


Sheffield and A-Fraud* are the other two.


Stephen - 7/2/2018 at 03:26 PM

He mashed 521 of em, many of the tape-measure variety
Yet his all-time Bomb, one that rendered useless any tape measure, Is Not Among Them :WTF: -- a rocket literally last seen somewhere out over what is now the area known as McCovey's Cove

Tape measure? What good would that have done when, as Willie was quoted in later years, "the ball landed in Oakland"

So dumbfounded were the umpires as they lost sight of the ball as it left Candlestick, that they called it foul -- Willie was angry, Al Dark raised a good stink, all of course to no avail -- press & fans who had the angle on it also saw it fair

Yet this mega-blown call unwittingly paved the way for the greatest pitchers duel of all time -- Juan-Spahn, July 2, 1963, 16 shutout innings each, SF won on a Willie Mays HR

Stretch's moon shot was bottom of the ninth too & would've won the game -- Warren almost did -- at the plate top 7, thought he spotted something in his opposite #'s high-kicking delivery, Boom -- the 42 year old iron man crushed one off the RF fence, just missing a HR

these #s have to look like Greek to the modern-day fan, who missed it when it was a Game & men were men -- Warren, 35 career HR, the most by any pitcher ever -- it's true, you could look it up

[Edited on 7/2/2018 by Stephen]


emr - 7/2/2018 at 05:48 PM

I was at this game in 1965 at Shea

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NYN/NYN196508270.shtml

McCovey hit two homers. One was a skyscraper of the scoreboard. The other one was a liner that was the hardest hit ball I've ever seen. If my 9 year old brain encoded it properly it was like Back To The Future; the ball was out of the park before it was pitched.

Mays was the best hitter on the Giants; "Stretch" was the most feared,


Lee - 7/2/2018 at 08:35 PM

quote:
I was at this game in 1965 at Shea

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NYN/NYN196508270.shtml

McCovey hit two homers. One was a skyscraper of the scoreboard. The other one was a liner that was the hardest hit ball I've ever seen. If my 9 year old brain encoded it properly it was like Back To The Future; the ball was out of the park before it was pitched.

Mays was the best hitter on the Giants; "Stretch" was the most feared,



1965? Boy are you old!

There are times I wish I had been around in the '60s. Some of those great HOFers. The pitchers. Gibson, Drysdale, Koufax, Marichal.

They would stick it in your ear just for looking at them.


emr - 7/2/2018 at 10:05 PM

LOL re: age. As Mickey Mantle said: "If I knew I was going to live this long I would have taken better care of myself."

60's were a great time for baseball; that's for sure. Gibson is perhaps my favorite athlete of all time (maybe except for Dave Debusschere - cause if I had enough talent to play pro he's theguy I would have played like.

We were big Giant fans - going back to my granfather c1898 when he came to the US. When the Yankees beat the Giants 1-0 in Game 7 to win the WS in 1962 "Stretch" hit a ferocious line drive with runners on 2/3 and two out. Unfortunately it went straight into the glove of Bobby Richardson.

My grandfather was 81 and a bit senile. He went right after a hammer and attacked either his radio or TV screaming "I'll kill the SOB" My grandmother tackled him then called us over. He died 2 mos later - no doubt that took the little bit of life he had left out of him


oldcoot - 7/2/2018 at 10:39 PM

I lived less than 1/2 mile from Gibson's house in Omaha. Every once in a while my buddies and me would ride our bikes past there and he'd be outside doing some yard work.

Funny thing about the end to the '60 and '62 World Series game sevens. One won by NY, one lost. Ralph Terry was on the mound, and pitcher of record in each. Mazeroski homers and McCovey lines out. Hit 'em where they ain't I guess.


emr - 7/2/2018 at 10:45 PM

Guaranteed not of u punks f*+*d w mr Gibson. Only guy I’d have feared more than my dad or the police. You’d have prayed to be arrested and beaten.

And re the tag at the end of your post. At the end of the movie Liberty Valence the reporter states “when the truth and the legend disagree always print the legend”


Lee - 7/3/2018 at 09:58 AM

quote:
I lived less than 1/2 mile from Gibson's house in Omaha. Every once in a while my buddies and me would ride our bikes past there and he'd be outside doing some yard work.

Funny thing about the end to the '60 and '62 World Series game sevens. One won by NY, one lost. Ralph Terry was on the mound, and pitcher of record in each. Mazeroski homers and McCovey lines out. Hit 'em where they ain't I guess.



Did he throw rakes at you?


emr - 7/3/2018 at 01:23 PM

"Don’t dig in against Bob Gibson, he'll knock you down. He'd knock down his own grandmother if she dared to challenge him. Don't stare at him, don't smile at him, don't talk to him. He doesn't like it. If you happen to hit a home run, don't run too slow, don't run too fast. If you happen to want to celebrate, get in the tunnel first. And if he hits you, don't charge the mound, because he's a Gold Glove boxer. I'm like, damn, what about my seventeen-game hitting streak? That was the night it ended." - Hank Aaron


Lee - 7/3/2018 at 04:04 PM

quote:
"Don’t dig in against Bob Gibson, he'll knock you down. He'd knock down his own grandmother if she dared to challenge him. Don't stare at him, don't smile at him, don't talk to him. He doesn't like it. If you happen to hit a home run, don't run too slow, don't run too fast. If you happen to want to celebrate, get in the tunnel first. And if he hits you, don't charge the mound, because he's a Gold Glove boxer. I'm like, damn, what about my seventeen-game hitting streak? That was the night it ended." - Hank Aaron



Can't remember who said it but I think they were talking about Gibson and the quote was something along the lines of "He was so mean he would throw at his Grandma on Mother's Day".


Stephen - 7/3/2018 at 04:38 PM

Great story about your grandpa & the end of the '62 WS emr -- & your fam's long history w/the Giants -- as far back as Big Six himself -- have your or fam members ever been to the annual Christy Mathewson Day in Factoryville PA -- the legendary unhittable fadeaway pitch -- gosh your grandpa must have similarly melted down when that foul ball dropped between Christy & 2 other players in the ???? WS (1912 I think) -- a lifelong fan, awesome

most of Matty's #s have been upstairs since a kid, always been a fan of the old timers -- 37-3 one year -- passed away tragically young (45) from exposure to poison something during WW I -- occured during 1925 WS & somber players from both teams wore black armbands knowing they were peons compared to the great Big Six


Stephen - 7/3/2018 at 05:15 PM

Pretty good chance of a Tyler Thornburg sighting over the wknd, so they're saying -- they're in KC, they can cautiously slot him in for a few pitches vs a weak offense -- what will Tyler do after one-and-a-half years out -- hopefully not what Carson did

In a scheduling quirk Seattle plays only LA & Colo over next few weeks -- after playing us twice & NY, the schedule since has been more-than kind to mariners (W7, half-game behind Hou)

Dustin P in NY spending time w/physician who did his operation last fall -- this wasn't the result that was expected -- yes they did say discomfort would recur periodically, but this was still not the desired outcome keeping sidelined a great player -- inflammation is persisting

BOSTON RED SOX


emr - 7/3/2018 at 07:25 PM

quote:
Great story about your grandpa & the end of the '62 WS emr -- & your fam's long history w/the Giants -- as far back as Big Six himself -- have your or fam members ever been to the annual Christy Mathewson Day in Factoryville PA -- the legendary unhittable fadeaway pitch -- gosh your grandpa must have similarly melted down when that foul ball dropped between Christy & 2 other players in the ???? WS (1912 I think) -- a lifelong fan, awesome

most of Matty's #s have been upstairs since a kid, always been a fan of the old timers -- 37-3 one year -- passed away tragically young (45) from exposure to poison something during WW I -- occured during 1925 WS & somber players from both teams wore black armbands knowing they were peons compared to the great Big Six


I was only 6 when my grandfather died; so don't have much recollection.


What killed me is never got to share a championship with my dad (1954 was 2 years before I was born) He died just before the Giants blew the series in 2002. The even year streak ran hollow (my brother has defected to the Yankees. Better than the Dodgers.


I just remember staying up to 2:00 AM listening to west coast game on the radio with my dad. Some of our best times together. In 1971 I think it was the Pirates took them out in the playoffs (courtesy of three Bob Roberstson homes.) Giants ran out of gas as Marichal and Perry had to finish up the season and they had no other good pitchers. Dad promised a trip to Baltiore for the WS if the Giants won.


Stephen - 7/3/2018 at 10:32 PM

Paternal side of my fam goes almost as far back w/the Cleveland Indians -- my dad told me all about watching Hal Trosky, Earl Averill & his other heroes -- we were Indians fans growing up, I idolized 3B Max Alvis, Yankee killer, 1B Fred Whitfield, DaddyWags, the great Leon Wagner, Rocky Colavito, of course Sudden Sam et al -- Bob Feller said back in the day Sam's fastball compared to his own

-- at any rate we moved to Boston, where shortly after 1967 came along & Sox fans sprang up everywhere, Including Here -- been on the bus since then


emr - 7/3/2018 at 11:56 PM

Sudden Sam if not for his alcoholism might have been one of the all-time greats


Lee - 7/4/2018 at 12:45 PM

Stupid Tigers blew another one yesterday. Deciding if I want to drop $120 for a pair of tickets today at Wrigley. I can probably get something cheaper outside.


Stephen - 7/4/2018 at 01:27 PM

Hope everyone has a good holiday today -- I'll take my medicine -- gotta take the good w/the bad etc -- Soc fans can't think "4th of July" w/out thinking of Righetti's 1983 no hitter -- it was Carl's last year, he wasn't in the lineup tho so that explains it -- only 41G in attendance, rivalry had cooled down from torrid mid 70s-1980 etc

Yes, no Miggy, ex-pitching coach suing -- long 2nd half looms for Tigers -- same us if Dustin remains out & JBJ & catchers don't start hitting -- let's go Sox


oldcoot - 7/4/2018 at 03:49 PM

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quote:
I lived less than 1/2 mile from Gibson's house in Omaha. Every once in a while my buddies and me would ride our bikes past there and he'd be outside doing some yard work.

Funny thing about the end to the '60 and '62 World Series game sevens. One won by NY, one lost. Ralph Terry was on the mound, and pitcher of record in each. Mazeroski homers and McCovey lines out. Hit 'em where they ain't I guess.



Did he throw rakes at you?



No, he'd actually wave a little sometimes.


Stephen - 7/9/2018 at 02:39 PM

OAKLAND has won 16 of 20 -- gotta hand it to them, competitive almost every year despite a small budget -- now going into a huge series w/Houston -- Jed Lowrie is having a career year -- so is another ex-Sox, Jon Lester, for surging Cubs

WED. NITE., for all the nationally-televised marbles -- Bartolo, 45, vs. Chris Sale

"ChiSox & KC a combined L16, groty"
Now it's an L14, but gro-tier still is the situation at venerable Camden Yards -- players, coaches, upstairs types, concerned alums -- all embarrassed that it's gotten to this point, & if there's any way possible to make something of the season

RIP, Frank Ramsey -- 6th-man prototype, 7 rings w/Celts -- came up here from Kentucky & played 9 tremendous seasons in Boston -- one of the greats indeed

[Edited on 7/9/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 7/11/2018 at 09:26 PM

You guys might like this. At Comiskey they have these seats called "Scout Seats". We went to the game last night and my wife got them. These are amazing. Buffet, open bar and free everything for the game.

So you walk through this runway to get to your seats. The umpire dressing room is right there en route. You walk right by it. This guy comes running by us and is pounding on the door to the dressing room to try to get in. I thought he had a uniform on of some sort. An attendant lets him in.

Goes in and comes out of the room. He runs by me, almost knocks me over, I spilled my beer on my wife. Told me to get out of his way.

He was one of the umps.

[Edited on 7/11/2018 by Lee]

[Edited on 7/11/2018 by Lee]


oldcoot - 7/12/2018 at 03:57 PM

quote:
You guys might like this. At Comiskey they have these seats called "Scout Seats". We went to the game last night and my wife got them. These are amazing. Buffet, open bar and free everything for the game.

So you walk through this runway to get to your seats. The umpire dressing room is right there en route. You walk right by it. This guy comes running by us and is pounding on the door to the dressing room to try to get in. I thought he had a uniform on of some sort. An attendant lets him in.

Goes in and comes out of the room. He runs by me, almost knocks me over, I spilled my beer on my wife. Told me to get out of his way.

He was one of the umps.

[Edited on 7/11/2018 by Lee]

[Edited on 7/11/2018 by Lee]


I'd have called outside the baseline interference on him for bumping into you.

And if he argued with you, I'd have tossed him!


Lee - 7/12/2018 at 04:07 PM

The beers were free!


Stephen - 7/12/2018 at 04:34 PM

must've been a riot when you saw the guy banging on the door, out there on the field umpiring -- the umps, right there w/the fans, cool

Chris Sale last night, radio announcers said, became 1st-ever to throw 5 straight games of at least 11 Ks and 1 or less walk -- in his last 7 games his ERA is under 1.00 they said, along w/other stats -- the guy is so lights out right now, just a stud --

feel bad for Pedey -- a bad knee is a bad knee & all the hot- **** hi tech modern medical science doesn't change that -- Nunez & Holt have platooned effectively in Dustin's absence --

w/Vasquez out, Sandy now catching backed up by Swihart -- typical overzealous MLB worrywarts, it was actually the protective glove he was wearing that caused Christian's broken finger

TB has done away entirely w/starting pitching -- their 1st pitcher usually goes no more than 2 IP (it was 1 IP last nite)
-- this is a radical trend, which in this day & age of minimum IPs, other teams likely to follow suit -- bottom-line, it's working big-time for them (they've won 14 of 18)

Most Celts fans had hoped Marcus S would've been signed & in the fold by now -- it hasn't happened, not a good sign -- it should've been 1st order of business


[Edited on 7/12/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 7/12/2018 at 05:04 PM

quote:
must've been a riot when you saw the guy banging on the door, out there on the field umpiring -- the umps, right there w/the fans, cool
Chris Sale last night, radio announcers said, became 1st-ever to throw 5 straight games of at least 11 Ks and 1 or less walk -- in his last 7 games his ERA is under 1.00 they said, along w/other stats -- the guy is so lights out right now, just a stud --

Most fans had hoped Marcus S would've been signed & in the fold by now -- it hasn't happened, not a good sign -- it should've been 1st order of business


What's wrong with David Price?


Stephen - 7/12/2018 at 10:18 PM

quote:
quote:
must've been a riot when you saw the guy banging on the door, out there on the field umpiring -- the umps, right there w/the fans, cool

Chris Sale last night, radio announcers said, became 1st-ever to throw 5 straight games of at least 11 Ks and 1 or less walk -- in his last 7 games his ERA is under 1.00 they said, along w/other stats -- the guy is so lights out right now, just a stud --

feel bad for Pedey -- a bad knee is a bad knee & all the hot- **** hi tech modern medical science doesn't change that -- Nunez & Holt have platooned effectively in Dustin's absence --

w/Vasquez out, Sandy now catching backed up by Swihart -- typical overzealous MLB worrywarts, it was actually the protective glove he was wearing that caused Christian's broken finger

Most Celts fans had hoped Marcus S would've been signed & in the fold by now -- it hasn't happened, not a good sign -- it should've been 1st order of business


What's wrong with David Price?



9-6, 4.44 ERA -- w/a 10-game win streak, not to mention his own 10th win, on the line, guessing David will pitch well


Lee - 7/13/2018 at 10:28 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
must've been a riot when you saw the guy banging on the door, out there on the field umpiring -- the umps, right there w/the fans, cool

Chris Sale last night, radio announcers said, became 1st-ever to throw 5 straight games of at least 11 Ks and 1 or less walk -- in his last 7 games his ERA is under 1.00 they said, along w/other stats -- the guy is so lights out right now, just a stud --

feel bad for Pedey -- a bad knee is a bad knee & all the hot- **** hi tech modern medical science doesn't change that -- Nunez & Holt have platooned effectively in Dustin's absence --

w/Vasquez out, Sandy now catching backed up by Swihart -- typical overzealous MLB worrywarts, it was actually the protective glove he was wearing that caused Christian's broken finger

Most Celts fans had hoped Marcus S would've been signed & in the fold by now -- it hasn't happened, not a good sign -- it should've been 1st order of business


What's wrong with David Price?



9-6, 4.44 ERA -- w/a 10-game win streak, not to mention his own 10th win, on the line, guessing David will pitch well


He hasn't won 10 straight. He's 3-2 in his last 5. I watched the game a couple weeks ago and the Yanks lit him up. His last 3 starts have been rather underwhelming.

Also, I think win/loss record isn't as important as it used to be since they pull starters so early now. Ask Jacob DeGrom. Leads the league in E.R.A. and has only won 5 games!

[Edited on 7/13/2018 by Lee]


Stephen - 7/13/2018 at 02:53 PM

Sox have won 10 straight -- it was David's 10th win

even at this midway point, AL playoff field about set -- altho Seattle slowing down & A's catching up -- both Felix Hernandez, and Paxton, their other good pitcher ar on the DL (bad backs) -- read somewhere King Felix had to stand between innings in his last 2 starts -- Tribe will win Central div by default

MOOKIE BETTS, a grand slam after a 13-pitch AB -- Eduardo R has been awesome -- w/Devers on DL Nunez will go to 3B & Holt stay at 2nd, or vice versa

JBJ a big night last night, also one of his routine hilite-reel catches in Wed. game -- both he & Sandy are starting to hit -- Sandy looms large now w/Christian out

BOSTON RED SOX



[Edited on 7/13/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 7/13/2018 at 08:45 PM

Thought you meant Price had won 10 straight. He still has a lousy ERA. Not a bad third or fourth guy in the rotation though. Most teams would certainly take him.


Lee - 7/14/2018 at 11:55 AM

Going to the White Sox / Royals game tomorrow. This club has an offer. $12 for an all you can eat BBQ buffet. Shuttle to the game and an outfield ticket. Can't beat that.

This is the same place I saw the TTB two years ago. Small rock club.


oldcoot - 7/14/2018 at 02:43 PM

quote:
Going to the White Sox / Royals game tomorrow. This club has an offer. $12 for an all you can eat BBQ buffet. Shuttle to the game and an outfield ticket. Can't beat that.

This is the same place I saw the TTB two years ago. Small rock club.



It's nice that you also support minor league baseball.


porkchopbob - 7/14/2018 at 03:09 PM

Went to Marlins-Brewers last week. Great ball park in an odd part of the city. Just west of downtown, but in kind of a suburban area of the city. Miami is definitely a soccer town, the crowd (if you can call it that) was mostly us Brew Crew.


Lee - 7/14/2018 at 05:28 PM

quote:
quote:
Going to the White Sox / Royals game tomorrow. This club has an offer. $12 for an all you can eat BBQ buffet. Shuttle to the game and an outfield ticket. Can't beat that.

This is the same place I saw the TTB two years ago. Small rock club.



It's nice that you also support minor league baseball.


Hey, you can get tickets cheaper than a Minor League Game, believe it or not.


Lee - 7/17/2018 at 11:57 AM

Kyle Schwarber got screwed by the Harpers last night. Throwing pitches before the previous ball landed. Where were the officials? This is an outrage!

Couldn't care less other than the fact that I bet on Kyle to win.


Lee - 7/17/2018 at 08:26 PM

A.L. or N.L. tonight?


Lee - 7/19/2018 at 10:46 AM

Cubs best record in The National League!


Stephen - 7/19/2018 at 04:42 PM

THE HARTFORD YARD GOATS
had to look it up, & sure enough -- the pint-sized version of the mountain goats in Colorado -- gotta be the worst name ever, then it makes sense seeing what the 'parent' club is --
wonder when the Yard Goats play the Lake Monsters -- they're both AA

4-year deal for Marcus Smart -- it's about time

[Edited on 7/19/2018 by Stephen]


porkchopbob - 7/19/2018 at 04:54 PM

quote:
Cubs best record in The National League!


Brewers slipped a little before the break to Miami and Pittsburgh. Hopefully that changes and they can overtake the flubs.

Should be interesting to see if the Machado trade allows the Dodgers to separate themselves from the pack in the NL West.


Stephen - 7/19/2018 at 05:25 PM

w/2nd-tier pitching (Eduardo/Steven W./Drew P) injured, the pressure falls on the "big 3" now

he opted for early rehab this year, idea being to give the team 1 solid half-season of starts -- it begins tmrw for STEPHEN after 6 weeks off -- 6-6 so far in 13 carefully-monitored starts -- so far this year, 80 IP for Stephen -- in 3rd year of 7-year, $127M contract

as to his brother-in-agony, Clay is in minors rehabbing from his practice swing, "no timetable for return" after 38.2 risks (IPs), parceled out over 7 nerve-wracking starts

many peers going same route -- SF's MadBum 49 IP, Cueto 42 IP so far -- Noah Syndgard of Mets, 69 IP, JdGrom 123 IP tho, a record for him at 1/2way point

but they're all 'healthy' now & how will they hold up -- not very well & LET'S GO SOX, NY can be beat -- what's happened to Jacoby anyway -- surprised no one has picked up Hanley


porkchopbob - 7/19/2018 at 05:36 PM

quote:
but they're all 'healthy' now & how will they hold up -- not very well & LET'S GO SOX, NY can be beat -- what's happened to Jacoby anyway -- surprised no one has picked up Hanley


Yankees also had a dip before the break while the sox went on a tear. Hopefully the Yankees catch up. They've got the hitting, they just need to figure out what to do with Sonny Gray.


Lee - 7/19/2018 at 08:33 PM

I'll take Cleveland and the Cubs in The World Series, although anything can happen of course. Replay 2016. I am curious to see what trades might happen before the deadline. Yankees need another starter. Cubs pitching has question marks.

Maybe Philly sneaks in, who knows? And the Dodgers have certainly made a good turnaround after an awful start.

Should be a fun stretch run!


emr - 7/20/2018 at 02:16 AM

The Dodgers added Manny; yes. But recent history (and a family allegiance the the Giants that goes back 120 years) makes me feel that when push comes to shove they will f**k things up.


Stephen - 7/24/2018 at 07:22 PM

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Pirates gotta get going by pulling away from .500 starting tonite -- However, standing in the way is Clay

MadBum is back, Johnny Cueto & Brandon Belt are nearing returns -- they have Andrew McCutchen & Evan Longoria on a team w/Buster Posey, Hunter Pence
...& w/Pablo Sandoval backwhere he wants to be & playing well -- he looked positively like a speedster legging out an infield hit recently -- Ya The SF Baseball Giants are poised to take over anemic NL West


still think they will -- Longoria is almost ready to return (espn) -- that guy Panik is a good player, he'll be back at some point -- Giants Baseball Club will heat up
LIKE THE BUCS, holy heck -- every so often they really light it up -- that Dickerson kid, cranking

Clay returns tonite -- you know the bat won't come off his shoulder when he's at the plate -- hell even lifting it up there might strain an intercostal yadadada -- 5 IP Max 2nite

the kid threw a 7 IP no-hitter in his debut, after getting hit in the head on a line drive last year in the minors -- great story, altho the bigger, separate one is 'starting pitching' gradually being phased out (his team lost the game)

We Hustle On The Basepaths, Unlike NY's Sanchez -- yes Gary didn't want to get injured in the same fashion his batterymate, Tanaka, did last month -- that's the modern-day game of MLB baseball for ya, & let's go Sox -- Drew returns 2nite, same thing, 4-5 IP max

[Edited on 7/24/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 7/24/2018 at 09:59 PM

quote:
The Dodgers added Manny; yes. But recent history (and a family allegiance the the Giants that goes back 120 years) makes me feel that when push comes to shove they will f**k things up.


Won a few World Series in the last ten years.


Stephen - 7/24/2018 at 10:26 PM

The Dodgiz? Hadn't thought they'd won any -- thought that's who emr was referring to --
why can't they just say Sanchez was suspended?


emr - 7/25/2018 at 01:07 AM

I was. The Dogers and the Nats have seemingly turned into the Giants and Phillies of the 60's. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory


Stephen - 7/25/2018 at 02:36 AM

Credit must be given -- Mr. Tanaka, a complete game 3-hit shutout -- felt certain it was his 1st ever CG, it's his 3rd
Clay, watta guy -- went better than six IP of one-run ball -- Curious to know if he swung the bat
The Pirates have outscored their opponents 43-6 over their last 5 games, have won 11 straight & 13 of 14
It was 7-5 w/our last at bats coming up, let's go Sox -- Drew, so-so -- about what was expected

[Edited on 7/25/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 7/25/2018 at 01:17 PM

quote:
I was. The Dogers and the Nats have seemingly turned into the Giants and Phillies of the 60's. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory


Thought you meant the Giants obviously.


Stephen - 7/25/2018 at 02:54 PM

"Because Dale Murphy Never Juiced, Should He Be Rewarded For The Home Runs He Never Hit?"
current espn headline

????????????
there's a 1st time for everything obviously
read part of article -- yes, Dale, All American father & grandfather -- it was the lack of drugs that cost him all those HRs --

managed to get thru article -- it's an unabashed I Love Dale Murphy piece -- the writer feels Dale ought to be rewarded for not juicing, by being inducted into the HOF -- the HOF mention is very brief, 99% of it is Dale at home, doting dad & grandad

Let's Go Sox, if that has any place anymore in MLB

[Edited on 7/25/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 7/25/2018 at 06:38 PM

quote:
"Because Dale Murphy Never Juiced, Should He Be Rewarded For The Home Runs He Never Hit?"
current espn headline

????????????
there's a 1st time for everything obviously
read part of article -- yes, Dale, All American father & grandfather -- it was the lack of drugs that cost him all those HRs --

managed to get thru article -- it's an unabashed I Love Dale Murphy piece -- the writer feels Dale ought to be rewarded for not juicing, by being inducted into the HOF -- the HOF mention is very brief, 99% of it is Dale at home, doting dad & grandad

Let's Go Sox, if that has any place anymore in MLB

[Edited on 7/25/2018 by Stephen]


Dale Murphy? What does he have to do with anything? Never knew he played for The Sux.


Stephen - 7/25/2018 at 10:03 PM

I often post about teams besides the Sox -- because Murphy never took steroids, apparently, the article calls for him to be inducted into the HOF in Cooperstown -- the article was posted on ESPN, found it interesting if not a little lame -- take it easy man, you seem stressed nowadays -- Cubs are doing OK, not Tygiz tho

Sox picked up a new pitcher, Eovaldi -- let's go Sox

[Edited on 7/25/2018 by Stephen]


emr - 7/26/2018 at 01:07 AM

I understand the thought process re: Dale Murphy. Those who used 100pct seem to be closed out. People who had a cloak of suspicion such as Mike Piazza were delayed. Dale Murphy's numbers per se looked hall of fame quality for Al Kaline say


Lee - 7/26/2018 at 09:10 AM

quote:
I often post about teams besides the Sox -- because Murphy never took steroids, apparently, the article calls for him to be inducted into the HOF in Cooperstown -- the article was posted on ESPN, found it interesting if not a little lame -- take it easy man, you seem stressed nowadays -- Cubs are doing OK, not Tygiz tho

Sox picked up a new pitcher, Eovaldi -- let's go Sox

[Edited on 7/25/2018 by Stephen]



I didn't see a link to an article or a quote so I didn't understand what you meant. Just confused. I guess I am stressed doctor.


Lee - 7/26/2018 at 09:31 AM

Regarding Dale Murphy, I have long thought he should be in The HOF. 2,111 hits, 398 HRs. One of the few players to win two consecutive MVPs at the same position.

Look at Kirby Puckett. Same era. 2,304 hits. 207 HRs, .318 batting average. Not exactly earth shattering career totals, batting average notwithstanding. He's in.

From the same time, I think Mattingly should definitely be in.

I also have also thought for a long time that Trammell should be in. Morris somewhat too. Glad to be seeing them being inducted this weekend.

Have to respectfully disagree with the Kaline comparison. over 3,000 hits, just shy of 400 HRs (like Murphy). Youngest player to ever win a batting title. And not that it really matters but he never spent a day in the minor leagues.


emr - 7/26/2018 at 06:56 PM

I guess I agree re: Kaline. But I think the overall point is the use of PED have really swayed how we look at statistics. Nolan Ryan and Randy Johnson (never heard rumours about either) look even better if Roger Clemens' stats are discarded. 30 hr used to be a big deal (Kaline never hit more than 29) Yogi Berra only hit 358 homers, George Brett 317 and Roberto Clemente 240.

Yeah I think Murphy falls short of HOF. Puckett had WS magic and 10 years at the top of his game. Mattingly was one of the best players in the game, but like Ron Guidry his peak was too short.

We just don't know what stats for eras would like like without the juice.

Ive said here many times. Let everyone in and put the players from the PED era in a room with a display explaining the situation (I think the negro league players should have a similar display. Haven't been to Cooperstown since 1967 so I don't know how that's handled)

Bonds and Clemens would have made the hall without steroid; they were both that quality early on. Sammy Sosa wasn't before he turned into the Michelin man


Lee - 7/26/2018 at 07:48 PM

Interesting comments emr. Bonds and Clemens did enough before the juicing. I agree to put them in. I think Bonds won three MVPs before any of this came to light so he would have been in anyway. Clemens would have as well. But I've heard the other side of that coin, that just because they were good before doesn't mean they didn't cheat. I get that. Guess you could throw Pete Rose into the same kind of argument.

Some of these other guys I'm not sure about. Sosa and McGuire are good examples. I don't think they were that great. They just hit a lot of homers. Palmiero I think is a tweener. He is probably worth it I guess. But pointing your finger at the feds, lying about it and then getting busted can't look good.

Baseball has always been a game about stats and today even more so. I don't even know why they have some of these acronyms nowadays.

Regarding the Negro Leagues, I thought there is an exhibit dedicated to that time. Could be wrong I guess.


Stephen - 7/26/2018 at 09:12 PM

Like the different thread names -- was vaguely familiar with the Clev. Spiders -- but not the Indy Clowns -- enjoyed those photos -- there should for sure be a separate HOF section for the Negro League era (if there isn't already), or as you said an ongoing exhibit -- (the Dale Murphy quote & article is at espn.com/mlb
would have to look it up but Philly I think at one time had the Philadelphia Blue Jays (1940s?) -- the Yard Goats, that's my favorite one -- can there be a worse name for a bball team?

Not as sure about a separate HOF section for the accused -- Jose Canseco once stole 40 bases & had 40 HR -- he had a great career -- he, Palmiero, Rose, Dennis McLain, Shoeless Joe, Sosa, all the others named -- they all deserve enshrinement, transgressions or not (not Denny probly) -- & not Murphy for the reasons stated in the espn article -- as a reward for not using PED -- That Is Ludicrous!! he was a good player tho, a Frank Howard/Dave "King Kong" Kingman type

Stephen, Shut Down (it was a 7 year $175M deal, not $127M) -- Creative MLB Terminology 101 -- this time, Stephen's rocking a Cervical Nerve Impingement -- it's the same thing that shut down David Price last year -- that was a good one, "unspecified elbow ailment" -- both had/are having clubhouse difficulties, David w/the media last year, Stephen w/Scherzer now

can't keep track of all the trades -- let's go Sox -- don't see what is so great about Eovaldi, seems about in Drew P. territory I guess

[Edited on 7/26/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 7/26/2018 at 09:22 PM

Not positive but I think Satchell Paige played for the Indy Clowns.

And Denny McClain only belongs in prison. And this coming from a Tiggers fan.

Sadly, his daughter died in a car accident years ago in Michigan. Not far from where I grew up.


Lee - 7/26/2018 at 09:24 PM

Yankees just got J.A Happ. Guess Toronto threw in the towel.


Lee - 7/27/2018 at 11:09 AM

quote:
Like the different thread names -- was vaguely familiar with the Clev. Spiders -- but not the Indy Clowns -- enjoyed those photos -- there should for sure be a separate HOF section for the Negro League era (if there isn't already), or as you said an ongoing exhibit -- (the Dale Murphy quote & article is at espn.com/mlb
would have to look it up but Philly I think at one time had the Philadelphia Blue Jays (1940s?) -- the Yard Goats, that's my favorite one -- can there be a worse name for a bball team?



I had never heard of the Yard Goats. Figured they were an independent league team. Was surprised to learn they are a double A team.

Minor leagues are fun. Lots of goofy things there including the names.

Several years ago when I was in grad school at Michigan State, there was a single A team in Lansing, just down the street from the capital. They were in the Cubs organization. Their name was the Lansing Lugnuts. There was some poll (maybe ESPN) and they won for having the best name. I think it's cute but didn't find it THAT funny.

They have two mascots: Big Lug, a large macho male and Ratchet, a demure female. Ratchet always took down Big Lug. It was kind of funny.


Stephen - 7/27/2018 at 02:53 PM

Too funny -- they're the LBS 49ers, and their baseball team has its own name, the Dirtbags!?!?! Yard Goats now 2nd place

Players from Jered Weaver to Evan Longoria, wlkpdia said, have been/donned the uniform of, Dirtbags -- great one -- also, wlkpddia mentioned "pitcher Dick Nen," he was actually an INF w/Wash Sens --they probly meant Robb Nen

Would think they'd be fair game for the leather lungs at road games -- "ah ya buncha no-good low-life Dirtbags, Get Outta Here!"......

Lug Nuts, a good one too -- around here there's the Lake Monsters -- the NH Fisher Cats (I Think Tor BJays' AA team) -- I believe it's the Lowell River Rats in Mass. -- but the Dirtbags, that's too funny

[Edited on 7/27/2018 by Stephen]


leafsfan - 7/27/2018 at 04:15 PM

quote:
Yankees just got J.A Happ. Guess Toronto threw in the towel.



Didn't even have a towel in the race. Jays are a disaster this year. Prospects coming but one or two 5 stars won;t change much.


Lee - 7/27/2018 at 07:03 PM

quote:
Too funny -- they're the LBS 49ers, and their baseball team has its own name, the Dirtbags!?!?!




The T shirt I purchased from the university says so. They had no problem taking my money. Nickname maybe?

Probably a story behind it I imagine.


Stephen - 7/31/2018 at 04:43 PM

would love to have been at Seattle-Houston last nite -- 9 clean innings of errorless baseball w/just 5 pitchers handcuffing hitters/baffling batters in a big game that took just 2:19 -- don't see enough of these games

for the 1st time ever, diminutive-dynamo MVP & top player today, Jose Altuve to DL -- they'll feel that obviously, but they've also done well w/out C. Correa -- if Seattle wins next 2, & there's a good chance of it, even w/no King Felix -- it's a new race -- Oakland still right there

Felix has, however, been hammered his last 2-3 starts & now might become spot starter w/ Erasmus (?) R, returning from rehab, their espn website says

We Have To Maintain The 5-6 Games On Them Going Into Wknd -- numerous new players for both teams -- Hanley you aren't forgotten -- Dustin, maybe/mayb not this year

BOSTON RED SOX


Stephen - 8/2/2018 at 05:11 PM

Sox Yankees, it's never not-huge -- Rick-Luis Severino tmrw nite, David-Masahiro Tanaka Sun nite -- goin the way he was, Chris should have an inflamed shoulder more often

there are other huge games too, M's need Felix to pitch like a king tonite, they lost twice to Altuve-less 'stros -- word, his spot in the rotation in the balance -- ERA 5.60

Comebacking aces MadBum (3-4) and Clayton K (4-5) pitching against Zack Grienke (12-5) and J.Chacin (10-3)

Again, it's all in background -- hated Brawnx Bombiz at Fenway on a midsummer weekend -- SAWX -- watta chance to pull away going into the dog days of Aug., doubt it'll happen tho


[Edited on 8/2/2018 by Stephen]


emr - 8/2/2018 at 08:58 PM

One would have made a lot of money betting that kale and mad bum combined would have under 10 wins

With cueto toast my giants are done. Venus and mars need to align if every game u play has a score of 5-4 and you have no big bopper


Lee - 8/2/2018 at 10:19 PM

quote:
One would have made a lot of money betting that kale and mad bum combined would have under 10 wins

With cueto toast my giants are done. Venus and mars need to align if every game u play has a score of 5-4 and you have no big bopper



I put in some prop bets before the season started. One was that Cuerto would win at least 13 games. Was holding out hope all season. Obviously that's not happening.

Giants should trade McCutchen. Who cares if he doesn't clear waivers?


Stephen - 8/2/2018 at 11:56 PM

NEW YORK -- New York Mets left-hander Steven Matz was diagnosed with a mild flexor pronator strain in his left forearm on Thursday and could be placed on the disabled list.

Matz didn't get out of the first inning of his most recent start. He allowed seven runs on eight hits in what became a 25-4 loss at Washington on Tuesday, the most lopsided defeat in Mets history.

Matz complained of tightness in his left forearm after the game. An MRI on Thursday showed mild inflammation but did not reveal any structural damage.
______________________________________________________________________
HE STUNK THE JOINT OUT -- "complained of tightness" afterward, what Horseshit
My gosh, these fellas are such wimps -- :brokenrecord,Iknow:

[Edited on 8/2/2018 by Stephen]


Stephen - 8/3/2018 at 02:41 PM

quote:
quote:
One would have made a lot of money betting that kale and mad bum combined would have under 10 wins

With cueto toast my giants are done. Venus and mars need to align if every game u play has a score of 5-4 and you have no big bopper



I put in some prop bets before the season started. One was that Cuerto would win at least 13 games. Was holding out hope all season. Obviously that's not happening.

Giants should trade McCutchen. Who cares if he doesn't clear waivers?


Yes, w/Pablo now out too, row a little longer to hoe for Giants -- but they won 8-1 last nite --

forget Machado, LA holdovers Cody Bellinger & Yasiel Puig did as much damage as anybody (21-5) in their game

Steve Pearce, unbelievable -- his 3 last nite gives 8 for season, 28 RBI w/.316 BA -- thought Brandon Phillips would be a presence too, he's still in Pawtucket

it won't be anything like that tonite (22 total runs) -- 6 runs total, max -- good one, Rick (13-4) vs. Severino (14-4) -- glad they took CC out early last nite (3 IP) -- Mookie reached base all 6 ABs -- Xander (wrist) is listed as day to day -- SAWX



[Edited on 8/3/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 8/3/2018 at 07:51 PM

Hard to pick against L.A. in the N.L.

And I think the Yanks need to take the next three this weekend. Still two months to go of course but if they don't take at least two of the next three they might already be in trouble.


Stephen - 8/4/2018 at 02:39 PM

We won't continue at this rate over the final 2 mos -- Sawx could hit a rough patch, it just doesn't seem like that the way we're goin right now -- but if so, ideally it will be as the walking wounded gradually return --

Rick, Watta Guy -- 0 BB, 9 K's -- ZERO LOB For NY, in the books in just 2:15 -- a masterpiece -- Verlander also had a great game (14 K's), surprised he didn't finish his

it happens often -- a new kid comes outta nowhere to pitch a gem in his debut, like the kid in the NL a few weeks ago -- it's Sawx tho, so chancey proposition for their kid 2day

Steve Pearce Is A Yankee Killer -- David Price Is A Yankee Killee -- no betr time than tmrw nite for David to make like Steve

WATTA TEAM -- Xander, Mookie, Benintendi -- jumpstarting an immense machine -- Sandy has no backup now tho -- again the baseball gods can frown as well as smile


[Edited on 8/4/2018 by Stephen]


Stephen - 8/6/2018 at 02:45 PM

We're overdue for a frown -- they didn't have Judge or G Sanchez -- the kid made a decent-enough play bottom 9th, just shorthopped the throw from deep 3B, gifting it to xtra innings -- also, JBJ's headsup baserunning made it happen too, he was in full-motor mode from 2B the minute the ball was hit -- the ball only bounced a few feet away from the NY 1st baseman when it shorthopped, but Jackie had it beat & Tie Game Baby, Ya
Xander has same thing Judge has, wrist/HBP

Sawx are 1st in MLB in team BA W/runners in scoring position -- .285

One wonders -- did Hanley's release jigger the lineup & somehow open up more options -- also, would Hanley be doing what Steve Pearce is doing -- it's no 2 ways, we've gone crazy ever since

two of game's biggest stars, Chris Sale & Jose Altuve, will miss more time than originally thought


[Edited on 8/6/2018 by Stephen]


Stephen - 8/6/2018 at 03:28 PM

quote:

Also, I think win/loss record isn't as important as it used to be since they pull starters so early now. Ask Jacob DeGrom. Leads the league in E.R.A. and has only won 5 games!

[Edited on 7/13/2018 by Lee]


Yep, 3 weeks later, same thing -- has won 5 games, & has a 1.85 ERA -- if not for Max Scherzer he'd be in contention for the CY IMO -- while possibly having won 10 or less games -- it's comparable to Lefty's 1972 season w/Phils

THE PHIRST-PLACE PHILLIES -- what a turnaround, now a battle of 1st-placers w/AZ -- the other 1st-placer, LAD, visits Oakland in a top-flight interleaguer -- A's have simply gone off, them & us 2 hottest since All Star break

Let's go Sox -- hopefully that knee thing isn't too serious for Altuve, the game needs honest gritty players like him -- & like Dustin (5-9) -- both having knee problems

OUTTA CONTROL, that's the 2018 Sox, keep it goin boys -- Chris & Eduardo back in 2 weeks or so


Lee - 8/7/2018 at 12:10 PM

Boy this is sad. How much money does the guy need?

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-former-mlb-pitcher-esteban-loaiza-expected- plead-guilty-felony-drug-case-044003571.html


emr - 8/7/2018 at 12:53 PM

In 1987 Nolan Ryan went 8-16 with a 2.76 era and 270 striekouts in 212 innings. He finished 5th in the Cy Young voting


Stephen - 8/7/2018 at 04:48 PM

Sure envy Bay Area bball fans -- Houston at SF this afternoon, MadBum (4-4) vs. former Cy winner Dallas Keuchel (9-9) -- let's go Giants, they can play thru their injuries

& the Dodgiz across the bay tonight -- A's don't draw that well for some reason, would be surprised tho if that was the case for this series -- winning it would show once & for all Oak is for real -- Seattle falling behind & King Felix Must pitch effectively vs. last-place Tex tonite, even w/Bartolo, 45, as his opposite number

never knew Nolan had that kind of year, Wow -- he shoulda been top dog, or top 3 at least
when he pitched for the Tribe late 1960s, Luis Tiant had a similar year -- lost 20 games w/a sub- 2.00 ERA, IIRC
deGrom pitches high noon tmrw vs. Reds -- ya here comes 7 IP, 3 hits, 1 run, 1 BB, 9K -- & Mets lose 4-2

yes, outta control to this point in the season -- keep it goin Sox, Watta Treat

[Edited on 8/7/2018 by Stephen]


emr - 8/7/2018 at 05:03 PM

You are mixing up two year for El Tiante! He was 21-9 with the 1.60 ERA in 1968 - didn't get a vote (despite higher WAR) for Cy Young cause that waas the year Denny McLain won 30 and was a unanimus winner.

Still have fond memories of him pitching for the Red Sox and celebrating with a cigar aafterwards in the Jacuzzi


Lee - 8/9/2018 at 11:11 AM

Nice story. This former groundskeeper from the White Sox spent 23 years in prison for a crime he didn't commit. Jerry Reinsdorf presented him with a 2005 World Series ring. I think he wasn't able to watch The World Series. Think Jack Nickolson in Cuckoo's Nest.


Lee - 8/11/2018 at 12:00 PM

If you are a die hard baseball fan, come to Chicago today. Cubs play a day game. After that, walk to the El train and get off at Comiskey and catch The Sux for their night game.

At least at Comiskey you can afford to be there.

[Edited on 8/11/2018 by Lee]


Stephen - 8/13/2018 at 02:29 PM

Two of the greats, Barry Bonds & Jack Morris, honored ystrdy in SF & Det
"VOTE THE GUY IN!" -- It came from Willie Mays himself, Barry's godfather -- Morris was inducted into the HOF earlier this month
Jim Leyland was Unequivocal about Bonds ystrdy in SF -- "without question the best I ever managed -- we should feel lucky that we got to watch him play"


Stephen - 8/13/2018 at 03:08 PM

quote:
I'll take Cleveland and the Cubs in The World Series, although anything can happen of course. Replay 2016. I am curious to see what trades might happen before the deadline. Yankees need another starter. Cubs pitching has question marks.

Maybe Philly sneaks in, who knows? And the Dodgers have certainly made a good turnaround after an awful start.

Should be a fun stretch run!


Yes it should -- we see Philly this week -- it's SF at Chavez Ravine, when is that not-huge -- series du jour is Oakland-Seattle after M's swept Altuve-less 'stros
But yes, a lot did happen b4 the deadline -- a possible Tribe-Cubs WS seems unlikely as of right now but as you said, anything can happen

but holy **** -- 50 games over .500? -- almost no sense to it really & couldn't've been forseen but no complaints & let's go Sox -- has there ever been a more valuable .215 hitter than JBJ?, NO -- there's a different guy coming up big every time


Stephen - 8/13/2018 at 03:20 PM

quote:
You are mixing up two year for El Tiante! He was 21-9 with the 1.60 ERA in 1968 - didn't get a vote (despite higher WAR) for Cy Young cause that waas the year Denny McLain won 30 and was a unanimus winner.

Still have fond memories of him pitching for the Red Sox and celebrating with a cigar aafterwards in the Jacuzzi


Ya that's right, thx -- he set the record back then for strikeouts in consecutive games (32), which I think sorta threw me (not to mention a foggy brain ), but that indeed was in 1968 -- 9-20, 3.71 ERA the next year (1969)

his 2 greatest games bookended his career -- in his July 1964 MLB debut silenced WS champion NYY on 4 singles to shut out Whitey Ford & Co 3-0

then Oct. 1 1978 & his 2-hitter over Tor that kept our playoff hopes alive in his last game w/Sox
Luis went 21-17 over next 2 years w/NY before finishing w/Pirates

along the way his 5-hitter 9/16/65 at Fenway


Lee - 8/14/2018 at 09:51 PM

Looking forward to the pennant races this year. Even with the extra wild card teams there are a few that can conceivably win 90+ and not get in.

Interesting.

And the Yanks could play the "real" first round against Boston. That would be fun. Team that has the record for most wins in a season (Seattle) didn't go too far.


Stephen - 8/15/2018 at 02:58 PM

It's still early, the AL West could become a 3-way horserace down the stretch, although no Paxton for Seattle for awhile -- that liner stung, no doubt about it -- should be mad-race for WC & div title

same NL West, any of those 4 teams could win div -- still like SF's chances

Let's go Sox, watta team, HOLY **** ARE WE KILLIN IT OR WHAT -- Rick, 15th win last nite -- batterymate Sandy coming up big -- Brock pinch-hit HR, unbelievable


Lee - 8/15/2018 at 09:12 PM

quote:


Let's go Sox, watta team, HOLY **** ARE WE KILLIN IT OR WHAT -- Rick, 15th win last nite -- batterymate Sandy coming up big -- Brock pinch-hit HR, unbelievable




Well... they did beat the Tigers today but they are still only Kansas City away from last place.


fensranger - 8/16/2018 at 01:13 PM

nice to live in boston and be a fan these days. Their teams are contending for championships in all 4 major sports at the same time. doesn't get much better for sports fans. Unfortunately, i live in NY


Sang - 8/16/2018 at 05:02 PM

Nice to see the Cardinals showing some life.................


Stephen - 8/16/2018 at 05:09 PM

Sawx got all the love at the moment (I don't live in Boston either btw ) -- I mean JD Martinez has become almost as big a monster this year as the Green Monster -- & Andrew Benintendi, a versatile, speedy slugger -- didn't at 1st think he'd become the player he is, another Jacoby Ellsbury in his prime -- people like Kinsler, Swihart, Christian V, Wright waiting to return.......

also, Houston visits Oakland this wknd -- sometimes Oak's stadium capacity is listed at 35,000, but it was more for the Dodgers series -- maybe they open their upper deck or something (last of the "cookie cutter" stadiums?) -- but that's a good race too -- no new word on Altuve, Seattle right there, Felix back in rotation etc etc

StL doing what I was hoping Pirates would be -- Cubs visit Bucs this wknd, Bucs need a sweep to stay in it -- Cards-Milwaukee this wknd, crucial -- suddenly Braves are hot & gaining space on Phils etc etc

MEANWHILE, WE SMOKE -- TB will try that goofball pitching approach (starter goes 1-2 innings), it won't work -- we're all the sh!t this year, let's go Sox

[Edited on 8/16/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 8/16/2018 at 05:33 PM

Stanton has certainly turned his season around. I wonder if the Yankee fans are still complaining about them signing him?


Stephen - 8/20/2018 at 04:56 PM

quote:
I'll take Cleveland and the Cubs in The World Series, although anything can happen of course. Replay 2016.


They're both 71-52 -- make no mistake it's an autumn atmosphere this week, esp tonite w/15-game winners Rick & Kluber --
we haven't hit a rough patch in a long time -- to show how hot we've been, Mookie has gone hitless his last 2 games -- his longest cold stretch of the season

but yes, Cubs in 1st place in NL -- Bucs Are 5 1/2 out In WC w/Atlnta visiting -- heat is on Braves too, they're L4 -- Sawx, Tribe, NY, Oak & Houstn is how it looks rite now in AL --

it's no secret tho, if Felix pitches like Felix & they win-solid tonite, it could ignite a sweep over Houstn putting Seattle right back in it while all eyes are on Fenway

Machado & LAD so-so so far -- my pick SF, wellll, mayb next yr -- CLAY -- a 5-hitter -- his 1st CG since 2015 -- so, w/Grienke, Godley etc, now it's hard to bet against Clay Buchholz, Paul Goldschmidt & ARIZONA in NL West -- Colo is right there

[Edited on 8/20/2018 by Stephen]


porkchopbob - 8/20/2018 at 05:06 PM

quote:
Stanton has certainly turned his season around. I wonder if the Yankee fans are still complaining about them signing him?


I haven't heard any Yanks fans questioning Stanton since May, and even then it was because Castro had a lot of fans. With Judge out (and Sanchez disappearing), they've certainly need his bat. They are still having an amazing season, well ahead in the WC, if it weren't for Boston having a crazy good season.

quote:
but yes, Cubs in 1st place in NL -- Bucs Are 5 1/2 out In WC w/Atlnta visiting


Brewers are still in 2nd place with the pesky Cards on their heals. Crew needs to finish strong if they don't retake 1st place since everyone is pretty close.


Lee - 8/21/2018 at 09:10 PM

Cubs get Danial Murphy. Interesting. Not sure exactly why but I suppose it is because Kris Bryant is hurt and they can mover the infield around.


Stephen - 8/21/2018 at 11:19 PM

They've shut down Yu Darvish too -- thought Wash had shut down Stephen too, he's back tmrw nite tho, even tho it's likely too late to make any diff

How special was that though -- Oakland's Khris Bryant had a Make A Wish kid sign his jersey, then belted a home run for the kid
In front of all of 9,000 fans -- shame on A's fans, that's one of the top teams in MLB -- they only come on weekends

The Boston Beaneaters, yaman
That's sure a whole lot better than the WooSox -- it should be BooSox
PawSox will mark their 50th anniversary in Pawtucket in 2020, by bidding adieu to move to Worcester in 2021
Brand new stadium, better access etc etc -- it's progress I guess

[Edited on 8/22/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 8/22/2018 at 11:34 AM

The Nats are a mess. Yet they have hung onto Harper when he is a free agent after the season. Don't get that at all.


porkchopbob - 8/22/2018 at 03:20 PM

Cards are surging, just passed the Crew. Brewers better wake up.

I was at the Yanks-Marlins game last night. Nice win for the Yanks in extra innings, but injury bug seems to be hovering - Judge, Gregorious, and now possibly Chapman.


Stephen - 8/22/2018 at 06:05 PM

bases full, 1 out in the 11th
then bases full 0 out for Miami in 12th -- NY escaped both times -- credit to them, they've played well w/out Judge & Sanchez -- our 2 series next month w/them will be pivotal, obviously

we gotta get a split -- bats have been quiet -- Tribe is for real, we knew that
still too soon to count Bucs, SF or Wash out of the WC -- still wanna see a Stepheno-hitter this season -- 6-7 IP, 0 hits -- mayb 2nite -- also 2nite, Clay goes up against Odrisamer

Let's Go Sox

[Edited on 8/22/2018 by Stephen]


porkchopbob - 8/22/2018 at 06:18 PM

quote:
bases full, 1 out in the 11th
then bases full 0 out for Miami in 12th -- NY escaped both times -- credit to them, they've played well w/out Judge & Sanchez -- our 2 series next month w/them will be pivotal, obviously


Yanks have definitely missed Judge and Sanchez's bat, but they're better off with Romine behind the plate.


Lee - 8/22/2018 at 07:09 PM

quote:
bases full, 1 out in the 11th
then bases full 0 out for Miami in 12th -- NY escaped both times -- credit to them, they've played well w/out Judge & Sanchez -- our 2 series next month w/them will be pivotal, obviously





I dunno. Can't see Bawston blowing their lead.


Stephen - 8/24/2018 at 03:10 PM

The schedule is favorable, true -- at 90 wins we're tied w/1912 team for most wins thru 129 games, paper said
Carson Continues To Convalesce -- going into 2019, will have pitched a total of 23.2 innings since arriving in 2015 -- how many 'procedures' can 1 arm take anyway
TYLER -- since his return, 17.1 meticulously if-not medically parceled-out IP over 19 carefully-monitored appearances -- 18 hits, 8 ER, 4.15 ERA

on the field, series du jour, StL & Colo are both WCs right now -- key interleaguer, Seattle visits AZ -- Clay 7-2, 2.25 -- he's had these streaks b4, but then invariably, The Strain -- oft-injured, injury-prone, they all are yadada -- he & the G's, a combined 32-16

Dustin's status is open to debate, the thinking being if his knee hasn't healed up enough by now..........He'll Show Up 2019 Spring Training If Not B4, So Let's Go SAWX

[Edited on 8/24/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 8/24/2018 at 04:46 PM

Michael Kopech's tweets of the White Sux from when he was in high school years ago were revealed. Same day as his first start. Interesting timing from someone. Curious to see what the media does with this.

Guess anyone can spin this anyway they want to.


Stephen - 8/24/2018 at 10:05 PM

It might come back to haunt him -- he'll probably go in for sensitivity training, even those these tweets were from long ago
What I'd like to know is, why did it take Sox owner John Henry 15 years to become "haunted" by the supposedly-racist legacy of Tom Yawkey -- have lost quite a bit for John Henry

Chris Bosio won't pursue, by the look of it, his wrongful-termination lawsuit against Det. -- he wouldn't have a chance, not when a racial slur was alleged, whether he was in the right or not

The guy who hurt himself last year at ChiSox' stadium, then sued ChiSox saying they were at fault for the injury, has his lawyers together and is pressing charges --
this happened Wed. night with Mitch Moreland at Fenway -- will Mitch sue? You wouldn't think so, but the BoSox have dragged Tom Yawkey's name through the mud too -- the man who owned & loved the Red Sox for some 40 years -- so you never know -- Mitch might wait to see how the ChiSox case is decided

Finally the Gwynn family's lawsuit against the company that made the chew Tony was partial to as he belted the ball for a career .338 average, is set for Sept. 2019

LOOK OUT, NY has a new kid, Voit -- let's go Sawx

[Edited on 8/25/2018 by Stephen]


Stephen - 8/30/2018 at 04:51 PM

They've won 11 of 15 & have pulled into a tie w/Tygz as we visit the south side of Chicago this wknd

The #s don't lie -- Abreu (doubles) -- Anderson (SB) -- & yes, .220 BA & all, Yoan (triples) …. all among league leaders

a supposed 'think tank' of baseball geeks, using analytics, sabermetrics etc, did a statistical/computer study a year or 2 ago -- Result it came up with, CHISOX had more good incoming talent than most anybody, in projecting 2019 as a year "they could contend for the pennant" -- a kid named Rutherford was mentioned -- another kid, Jiminez, has torn up Triple A apparently -- Kopech, the reason they traded Sale to us, is the talk of the league

As to Chris, "no timetable on return", get back quick big guy -- David has been on fire the whole 2nd half, let him not be out long -- Eduardo Returns Saturday -- Rick, a horse

NY has played well w/out DidiG as well as Judge & Sanchez -- Houston is going crazy w/Altuve back -- same LAD, suddenly they're W5 going into their own huge wknd series w/AZ -- Oak #1 starter Manea is out -- Seattle fading fast -- so forth so on, the magic of Sept. bball


Stephen - 8/30/2018 at 05:00 PM

The Kid, The Splendid Splinter
he called the press corps "the knights of the keyboard"
.388 BA at age 40 in 1958

Ted Williams, Aug. 30 1918-July 5 2002

would be among career top 3 in HR, RBI & hits but for military service -- he & Bob Feller would still be top 3s had they played their whole careers


porkchopbob - 8/30/2018 at 05:09 PM

Yelich hits for the cycle, and Brewers are trailing in 3rd place. Killing me. Cards are always a thorn in their side.


Lee - 8/30/2018 at 05:30 PM

Tiggers are about ready to make their move!


Lee - 8/30/2018 at 05:34 PM

Think I saw the O's have officially been eliminated from playoff contention.

Not that it should surprise anyone. What a mess. I feel bad for Showalter.


[Edited on 8/30/2018 by Lee]


Stephen - 8/31/2018 at 02:46 PM

Like the names -- the Lehigh Valley Ironpigs , another good one -- there's the Roswell Invaders of the Pecos League -- also the Las Vegas 51s in the PCL -- from Section 51 from the UFO days -- nothing tops the Dirtbags tho -- Yard Goats still 2nd pl

but it's TB-Tribe, -- their new-age pitching approach rotation has panned out, Tampa has played their way into contention, unblievbl --

Seattle-Oakland, Seattle has had a brutal schedule (Houstn, Oaklnd, LAD, Houstn, AZ, then San Diego for 2 games leading into their current series, nasty)
-- Oak's pitching is dinged up tho -- this marquee matchup only drew 10G last nite -- a crucial series for M's

Andrew McC now goes to NY -- meantime we're in hostile windy environment where Chris made his mark (altho only 18G there last nite) --

David will miss next start -- Steven W, who knows, but the same surgeon last year did the knee operations both on he and Dustin -- & both haven't played this year

We Have To At Least Split W/Surging ChiSox & Hold The Fort Until Chris & David Get Back -- we start Sept w/2 tough series against div leaders Atlnta & Houstn
We're Tops This Year, let's go Sox


[Edited on 8/31/2018 by Stephen]


porkchopbob - 8/31/2018 at 03:15 PM

quote:
Think I saw the O's have officially been eliminated from playoff contention.

Not that it should surprise anyone. What a mess. I feel bad for Showalter.


Every team has to bottom out and clean house every few years it seems. Speaking of, the Royals are also officially eliminated.


Lee - 8/31/2018 at 04:02 PM

quote:
Like the names -- the Lehigh Valley Ironpigs , another good one -- there's the Roswell Invaders of the Pecos League -- also the Las Vegas 51s in the PCL -- from Section 51 from the UFO days -- nothing tops the Dirtbags tho -- Yard Goats still 2nd pl

but it's TB-Tribe, -- their new-age pitching approach rotation has panned out, Tampa has played their way into contention, unblievbl --

Seattle-Oakland, Seattle has had a brutal schedule (Houstn, Oaklnd, LAD, Houstn, AZ, then San Diego for 2 games leading into their current series, nasty)
-- Oak's pitching is dinged up tho -- this marquee matchup only drew 10G last nite -- a crucial series for M's

Andrew McC now goes to NY -- meantime we're in hostile windy environment where Chris made his mark (altho only 18G there last nite) --

David will miss next start -- Steven W, who knows, but the same surgeon last year did the knee operations both on he and Dustin -- & both haven't played this year

We Have To At Least Split W/Surging ChiSox & Hold The Fort Until Chris & David Get Back -- we start Sept w/2 tough series against div leaders Atlnta & Houstn
We're Tops This Year, let's go Sox


[Edited on 8/31/2018 by Stephen]


Yeah some of those minor league names are really funny. I know a lot of them but some are quite out there.

Regarding your Sawx, I don't think you have anything to worry about. Yanks had a slight chance when they got to within six but I think they just have to settle for having a great record and only making the wildcard.


porkchopbob - 8/31/2018 at 04:43 PM

quote:
Regarding your Sawx, I don't think you have anything to worry about. Yanks had a slight chance when they got to within six but I think they just have to settle for having a great record and only making the wildcard.


It's bizarre the season the Yanks are having even though it doesn't feel like victory to have to settle for the WC.

If you're ever looking for cool old obscure throwbacks, check out Ebbets Field sports apparel: https://www.ebbets.com/

Some really cool old minor league reproductions






DanB - 9/1/2018 at 01:26 PM

on the CCU title
we played a showcase tournament there and the stadium is better than most minor league places


Stephen - 9/1/2018 at 01:45 PM

The Pawtucket Clam Eaters
if right is right, they'll wear their vintage Clam Eaters uniforms in 2020, their last year in Pawtucket -- too bomb, as is that website
the Decatur Commies? -- 1950 was the McCarthy era/height of anti-communist fervor, & commies were considered The Enemy -- didn't think the Dirtbags would have any competition, but they do
"ya commie bastids, go back to Russia!" -- Commies might've heard that plenty -- even in Decatur


Lee - 9/1/2018 at 09:21 PM

McCarthy's Cincinnati Redlegs anyone?


Stephen - 9/4/2018 at 04:24 PM

drawing a blank -- don't think Joe McCarthy managed the Redlegs, that's a stab in the dark tho -- same Dowdy Finklen Stadium -- I like that bettah than all the corporately-sponsored names nowadays, as nice as the stadiums indeed are

slight change in topic -- Vinegar Bend Mizell?
Cards fans well remembr the LHP's Sept 1 1958 gem -- hailed from Vinegar Bend, ALA
Vinegar Bend -- hadn't heard of him before -- he was full of piss & vinegar on that day, establishing an NL record by walking nine batters without giving up a run.



[Edited on 9/4/2018 by Stephen]


Stephen - 9/5/2018 at 03:08 PM

The things you learn -- Vinegar Bend was 13-5 on the 1960 world champion Pirates -- shocked I never heard of this guy -- 90-88 in career, then moved to NC where he became a congressman

Corey Kluber has a very good chance at 20 wins, he has KC 2nite for # 18 -- Severino also tries for 18th 2nite but Oak is a different kettle of fish -- the Kansas City Athletics they aren't , altho Royales 8-2 L10

it's deja vu all over again -- like 1978, 1 of the top 2 teams will go home early -- they're missing Judge, Chapman & Gregorius -- it'sa bad Sale Price right now for us (they're expected back shortly)

Astros won WS & are right there as we get ready for them this wknd -- gritty veteran Verlander goes 2nite, he hasn't had a good 2nd half -- same Felix, & Seattle looking unlikely for postseason -- they won 18 of 23 earlier this season, TB set to overtake them now -- in July Tampa was 15 games behind M's

BOSTON RED SOX


[Edited on 9/5/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 9/5/2018 at 09:11 PM

quote:
drawing a blank -- don't think Joe McCarthy managed the Redlegs, that's a stab in the dark tho -- same Dowdy Finklen Stadium -- I like that bettah than all the corporately-sponsored names nowadays, as nice as the stadiums indeed are

slight change in topic -- Vinegar Bend Mizell?
Cards fans well remembr the LHP's Sept 1 1958 gem -- hailed from Vinegar Bend, ALA
Vinegar Bend -- hadn't heard of him before -- he was full of piss & vinegar on that day, establishing an NL record by walking nine batters without giving up a run.



[Edited on 9/4/2018 by Stephen]


Ha Ha! You misunderstood. Not Joe, the Yankee Manager, I meant Joseph McCarthy who was a senator in the 50s who tried to convince the world that everyone was a Communist. Since the color red was associated with Communism, Cincinnati changed their name from the Red to the Redlegs for a few years. That's what I meant.


porkchopbob - 9/5/2018 at 10:16 PM

quote:
the Decatur Commies? -- 1950 was the McCarthy era/height of anti-communist fervor, & commies were considered The Enemy -- didn't think the Dirtbags would have any competition, but they do
"ya commie bastids, go back to Russia!" -- Commies might've heard that plenty -- even in Decatur


It's weird how times change, and reminds you how old baseball is. The Decatur Commodores were founded in 1900, before any "Red" communist scares in the decades later, so "Commie" wasn't any more strange than "Bridegrooms" or "Red Leg". The Decatur Commodores briefly shared a stadium with the town's football team, the Decatur Staleys, who eventually moved to Chicago and changed their name to "Bears".


Stephen - 9/6/2018 at 02:45 AM

What shock -- highly touted Ohtani shows up, immediately hurts his arm as only MLB pitchers do, & now, with all of 51 IP under his belt -- to undergo Tommy John surgery -- (then he goes & hits a HR) -- they all opt for it, even pitching 6 innings or so every 4-5 days, & Even That Is Becoming Considered Too Much & Gradually Phased Out -- it's a huge change in bball

Clay is on a tear -- 2 runs over last 17 innings -- came out aftr the 5th inning his last start -- they followed that using 6 relievers over the final 4 innings -- the strategic benefit of that approach eludes me but they wouldn't be doing it etc etc etc

pitch counts are the most injurious thing to ever happen to pitchers -- the record proves it

The LF never moved a muscle, OMGosh what a laser rip that was -- by hometown (anti)-hero Brandon Phillips, capping mad Sox rally


[Edited on 9/6/2018 by Stephen]


Stephen - 9/6/2018 at 05:25 PM

catchers Christian Vasquez back for us, Sanchez for them, key -- huge series', Houston, & they're in Seattle -- David Starts Tmrw Nite -- still no word on Chris -- no McCullers no sweat for them, he's oft-injured anyway & out frequently -- they're right on NY's heels

playoffs have begun for Bucs, SF & Wash -- still mathematically alive but it's must-win time -- Bucs have Miami this wknd, that's favorable -- Stephen makes an appearance 2nite vs. league-leading Cubs, yep 6 IP of polished professional pitching in store -- & Cubs win late

wattabout that rally -- the team is deep & well balanced -- Dave Dombrowski has done a great job with the budget he's had to work with -- (read, blank check ) -- howaboutitBOSOX

[Edited on 9/6/2018 by Stephen]


Stephen - 9/7/2018 at 03:45 PM

it'd be cool to see the 1968 WS acknowledged this wknd w/StL in Detroit -- 31 game winner McLain vs. glowering Bob Gibson of the 1.12 ERA -- still probly the greatest most-anticipated ever

Mookie & JD, tied at .335 -- David & Gerritt Cole a combined 27-11 going into 2nite -- Tanaka & Paxton a combined 21-10

Snell of TB gets 18th win 2nite, Carrasco likely # 17 & that Tribe pitching -- Michael Brantley has finally played a full season
smug, holier-than-thou, know-nothing SCHMUCKS can take away Chief Wahoo but he lives on in the real fans -- his drum is the heartbeat of the Tribe -- team & fans


Stephen - 9/7/2018 at 04:18 PM

quote:
w/Grienke, Godley etc, now it's hard to bet against Clay Buchholz, Paul Goldschmidt & ARIZONA in NL West -- Colo is right there



now it's Colo (W5), & AZ is slumping - div playoffs begin for Rockies, they have Dodgiz this wknd, D-backs aftr that
AZ used 8 pitchers vs. Atlnta last night, so did Braves

Phils suddenly skidding outta contention........SO WHAT, A TV audience of millions will see Rick & a team at his/their peak on TV Sund nite -- it's no wonder SOX fans are everywhere, they certainly were in Atlnta -- esp when Brandon Phillips crushed that HR Wed. nite -- he's from there & was a noted HS athlete in the Atlanta area

playoff atmosphere w/autumn in the air at Fenway (heat wave is over) -- we have to do good against them, we'll likely see them again


Lee - 9/7/2018 at 05:41 PM

Looking forward to seeing how the N.L. Wild Card race finishes. I've liked the Dodgers for a while now. We'll see how the N.L. West ends. Anything can happen with the three teams involved.

L.A., Ariz & Colo are all playing it out against each other.

Milwaukee and St. Louis trying to catch the Cubs is fun and the three teams play each other six times. Plus the Cards play L.A. three times.

I think the A.L. is pretty much set. Too bad for Seattle. They had a really good season.


Lee - 9/7/2018 at 09:13 PM

Kind of funny:

https://sports.yahoo.com/tigers-broadcasters-done-season-alleged-physical-a ltercation-201634369.html


Stephen - 9/8/2018 at 11:43 AM

Cool, ups to Tigers (feuding announcers & all )
"The Tigers are celebrating the 50th anniversary of their 1968 World Series win over the Cardinals during the weekend series. Five players from the 1968 team threw out first pitches on Friday, and a ceremony will be held before Saturday's game."

Jesus, it's a W5, they're back to .500 & the Pirates still have a pulse -- ya never know**

Tanaka is on a tear -- since All Star game he's fanned 61, walked just 10 -- ERA b4 break was over 4, he's over two runs less since at, I think radio announcers said, 2.23

Let's go Sox

**edit, that's as of 2nite -- thought it was that as of last nite:shaddap:

[Edited on 9/8/2018 by Stephen]


Stephen - 9/12/2018 at 02:35 PM

As good as we've gone this year, Oakland A's deserving of Best Team On The Planet recognition -- four of their pitchers have had Tommy John surgery this year, now their top dog, Manea (shoulder), might miss next season -- yet they're W5 & 4th-best in MLB -- on a shoestring budget (by comparison)

interesting article circulating on internet titled "Why Tommy John Is Against The Surgery That Bears His Name" -- yes it extended his career, John says -- it's now hurting others', especially youth players, he adds

w/no one in attendance, a doozie of a matchup 2nite w/combined 34-13 W-K -- Snell, the probable AL Cy, going for 19th win vs Carlos Carrasco (16-8) -- Severino goes for 18th

holy **** , Wash has a pulse & don't miss it tonite on TV -- Stepheno-no -- takes a no hitter into 7th inning, they get a hit & Stephen exits w/score 2-0 after another new-age doozie, w/Nola (16-4) & Nats lose 4-2

our season ender w/NY likely won't mean much & who woulda thought that -- you can't single any 1 guy out, Everyone doing good -- Xander 4-4 Mon nite, Brock pinch hit HR last nite -- yar

[Edited on 9/12/2018 by Stephen]


DanB - 9/13/2018 at 11:05 AM

quote:

interesting article circulating on internet titled "Why Tommy John Is Against The Surgery That Bears His Name" -- yes it extended his career, John says -- it's now hurting others', especially youth players, he adds

[Edited on 9/12/2018 by Stephen]
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Well coaches at youth levels,9-16 age, are pretty damn stupid. I've coached for the last 6 years or so and have pitch counts on my guys, 75-90. I've pulled starters out of championship games after reaching their limit. I have only had 3 kids reach 90 pitches. The wins don't matter that much.

heres some examples if idiocy: 1 kid threw 138 pitches in a 12u championship game and this doesn't include 8-10 warm ups between innings or his pregame throwing. All said he threw about 230 that day. We won the game.
Saw another coach use his in 3 or 4 games over a weekend.

Also had a coach/dad tell me his 9 year old son's "knuckle curve wasn't working today"

damn dumbasses


Stephen - 9/13/2018 at 04:54 PM

Its first team remains its winningest.....there should be an asterisk by the record when we rewrite it this year, a la Maris 61HR in 162 games, vs Ruth 60 in 154 etc --

105-47 -- .691 winning % -- 10 fewer games -- in 1912, Fenway's 1st year -- a year that started as the town reeled from the epic Titanic disaster & Boston's role in it in April 1912 -- as word leaked out from the docks & eventually to the newspapers that sailors on the Californian, which had docked in Boston & had been in contact w/the ill-fated ship that night, were saying they saw the distress rockets that were reported to have been fired from the sinking vessel --

the rockets that night were reported to the captain of the Californian & entered into the log, but he took no action & chose not to awaken his wireless operator, & himself went back to sleep after leaving instructions to use morse lamp -- this became a widely debated aspect of the story -- including who first reported it -- both the Clinton Daily Item, and 1 of the many city newspapers from that era, don't remember which, are mentioned

…..anyways the year ended ended w/the World Series & watta debut for Fenway Pahk


[Edited on 9/13/2018 by Stephen]


Stephen - 9/13/2018 at 05:09 PM

anyways the 1946 team is next (104-50), then 1915 (101-50)

1906 CUBS -- 116-36, best of all time & a Sox-Cubs WS would be A Doozie w/the huge fan followings
their older fans lament the woeful state of the Orioles, esp when they think of those mid 1960s-early 70s teams -- 109-53 in 1969, 108-54 in 1970 -- 8th & 9th all time

SEPT. 13, 1946
Ted Williams hits the only inside-the-park HR of his career as the Sox beat Cleveland 1-0 & clinch the AL pennant, their 1st since 1918


Stephen - 9/14/2018 at 03:53 PM

Whoa Noah -- we see both him & deGrom this wknd, should be Fun to watch -- Noah a 2 hitter for his 1st-ever CG last week -- as the traditional starter/reliever approach gives way to the by-committee approach, these performances are more & more to be appreciated --

Stephen has to be all-down w/the committee approach, no more than 2 IP per start -- that would definitely xtend his career -- they still might groom him as a reliever

very surprised to see Clay sidelined :yaright: -- Colo is in SF, yep picked Giants, but they flopped completely (L11) -- w/no Panda, Buster Posey, Cueto etc etc, no go -- StL-LAD is crucial this wknd, same Oakland-TB

he's had a great career & is the last of a dying breed -- Joe Mauer, all 16 years w/Twins -- it was fun being on their bandwagon when they had that great but unnoticed lineup (2005-11 or so) b4 all the NCIs came along, esp w/Justin Morneau




Stephen - 9/14/2018 at 04:02 PM

Yeah back in the day there was Beck, Bogert & Appice
Now we got Betts, Bogaerts & JBJ -- 1/3rd of an incredible squad -- hopefully Chris back to 100% soon, his starts too are by committee as he returns from shoulder inflammation -- would have to think that'd change for playoffs, but There Is No Telling -- but watta team, Let's Go Sox


Stephen - 9/27/2018 at 07:00 PM

quote:
w/Grienke, Godley etc, now it's hard to bet against Clay Buchholz, Paul Goldschmidt & ARIZONA in NL West -- Colo is right there

playoffs begin for Rockies, they have Dodgiz this wknd,

Phils suddenly skidding outta contention.......

playoff atmosphere w/autumn in the air at Fenway (heat wave is over) -- we have to do good against them, we'll likely see them again
quote:



No Clay so no go for Ari-zono, they **** the bed qwik

won't happen but still -- it's his last start of the season in a big game b4 a mile-high playoff-bound crowd in Colo, & why for once can't Stephen just shoot the works & see what he can do over 9 -- he's got all winter to recover -- he had a CG last year, & A HR To Boot, & came thru it uninjured

yep skidding outta contention on an L7 -- "the Eagles started just in time"

but watta season & team --
if Chris & David are going lights out but have to be lifted b/c of innings restrictions, we won't go far -- Rick isn't restricted, LET EM PITCH & let's go Sox -- we've proven we're tops


porkchopbob - 9/27/2018 at 08:19 PM

Brewers and Cubs are both in. Division is still up in the air. Glad to see the Brewers sweep the Cards, who also might still sneak in depending on how the Rockies and Dodgers finish up. Brewers finish up against their former division foe, the Tigers; Cubs finish up against the Cards who are playing for playoffs now.

Yankees and A's both in as well. Has a team with almost 100 wins ever felt like they backed in to the playoffs like the 2018 Yankees? But they seem to have gotten things together in the final month, especially with Judge and Chapman returning. Sanchez is hitting well, but seems to be their Achilles heel when he's behind home plate.


porkchopbob - 10/1/2018 at 12:57 PM

NL Tie Breaker games today. Let's go Brewers!


oldcoot - 10/1/2018 at 01:38 PM

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NL Tie Breaker games today. Let's go Brewers!



Uh, no!


GO CUBS!!!!


emr - 10/1/2018 at 05:55 PM

Kind of crazy that an extra game needs to be played when all 4 teams are already in the playoffs; but it is the difference between one and off game and winning the division. Heightens again my belief that 4 teams should qualify and no more one game playoffs. If that was the rule I would advocated for going further down the statistics (to decide the winner) like football does to avoid an extra game. This brings in a few bucks; but to some extent punishes teams like the Cubs and the Brewers who have the best record in their league


porkchopbob - 10/1/2018 at 08:22 PM

quote:
quote:
NL Tie Breaker games today. Let's go Brewers!



Uh, no!


GO CUBS!!!!


Sorry buddy. BREW CREW are Central Champs! Great game considering both of these teams dropped over 10 runs yesterday. Gotta love October baseball.


porkchopbob - 10/1/2018 at 08:27 PM

quote:
If that was the rule I would advocated for going further down the statistics (to decide the winner) like football does to avoid an extra game. This brings in a few bucks; but to some extent punishes teams like the Cubs and the Brewers who have the best record in their league


I like the tie-breaker game. They play a 163rd game because they can, whereas, you can't add a tie-breaker game into an already punishing football season. I don't think it punishes them to duke it out; there are enough stats deciding things in baseball as it is.

But I agree about the one-and-done wild card game - make it a 3-game series if it's playoff baseball, since the World Series now already creeps into November.


Lee - 10/2/2018 at 08:21 PM

Go Cubs Go! Come on guys!


porkchopbob - 10/3/2018 at 12:07 PM

and Bu-BYE CUBS!

Epic games so far.


Stephen - 10/3/2018 at 04:44 PM

Khris Davis might be the most effective .247 hitter ever -- he's attained that BA four straight years -- NY has had a very good year but LET'S GO A's, do away w/the Bronx Bomiz

at .330 w/43 HR & 130 RBI, JD has had best year for a player joining a team for his 1st season (article said),
...since Frank Robinson's 1st year in Balt., when he won the Triple Crown, and they the WS in a 4 game sweep over Sandy Koufax, Don Drysdale & Dodgiz in Sandy's last year -- Frank .316, 49, 122

Oak makes me more nervous than NY but still want them to win -- Let's Go Sox, we got Mookie & JD, Xander & Benintendi, Holt was hot down the stretch.....ya 108 wins in 2018 -- we did this w/out Dustin or Hanley, but our bench is Good -- Pearce & Phillips were great pickups.....Sawx

[Edited on 10/3/2018 by Stephen]


porkchopbob - 10/3/2018 at 04:59 PM

Yanks are kind of tough to figure out, 100 wins but they cooled off in the middle of the season after a hot start. But they've had a nice September with players getting healthy and Boone finally giving up on Bird and Sonny Gray. Yanks and A's split their season series, should be a good one in da Bronx tonight. Would love to see the Yanks eventually take on the Red Sucks.


Lee - 10/3/2018 at 07:01 PM

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Oak makes me more nervous than NY but still want them to win -- Let's Go Sox,


I don't get that. If you are more scared about Oakland, why do you want them to win? Especially as a Red Sux fan. Seems like you'd love to beat NY.


Stephen - 10/3/2018 at 08:37 PM

Sox fans Never root for the Yankees -- EVER, for any reason


Lee - 10/3/2018 at 09:06 PM

quote:
Sox fans Never root for the Yankees -- EVER, for any reason



Then I'd want to beat them!

As someone who doesn't care TOO much, I would like to see that series. I'm sure MLB would too for the ratings.


porkchopbob - 10/4/2018 at 01:13 PM

Yanks looked pretty beastly last night, look to be at full power. I don't think Oakland knew what hit them. Should be a stellar series if the Red Sucks can get their momentum back after going 5-5 to finish the season. Granted, they had the division wrapped up, but Yanks are peaking at the right time.

Brewers kick things off at home in Milwaukee against Purple Super 1990s Team. It would be interesting to see the Brewers play the Braves for the pennant. WI loves their Brewers, but there are still a few Braves fans kicking around.


Lee - 10/4/2018 at 08:47 PM

Well, we get Red Sux / Yanks. Can't believe it has been so long since they have met in the playoffs. Too bad its not in the A.L. Championship.


Lee - 10/4/2018 at 08:55 PM

quote:
and Bu-BYE CUBS!

Epic games so far.



Will any Brewers fans actually fill their stadium? Seems like there are usually more road team fans there.


porkchopbob - 10/4/2018 at 09:28 PM

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Will any Brewers fans actually fill their stadium? Seems like there are usually more road team fans there.


The Brewers rank in the top 10 for attendance, and the only time there is ever a noticeable opposing crowd is when the Cubs are in town, which is likely what you're referring to. Considering how close the two cities are, and that Chicago is a much larger market, it's not that surprising (though I don't recall White Sox fans doing the same at County Stadium when the Brewers were in the AL)


Lee - 10/4/2018 at 09:42 PM

Heh Heh. Yeah I am referring to the Flubs. Funny how the Brewers wouldn't let people with Chicago area codes in on the pre sale for tix before the season started.

And you are right about the White Sux. They don't travel well. Heck, their fans don't even come up here to the north side.

90 minute trip between the two cities so it makes sense.


emr - 10/4/2018 at 09:54 PM

quote:
Yanks looked pretty beastly last night, look to be at full power. I don't think Oakland knew what hit them. Should be a stellar series if the Red Sucks can get their momentum back after going 5-5 to finish the season. Granted, they had the division wrapped up, but Yanks are peaking at the right time.

Brewers kick things off at home in Milwaukee against Purple Super 1990s Team. It would be interesting to see the Brewers play the Braves for the pennant. WI loves their Brewers, but there are still a few Braves fans kicking around.


Remember; Severino was one batter away in the 4th from getting knocked out. He then gave up two hits to start the 5th. Yanks lineup is beastly. Pitching iffy. Severino wasn't right the second half of the season; Sabathia has a bad knee; Tanaka one game good one bad; Chapman has a bad knee. Betances did pitch better last night than he has in a while


porkchopbob - 10/4/2018 at 09:59 PM

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Remember; Severino was one batter away in the 4th from getting knocked out. He then gave up two hits to start the 5th. Yanks lineup is beastly. Pitching iffy. Severino wasn't right the second half of the season; Sabathia has a bad knee; Tanaka one game good one bad; Chapman has a bad knee. Betances did pitch better last night than he has in a while


Severino came out hot those first few innings, and he got out of any corners he pitched himself into. I wouldn't call their pitching "iffy", unless they keep using Britton who seems to insist on making his own job hard. It's the playoffs, good teams are also going to get some hits.

Like I said, should be a good series.


porkchopbob - 10/4/2018 at 10:26 PM

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Heh Heh. Yeah I am referring to the Flubs. Funny how the Brewers wouldn't let people with Chicago area codes in on the pre sale for tix before the season started.

And you are right about the White Sux. They don't travel well. Heck, their fans don't even come up here to the north side.

90 minute trip between the two cities so it makes sense.


Yeah, it always annoys us Brewers fans when the Cubs fans come to town. I don't think there are any other MLB division foes that are that close. Maybe Dodgers/Padres


Lee - 10/4/2018 at 10:37 PM

As much as the Flubs charge us, it is almost cheaper to head up to Milwaukee. $11 for a beer here.


Stephen - 10/5/2018 at 05:01 PM

m-m-m-m-m-Mookie, the 1st since Mickey Mantle to lead the league both in BA and extra base hits
Alex Cora has said "No limits" on Chris Sale -- "he's good to go & ready to roll" was the quote in the paper
Let's Go Sox, yow, the tension (haha) -- our best shot is for the three starters to go out there w/the idea of going nine, or far enough to hand Kimbrel the ball for the save (or if they get in trouble too)
-- if Sale is removed today because of a pitch count, then Cora was BSing in the article

[Edited on 10/5/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 10/5/2018 at 08:26 PM

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Yeah, it always annoys us Brewers fans when the Cubs fans come to town. I don't think there are any other MLB division foes that are that close. Maybe Dodgers/Padres



I actually won about $100 on the Brewers because they won the N.L. Central. My friends here thought I was nuts but hey...

Had I not put $ on Cleveland to win the whole thing I wouldn't mind if Milwaukee won their only World Series.


porkchopbob - 10/7/2018 at 03:51 PM

Sox should be a little worried, 5-4 to Sale on Friday was a good sign for the Yanks. Sure, they stranded a few go-ahead runners, but they held after Happ spotted the Sox a bunch of runs and stayed in it. Judge is hot and the bull pen is pretty solid. They are in a good spot heading back to the Bronx tied up after a big win. Yanks seem to have Price's number.

Brewers and Dodgers could complete sweeps today. Fear the Beer!


porkchopbob - 10/8/2018 at 12:12 PM

Brewers wrapped things up in crushing fashion on the road. Nice win, pitching and hitting all seem to be firing. Meanwhile, the Braves live for another day. Guess the crew will just have to deal with a few days off.


porkchopbob - 10/9/2018 at 12:29 PM

Dang, Yanks got spanked at home. Red Sox finally put it in playoff gear.


Lee - 10/10/2018 at 11:39 AM

I wonder if the Brewers wish they didn't have so much time off? Hell, they are on a roll. Guess it gives them time to set the pitching rotation as they see fit.


porkchopbob - 10/10/2018 at 12:46 PM

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I wonder if the Brewers wish they didn't have so much time off? Hell, they are on a roll. Guess it gives them time to set the pitching rotation as they see fit.


I think the rest is always welcome. Sure, momentum is good, but downtown doesn't hurt. Interesting if they end up playing the Houston Rastros - (if the Brewers win the NL pennant) they will be the two teams to have won AL and NL pennants.

Meanwhile, the Yanks are toast. Bad time for their bats to go ice cold, even worse that they had the bases loaded and were back in it in the 9th with "I'm a scarecrow" Kimbrell hemorrhaging base runners.

Weird season, Boone had a lot of pieces to play with in his first year, but they are still missing some key assets in their rotation. They stuck with Sonny Gray in the rotation and Greg Bird in the lineup for too long. Sabbathia is probably done. Not sure what they see in Britton, he gives up a lot from his short trips to the mound. Big decision on Gary Sanchez, is his bat worth the mistakes? Bull pen is solid if they can hold on to Robertson - he could close for big money elsewhere.

Sox look good, the Rastros should be a good matchup.


Lee - 10/10/2018 at 08:27 PM

I don't think the Yanks are toast. Nobody can predict injuries. Wasn't their fault. Haven't heard anything about it but if I was in there shoes, I would go after Hamels.


porkchopbob - 10/10/2018 at 09:14 PM

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I don't think the Yanks are toast. Nobody can predict injuries. Wasn't their fault. Haven't heard anything about it but if I was in there shoes, I would go after Hamels.


As in "done for the season". They've got a great young squad, they just need to plug some holes in the offseason.


Lee - 10/11/2018 at 08:24 PM

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I don't think the Yanks are toast. Nobody can predict injuries. Wasn't their fault. Haven't heard anything about it but if I was in there shoes, I would go after Hamels.


As in "done for the season". They've got a great young squad, they just need to plug some holes in the offseason.



Gotcha. Yeah they lost. Tough to win 100 games and not even get to the Championship Series.

Speaking of, who does everyone like in the two series? I like Houston and Milwaukee. Wouldn't shock me if Boston moved on though. Actually, it wouldn't surprise me whoever gets to the World Series.

I guess if I had a rooting interest I would pick the Brewers. Never won it so why not?


porkchopbob - 10/11/2018 at 10:29 PM

I'm a Brewers fan, so I'm pretty excited. The number of playoff series they've had in my lifetime is pretty low. The Dodgers are the popular pick since they were there last season, but the Brewers are pretty hot. That's why they play the games...

Not really pulling for either AL team, but I dislike the Sox and wouldn't mind seeing their season done. Not a lot of people talking about the defending Rastros, they could totally repeat. These are 4 incredibly good teams.


Lee - 10/13/2018 at 10:44 AM

The constant pitching changes are annoying me. Over four hours for the game last night.


Stephen - 10/15/2018 at 04:11 PM

There's a Seawolves team up here, but Erie SeaWolves are legit -- this one's political
HS team was called Rebels, under 'political' (read brainless) pressure they switched it to Wolves (even w/the majority telling em to leave Rebels alone)
A nearby HS is the Seahorses, so when football teams merged......the cliched boring shallow politically-manufactured hybrid Seawolves

winning 2 down there won't be as easy as in Bronx (It Wasn't Easy, only recently recovered from final inning of final game there, OMG)
same thing tho, "'stros siezed homefield!", but it didn't mean anything against NY -- forget the apple, that was the big Enchilada beating them (NY)

but houston isn't WS titlist for nothing, they're super -- like us, their winningest team ever -- 2nd best in MLB -- meantime Chris tries to get sprung from hospital (stomach ailment) -- both he & Craig weren't on top of it really in 2nd half of season -- Craig has given up runs in his last 3 outings

But Ya, SAWX -- no telling what's ahead -- thought it was Rick tmrw nite, I guess it's Eovaldi -- he pitched good his last turn

CHIEF WAHOO LIVES -- no political talking heads change that for bball fans who love the Tribe, esp older fans



[Edited on 10/16/2018 by Stephen]


emr - 10/15/2018 at 07:38 PM

What happens if Boston & LA win and Kershaw starts against Price?

gonna be like a football score!!!


Lee - 10/15/2018 at 08:39 PM

3-0?


emr - 10/15/2018 at 10:12 PM

3-0 is correct; heading into the bottom of the first

Never seen two great pitchers less able to perform on the big stage. Kershaw is probably the best pitcher since Pedro/Big Unit/Maddux. But in October he vanishes, Price is not in the same category; but an excellent pitcher who disappears completely.


Stephen - 10/16/2018 at 04:36 PM

However, law of averages began to swing in David's favor in last start

We Need To Reset Our Rotation --
with Chris going no more than 3-4 IP in his remaining appearances, Stack The Back End --
A fresh rested relaxed Chris Sale is more valuable coming in the 6th inning w/a 4-2 lead, than at the start -- setting em up for Craig, or mayb Sale himself coming in the 7th-8th inning to finish, is a sound adjustment, if he's willing/able to buy in -- that lefty-righty tandem at the end of games would be grim for the opposition

Chris was lights out earlier & a top Cy candidate at All Star break -- the "mild shoulder inflammation" has had more than enough time to heal -- he's pitched great for us & the competitive fire has to kick in at some point -- he's outta the hospital, hopefully en route back to midseason form,at least long enough for a few Chris-type innings in this most crucial time of year that they all say they play for

PCBob's squad Brewin up a potent pilsener in the Beer City alright -- would like to see Milwaukee win -- let's go Sox


porkchopbob - 10/16/2018 at 04:41 PM

Yeah, Brewers are looking good, all the talk of them wearing out their bullpen seems like chatter. They took the LA crowd out of it early last night (while the Packers were laying on a dramatic finish against SF). See if they can steal another one tonight.


Lee - 10/16/2018 at 04:49 PM

The Dodgers HAVE to win tonight. Gonzalez vs. Hill should be a good match up.


Stephen - 10/16/2018 at 04:55 PM

X2 -- Gio should be ready to have a good game, he got a new lease on life going to Mil from Wash & hopefully is dialed in -- Rich Hill a Good P too, was hoping we'd keep him when he was here -- 2 solid vets


porkchopbob - 10/17/2018 at 02:00 PM

Well, Gio didn't last long, but the bullpen held for another FIVE HOURS. That's almost 3AM here in EST. I like free baseball, but my eyes haven't quite opened yet this morning. Brewers had plenty of chances against the Dodgers' bullpen with the top of the order squandering it a couple times in extra innings. Well, both teams did, it was just a matter of time until somebody got a ball past the infield.

Meanwhile Machado is becoming Machadoaboutsomething dirty. Two questionable flailing slides in Game 3, and now trying to kick Aguilar in the ankle. Wonder if the league will discipline him, last night's kick at first was pretty flagrant.


Lee - 10/17/2018 at 08:23 PM

Not sure what to make of that play. Guess you could spin that any way you want to. It does kind of look like Machado took a swipe at him but the first baseman probably should have been off the base when it happened anyway. He was already out so get off of the bag.

I used to ump games for years and one time something similar happened. There was a play at the plate and the catcher was standing on the plate. Runner comes around third and plows into the catcher.

Catcher didn't have the ball. The runner can run home. I almost had a riot but that was the rule.

Wasn't like the Buster Posey rule.


porkchopbob - 10/17/2018 at 09:09 PM

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Not sure what to make of that play. Guess you could spin that any way you want to. It does kind of look like Machado took a swipe at him but the first baseman probably should have been off the base when it happened anyway. He was already out so get off of the bag.



Well, the two of them made up, so I'm not too torn up about it. But Aguilar was hardly hogging the bag and Machado definitely looked down and dragged his foot at Aguilar. Bizarre, since at least the two slides possibly gained his team an advantage.

But hey, Machado was the last one over home plate which is what matters.

https://brobible.com/sports/article/manny-machado-jesus-aguilar-game-4/


porkchopbob - 10/18/2018 at 12:57 PM

Bad time for Brewers bats to go quiet. You just can't keep stranding runners and expect to move on.

Meanwhile, Altuve has got to be pretty pissed with some Astros fans, though I think Mookie would have caught it. It's hard to not want to grab an object flying hundreds of feet in your direction but just let it drop!


Lee - 10/18/2018 at 08:07 PM

There is an interesting piece on Yahoo Sports today about how that Mchado play might affect his marketability as a free agent this year. Questioning it really. I kind of doubt it will matter. It's not like he was Marichal taking a bat to someone's head.

In other news, Verlander better have his big boy pants on tonight!


porkchopbob - 10/19/2018 at 07:05 PM

Who would have bet on Price over Verlander this in a game this season? But that's how good the Sox are this year. I think the real world series was Sox-Yankees. Which ever team gets the NL pennant is going to be a huge underdog.

I don't think Machado's nonsense will greatly affect his offseason pay day - lots of teams that would love a chance to get a meager fine in the playoffs.

Brewers have to win tonight. Wheels came off last game. Hopefully home field advantage has some, well, advantage.


Lee - 10/20/2018 at 12:36 AM

Is Joe Buck the most annoying announcer ever?


porkchopbob - 10/20/2018 at 07:20 PM

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Is Joe Buck the most annoying announcer ever?


YES.

The reason everyone hates Buck is because he never seems interested in the teams in front of him unless it's the St Louis Cardinals. And the dude gets negative, so whatever team is behind, Buck can't get on their case quick enough. He thinks he's adding to the drama, but he's just infuriating every fan that has to listen to him. I turn the radio broadcast on and mute the TV.

Speaking of, loved hearing Uecker's voice cracking with excitement in the 9th of game 6. Would be pretty amazing if the Brewers pulled this off tonight, I know a lot of people who are making the pilgrimage to Miller Park today.


Lee - 10/21/2018 at 12:13 AM

Yet his dad was an icon.


porkchopbob - 10/21/2018 at 03:42 PM

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Yet his dad was an icon.


For sure, wonder how far Joe Buck would have gotten without him.

Meanwhile, Brewers are out. Lousy game 7, Dodgers' pitching was pretty flawless. Still, nice to have been there, it was a pretty great season. Next year!


Lee - 10/22/2018 at 11:33 AM

Well this World Series holds no interest to me. Told my wife I wasn't going to watch it. She rolled her eyes and told me I was nuts. Fine I'll watch it and just pray the Red Sux lose.


porkchopbob - 10/22/2018 at 03:23 PM

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Well this World Series holds no interest to me. Told my wife I wasn't going to watch it. She rolled her eyes and told me I was nuts. Fine I'll watch it and just pray the Red Sux lose.


Haha same. Go Dodgers, I guess. Back to wasting my time watching football!


Lee - 10/22/2018 at 06:09 PM

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quote:
Well this World Series holds no interest to me. Told my wife I wasn't going to watch it. She rolled her eyes and told me I was nuts. Fine I'll watch it and just pray the Red Sux lose.


Haha same. Go Dodgers, I guess. Back to wasting my time watching football!


You can watch croquette!


Stephen - 10/23/2018 at 08:39 PM

They have the benefit of having been to the big dance, so now they know what to expect & that'll put LA over the top, some are saying
Wrong
Believe the pundits are also wrong saying Dave R will get a his usual big ovation -- he won't be booed obviously but they won't go crazy for him -- Dave's gotten many big ovations at Fenway, this is the WS tho

It'll be cold 2nite, they're not used to that & will struggle w/it
A Chris-Clayton matchup would've been amazing a couple years ago -- Chris is limited now -- maybe the cold will benefit him -- he's 12-4, Clayton is 9-5 -- the 2 former Cy winners won't go more than 5, by design

still think Chris should be used later in games b/c of that (being limited) -- Eduardo is 13-5 but hasn't pitched in weeks -- mayb Steven W could help if healthy -- Drew P has been called up as last option

LA is very good, they're not 2 time pennant winners for nothing
SOX IN 6 -- it'll all depend on the bullpen



[Edited on 10/23/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 10/23/2018 at 08:57 PM

I saw the line. Boston is -135. I can't believe it isn't more than that. Almost a sucker bet if you ask me. Red Sux should be favored by more then that. Well rested with home field advantage. That line really puzzles me.


Lee - 10/23/2018 at 08:59 PM

Oh. And they are just better anyway. Lineup is playing better. Betts is playing out of his mind. Wonder if Machado has extra personal security.


Stephen - 10/23/2018 at 11:24 PM

Yep they were the Robins when they last met, in 1916 -- Wilbert Robinson was one of the greats
they set a record that won't be broken this century-+-2 later -- more than 42,000 at Fenway!?!?


Lee - 10/24/2018 at 08:51 PM

I've been to Fenway once and loved it. It seemed like I had been to minor league parks bigger. Very quaint. And a cool neighborhood. Way better than Wrigleyville in my opinion.


Stephen - 10/25/2018 at 04:48 PM

We won 3 there last week (Hou)
don't think it'll come as easy this wknd

biggest thing is securing Series on road, coming back on either side of 3-2, it'd still be leaving too much to chance -- LA is still dangerous & can go off anytime

but two solid games so far & yep, everyone has been pitching in -- depth, balance, key players etc -- so far so good for the RED SOX

"On This Day"
2007
Hideki Okajima becomes the first Japanese-born player to pitch in the World Series. The former Nippon Ham Fighters hurler comes out of the bullpen in relief of Curt Schilling and retires seven straight Rockies, including Kazuo Matsui, making it the first time Japanese natives have faced one another in the Fall Classic.

[Edited on 10/25/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 10/25/2018 at 07:41 PM

And I thought I knew useless baseball trivia.


Lee - 10/27/2018 at 10:59 AM

What a game last night! I wonder what inning they stopped selling beer?


Stephen - 10/27/2018 at 08:45 PM

It becomes an endurance contest now -- the equivalent of 4 games in 3 days -- (befitting the season) they'll be zombies out there 2nite, understandably, & if it comes back to Boston the 3 hour jet lag will have more of an impact than usual, for both teams w/the cumulative 4-in-3 effect)

EDUARDO (13-5) -- when he's on he's got great stuff -- good call for tonite
Ian won't join Boone, Bill Buckner, Bucky, Pesky etc in Sox infamy -- If We Win The Series
I knew we'd tie it aftr they took their ace out in the 7th -- Eduardo has that kind of stuff too -- only a no hitter will enable a CG however, & even that...
Watta team, let's go Sox



[Edited on 10/27/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 10/27/2018 at 10:13 PM

It'd be interesting if L.A. won the next two games. If I were a betting man I'd say it goes back to Boston with them up 3-2.


emr - 10/28/2018 at 07:44 PM

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What happens if Boston & LA win and Kershaw starts against Price?

gonna be like a football score!!!


Lets see how this goes down; different odds of there being a football score than if the game was in Fenway for sure


porkchopbob - 10/29/2018 at 01:00 PM

Kershaw got lit up. Kind of anti-climactic sine the Sox have been the top of the league since before the All-Star break. Another banner year for Boston, congrats.


emr - 10/29/2018 at 07:03 PM

But price was great. I think he should have been the MVP. Kershaw just can't come up big when the pressure is on (at least not with any consistency)


Stephen - 10/29/2018 at 07:21 PM

glad we were playing them not Brewers PCBob -- Awesome -- beat by 15 the win total of the previous 2 years, setting a team record along the way
Mookie or JD, JD or Mookie -- there's no pick, make em co-MVPs
previously a journeyman, Steve Pearce becomes a monster when putting on red socks -- who coulda forseen that

…..when Mitch hit that 3 run jack Sat nite, you knew a monster dormant the previous many innings, was A-wakened & no EL-A pitcher, ClayK incl, would be safe

Eduardo R became the 1st to pitch on 0 days rest, since Firpo Marberry for 1924 Senators
teams went a combined 18 for 118 in the 18 inning game (read it somewhere)

…..yeah we have the highest payroll -- but none can say that the boys weren't tops in every phase -- depth, balance, speed, power, good bench, good pitching

in short, BOSTON RED SOX are tops in 2018, huge parade/town turned upside down Wed

[Edited on 10/29/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 10/31/2018 at 10:55 PM

Saw this thing that said this year's World Series had the worst ratings in a long time. Interesting given that there were two iconic franchises.


Stephen - 11/1/2018 at 12:21 AM

RIP, Willie McCovey -- one of the greats -- of All time -- one of the few to play in 4 decades (1959-80)


Lee - 11/1/2018 at 01:01 PM

Seems the World Series parade got a little out of hand yesterday. One fan arrested for hitting Cora with a can of beer and the World Series trophy was slightly damaged by another can of beer. Some idiot fans in the world...


Lee - 11/2/2018 at 09:07 PM

Wow, Dodgers give Kershaw $93mm for three years. Guess his less than stellar post season record (and that's putting it mildly) doesn't bother them.

His lifetime playoff E.R.A. is just a tad south of 5.


Lee - 11/9/2018 at 12:54 PM

Bill James: Players are as important as beer vendors? Sabermetrics?


alloak41 - 11/10/2018 at 06:18 AM

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RIP, Willie McCovey -- one of the greats -- of All time -- one of the few to play in 4 decades (1959-80)


Didnt hear this news....RIP Willie McCovey


Lee - 11/16/2018 at 09:20 PM

Christian Yelich & Mookie Betts win their respective MVPs. Can't argue with that. Though I was kind of surprised J.D. didn't finish with more votes. That guy is amazing.


Stephen - 11/17/2018 at 01:15 PM

Same here -- as great as those two players were this season, JD I thought should've been MVP -- 43 HR, 130 RBI, .330 BA -- #s not often put up --


gondicar - 11/24/2018 at 02:31 AM

Hope y’all enjoyed the 2018 baseball season as much as I did.


Lee - 11/28/2018 at 12:26 PM

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Hope y’all enjoyed the 2018 baseball season as much as I did.




Yeah it was great. Tigers in the basement all season and the Cubs blew their lead.


Stephen - 12/1/2018 at 03:57 PM

Gosh, not since Yoan Moncada has someone come with such rave reviews
& he ain't even a playah

instead, he's "Prized Hitting Guru" Robert Van Scoyoc
...who, with his "cutting-edge hitting instruction" is set to impart his wisdom on the LA Dodgers in 2019

they'll gather around the messiah next spring, and the skies above their spring training facility will part as he "preaches the importance of launch angle...a more athletic stance....keeping swing paths through the strike zone as long as possible, and lifting the ball in the air..."

as the "hitting strategist" for the AZ D-backs in 2018, the great Mr. VS "provided individualized, data-centric strategies on how to attack opposing pitchers."

this wildly enthusiastic espn article also said LA has hired a "game-planning coach"

It's such horse **** -- all this nerdy new-age hi-tech jargon/lingo/baloney will count for zero up against a high hard one or a nasty slider on the black

coming next to MLB dugouts, software for computer coaches to stream live-time data into the computer, to aid in upcoming at bats

I still like the competition between the lines, & of course, Ya Sawx, watta year

this other **** ? hitting strategists AND hitting coaches, not to mention assistants for both?? Game-planning coaches to go along w/fielding coaches, bench coaches And the manager???

Messers. Doubleday & Cartwright would be doubled over, also doing cartwheels in their graves at what's become of the game they invented -- it's been overmanaged, over-administrated, over-financed beyond recognition, on the field and off


[Edited on 12/1/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 12/10/2018 at 10:59 PM

So Harold Baines gets in The Hall. Great guy, very good player. So are they wanting us to believe as a point of comparison he was better than Dale Murphy, Lou Whitaker and Mattingly who are not in? Same era. They were way better than Baines.



[Edited on 12/10/2018 by Lee]


Lee - 12/12/2018 at 01:13 PM

So BoSox fans, I read that the Sux are taking offers for Porcello, Bogaerts and Bradley Jr.

Interesting...


Lee - 1/14/2019 at 10:56 PM

Lost Mel Stottlemyre today. Sad. Nice man. Great coach.


DanB - 1/19/2019 at 01:21 PM

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So Harold Baines gets in The Hall. Great guy, very good player. So are they wanting us to believe as a point of comparison he was better than Dale Murphy, Lou Whitaker and Mattingly who are not in? Same era. They were way better than Baines.



[Edited on 12/10/2018 by Lee]


I haven't thought about Baines in this context. Lee you are absolutely correct these guys were better than Harold.


Lee - 1/20/2019 at 12:50 PM

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So Harold Baines gets in The Hall. Great guy, very good player. So are they wanting us to believe as a point of comparison he was better than Dale Murphy, Lou Whitaker and Mattingly who are not in? Same era. They were way better than Baines.



[Edited on 12/10/2018 by Lee]


I haven't thought about Baines in this context. Lee you are absolutely correct these guys were better than Harold.


I guess this is basically what was once the old timers committee. There are 12 people that vote on it and you have to get 9, so 75%, just like the regular vote. That's how Trammell & Jack Morris got it.


Lee - 1/24/2019 at 01:01 PM

What did everyone think of The HOF results? Rivera, Halladay, Edgar Martinez & Mussina. I was fine with that. I kind of wish McGriff would get in but he isn't even close unfortunately.


oldcoot - 1/24/2019 at 04:37 PM

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What did everyone think of The HOF results? Rivera, Halladay, Edgar Martinez & Mussina. I was fine with that. I kind of wish McGriff would get in but he isn't even close unfortunately.


No qualms about any of those really.

Jim Kaat is another one you never hear a whisper about. Something like 283 career wins and double digit gold glove awards. That he could have the length of career that he did is a real accomplishment too.


Lee - 1/24/2019 at 08:18 PM

Kaat is a fellow Meeechigander. Zeeland. Small town. Should he be in? You could certainly make an argument. Given the way the game is played now, I doubt anyone will win 283 games again.

I kind of relate him to Bert Blyleven who got in. Only guy from Holland in.

My thoughts on some of these guys is that they probably won't get in. I don't know how much some of the voters these days know regarding baseball and its history. Saying that, I don't see a lot of guys that could get in as the older writers retire so the younger guys probably won't even know who some of these players are(were).

There are several players I think should be in that aren't. And some that are in that I don't think should be. All subjective. someone's opinion.

[Edited on 1/25/2019 by Lee]


IPowrie - 1/28/2019 at 09:40 PM

Nice title. I go see them a few times every summer.


Lee - 2/5/2019 at 07:56 PM

Happt 85th birthday Hank Aaron!


Lee - 2/7/2019 at 08:23 PM

RIP Frank Robinson. Great man.

https://sports.yahoo.com/frank-robinson-hall-famer-mlbs-first-black-manager -dies-83-192855868.html


Stephen - 2/7/2019 at 11:01 PM

Yes, was going to reply thanks for the post about Hank Aaron's birthday -- and how one could spend all day in a discussion nee argument about who was greater, Hank, Frank, Willie Mays, Willie Mac......
RIP Frank Robinson -- great career, great man


Lee - 2/8/2019 at 02:16 PM

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Yes, was going to reply thanks for the post about Hank Aaron's birthday -- and how one could spend all day in a discussion nee argument about who was greater, Hank, Frank, Willie Mays, Willie Mac......
RIP Frank Robinson -- great career, great man


Robinson was probably a tad underrated for the time. Given his contemporaries I kind of get it. And he didn't exactly endear himself to a lot of people in the baseball world.

I have had this discussion many times over the years with baseball diehards like myself about who was the best. From the guys you mentioned (and from that era) I definitely say Mays. I can't believe the Giants didn't rule the baseball world in the 60s. FOUR Hall of Famers on that team: Mays, McCovery, Cepeda, Marichal.

I find it fun to discuss who was "the best". So subjective. Even at a particular position. My all time favorite player is George Brett. When I was a kid my friend's favorite was Mike Schmidt. We would debate about that a lot. I guess picking one over the other would be a tossup.

Kind of like deciding Machado or Harper.


Stephen - 2/8/2019 at 05:56 PM

Same here, always loved those sports bull sessions
Mickey M should probably be included too -- my gosh if not for the injuries, his career numbers.....
same Ted Williams too, re missing 3 years -- who was greater, Ted or the Yankee Clipper
.....to present-day, fun discussions re Altuve/Betts

but thought the same thing when Frank was with Reds & those mid-60s teams w/Pete Rose, Vada Pinson, Jim Maloney, John Tsourias (? sp) Bobby Knopp, Deron Johnson & others didn't win more often


Lee - 2/8/2019 at 08:30 PM

I thought Ted Williams missed more time than that but I could be wrong. He was a pilot in two wars. Very noble. Hank Greenberg was another one. Also a pilot.

And yeah, Mantle's knees were shot. Plus he, Whitey Ford and Billy Martin partied too much. Some of the stories about those three are pretty funny.


Stephen - 2/9/2019 at 03:26 PM

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who was greater, Ted or the Yankee Clipper
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or Stan the Man -- his 1948 season is probly the best individual-offense season ever -- came within a couple of HR of the league lead -- otherwise, tops in every offensive category that year -- 135 runs, 230 hits, a sick .376 BA, an equally sick .702 slugging %, tops in doubles, triples, all the other categories

...& yes leading along to Schmidt/Brett, Boggs/Gwynn & Harper/Machado today -- wonder where they'll end up this season


Lee - 2/12/2019 at 08:41 PM

It warms the cockles of my heart to see that Spring Training has begun. This time of year is great for sports to take your mind off the lousy weather. NCAA Hoops Tournament then the baseball season starting!


Lee - 2/14/2019 at 01:28 PM

2019 Odds to Win World Series:

New York Yankees — 6/1
Boston Red Sox — 7/1
Houston Astros — 7/1
Los Angeles Dodgers — 9/1
Philadelphia Phillies — 10/1
Chicago Cubs — 12/1
Milwaukee Brewers — 14/1
St Louis Cardinals — 14/1
Atlanta Braves — 16/1
Cleveland Indians — 16/1
New York Mets — 16/1
Washington Nationals — 16/1
Colorado Rockies — 25/1
Chicago White Sox — 33/1
Cincinnati Reds — 33/1
Los Angeles Angels — 33/1
Oakland Athletics — 33/1
Tampa Bay Rays — 33/1
Arizona Diamondbacks — 50/1
Minnesota Twins — 50/1
Seattle Mariners — 50/1
Pittsburgh Pirates — 66/1
San Diego Padres — 66/1
San Francisco Giants — 66/1
Toronto Blue Jays — 66/1
Texas Rangers — 100/1
Detroit Tigers — 150/1
Kansas City Royals — 150/1
Miami Marlins — 150/1
Baltimore Orioles — 250/1


fensranger - 2/14/2019 at 04:37 PM

good to see Yankees back where they belong. Every other team in NY stinks. Islanders are not a NY team!!!!


Lee - 2/14/2019 at 05:41 PM

The site I bet through although close to the prior post, does have some differences. You can actually bet these now. They're for a $100 bet. Same idea, just presented differently.


Boston Red Sox +600
Houston Astros +600
New York Yankees +600
Los Angeles Dodgers +700
Chicago Cubs +1100
Milwaukee Brewers +1200
Philadelphia Phillies +1200
Atlanta Braves +1400
Cleveland Indians +1400
St. Louis Cardinals +1400
Washington Nationals +1600
Colorado Rockies +1800
New York Mets +2200
Oakland Athletics +2500
Tampa Bay Rays +3500
Arizona Diamondbacks +5000
Chicago White Sox +5000
Los Angeles Angels +5000
Minnesota Twins +6000
Seattle Mariners +6000
Cincinnati Reds +7000
Pittsburgh Pirates +7000
Toronto Blue Jays +9000
San Diego Padres +10000
San Francisco Giants +12500
Texas Rangers +20000
Detroit Tigers +25000
Kansas City Royals +25000
Miami Marlins +35000
Baltimore Orioles +60000


Lee - 2/14/2019 at 05:50 PM

And keep in mine these are going to change dramatically as soon as Machado, Harper and a few others finally sign.
Still, if you have a crystal ball and think you know where some of those guys may or may not play, it might be fun to take a flyer on someone.

There's already a line of whether Harper starts the season in San Fran.


emr - 2/15/2019 at 02:18 AM

quote:
quote:
Yes, was going to reply thanks for the post about Hank Aaron's birthday -- and how one could spend all day in a discussion nee argument about who was greater, Hank, Frank, Willie Mays, Willie Mac......
RIP Frank Robinson -- great career, great man


Robinson was probably a tad underrated for the time. Given his contemporaries I kind of get it. And he didn't exactly endear himself to a lot of people in the baseball world.

I have had this discussion many times over the years with baseball diehards like myself about who was the best. From the guys you mentioned (and from that era) I definitely say Mays. I can't believe the Giants didn't rule the baseball world in the 60s. FOUR Hall of Famers on that team: Mays, McCovery, Cepeda, Marichal.

I find it fun to discuss who was "the best". So subjective. Even at a particular position. My all time favorite player is George Brett. When I was a kid my friend's favorite was Mike Schmidt. We would debate about that a lot. I guess picking one over the other would be a tossup.

Kind of like deciding Machado or Harper.



emr - 2/15/2019 at 02:19 AM

quote:
quote:
Yes, was going to reply thanks for the post about Hank Aaron's birthday -- and how one could spend all day in a discussion nee argument about who was greater, Hank, Frank, Willie Mays, Willie Mac......
RIP Frank Robinson -- great career, great man


Robinson was probably a tad underrated for the time. Given his contemporaries I kind of get it. And he didn't exactly endear himself to a lot of people in the baseball world.

I have had this discussion many times over the years with baseball diehards like myself about who was the best. From the guys you mentioned (and from that era) I definitely say Mays. I can't believe the Giants didn't rule the baseball world in the 60s. FOUR Hall of Famers on that team: Mays, McCovery, Cepeda, Marichal.

I find it fun to discuss who was "the best". So subjective. Even at a particular position. My all time favorite player is George Brett. When I was a kid my friend's favorite was Mike Schmidt. We would debate about that a lot. I guess picking one over the other would be a tossup.

Kind of like deciding Machado or Harper.




As a huge 60's Giant's fan I have only two things to say as to why they didn't dominate

1 - Sandy Koufax
2 - Bob Gibson


Lee - 2/15/2019 at 12:36 PM

3. Don Drysdale


emr - 2/18/2019 at 01:57 AM

quote:
3. Don Drysdale


Drysdale was a great pitcher; but Koufax and Gibson each dominated two WS during that decade. They were a league above (and yes the Giants didn't play them in the WS)


Lee - 2/18/2019 at 09:23 PM

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quote:
3. Don Drysdale


Drysdale was a great pitcher; but Koufax and Gibson each dominated two WS during that decade. They were a league above (and yes the Giants didn't play them in the WS)


Well yes, they weren't in the same league of course so they wouldn't have played in The WS. Gibson had two great WS in '67 & "68. (Also a good one in '64) I think. He won one in '67 and lost to Mickey Lolich and the Tigers in '68. Both great series. Wish I had been old enough to see him.


emr - 2/19/2019 at 06:28 PM

Still remember watching Gibson in the 1968 WS when he broke Koufax's single game K record. They flashed it on the scoreborad; Tim McCarver walked from behing the plate to point it out to Gibson. I thought Gibson was going to kill him for interrupting the game

Remember; we are talkingabout ago who pitched to a few more batters AFTER a Clement line drove fractured his leg


Lee - 2/19/2019 at 09:14 PM

Well the Machado sweepstakes is over. I didn't think anyone would get a 10-year deal, money aside. If you think about it, teams aren't paying for $30mm worth of production a year over the term of the contract. They HAVE to know they aren't going to get that on the back end.

Think Pujols and Miguel Cabrera. Juan Gonzalez another one.


Lee - 2/19/2019 at 09:17 PM

quote:
Still remember watching Gibson in the 1968 WS when he broke Koufax's single game K record. They flashed it on the scoreborad; Tim McCarver walked from behing the plate to point it out to Gibson. I thought Gibson was going to kill him for interrupting the game

Remember; we are talkingabout ago who pitched to a few more batters AFTER a Clement line drove fractured his leg


McCarver has some funny stories about him trying to go to the mound when Gibson was pitching. Gibby wanted no part of the catcher coming out to see him.


Lee - 2/19/2019 at 09:43 PM

RIP Don Newcombe, age 92.


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/don-newcombe-brooklyn-dodgers-pitching -sensation-dies-age-92-n973261


emr - 2/20/2019 at 02:26 AM

quote:
quote:
Still remember watching Gibson in the 1968 WS when he broke Koufax's single game K record. They flashed it on the scoreborad; Tim McCarver walked from behing the plate to point it out to Gibson. I thought Gibson was going to kill him for interrupting the game

Remember; we are talkingabout ago who pitched to a few more batters AFTER a Clement line drove fractured his leg


McCarver has some funny stories about him trying to go to the mound when Gibson was pitching. Gibby wanted no part of the catcher coming out to see him.


One time McCarver went out to the mound and Gibson told him to leave; that the only thing he knew about good pitching waas that he couldn't hit it.

My favorite Gibby quote is from Dusty Baker:

“(Hank Aaron told me) ‘Don’t dig in against Bob Gibson, he’ll knock you down. He’d knock down his own grandmother if she dared to challenge him. Don’t stare at him, don’t smile at him, don’t talk to him. He doesn’t like it. If you happen to hit a home run, don’t run too slow, don’t run too fast. If you happen to want to celebrate, get in the tunnel first. And if he hits you, don’t charge the mound, because he’s a Gold Glove boxer.’ I’m like, ‘Damn, what about my 17-game hitting streak?’ That was the night it ended.”
—Dusty Baker


dzobo - 2/26/2019 at 11:12 PM

Here's a listing from Bleacher Report of the Top 30 Most Feared Pitchers of all time.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/986713-30-most-feared-pitchers-of-all-t ime#slide1
Of course Gibson is #1. Even scarier for Willie Mays was when Gibson once visited his home and Mays saw that Gibson was wearing glasses. Mays comment to Gibson, "You're gonna kill some one out there."

[Edited on 2/26/2019 by dzobo]


dzobo - 2/26/2019 at 11:35 PM

Rare gem that I recently ran across. Complete TV broadcast of the dramatic seventh game of the tightly contested 1952 World Series between the Yankees and the Brooklyn Dodgers from Ebbets Field in Brooklyn. Call is by Mel Allen and Red Barber. All Star performers include Jackie Robinson, Roy Campanella, Duke Snider and PeeWee Reese for the Dodgers and Mickey Mantle, Yogi Berra, Johnny Mize and Phil Rizutto for the Yankees. Billy Martin is the Yankees second baseman and makes the critical defensive play of the series. Amazing once again to see an era where power hitters deliberately go to the opposite field to knock in a run (Mize) and for one to even lay down a bunt single (Campanella). A twenty year old Mickey Mantle hits his second World Series homer (the first occurring the previous day). Great stuff for a true lover of the game. Jackie Robinson has some nasty at bats and creates a bit of havoc on the bases in one of the very few times he can be seen performing throughout an entire game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqZnPQnxO9U&t=9599s

If you don't have the time to watch here is the boxscore and play by play listing. Not much happens during the first three innings.

https://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1952/B10070BRO1952.htm


Lee - 2/27/2019 at 06:20 PM

quote:
Here's a listing from Bleacher Report of the Top 30 Most Feared Pitchers of all time.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/986713-30-most-feared-pitchers-of-all-t ime#slide1
Of course Gibson is #1. Even scarier for Willie Mays was when Gibson once visited his home and Mays saw that Gibson was wearing glasses. Mays comment to Gibson, "You're gonna kill some one out there."

[Edited on 2/26/2019 by dzobo]


What I found interesting about this article was what the writer omitted. I thought this article meant that it was about being scared to step into the batter's box against the pitcher, not a pitcher you couldn't hit.

The first one that caught my eye was Marichal. How could he leave this out?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffTxD3EJawY

Funny thing to me about this is the fact that I think they became friends afterwords. And I liked how Koufax was right in the mix of this.

Nobody worried about Gaylord Perry.

Sabathia? Really? Who's scared of him?

Carl Mays wasn't an imposing player. He unfortunately just hit a guy in the head before they wore helmets.

Steve Carlton's nickname was "Lefty". What's scary about that?

Bob Feller. He left out his nickname "Rapid Robert".

Sandy Koufax. He seems to have missed the fact that Koufax was so wild he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn when he came up.

Sal Maglie. His nickname was "The Barber" because he threw so close to hitters.

I'll give him Bob Gibson.

Guess I am nitpicking but just my thoughts.









emr - 2/27/2019 at 09:25 PM

2- marichals attack on roseboro probably cost the giants a ws appearance that year

2- you miss the significance of Carlton. Nickname. There were a whole bunch of lefthanders but only on lefty. Kind of like calling Steven curry trey. Carlton May have had the best slider of all time. His martial arts workouts ( including doing workouts immersed in rice) were legendary and kept him injury free into his 40s were legendary

3- Nolan Ryan wasn’t human. No other explanation. By far not the greatest pitcher but a cyborg


Lee - 2/28/2019 at 03:39 PM

quote:


2- you miss the significance of Carlton. Nickname. There were a whole bunch of lefthanders but only on lefty. Kind of like calling Steven curry trey. Carlton May have had the best slider of all time. His martial arts workouts ( including doing workouts immersed in rice) were legendary and kept him injury free into his 40s were legendary




My point. Nobody was afraid of getting hit by him. Mostly what he threw was a nasty curve ball. I thought the article was about having to step into the batter's box against someone you might be afraid of.

Even Ryan like you said. As hard as he threw, he still had good off speed pitches.

Maddux is another one. He didn't throw that hard but he had such great control. Boy was he great in the early and mid 90s.


StratDal - 2/28/2019 at 04:13 PM

Go Giants!


Lee - 2/28/2019 at 09:42 PM

Harper to the Phils for 13 years and no opt out clauses. Wow! Glad I'm not a Philly fan. I just don't think he's worth it.


dzobo - 2/28/2019 at 09:44 PM

Large humans wearing eyeglasses while pitching always seemed scary and intimidating. Ryne Duren is properly noted, particularly as he was so wild. The other one that comes to mind is Dodger reliever Eric Gagne, particularly after learning that he was also 'roided up.


Lee - 3/7/2019 at 08:56 PM

The over / unders are out. My two teams are Cubs 88.5 and the Tiggers 68.5.


I'm taking the over on both. Can the Tiggers be THAT bad???


Stephen - 3/8/2019 at 12:22 AM

Perhaps Miggy will come back strong and key an improved Tigers team
Sad news about Tom Seaver tho -- his dementia will keep him from participating in this summer's 50th anniversary of the Mets' "Ya Gotta Believe" World Series team -- watta hurler


Sang - 3/8/2019 at 05:23 AM

quote:
The over / unders are out. My two teams are Cubs 88.5 and the Tiggers 68.5.


I'm taking the over on both. Can the Tiggers be THAT bad???




Let's hope so ................


Lee - 3/8/2019 at 12:14 PM

quote:
quote:
The over / unders are out. My two teams are Cubs 88.5 and the Tiggers 68.5.


I'm taking the over on both. Can the Tiggers be THAT bad???




Let's hope so ................



You want the Cubs to win about 90 games?


Lee - 3/8/2019 at 12:39 PM

quote:
Perhaps Miggy will come back strong and key an improved Tigers team
Sad news about Tom Seaver tho -- his dementia will keep him from participating in this summer's 50th anniversary of the Mets' "Ya Gotta Believe" World Series team -- watta hurler


Improved? The Tiggers? They are a mess. If you fielded a team of guys they have cut loose the last several years, you'd have a good team. Granderson, Verlander, Kyle Farnsworth, Porcello, Scherzer (well, that was on him), Fielder, Kinsler, J.D. Martinez! Heck, they even got rid of their GM, Dombrowski.


And yes indeed the news about Seaver is sad. I'm too young to know him on the Mets. I remember him on The Big Red Machine in Cincy.


Stephen - 3/9/2019 at 04:32 AM

You just can't make this stuff up --
__________________________________
Los Angeles Dodgers manager Dave Roberts said RHP Joe Kelly, who was scratched from his scheduled appearance Wednesday night, will throw lightly on Friday and hopes to get in a game in a couple of days.

Kelly felt tightness in his back on Wednesday. Roberts said Kelly told him he hurt his back when he stood too long cooking Cajun food.
__________________
Joe's a great pitcher but Jesus -- who would want to be known for getting injured in That fashion anyway -- a back strain from cooking Cajun food -- once again, MLB pitchers..........unbelievable


Lee - 3/9/2019 at 12:03 PM

There are other pretty funny stories along those lines. One guy got hurt carrying dog food in his driveway. I think one hurt his back while sneezing. And didn't Kershaw say he hurt his back because the Dodgers had to fly back from Australia a few years ago? Flight was too long and he tightened up or something.


emr - 3/9/2019 at 05:38 PM

When a back is ready to go it goes. I had surgery 15 years ago. Sure it was from years of sports; yet the final straw was twisting doing a minor task

kind of feel silly at PT when the guys around you are saying "I got hurt sacking the QB" while you are saying "I waas putting up curtains"


Lee - 3/17/2019 at 07:45 PM

I bet on two teams to win the A.L. Central. Cleveland should win it of course but I liked the odds on The White Sux and The Tiggers. Sux are 75-1 and Detroit is 250-1. Highly doubt either will win it (especially Detroit) but what the hell? Couple bucks on each.


Lee - 3/24/2019 at 01:25 PM

If you can find it / order it wherever you live, The Chicago Tribune has a really cool baseball preview in today's Sunday paper. It's worth the cost of the paper by itself. They digest every team and the leagues. Granted there are tilts toward the Flubs and the White Sux but it is still cool. Better than paying $15 or $20 on one of those spring training magazines that are on every newsstand.


emr - 3/24/2019 at 05:55 PM

Madison Bumgarner gave up something like 10 hits and 7 runs in two inning the other day. I think my Giants are in trouble


Lee - 3/28/2019 at 08:32 PM

Well, Opening Day is here. I like the Yankees and the Dodgers. And I think the Cubs are kind of being sold short.


alloak41 - 4/1/2019 at 07:37 PM

Well, my two teams (Braves and Astros) are out of the gate 1-6. Great start, guys. I'm just glad the season is underway, and the best news is our cable package at work includes the MLB Nework!


porkchopbob - 4/1/2019 at 09:27 PM

Brewers took it to the Cards and Yelich continues his tear. Hope they keep it up.


Stephen - 4/2/2019 at 02:39 AM

Balt's pitcher was sailing along w/a no hitter -- 8 K's, 1BB thru 6 1/3
& gets pulled
the manager was worried about him getting hurt, article said
so he pulls him, & the other team comes back & almost wins
this is where MLB has gone down the toilet for me -- but also realize am a minority of one on this & know that concern for the safety, health, physical and mental well-being of the players at any cost, is accepted as more important than a no-hitter or winning a game


[Edited on 4/2/2019 by Stephen]


Lee - 4/2/2019 at 12:41 PM

quote:
Balt's pitcher was sailing along w/a no hitter -- 8 K's, 1BB thru 6 1/3
& gets pulled
the manager was worried about him getting hurt, article said
so he pulls him, & the other team comes back & almost wins
this is where MLB has gone down the toilet for me -- but also realize am a minority of one on this & know that concern for the safety and health of the players is accepted as more important than a no-hitter or winning a game in today's MLB

[Edited on 4/2/2019 by Stephen]



I read an article that said the decision to pull the guy wasn't the manager's, it was the front office but it didn't name names. And he only threw 82 pitches.

This isn't THAT unique. I recall it happening a handful of times. I think the Dodgers (I believe it was them) used four pitchers once to throw a no hitter.

[Edited on 4/2/2019 by Lee]


Stephen - 4/2/2019 at 04:32 PM

Yeah it could be anything, espn account said manager wanted to take no chances -- yes probably off field pressure from upstairs too
...to allow no chance for the kid to shine & to show all he had to be babied outta the game

as a fan I come from the era when giving a pitcher the hook for no reason, but esPEcially when he had a no-no going & was at the top of his game, was not only never, Ever EVER considered, but would've been considered a fixed game -- letting the other team back in it by removing your top pitcher for a bunch of ham n eggers when he had a no hitter going
because he might get hurt....
it's lunacy, but times change

Let's Go Sox!! it'll be as fun a year as the last several have been (well less the Bobby Valentine year )

Ups to Dustin Pedroia, he's willing to take the bus trips & non 5 star hotels, to try to get back to the majors -- he's starting out in Single-A Greenville --
athletes like Dustin, Isaiah Thomas -- diminutive warriors who still think they can return to past form, and who's to say they won't -- those pint-sized packages of athletic dynamite have left it all out there

was real nice the long loud round of applause for IT when Denver was in town last week -- JumboTron played his all world highlights & IT knew he had the love....

fun season ahead, your Cubs/Tigers etc are poised, so are Sox despite slow start


[Edited on 4/2/2019 by Stephen]


Lee - 4/2/2019 at 05:23 PM

You are absolutely correct about times changing. Look at how starters are only expected to throw five or six innings. I'll bet old timers like Marichal, Bob Gibson, Lolich, etc think it's crazy today. It used to be an insult to get pulled.


emr - 4/2/2019 at 08:26 PM

quote:
You are absolutely correct about times changing. Look at how starters are only expected to throw five or six innings. I'll bet old timers like Marichal, Bob Gibson, Lolich, etc think it's crazy today. It used to be an insult to get pulled.


There was a game in the early 60's where a young Marichal and an Old Spahn each went 16 innings (Mays homered for the only run) At some point in time the Giant's manager went to pull Juan who uttered: "I'm not coming out of the game as long as that f**ng old man is still pitching."

Crazy thing no is because of the speed of the fastballs and the torque of the sliders they get injured more anyway now. I think muscles have been strengthened through legal (exercise) and illegal (steroids; PED) to the point where the tendons and ligaments cant handle it


Lee - 4/5/2019 at 08:34 PM

Well my Tiggers are off to a surprisingly good start even though they went three straight games and only scored like two runs.

The Flubs are a different story. They are inventing new ways to lose. They made six, yes SIX errors the other day. No pun intended, but it is a comedy of errors.


porkchopbob - 4/5/2019 at 09:02 PM

quote:
The Flubs are a different story. They are inventing new ways to lose. They made six, yes SIX errors the other day. No pun intended, but it is a comedy of errors.


Hopefully they keep it up against the Brewers this week!


porkchopbob - 4/5/2019 at 09:06 PM

Speaking of the Cyclones, Coney Island is one of the BEST places to catch a game. I used to spend the day a the beach, head over to Ruby's or ChaCha's or maybe the Freak Bar for a beer or 2 (or 3). Grab a dog at Nathan's and sit back to watch baseball at the beach while the rides whiz by.


Lee - 4/6/2019 at 09:03 PM

quote:
Speaking of the Cyclones, Coney Island is one of the BEST places to catch a game. I used to spend the day a the beach, head over to Ruby's or ChaCha's or maybe the Freak Bar for a beer or 2 (or 3). Grab a dog at Nathan's and sit back to watch baseball at the beach while the rides whiz by.



Did you enter the hot dog eating contest?


Stephen - 4/8/2019 at 05:15 PM

Of course April 8 is one of if-not the best known of all dates
1974, & the Babe's record of 714, thought to be invincible for so long, is broken by Hank Aaron's HR off All Downing
then a year later, & Frank Robinson HRs in his first AB as player-manager of the Cleveland Indians, April 8, 1975

but gosh didn't know this one -- w/no cup, a shot like that could seriously have been fatal
April 8, 1997
In a 14-8 Mariners victory over the Indians at the Kingdome, M's pitcher Josias Manzanillo, who doesn't wear a protective cup, is hit the groin by a Manny Ramirez 107 mph line drive. Now a firm believer in the use of protective gear, the 29 year-old reliever will be put on the 15-day disabled list for surgery needed to repair a tear in his testicles.

[Edited on 4/8/2019 by Stephen]


Lee - 4/11/2019 at 08:56 PM

This is kind of funny about Yu Darvish:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/realestate/elitestreet/ct-re-elit e-street-yu-darvish-evanston-fence-lawsuit-20190410-story.html


Stephen - 4/13/2019 at 04:40 PM

Good one -- yep waterfront property owners can have their differences alright
great headline about current NYY injury woes:
"HURTY DOZEN:" Yanks add Sanchez to crowded IL

New one btw -- Clevinger of Cleveland -- sidelined w/a "strain of the TERES MAJOR"
teres major, anyone? one recalls Hanley's injury last year, a problem w/"the right trap muscle"

Let's go Sox

[Edited on 4/13/2019 by Stephen]


Lee - 4/13/2019 at 11:33 PM

So I was going through some of my baseball collection and I have a page of old ticket stubs in one of my books. These are all Tigers ones. In 1953 it cost $1.75. They raised the price to $2.00 in 1961 & 1962. Box seats went up to $6.00 in 1979.

They used to be called "The Detroit Baseball Club".


Stephen - 4/16/2019 at 10:15 PM

I love these stories -- always have -- MLB pitchers have the brains & agility of a yard goat

"Matt Snell, the reigning American League Cy Young Award winner, suffered a fractured fourth toe on his right foot when he got out of the shower and then attempted to move a large granite item."
Matt Speaks
"It's like a three-piece set and this pole that comes up like 2½, 3 feet. Went to move it, I lifted it up and it wasn't glued to the pole and the pole came crushing down."

Who will be the next hero to cut his finger on his pitching hand w/a knife in a kitchen accident
Howabout NYY -- another player has come up lame, so they've gone from the Hurty Dozen to .....
the weeny 13ny mayb?

Finally, help is on the way for Cubbies, w/comebacking Carlos Zambrano
"Former Chicago Cubs pitcher Carlos Zambrano said he thinks that he can overcome his age, his reputation and a long major league absence to make it back to the big leagues.
''Why not?'' Zambrano said Monday from Marlins Park, where the Cubs are playing this week. ''Bartolo [Colon] pitched until he was 45. I'm 37.''

SAWX

[Edited on 4/16/2019 by Stephen]


Lee - 4/17/2019 at 12:19 PM

Zambrano is going to play for the Chicago Dogs, an independent league team. I went to a game last year. It is in Rosemont, not far from O'Hare. Stephen you'll remember their manager from last year, Butch Hobson. He was the only guy on the field I had heard of. Pretty good third baseman in his day.

The day I went they had one dollar beer and hot dogs. Free shuttle to the park. Nice afternoon. Cheap entertainment.


Lee - 4/30/2019 at 08:15 PM

Watching the Yankees this spring surprises me. All those injuries and they are still just two back of the Rays. Who knows what they will look like when they get healthy.


emr - 5/1/2019 at 07:58 PM

quote:
Watching the Yankees this spring surprises me. All those injuries and they are still just two back of the Rays. Who knows what they will look like when they get healthy.
[/quote

Anyone taking the position that the injured Yanks and fumbling Bosox would be where they are know would have broken the bank in Vegas


Lee - 5/2/2019 at 07:19 PM

I dunno. As Lou Gramm used to sing with Foreigner, "It's a long, long way from home".

There's only been one month in the books so far. I must say I am impressed with Tampa though.


Stephen - 5/4/2019 at 12:06 AM

quote:
Zambrano is going to play for the Chicago Dogs, an independent league team. I went to a game last year. It is in Rosemont, not far from O'Hare. Stephen you'll remember their manager from last year, Butch Hobson. He was the only guy on the field I had heard of. Pretty good third baseman in his day.

The day I went they had one dollar beer and hot dogs. Free shuttle to the park. Nice afternoon. Cheap entertainment.



Thx the update on Butch -- wasn't too popular when he 1st joined in '77 as he was replacing beloved popular Rico Petrocelli -- had a good year tho w/30 HR, although he committed a ton of errors -- Rafael Devers is on pace, 9 so far this season after his 9th-inning coughup opened the floodgates for ChiSox last night


Stephen - 5/11/2019 at 01:05 AM

Clay is back!! he's signed up w/Tor -- is on his 1st stint on the DL w/shoulder inflammation after 24 IP this season -- a no-hitter in his 2nd big league start, who can forget that

Stephen became fastest ever to 1,500 Ks -- always figured his strikeout-to-IP ratio was real high -- due to hit DL (it's IL now, best to them) later this month

And whoa Noah! A CG?? w/a HR??? in a 1-0 win???? It's gotta be bull, but no, both Ed Kranepool and Daryl Strawberry would've been impressed

better late than never -- knew I was forgetting something, sure sign of a softening squash etc etc...
Who wlse but PABLO could do something that hasn't been done in 114 years -- stole 3rd like a speedster, hit one over the fence like Willie Mays -- & needed just 10 pitches, incl a game ending double play, in hurling like Cy Young himself -- watta guy
yeah he heard "won't you please come to Boston" which he did -- but Pablo left his heart in SF
Let's Go Sox, watta team



[Edited on 5/13/2019 by Stephen]


DanB - 5/11/2019 at 11:41 AM

yay the Braves sent AJ Minter down

his blown games have kept the Braves from 1st place


Lee - 5/15/2019 at 11:44 AM

Happy Birthday to baseball's all-time greatest player, GEORGE BRETT!


emr - 5/15/2019 at 03:47 PM

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Happy Birthday to baseball's all-time greatest player, GEORGE BRETT!


Perhaps a bit overstated; but one of the great hitters of his generation. And the only HOF batter I've ever seen who "owned" a HOF pitcher (the Goose) to the point where he could call him his b**ch.


Lee - 5/15/2019 at 07:06 PM

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Happy Birthday to baseball's all-time greatest player, GEORGE BRETT!


Perhaps a bit overstated; but one of the great hitters of his generation. And the only HOF batter I've ever seen who "owned" a HOF pitcher (the Goose) to the point where he could call him his b**ch.


Perhaps? Of course it is overstated. He is just my favorite player ever. The first time I saw him was at Tiger Stadium when I was seven or eight. Been a huge fan ever since.

And you're right; Brett owned Gossage for whatever reason. I hated the Yankees when I was a kid so it was great to see. And in the '84 World Series Kirk Gibson hit a monster home run off The Goose in game five of the World Series so that was nice too!


Stephen - 5/16/2019 at 04:26 PM

Jesus, no Altuve & they're going off like astronauts packing Colt 45s -- mid May & their div is all but sewed up
We'll bring em back to earth this wknd -- we have to, **** is already starting to get away from us -- everywhere we turn, whether on the sheet or diamond, it's TB top of the heap -- & their fans stay away in droves too
but gotta catch NY 1st, let's go Sox

[Edited on 5/16/2019 by Stephen]


Lee - 5/17/2019 at 09:32 PM

Houston is stacked. Detroit was so stupid to let Verlander get away. He just keeps getting better with age (it must be his smoking hot wife ).

Boston is turning things around and you're right about Tampa's fans. I was at a game there last year and the "fans" are iffy at best. The A.L. East should be fun. Yanks are hanging in even given all their injuries.


Stephen - 5/18/2019 at 02:11 PM

Yep Houston is good for sure -- thankfully they don't have Don Nottebart tho -- his name came up a day or 2 ago -- threw his 1962 no-hitter around this time for the brand-new Colt 45s

Cubbies are off to a solid start -- Tygiz not so much, but it's good to see Miguel Cabrera back & hitting well -- he & Victor Martinez are amazing, wish more players had their hard-nosed attitude

yeah it's early, but these next 2 w/Astros would be important to get, so let's go Sox -- JBJ & Steve Pearce will heat up


Lee - 5/22/2019 at 10:06 PM

The Tigers suck.


DanB - 5/26/2019 at 12:38 PM

The Braves have the worst bullpen in the majors. Blown 9 games in 22 saves chances.


Lee - 5/26/2019 at 02:15 PM

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The Braves have the worst bullpen in the majors. Blown 9 games in 22 saves chances.


Cubs are hit or miss as well.


Jerry - 5/26/2019 at 02:57 PM

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The Braves have the worst bullpen in the majors. Blown 9 games in 22 saves chances.


The other night they blew a big lead in the 9th inning. Venters struck out the first two with ease, then went blind and couldn't find the plate, much less the strike zone.


Lee - 5/27/2019 at 06:26 PM

So sad that we just lost Bill Buckner. Great player.


Stephen - 5/27/2019 at 07:38 PM

Sure was, great career w/Cubs, hit .299 w/16 HR & 118 RBI his first year with Sox in '85,
18 HR, over 100 RBI in 86, when we won the pennant -- BA dipped a little that year, to .267
RIP Bill Buckner


Lee - 5/28/2019 at 08:11 PM

I was very impressed with the Sox fans in 2008 I think it was. Their fans can be tough but they gave him a standing O. Very classy. I think he had been back there once before that and they were nice to him.

I believe he had to move away because of all the crap he and his family took. I think that is silly. You made an error; not the end of the world.


Stephen - 5/28/2019 at 08:32 PM

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Jesus, no Altuve & they're going off like astronauts packing Colt 45s -- mid May & their div is all but sewed up



Nope -- wrong div
what is it w/the Oakland A's -- they're awesome, upper echelon almost year in & year out & always w/among the smallest payrolls in MLB -- they've won 10 straight & have unsewed Houston's lead

But no, it's not that division, it's the Central -- & the Twins who, just a year after the retirement of all time player Joe Mauer, are atop the heap, both leagues, under 1st year manager Rocco Baldelli, the youngest skipper in the majors -- they do indeed have it all but sewed up -- as of right now

We're In NY This Wknd
we enjoy the adulation, everywhere we go, of 2018 -- but we gotta get down to business pretty soon -- we're fine, but NY will only get better -- Houston 2 times took 2 of 3 from us recently -- we have to reverse that this weekend in the Big Bronx of NY, so let's go Sox

feelin for what Dustin Pedrioia is going thru -- with good play still in him, his knee has failed this great player
Brock Holt will soon be back from one of his countless injuries -- when uninjured, he's a key player


Stephen - 5/29/2019 at 02:45 PM

It shows how misleading stats can be -- look at Wash, the Scherzer/Stephen tandem, to the Max (1-2) in the NL in strikeouts, & a third, Patrick Corbin, fourth -- but the Harper-less Nats are napping

or KC -- w/their speed alone you'd think......Mondesi/Merrifield 1-2 in triples, Dozier also right there -- Raul Mondesi Jr. tops in SB, & Royales also now have former Cincy speedster Billy Hamilton burning AL basepaths .... but Royales .... good run that's it, I guess

It Was Good Pitch Good Hit Until 9th-Inning Barfup Last Night -- not good to let that one get away, a CG from David would've gotten it done, he was good -- urgency has to start now, everything points to NY pulling away, especially when we cough up games -- we don't have the Cole/Verlander (1-2 in Ks overall) 1-2 punch Houston has

but we do have, on paper, a rotation that should be able do again this year what it did last year -- Chris, David & Eduardo along with Rick is solid -- we go Now, Sox

ChiSox didn't release name of that blonde hitting photog w/the 1st pitch last night -- photog might well have gotten a little bit mo' than 1B outta that HBP, it looked like to me


Lee - 5/29/2019 at 03:50 PM

That opening pitch was hilarious. Right in the face. The girl was employee of the month or something.


DanB - 6/1/2019 at 11:21 AM

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That opening pitch was hilarious. Right in the face. The girl was employee of the month or something.


maybe balls to the face are her thang


Stephen - 6/7/2019 at 09:21 PM

A ball to the nutbag is about as foul as it gets -- feel for Haniger of Mariners ("ruptured testicle") -- that's gotta be awful


Lee - 6/10/2019 at 06:20 PM

Not a David Ortiz fan at all but I sure hope he is going to be okay. I think it'll be interesting when the dust settles if that guy that shot him singled him out for whatever reason. And good for the crowd that subdued the guy that did it. Bastard.


emr - 6/10/2019 at 06:37 PM

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Not a David Ortiz fan at all but I sure hope he is going to be okay. I think it'll be interesting when the dust settles if that guy that shot him singled him out for whatever reason. And good for the crowd that subdued the guy that did it. Bastard.



TheDR seems like it has become a very dangerous place. Lots of tourist incidents. As they used to say on Hill Street blues : "Be careful out there"


leafsfan - 6/11/2019 at 05:54 PM

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Happy Birthday to baseball's all-time greatest player, GEORGE BRETT!


Saw him destroy the Jays dreams in 1985.

Never knew until last year that he was a hockey fan, he owns the WHL Hockey Spokane Chiefs Owner and owns 3-4 minor league ball clubs in the west as well.

Like to meet him one day.


Stephen - 6/15/2019 at 04:01 PM

Whoa, it's not just Noah (88 K's)
Zack Wheeler and Jacob deGrom give the Mets top 5-caliber heat while fanning everyone in sight

but still in all, in this, the 50th year of their Miracle 1969 season, they're not making anyone forget Tom Seaver, Jerry Koosman or rookie fireballer Nolan Ryan -- Mets are languishing

Tom has retired from public life to battle the dementia diagnosed 2-3 years ago -- if an occasion is held to honor the team, he should in abstentia get the loudest applause of all -- or maybe a visit, if able, would be beneficial

He played briefly for the Sox in '86 & pitched a perfect game w/Reds & was one of the terrifics of all time

Buckle down must begin now -- NYY's huge sluggers are ready to return w/their thunderous bats -- so let's go Sox


DanB - 6/16/2019 at 12:35 PM

well the Braves bullpen blew their 10th game last night

they could be running away with the division


Stephen - 6/18/2019 at 04:58 PM

It's an Effin Bummer when they're pitching for Phils/ChiSox
Pitching they are tho, Effin tonite as Bryce Harper returns to Wash DC
& Bummer bullpen as ChiSox take over Wrigley Field for the Windy City World Series

It's not just NY
W/out Altuve, Correia and Springer, Astros still soaring like Astro & the Jetsons -- it's space age stuff, esp Correia's injury

spoke too soon before on Clay -- got in 24 IP this season w/Tor -- who knows if he'll be back -- it's the same as always, they're saying shoulder w/out offering specifics/notimetable on return yadada
After 10 weeks, Clevinger of Cleveland has returned from his teres major injury -- Tony Cloninger he's not

3 divisions are wrapped up (Hou down to 8.5 games) -- 1 of those is MN, & to get 7 straight, we gotta have 7 strong tonight from David -- matching what Rick did last night -- let's go Sox

They've had great careers -- Dustin Pedroia & King Felix -- Felix' most recent Triple A start was not good
but credit to them -- fabulously wealthy, it's the pure athlete in them at this late stage of their careers that wants to go out of the game & teams they love on their terms -- same w/Clay Buchholz as well, less teams

Great name for an Omaha team, the Storm Chasers -- saw a good one recently (may have already been mentioned)
the Scottsdale Jr. College Fighting Artichokes
Dirtbags still my fave, Yard Goats close 2nd


[Edited on 6/19/2019 by Stephen]


Lee - 6/22/2019 at 10:31 AM

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3 divisions are wrapped up (Hou down to 8.5 games) -- 1 of those is MN, & to get 7 straight, we gotta have 7 strong tonight from David -- matching what Rick did last night -- let's go Sox



[Edited on 6/19/2019 by Stephen]


No offense but how can you say three divisions are wrapped up in June? A.L & N.L West. Kind of looks that way. That's two. If you are including the A.L. Central: perhaps. Not sure I trust the Twins to go that far but maybe.

Again, it's still June.


Stephen - 6/22/2019 at 02:52 PM

Ya I call em a wrap -- Dodgiz, look at em go -- yep their much ballyhooed "prized hitting guru" Robert Van Scoyoc -- he's proved up to his advance billing -- just ask Cody Bellinger, did he ever see the light or what -- near-Triple Crown pace

ya still early -- Cubs will be all set when Craig K arrives --
Bauer & Bieber, watta tandem, can't say it qwik, top 5 for Tribe in whiffs -- yep mayb Indians can make a run
same Tex & their Lynn/Minor strikeout stars -- but no Adrian Beltre, no go

it's all just slicing the baloney in cyberspace btw -- am just a fan, slingin the hash one mite say -- Yastrzemski, for instance -- yep it's back in the box scores, for SF (Carl's grandson)

get back soon Rafael Devers, he was goin great -- veteran lefty Johnson this aftrn, Rick tmrw -- no news is good news on Big Papi, probly vice versa re Dustin


emr - 6/26/2019 at 03:09 PM

Two quick comments

1 - Max Scherzer is a generational talent

2 - Clayton Kershaw seems to have settled into a decent groove at 75% of what he was, Really good pitcher but not what he was. Has enough past to be a lock for the HOF (unlike Don Mattingly whose back took him down further and faster)


Lee - 6/26/2019 at 07:00 PM

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Two quick comments

1 - Max Scherzer is a generational talent

2 - Clayton Kershaw seems to have settled into a decent groove at 75% of what he was, Really good pitcher but not what he was. Has enough past to be a lock for the HOF (unlike Don Mattingly whose back took him down further and faster)




On your point number two I have to respectfully disagree on both points. Kershaw is a good pitcher (how he gets away with balking all the time with that delivery I don't know) but I wouldn't call him a lock. I would say marginal but that's just my opinion.

I really disagree about Mattingly. His stats are really close to Puckett, who got in. And both of them didn't have long careers. You are totally correct about Mattingly's back. That's a shame. He was so dominant.

On another note, there's another guy that played for the Twins who could arguably be in The HOF. Tony Oliva in the 60s. Great stats but had a short career so he isn't in. I don't really care if he's in The Hall but I can see longtime Twins fans thinking he should be in. But he did kind of play in the shadow of Killebrew and then Carew.


emr - 6/26/2019 at 10:19 PM

Kershaw has 3 mvp 5 era titles (record 4 in a row) despite choking in the playoffs I think a few ok seasons no doubt he’s a lock

Puckett has a short but consistent career. That and post season got him in

No one was a bigger Mattingly fan than me. He just had too few years at top function. Same with Olivia. I saw him play. With modern knee surgery he’s be in HOF
Speaking of knees Manyle played his whole career with one dead knee. 1/3 to 1/2 with two dead knees. We can only imagine


Lee - 6/27/2019 at 09:49 PM

Regarding knees, I am going through my own problems at the moment as I played ball for a few decades. But what some of those guys went through is something. Especially with artificial turf too. I do have to give MLB credit. Teams were smart enough to move guys to first base. How many guys were moved to first base? Mantle, Kaline, etc. Heck the Cubs moved Ernie Banks when he was quite young.


emr - 6/28/2019 at 04:18 PM

Had arthroscopic knee surgery 20 years ago; back surgery 15 years ago. Pretty much down to swimming;biking; elliptical to put off further injuries/surgeries

Yeah first base (and now DH) are career savers for big hitters. I remember when Orlando Cepeda ended his career with the Red Sox he'd ride a stationary bike between at bats to stay limber.

But orthopedics is a different world now. Smokey Joe Wood's fabled "dead arm" probably just needed Tommy John Surgery. When Babe Ruth had knee surgery it was an open wound and they basically took out all his cartlidge to unlock a "trick knee" Mantle's injury in the 51 series was almost undoubtedly an ACL; MCL and medial meniscus triad. That would be fixed now.

It's a whole new ballgame


Lee - 7/5/2019 at 11:47 AM

Nice day for Independence Day baseball yesterday. 'tis all American. I bopped in and out watching a few games. Cubs actually won a game. And my Tiggers won a game (shock). We were going to go to one of the Tiggers/Sux games this week but the one we were going to go to was rained out.

But yesterday:

Flubs win.
Tiggers win.
White Sux lose.

Nice day!



Lee - 7/6/2019 at 08:53 PM

On the way to the south side of Chicago to see the Flubs / White Sux game. Gooooooooooooooooooooo Flubs!


Gotta like free food and beer!


Stephen - 7/9/2019 at 04:48 PM

Andrew Cashner (9-3) is on pace to be to lowly-O's in 2019, what Lefty Carlton was to Phils in 1972

you were right Lee, was premature to call it sewed up, Tribe is W6 and has closed the gap to 5 1/2 games in Centl -- Dodgiz have NL West sewed up tho -- Houstros 7 1/2 up

in their 1st year after the retirement of manager/all time Angel Mike Sciosia, LAA floundering at .500 -- Mike Yastrzemski, Pablo Sandoval & SF poised to escape cellar 2nd half

Overtaking TB Is The Priority -- Mitch Moreland & Steve Pearce need to show up 2nd 1/2 of season -- same Steven Wright -- NY is a real juggernaut this season

BOSTON RED SOX

[Edited on 7/9/2019 by Stephen]


Lee - 7/9/2019 at 05:02 PM

Anyone looking forward to tonight's All Star Game? I was watching The MLB Network and they were showing highlights from early 90s games which was neat. A lot of great players (and future HOFers) played in those games.

Today? Eh for me. Not too many of today's game really excite me which is unfortunate. Will still watch some of it. Going to be muted so I don't have to listen to the annoyance of Joe Buck.


Stephen - 7/11/2019 at 04:18 PM

They never did say what that pitcher for LAA, Tyler Skaggs, died of --
RIP Jim Bouton, still recall the cap flying off his head during his followthrough
David Ortiz is still laid up & had to have another surgery yesterday
we start 2nd half w/LAD visit -- we'll show em, nothing's changed from last fall -- let's go Sox


Lee - 7/12/2019 at 10:46 AM

I don't understand why the cause of Skaggs death hasn't been revealed. I have a feeling there is something that someone doesn't want disclosed.

Bouton was quite the character. I've read a ton of baseball books and his was one of the best. I read it at a young age and even then I thought it was hilarious. Wasn't so much a baseball book though. More comical. He did kind of break an unwritten code about talking about things that you just didn't say. However, it was no secret what some of the Yankees did back then.

I thought his second book kind of sucked.


oldcoot - 7/14/2019 at 04:05 PM

Really disappointing news about Bob Gibson. Wish him the best.


Jerry - 7/14/2019 at 07:45 PM

Braves are now over .600


Jerry - 7/15/2019 at 04:02 AM

Braves win again, now at .609 5th highest in MLB and 2nd in NL


Jerry - 7/16/2019 at 06:14 PM

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They never did say what that pitcher for LAA, Tyler Skaggs, died of --
RIP Jim Bouton, still recall the cap flying off his head during his followthrough
David Ortiz is still laid up & had to have another surgery yesterday
we start 2nd half w/LAD visit -- we'll show em, nothing's changed from last fall -- let's go Sox


it's reported that the autopsy has been finished, but the cause and manner of death is waiting results of a toxicology report that is expected to be completed by October2.

The conspiracy theorists are already having fits over what might have caused his death.


porkchopbob - 7/17/2019 at 02:35 PM

Crew have a mini-slump, can't afford that in such a tight division. Hopefully last night's thrashing of the Braves continues.

Yankees quietly have the 2nd best record in MLB, even down a few starters and a shaky rotation.


Lee - 7/17/2019 at 05:37 PM

What does the Crew mean?


porkchopbob - 7/17/2019 at 05:49 PM

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What does the Crew mean?


Brew Crew duh


Stephen - 7/17/2019 at 05:54 PM

The Brew Crew (Brewiz)
Our bullpen has had a few too many brews lately -- or maybe they need to quaff down a few more

We sign all these great pitchers like Sale, Price, Porcello, ERod, Cashner etc -- who then hand the ball off to a shaky-at-best bullpen

We need CGs from those starters, also Wright and Eovaldi when/if they return -- yes I know, it won't happen -- neither will our chances at the rate we've been going -- let's go Sox



[Edited on 7/17/2019 by Stephen]


Lee - 7/17/2019 at 06:23 PM

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quote:
What does the Crew mean?


Brew Crew duh



Do you mean the Milwaukee Brewers of the National League Central Division, formerly in the American League East Division?

Duh.


porkchopbob - 7/17/2019 at 06:36 PM

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quote:
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What does the Crew mean?

Brew Crew duh

Do you mean the Milwaukee Brewers of the National League Central Division, formerly in the American League East Division?

and technically once of the AL West for their season as the Seattle Pilots. Glad we could bring you up to speed.


Lee - 7/17/2019 at 07:53 PM

I'm not a Brewers fan. And I could have brought up the 1969 season but didn't. I think that might have been a one time only thing when a team moves after only one year at a location. I want to say Lou Piniella was on that team.

Just to get up to speed.


porkchopbob - 7/17/2019 at 08:03 PM

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I'm not a Brewers fan. And I could have brought up the 1969 season but didn't. I think that might have been a one time only thing when a team moves after only one year at a location. I want to say Lou Piniella was on that team.

Well, jolly for you. I'm not a Pirates fan but I know people call them "The Buccos". And close - Piniella was drafted by the Pilots in the expansion draft but was traded before the season started.

Actually, the Baltimore Orioles spent their first season in 1901 in Milwaukee as The Milwaukee Brewers.


Lee - 7/17/2019 at 08:08 PM

Jolly for you? Are you British?

And I think you are right about Piniella. Forgot about it. I thought Bouton might have had something to do with all that but I could be wrong.


Stephen - 7/17/2019 at 11:51 PM

RIP, Pumpsie Green


Lee - 7/18/2019 at 11:56 AM

Yeah I saw that. I think the Red Sux were the last team in MLB to have an African American player. It could have been him, I don't recall.


Stephen - 7/18/2019 at 10:37 PM

It's one of the great occurrences in bball history, 20 years ago on this day
"On Yogi Berra Day at Yankee Stadium, David Cone becomes the 16th pitcher in major league history and the third Yankee to toss a perfect game when he beats the Expos, 6-0. In pregame ceremonies, Don Larsen threw out the ceremonial first pitch to Yogi, commemorating his 1956 World Series perfect game."

It's not rocket science, we need to crush the lowly-O's w/offense this wknd to keep our bullpen out of the game -- Chris was good today -- let's go Sox


Sang - 7/18/2019 at 10:49 PM

Ernie Broglio died ... I was a big fan when he was with the Cardinals, and an even bigger fan when the Cardinals got Lou Brock for him and he flamed out with the Cubs...... he always had a great sense of humor about the trade... RIP Ernie!


Lee - 7/19/2019 at 11:29 AM

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It's one of the great occurrences in bball history, 20 years ago on this day
"On Yogi Berra Day at Yankee Stadium, David Cone becomes the 16th pitcher in major league history and the third Yankee to toss a perfect game when he beats the Expos, 6-0. In pregame ceremonies, Don Larsen threw out the ceremonial first pitch to Yogi, commemorating his 1956 World Series perfect game."



I don't recall the circumstances but that is pretty cool. I remember Cone dropping to his knees.

Speaking of perfect games, I really think it is odd that so few of them were thrown. Perhaps one of the most difficult things to do in sports.


Lee - 7/19/2019 at 11:42 AM

Speaking of perfect games, there are two Detroit Tigger almost ones.

In 1983 Milt Wilcox was one out away from throwing one against the White Sox. I was a kid watching it at home when Jerry Hairston hit one up the middle with two out in the ninth. I almost cried.

In 2010 Armando Galarraga had one all locked up with two outs in the ninth and a play at first. Galarraga covers the bag, the guy is out, right? Nope. Umpire Jim Joyce calls the runner safe. He was kind of obviously out. Lost his perfect game.

The next day Joyce was the home plate ump. Galarraga brings out the lineup card and he and Joyce had a nice embrace. Joyce felt horrible but at the time there was nothing that could be done about it.


Stephen - 7/19/2019 at 02:55 PM

NY has pulled into a tie overall w/LA -- we won't catch them, but overtaking TB is a must for Sox -- it's getting crowded at the top, MN & Hou are still right there, we're not, & the WC seems the only way right now -- Chief Wahoo & Tribe are way ahead of us, also Oak

Chris was sharp in his alloted IPs last nite, we need that caliber of pitching, & for the offense do everything in its power to render the bullpen unnecessary, a non factor & outta close games whenevr psbl

THERE IT IS -- it's almost the deepest he's ever gone into a season uninjured, now a monster has awoken in STEPHEN -- 1st NL P to 12 games, top 5 as usual in K's, & if he makes it the rest of the way -- w/all the rest/rehab stored up in his body over the course of his career -- who knows what Stephen could have in store

WHEN HE ISN'T BELTING THE BALL OVER THE FENCE -- did you see that -- look out NL, slugging Stephen & the Sens are poised to rampage to East div title -- Max possibly might return Sunday they're saying

Ups to MadBum too, he went 9 last nite -- good one 2nite in Texas w/Mike Minor v Justin Verlander, both top 5-7 in most categories

BOSTON RED SOX

[Edited on 7/21/2019 by Stephen]


Stephen - 7/24/2019 at 05:41 PM

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THERE IT IS


Yep, the monster is loose -- another hit to help his own cause, & where German of NY failed to get #13, STEPHEN is 1st to 13 wins -- the guy is an automaton -- the line he put up -- 6 IP, 3 hits, 9 K's -- he's posted throughout his career, with just the slightest variation -- rw/Max back Thurs, Wash will go on a streak similar to SF's

"Mike Yastrzemski, Pablo Sandoval & SF poised to escape cellar 2nd half"
DAMN I'm good -- 17 of 20, Cueto possibly back down the stretch, & Giants have barged into 2nd place & the WC picture

NY is in this wknd --
Last nite was just another example -- Chris was good, scrubs come in, give up 3 walks, 2 hits & a run in the 9th -- luckily we escape w/the bases loaded 5-4, after a few more heart attacks/gray hairs

it's 3-2 in the 5th right now in aftrn matinee -- both teams are 10 games over .500 & 10 GB NY --
if it's that score in crunch time....
time was when your top pitchers would finish a close crucial game, Esp with a bullpen full of pyros & a sweep at stake
...that's another era tho, so let's go Sox


[Edited on 7/26/2019 by Stephen]


Stephen - 7/26/2019 at 05:43 PM

NY & LA still tied for 1st at 30 games over, & Dodgiz-Wash is a big wknd series --
it pales to ours -- WS champions vs team sporting best record in baseball in top rivalry in sports
the pitching can't be topped in the other series tho -- Stephen, Scherzer & Corbin vs Ryu, Clayton & Walker Buehler

He went all 9 innings, & ups to Bieber of Cleveland, a 1-hitter Wed nite -- best pitching since Noah blasted an HR in his 1-0 complete-gamer in May -- but whoa, Mets are actively shopping Noah, according to espn

Troy Tulowitski retired, guessing Dustin & Felix Hernandez will too b4 end of season

We may have blown all our offense last night -- so a good time for Andrew Cashner to emulate Bieber/Noah & pitch lights out 2nite -- he's been lit up his 1st 2 starts
3 of 4 is what we're after -- long way to go yet in season -- let's go Sox

[Edited on 7/26/2019 by Stephen]


Stephen - 7/29/2019 at 02:33 PM

With his biggest fan, his grandpa, cheering him on while phoning in the occasional tip, Mike Y (4 hits ystrdy) & the rampaging G-men can overtake Phils for WC this week -- Yaz has gotta be the happiest guy on the planet -- holy makarel tho, who would he root for in a Sox-SF WSeries....

"Prized hitting guru" Robert Von Scoyoc has indeed made LAD a fearsome squad
but even they were no match for Stephen last nite -- yep, he smacked an RBI basehit, scored a run, & w/his league-best 14th win, is in line for his 1st 20-win season & the Cy -- if he stays healthy he'll break 200 IP for just the 2nd time in his career -- he'll try to tie his career best w/his 15th win this wknd vs AZ (he's won 15 three times) --

envision Wash getting closer to Atlanta/pulling away from Phila this week, late word tho, Max Scherzer remains sidelined with something they're now calling "a right rhomboid strain"

Obviously this 2-week stretch is, well not our season, but still major -- no complaints so far, we won both series last week, & That HAS To Happen Again This Week -- we gotta win em both (TB this week, at NY this wknd) -- we need to be 4-5 GB NY, same ahead of TB next week -- it's the pivotal juncture of our season

BOSTON RED SOX


[Edited on 7/30/2019 by Stephen]


emr - 7/29/2019 at 11:52 PM

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With his biggest fan, his grandpa, cheering him on while phoning in the occasional tip, Mike Y (4 hits ystrdy) & the rampaging G-men can overtake Phils for WC this week -- Yaz has gotta be the happiest guy on the planet -- holy makarel tho, who would he root for in a Sox-SF WSeries....

"Prized hitting guru" Robert Von Scoyoc has indeed made LAD a fearsome squad
but even they were no match for Stephen last nite -- yep, he smacked an RBI basehit, scored a run, & w/his league-best 14th win, is in line for his 1st 20-win season & the Cy -- if he stays healthy he'll break 200 IP for just the 2nd time in his career -- he'll try to tie his career best w/his 15th win this wknd vs AZ (he's won 15 three times) -- envision Wash getting closer to Atlanta/pulling away from Phila this week, however, Max Scherzer remains sidelined

Obviously this 2-week stretch is, well not our season, but still major -- no complaints so far, we won both series last week, & That HAS To Happen Again This Week -- we gotta win em both (TB this week, at NY this wknd) -- we need to be 4-5 GB NY, same ahead of TB next week -- it's the pivotal juncture of our season

BOSTON RED SOX


[Edited on 7/29/2019 by Stephen]


always been a big Stephen fan. Like Mark Prior, without injuries he could have been an all time great.

but even if he wins the Cy Young he's merely the second best pitcher on his time


Lee - 7/31/2019 at 07:35 PM

Trading deadline is down to 25 minutes.


Stephen - 7/31/2019 at 10:13 PM

Astros Big 3 Ps of Verlander, Cole and now Zach Greinke is now as good as Wash, LAD, or Sox tandem of Sale, Price, Porcello -- whatever happened to Lance McCullers?

Guessing Indians will regret trading Bauer -- that was a heck of a throw he made over the CF fence -- he was 5th in league in K's w/185

Kansas City T-Bones? (American Association)

[Edited on 7/31/2019 by Stephen]


Lee - 7/31/2019 at 10:36 PM

quote:
Astros Big 3 Ps of Verlander, Cole and now Zach Greinke is now as good as Wash, LAD, or Sox tandem of Sale, Price, Porcello -- whatever happened to Lance McCullers?

Guessing Indians will regret trading Bauer -- that was a heck of a throw he made over the CF fence -- he was 5th in league in K's w/185

Kansas City T-Bones? (American Association)

[Edited on 7/31/2019 by Stephen]


Totally agree about Bauer. Don't get that one.

Disagree about Houston. I think their top three are better than Boston's. On one of the ESPN baseball shows they said they will be favored over everyone they play (for whatever that's worth).

[Edited on 8/1/2019 by Lee]


porkchopbob - 8/5/2019 at 12:43 PM

Yanks complete the weekend sweep of the Sux. Even with injuries piling up, they keep winning.


Stephen - 8/5/2019 at 02:28 PM

all 0-8s are ugly, this one doubly so vs 2 teams we were trying to catch -- same Brewers, they coughed up their own crucial wknd series w/Cubs
will the last 2 months become garbage time for the Sox -- I don't think so, but we have to be as hot down the stretch as Cleve is rite now (league-best 37-15 since June 4) --
but, even w/3 former Cy Young winners, our pitching doesn't suggest that happening -- only ERod (13-4) has pitched well

Justin Bieber another CG gem -- the game needs more like him, also Verlander -- only 6 IP but 10 Ks & 1st to 15 wins w/a 2.68 ERA, both league highs, & 2nd in strikeouts -- Houstros & Tribe will be tough -- Tribe showing no sign of missing Bauer -- Bauer was hit hard his 1st start w/Reds --
same Stephen, a rarity, knocked outta the box Sat. -- an automaton he isn't I guess -- w/the dog days of August here, could a break be coming for Stephen

[Edited on 8/5/2019 by Stephen]


Stephen - 8/8/2019 at 10:47 PM

First there was Clev of Cleve's teres major strain (he's back)
then the strain of Mad Max's rhomboid (still sidelined)
now David, w/what they're calling "a triangular fibrocartilage complex cyst" in his left wrist, which was treated with a cortisone shot.

None top Carlos Correa tho -- fractured ribs, incurred while getting a massage
Let's go Sox, 6 games to make up for the WC shouldn't be impossible, with or without David -- hopefully he can bounce back

[Edited on 8/8/2019 by Stephen]


Stephen - 8/9/2019 at 02:28 PM

quote:
Whoa, Noah (88 K's), Zack Wheeler and Jacob deGrom give the Mets top 5-caliber heat while fanning everyone in sight

but still in all, in this, the 50th year of their Miracle 1969 season, they're not making anyone forget Tom Seaver, Jerry Koosman or rookie fireballer Nolan Ryan -- Mets are languishing




Unbelievable, it's not just their big 3 anymore -- Stroman has joined, they're playin like it's 1969 w/a league-best 19-6 since the break, & just like that, Matz & the METS are the talk of the Citi -- Stroman-Stephen kick off their key wkndr 2nite as the Amazins look to pass Phil-Wash in NL East

Chris & MadBum were good last nite -- Chris' W-L isn't good but he's right there in K's -- there was a no-hitter BC recently, Madison's gem last nite was 7 IP w/2 relievers

It's a mad game of streaks -- ours needs to begin w/last nite


Stephen - 8/9/2019 at 03:08 PM

Howabout, the Everett AquaSox

or the Modesto Nuts -- they're Seattle Mariners minor league teams -- King Felix pitched 2 IP for the Nuts recently giving up 2 earned runs & fanning 3 -- Felix last pitched like a king in 2015 (18-9)

Stephen has been my favorite P to follow ever since 2012, when, after going 15-6, a healthy Stephen sat out the stretch run of Wash's pennant race & playoffs
because of a contract agreement
he wasn't a holdout, it wasn't a contract disPute
it was a contract aGreement

hadn't ever seen anything like that before, so he became my poster boy to follow/throw tomatoes at*, as far as the coddled/injured/preprogrammed modern-day MLB hurler --
that's why I mention him all the time

*and talk him up him too -- have always said how good he was, when he felt up to the task -- his #s do that talking anyway

Dustin had further knee surgery 2 days ago to ensure independence later in life -- the guy is great, he's gotta be content w/the career he's had -- watta warrior


crazyjoe - 8/17/2019 at 07:10 AM

Bill Walton just did the entire White Sox/Angels broadcast, 9 innings of shear genius insanity! Sox Won!!!......Peace......joe


Lee - 8/17/2019 at 11:15 AM

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Bill Walton just did the entire White Sox/Angels broadcast, 9 innings of shear genius insanity! Sox Won!!!......Peace......joe



I wonder if he did some Grateful Dead partying prior to the game. Was he trying to act that way? The other guy couldn't even get a word in.


crazyjoe - 8/17/2019 at 01:07 PM

I guess he figures he is being paid for certain shtick and Man does he deliver!!! Had me thinking I was tripping at the ballgame, maybe like Doc Ellis or something???.........Peace.......joe


Stephen - 8/17/2019 at 10:27 PM

That must have been priceless alright -- just about to read an AP article on it

Speaking of ChiSox
(SEEYA BENCH )

on this day 1990
With his 328th, Carlton Fisk broke Johnny Bench's career HR record for catchers

Pudge one time did a commercial in which the bench was mentioned a lot -- "if you wanna get off the bench, you gotta buy......."
then at the end of the commercial, he looks straight into the camera and, in full catcher's gear, says "See ya, Bench" & runs out on the field, obvious quip, leaving Johnny on the bench as Carlton's backup

24 years in the bigs, 11 w/Bo, 13 w/Chi (nine really for us, 1st 2 years 1970-71 mostly in minors)
he most own all the catching records for both teams
Let's go Sox
BO-Sox

[Edited on 8/17/2019 by Stephen]


Lee - 8/22/2019 at 11:41 AM

Tiggers beat Verlander last night. Love him but I liked that. I've had this discussion with friends and when the time comes for the HOF, I really hope he goes in as a Tigger but I have my doubts.


Stephen - 8/22/2019 at 04:16 PM

Giolito was just as good for ChiSox, 3-hit shutout, 12 Ks -- probly Verlander's top performance this year, win or lose
Let's go BoSox (fading fast tho) -- about the only thing worth looking forward to is Yaz's return to Fenway w/his family next month to cheer on Mike when SF visits

23 years in a Red Sox uniform, 1st player w/400 HR & 3,000 hits
Cahl
Happy birthday Carl Yastrzemski, 80 yrs young

[Edited on 8/22/2019 by Stephen]


Lee - 8/22/2019 at 09:42 PM

Verlander banned a Detroit Free Press writer (the main Detroit paper) from the dressing room last night. Yikes.


Stephen - 8/26/2019 at 07:18 PM

Adirondack River Pigs?
Couldn't possibly go over well tho -- sure enough,
HOWEVER, read the fine print


TUPPER LAKE, N.Y. — A new semi-pro baseball team in the Adirondacks is rooting around for a new nickname. Some residents grunted at "River Pigs."

Now the name of the new Empire League team will be changed.

The name River Pigs was chosen to reflect the region's logging history. River pigs were skilled loggers who broke up logjams on rivers


Stephen - 8/26/2019 at 07:25 PM

Clay and Felix had so-so returns over the weekend

Most importantly -- I know all you fans took note over the weekend of the century mark of the greatest feat ever on a baseball diamond -- 100 years can't diminish its impact, in fact it only enhances it


On Aug. 24, 1919, in his first start as a member of the Indians since being traded from the Red Sox, right-hander Ray Caldwell is knocked unconscious after being struck by lightning with two outs in the top of the ninth inning. The 31 year-old free-wheeling spitballer, who was was unconscious for about five minutes, refuses to leave the game, needing just one more out for the complete-game victory, and goes on to record the final out for the 2-1 victory over Philadelphia at Cleveland's League Park.

[Edited on 8/28/2019 by Stephen]


Stephen - 8/27/2019 at 04:36 PM

Everyone talks about the 1969 Amazin Mets,which they should
But waattabout the Cubs too -- were way ahead, then lost 17 of their last 25 in an unbelievable choke

Now it's the Cubs & Mets in a 3 critical games, & NYM still smarting from sweep to Atlanta -- took some of the wknd starch outta Citi fans, & let's face it, they don't wanna see a repeat of 2006 and 07, when Mets coughed it up in consecutive Septembers --
on the other hand, their own 3 game sweep would enable Amazins to pass Cubbies in NL standings for the 1st time this season


Stephen - 8/27/2019 at 04:58 PM

Mad Max is back, the lowly O's are in from Baltimore for a visit, & an injury-free Stephen & the streaking Nats (W5, 8-2 L10) could be poised to catch Atlanta -- Braves own the Mets, they've won 11 of 14 against them

Just a pissah race for NL MVP between Acuna Jr and Christian Yelich -- players with both speed & power, & Acuna Jr is crowding Jose Canseco's 1988 record of 40 HR and 40 SB

ACUNA JR: .290 BA, 106 runs (1st place), 156 hits (2nd), 36 HR (4th) -- 30 SB (1st) -- then t9 with Cody Bellinger w/89 RBI

YELICH: .329 BA (2nd), 41 HR (2nd), 100 RBI (5th) -- 25 SB (4th) -- then t7 hits (146), and 8th in runs (91)

pissah is a regional term -- I'd have to give it to Christian based on BA differential -- Bellinger is having a great year too (.312, 42 HR, 89 RBI, 101 runs)

No Sox fan, or player, is giving up yet -- one thing is sure, a deserving AL team won't be in the playoffs, that has a better record than all but 2 NL teams (if it started tomorrow) -- there's three spots for Oak, MN, TB & Tribe

Let's Go Sox


Stephen - 9/3/2019 at 06:25 PM

If we can win these 2 series this week vs division leaders it’ll show we mean business & we’ll still have a pulse going into next week’s big (for Yaz fans) SF series

Giants made their run in this, the 2nd straight year of the retirement of a long time west coast manager, Bochy (after Sciosa last year) - looks like too little too late tho - could be for us too - need look no further than the 0-8 vs TB/NY late July-early Aug
Let’s Go Sox

[Edited on 9/3/2019 by Stephen]


Stephen - 9/6/2019 at 05:22 PM

quote:

Guessing Indians will regret trading Bauer -- that was a heck of a throw he made over the CF fence -- he was 5th in league in K's w/185

Kansas City T-Bones? (American Association)

[Edited on 7/31/2019 by Stephen]


Totally agree about Bauer. Don't get that one.

[Edited on 8/1/2019 by Lee]

Yep Bauer has been a bust for Reds, & Chief Wahoo’s Tribe sliding outta contention gong into their crucial wknd series w/MN -
Same thing w/Cashner, he was great in Balt, a bust here - walked bases full last night costing us the game/series - now it’s last-gasp time this wknd - it's always big w/NY, let’s goSox


[Edited on 9/6/2019 by Stephen]


Lee - 9/6/2019 at 07:46 PM

quote:
now it’s last-gasp time this wknd - it's always big w/NY, let’s goSox





I don't see Boston sneaking in. I think they are running out of time. Although it would be fun to see them play NY if they could make it that far.


Stephen - 9/6/2019 at 08:44 PM

Yeah it's completely doubtful because of the lack of pitching. Announcers said last night that we lead the league in number of games giving up eight or more walks per game.

Cubs are getting closer and closer to a playoff berth, they're playing well — what’s w/AZ, suddenly they’re just 2 GB Cubbies —
Same Atlanta, they’re W8 & have surged past MN in the overall - Mil, Phil & Mets at 72-68 - NY & Houstros 92-50, LA 1/2 GB

It’s 6 teams vying for 2 spots in NL - Sox are 5 out - again, no pitching makes it highly improbable
But We Won Tonite


[Edited on 9/7/2019 by Stephen]


Lee - 9/8/2019 at 12:13 PM

The Flubs ain't looking so good. I was going to go up to Milwaukee this weekend to see the series. Glad I didn't bother. I don't think they are going to catch St Louis.


Stephen - 9/8/2019 at 04:35 PM

Hope your team makes it, looks like they should - suddenly Wash sliding (L4), no catching Atlanta now like I thought they would

It’s just the penthouse & outhouse this year in the AL - not just NY & Hou, but TB, MN, Oakland, Tribe up top

Same down below, it’s not just Det & Balt, all those bottom 6 teams are down the tubes - Tygiz likely 100 losses today, but at least won’t hit their 2003 record-for-futility of 119

Was mistaken, that SF series is next week- both currently 7 out - let’s go Sox


Jerry - 9/9/2019 at 02:33 PM

quote:
Hope your team makes it, looks like they should - suddenly Wash sliding (L4), no catching Atlanta now like I thought they would

It’s just the penthouse & outhouse this year in the AL - not just NY & Hou, but TB, MN, Oakland, Tribe up top

Same down below, it’s not just Det & Balt, all those bottom 6 teams are down the tubes - Tygiz likely 100 losses today, but at least won’t hit their 2003 record-for-futility of 119

Was mistaken, that SF series is next week- both currently 7 out - let’s go Sox


Well, the Nats got one in last night against the Braves, who looked like they could have pulled it back in a place they rarely find themselves at home, playing the bottom of the 9th inning.
This year has been weird though. I can't remember a time when there were so many teams over 500, much less over 600.


porkchopbob - 9/9/2019 at 02:45 PM

Brewers are having a nice surge - taking 5 of 7 from the Chubs (and a couple from Houston last week). Still 2 games out from the final Wild Card, but it would be nice to see them end the season strong. They are in Miami this week, if they can't add a few Ws over the next four games, they don't deserve to make the playoffs.

Red Sox have fired their President. Seems a bit of an overreaction, but they took a small dip this season after dominating in 2018, but were still in a position to make the playoffs late in the year.

Meanwhile, the Yankees seem like the team to beat. They've figured out their rotation and Boone should get Manager of the Year for keeping the Yankees atop the AL with all of their injuries through out the season.


Lee - 9/9/2019 at 07:15 PM

Interesting...

https://sports.yahoo.com/dave-dombrowski-red-sox-fired-world-series-0413327 77.html


Stephen - 9/11/2019 at 04:28 AM

Rotten break for the Brew Crew w/Yelich injury, they’re going good right now too
For the Sox, it’s wait til next year
BOSTON RED SOX

[Edited on 9/11/2019 by Stephen]


porkchopbob - 9/11/2019 at 12:49 PM

Well, Yelich is out for the season. That's probably that, with Moustakas in and out, unless the rest of the team can rally. Too bad, they had a fairly easy schedule down the stretch and were kind of surging. But you never know, maybe they can do like the Yankees have done and plug their major injury holes since there is still a lot of talent on the roster.


Lee - 9/11/2019 at 09:27 PM

quote:
Well, Yelich is out for the season. That's probably that, with Moustakas in and out, unless the rest of the team can rally. Too bad, they had a fairly easy schedule down the stretch and were kind of surging. But you never know, maybe they can do like the Yankees have done and plug their major injury holes since there is still a lot of talent on the roster.


That's a real shame. But maybe that A-Hole in left field can put them on his shoulders. He's capable. Plus they moved into a spot where they are just a game back of the Flubs for the last playoff spot so I wouldn't write them off just yet.

And the Flubs still have seven games left with the Cards. Who knows?


Stephen - 9/12/2019 at 04:05 PM

We get our 1st look at Clay tonite since the trade, he’s 1-4, 5.31 ERA - Felix’ return has also been a bust (1-6, 6.96), they’ll throw him out there tmrw vs ChiSox

Clay is 35, Félix 33 - who could forget Clay’s no hitter at Fenway in just his 2nd big league start - Felix’ repertoire has gone the way of Steve Blass
Let’s go Sox
Wait til next year

[Edited on 9/12/2019 by Stephen]


Lee - 9/12/2019 at 07:52 PM

Well, the Brewers tied the Flubs last night. It is going to be something here in Chicago if they don't make the playoffs. If Maddon wasn't concerned about his job, he better be. Hell the Yanks fired Girardi a few years ago and he rallied them into the playoffs in September. Speaking of, I really think Girardi is going to be the Flubs manager next year. He had a chance at it years ago and declined. I think he will take it this time if given the opportunity.


Lee - 9/12/2019 at 07:56 PM

A buddy of mine offered me a bet to see if I would take my Tiggers winning 50 games this year. I think they are on 43 right now. Got 18 games left. They should be able to win seven. I turned down the offer. How sad is that?


porkchopbob - 9/12/2019 at 08:06 PM

quote:
Well, the Brewers tied the Flubs last night. It is going to be something here in Chicago if they don't make the playoffs. If Maddon wasn't concerned about his job, he better be. Hell the Yanks fired Girardi a few years ago and he rallied them into the playoffs in September. Speaking of, I really think Girardi is going to be the Flubs manager next year. He had a chance at it years ago and declined. I think he will take it this time if given the opportunity.


Hey, like we both said, lots of baseball left to be played. Brewers are lucky to be slapping Miami around right now, and going for their 7th win in a row as I type this. Other than St Louis (who just dropped 2 in a row to the Rockies), the Crew finish playing the bottom of the NL. But the Cubs aren't out of it (as much as I'd like them to be) and The Phillies and Mets are somehow both right there in the Wild Card hunt, too. Should be an exciting finish in the NL Central. Cards have a tough finish and could just as easily end up in 3rd place.

I think it would be a shame for the Cubs to move away from Maddon, he's a solid manager and has done well in Chicago (and TB, before that). Girardi managed for a decade in the Bronx before the Yankees moved on and I think they were right to - Joe looked spent, it was time. I'm all for continuity, and sticking with your guy, but a decade seems to be long enough. Just seems like awfully reactionary to a decent season thus far in a division that was pretty close for the first half of the season.


Lee - 9/12/2019 at 08:51 PM

I almost would like to see a Dodgers / Yankees World Series like when I was a kid. Bring back Thurman Munson, Bucky Dent, Goose, Steve Garvey, etc.

Ahh, memories.

[Edited on 9/20/2019 by Lee]


porkchopbob - 9/12/2019 at 08:59 PM

quote:
I almost would like to see a Dodgers / Yankees World Series like when I was a kid.


I'll be really surprised if it's not. Astros are up there, but the Yankees just have an unstoppable look this year the way they've been plugging holes in the lineup with HRs.

But that's why they play the games...


Lee - 9/12/2019 at 09:07 PM

If I had to put a nickel on who is going to win I would take the Astros. I really don't know much about their bullpen but their starting rotation is off the charts. If they let those guys pitch into the 7th / 8th inning I can see them winning it all.



Stephen - 9/13/2019 at 03:10 AM

Houstros beat up A’s 15-0 Monday, then lost the next 3 - so who knows, but yep, ties in NL w/Cubs & Brew, also Phil & NY - AZ was hot, now they are not :huhwah:

The AL race is a doozie - a WS-caliber team will be on the sidelines - just a half game separates those 3 teams for the 2 WCs


Stephen - 9/13/2019 at 03:37 AM

I feel for Shohei Ohtani - but also for the dashed expectations of Angels fans - & their owners who paid a kings ransom for him

All he did was DH this year but he still couldn’t hack it physically
Now they’ve discovered why - “a bipartite patella on his left knee...a congenital condition”

Two years into his much heralded career & 2 major operations, one for a congenital condition
- doubt they’ll have much choice from now on but to use him minimally in the field, less than that on the mound

He’s young, hopefully he bounces back - maybe he’ll have a Stephen-like physical renaissance later in his career - sure enough, 17-6 w/3 more starts slated - 9 innings shy of 200 IP for just the 2nd time in his career

[Edited on 9/13/2019 by Stephen]


Stephen - 9/14/2019 at 04:04 AM

No one could’ve guessed Oakland would have the season they’re having w/Khris Davis in a season-long slump - they signed him to a big contract extension in April too - but A’s a Solid dark horse pick - Oakland-Atlanta is just as good a WS pick as NY-LA - A’s gotta make it 1st tho - but amazing what they’ve done this year, also w/out Manea, their top P - think he just recently returned - so did Cueto for SF, also Severino for NY - missing whole seasons or more is nothing in the game now

[Edited on 9/14/2019 by Stephen]


Stephen - 9/16/2019 at 12:04 PM

On sept 16 2006, Washington’s Alfonso Soriano became the 4th player ever to make 40 HR & 40 SB
Atlanta’s Acuna Jr is at 39/36, but also has slumped to .276 & been stuck at 36 SB for awhile now it seems

Also ‘on this day’ two players playing for the Twins at the end of their great careers, Dave Winfield (1993) and Paul Molitor (1996), gained their 3,000th hits

It’s Wash (82-66) vs St.L (83-66) tonite & can Stephen help Nats pass Cards & keep alive a possible 20 win season & the Cy w/his league leading 18th win In this critical series - yep he’s done it - no injuries this season - even the old Félix returned Sat nite, so ya never know


[Edited on 9/16/2019 by Stephen]


Stephen - 9/17/2019 at 05:31 PM

W/out Christian Yelich, Braun & Brewiz are smokin
With their top rated pitching staffs intact, Nats & Mets are slipping
So yeah ya never know - a TB-LA WS? Not Far Fetched, Rays visiting Chavez Ravine - TB 2018 Cy winner Blake Snell returns tonite

Leadoff hitter Mike Y should get a big ovation his 1st at-bat - for the 1st time in 36 years, a Yastrzemski stepping up to the plate at Fenway Pahk
Carl will be there tmrw nite they’re saying
Let’s go Sox

[Edited on 9/17/2019 by Stephen]


porkchopbob - 9/18/2019 at 02:57 PM

Yeah, Brewers could actually win the Central with STL and CHI battling each other. They were surging before Yelich went down, but their remaining schedule is pretty cushy.


Lee - 9/18/2019 at 05:40 PM

quote:
Yeah, Brewers could actually win the Central with STL and CHI battling each other. They were surging before Yelich went down, but their remaining schedule is pretty cushy.


I agree. Flubs/Cards can beat each other up and with the Beer Drinkers' schedule, they could definitely win the division. Wouldn't that be something?


Stephen - 9/19/2019 at 02:58 AM

Ups to Bruce Bochy, 2,000 career wins - only the 11th mgr to make that milestone


Jerry - 9/19/2019 at 09:18 PM

I guess the Braves are suffering from that yearly malady called postseasonalgoofoffious.


Lee - 9/19/2019 at 10:09 PM

quote:
Ups to Bruce Bochy, 2,000 career wins - only the 11th mgr to make that milestone


Funny, I have always remembered him more as a catcher than a manager but I was a lot younger then. Of course, he has had more success as a manager.

A LOT of good managers were once catchers.


Lee - 9/19/2019 at 10:13 PM

quote:
I guess the Braves are suffering from that yearly malady called postseasonalgoofoffious.



Why? They are going to win the division. And there is no way they could be as bad in the post season as those Braves in the early 90s. How on earth they didn't win it all the time with that pitching staff is beyond me.


Jerry - 9/20/2019 at 01:40 AM

quote:
quote:
I guess the Braves are suffering from that yearly malady called postseasonalgoofoffious.



Why? They are going to win the division. And there is no way they could be as bad in the post season as those Braves in the early 90s. How on earth they didn't win it all the time with that pitching staff is beyond me.


They should have clinched the division on Tuesday. They didn't. Should have clinched on Wednesday. They didn't. Should have clinched today, but didn't.
Once they got the playoff berth, they started losing. Very reminiscent of previous seasons.


Stephen - 9/20/2019 at 12:10 PM

quote:
quote:
Ups to Bruce Bochy, 2,000 career wins - only the 11th mgr to make that milestone


Funny, I have always remembered him more as a catcher than a manager but I was a lot younger then. Of course, he has had more success as a manager.

A LOT of good managers were once catchers.


Yep, him, Sciocia, Girardi, Torre, Yogi, Joe Maddon, Bob Melvin, Darrell Johnson, John McNamara, Birdie Tebbets....& the great Connie Mack

Birdie played for Sox, managed Tribe - now that we’re spoilers we can help Chief Wahoo by beating TB - Tribe can help bounce Phil same-time - Cards-Cubs another crucial series, looking more & more like the 2 NL WCs will come outta Central

[Edited on 9/20/2019 by Stephen]


Lee - 9/20/2019 at 12:22 PM

Not sure how much success Yogi had as a manager.


Stephen - 9/20/2019 at 12:34 PM

Managed NYY to 1964 pennant, NYM to 1973 championship -
didn’t go as well working for the Boss years later tho
“Yogi will be my manager this season no matter what” thundered George prior to 1985 season
16 games in, Yogi was history

[Edited on 9/20/2019 by Stephen]


porkchopbob - 9/20/2019 at 07:09 PM

quote:
Managed NYY to 1964 pennant, NYM to 1973 championship

both were pennants, 1973 Mets lost the World Series to Reggie Jackson's A's

Quick facts:
- 1973 Mets were 82-79, the fewest wins of any pennant winner
- Game 2 of the WS featured Willie Mays's last hit.


[Edited on 9/20/2019 by porkchopbob]


Lee - 9/20/2019 at 08:58 PM

Not saying Yogi was a bad manager; I just don't think he had a ton of success doing so. If you sit back and think about it, I don't believe there were a lot of successful managers that were great players and vise versa. Take LaRussa and Sparky Anderson for instance. Great managers, not great players. On the other side of that coin you had Ted Williams. One of the best players ever. Didn't have success as a manager. Granted, he had a crappy team.

Of course you can always come up with examples the other way.


Stephen - 9/21/2019 at 02:59 AM

quote:
quote:
Managed NYY to 1964 pennant, NYM to 1973 championship

both were pennants, 1973 Mets lost the World Series to Reggie Jackson's A's

Quick facts:
- 1973 Mets were 82-79, the fewest wins of any pennant winner
- Game 2 of the WS featured Willie Mays's last hit.


[Edited on 9/20/2019 by porkchopbob]


Thanks, that’s right - funny how sports trivia is a barometer for my brain/memory “compared to before” haha - cool factoids too - dfrnt subject, Willie & Hank - began in NY/Mil - moved to SF/Atlanta - then finished back where it all began
Hope your Brew Crew makes it, they won again tonite, hellAcious races in both leagues - Indians, A’s & TB all won tonite too

Boston Red Sox, I live & die with em - don’t care about seeing em use 29 pitchers per game but that’s the game now -
wait til next year

[Edited on 9/21/2019 by Stephen]


Stephen - 9/22/2019 at 01:52 AM

There it is - we’ve used basically our whole pitching staff - 9 innings, 9 pitchers - here come the position players - will never understand this trend in the game

Stephen for instance - removed from game while in top form en route to his 18th win & a 4-0 lead in critical game at lowly Miami
But going from Stephen to Fernando Rodney, the pitches would suddenly look fat to even the Miami’s - yep it’s 4-4 last check
Bi-zarre


Lee - 9/22/2019 at 07:06 PM

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There it is - we’ve used basically our whole pitching staff - 9 innings, 9 pitchers - here come the position players - will never understand this trend in the game



I just had this discussion with a buddy of mine. Old timer. We were talking about how many wins starting pitchers will get anymore and we agreed "not that many". They take them out of the game so early that they won't get as many decisions as they used to.

I say let them pitch six or seven innings.


Stephen - 9/23/2019 at 02:08 PM

Absolutely- look at the Cubs-st.L game ystrdy - what fan would rather see a continuous parade of nameless nervous Ps throwing 0.2, 1 IP or 10-12 pitches, compared to Yu D & Miles M locking horns like that - where’s the strategic benefit in it -

Ups to Darvish, he’s saying eff this baloney too, he wanted to be out there for the 9th inning - he’s had 3 straight games of 12 or more Ks & it’s a shame to see that vanishing outta the game, along with, as you pointed out 20 game winners, CGs etc


Stephen - 9/23/2019 at 02:32 PM

“On this day” 4 instance, Steve Carlton beat St.L, the team that drafted him, for his 300th win
The Lefty’s, the Rocket’s, all the great Ps - ..they wouldn’t take this stuff sittin down either IMO -

Just too bad to see potential 300 game winners & dominant starters phased outta baseball - those Bull **** pitch counts have ruined it, guys come outta the game whether they’re pitching good or not, it’s sterile/antiseptic/predictable/boring safety-first Crap
But am a lifelong fan & will never not follow it or stop cheering for BoSox

[Edited on 9/23/2019 by Stephen]


Stephen - 9/23/2019 at 03:56 PM

In fairness, Verlander & Cole have both been dominant this season - near impossible to pick for Cy
Cubs’ Castellanos (58) - is trying to become 1st w/60 doubles since 1936 - Acuna Jr 3 steals from a 40/40 season
Also on this day Craig Biggio became 2nd ever to 50 steals & 50 doubles, joining Tris Speaker


Sang - 9/23/2019 at 06:12 PM

How bout those Cardinals......


Lee - 9/23/2019 at 06:22 PM

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How bout those Cardinals......


Cardinals? Arizona stinks. They should be 0-3 instead of 0-2-1 if not for the Lions.


Stephen - 9/24/2019 at 02:27 AM

First Bruce Bochy, 64 - now Ned Yost, 65, is retiring w/Joe Maddon, also 65, not far behind if the rumors mean anything

Clay was hammered in his final outing tonite - they’ve gone to position players pitching in that game (14th inning)
It’s Felix’ Seattle finale Thursday - he hasn’t announced his retirement or anything, But....
can’t see either career continuing but ya never know

They sure don’t build stadiums like they used to - not in Texas anyway, where they’re closing the stadium that opened in 1994 - wtf
Wait til next year

[Edited on 9/24/2019 by Stephen]


Stephen - 9/24/2019 at 05:21 AM

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How bout those Cardinals......


Yep they won again tonite & are the winningest team over last 2/3rds of season, article said - were 31-31 at one point, have burned down the league since

Very similar pattern as their hockey team, which was in last place at one point, then burned down league & won Cup :madface:
Cards could be team of destiny too :ya:


Lee - 9/27/2019 at 01:43 AM

Caught some of the end of the last radio broadcast of Reds announcer Marty Brennaman today. What an icon.


Stephen - 9/27/2019 at 02:17 PM

It’s 2 out w/3 to play for the Tribe - Oak & TB have easy opponents, Indians have Wash altho they might be resting people - Chief Wahoo will be there - all 3 div winners w/100 plus wins - Wash & Mil lit it up at crunch time, Brew doing that w/out Yelich shows the unpredictability of sports

That was great last nite in Seattle, Felix truly exited like a king - no hard feelings on anyone’s part, just love, good to see


Stephen - 9/28/2019 at 03:31 AM

Tribe is bounced - they had a real good year for not having Kluber, Danny Salazar, Carlos Carrasco,Jose Ramirez - those guys (have) missed A Lot of time - Kipnis missed last few weeks, Lindor was in&out of lineup, Clevinger (teres major) missed most of season, they let Bauer go midseason...

[Edited on 9/28/2019 by Stephen]


emr - 9/28/2019 at 06:45 PM

All playoff teams are decided. Hoping there are no potential ties necessitating a one game playoff to determine home field advantage for one game playoff. I just hate one and offs (though it allowed a hot Madbum and my Giants to world series glory against stronger teams)


Stephen - 9/29/2019 at 05:55 AM

How often have we seen it - ‘on-paper’ predictions are only made outta toilet paper, used
LA is 15 games ahead of St.L - a meaningless number now -

Yes the TP is shredding as I write on it - but still think Oak-Atlanta (both 97-64) is a great on-field matchup & a decent WS pick - however, Acuna Jr. only stole 1 base over final month before being shut down final week, he’d need to be in top form

Houstro pitching reflects their top overall record, they’re the faves - bad smell & all
They’re also the first team have three 100-win, & three 100-loss seasons in the same decade
All props for Justin Verlander - the last of the 3,000-Ks pitchers - the first to attain it on a wild pitch
He & Gerrit Cole, just the second tandem with 300 Ks joining AZ’s Big Unit/Schilling
Cole was never anything like this w/Pirates
Same Michael Brantley, he was hurt all the time in Cleve, they trade him & to Hou & he ‘stros crazy

[Edited on 9/29/2019 by Stephen]


Stephen - 10/2/2019 at 10:22 AM

Crusher loss for Brewers, yeah the game would still have only been tied, the walk & HBP greased the skids - errors don’t get much uglier than that tho, the guy almost tripped over his own two feet trying to recover after he booted the ball


porkchopbob - 10/2/2019 at 01:09 PM

Yeah, tough loss, that's a tough error to get past, but it wasn't the only thing that cost the Brewers the game - a game they seemed in command of. I've always hated the 1-game WC play-in, but I guess that's what makes it exciting for some people.

Still, it was a great season. Who would have thought the Crew would surge the way they did without Yelich? Hopefully they can solidify their bullpen for next season and get back to 2018 form.


Lee - 10/3/2019 at 08:31 PM

Well we got the stupid play-in games out of the way. Both good games actually. I was impressed with Tampa last night. My brother in law works for them so I guess I was kind of happy for him but I think Oakland could have given Houston a better series.

Sucks for Milwaukee. That poor kid that made that error. Brewers fans must be beside themselves. They should have won.

In the N.L., I like St Louis. I don't really know why but I think L.A. could have a tough time with the Nats. Their front line is just as good (if not better) as L.A.'s. And I think their lineup can hang in their. Guess they don't miss Harper. LOL. And if Washington can knock off L.A. then the Cards would get home field in the next round.

I think Houston has the best team and having said that, my pick for The World Series is:




Cards over Yanks in six.


I wouldn't bet too much on it though.


porkchopbob - 10/4/2019 at 01:17 PM

I don't think the Dodgers will have a problem with anyone, though the Cardinals have a way of surprising in the post season. And though it would have been nice to watch more Brewers baseball, they dropped 3 games to end the season against the only decent team they played for three weeks. They'd have gotten smoked by the Dodgers.

I'd bet Yanks over Dodgers in the WS.


porkchopbob - 10/8/2019 at 02:54 PM

Yankees move on, their pitching pretty much shut down the Twins' HR machine. Also, when did the Twins add Gold to their uniforms? They looked like the Cavaliers.

The Rays could give the Astros trouble - was there a more under-the-radar 96-win team than Tampa? Do people in Tampa even know? I'd be all for a NYY-Tampa pennant series.

DC-LAD and Atl-STL are neck and neck. Nice to see a hard fought divisional round.


Lee - 10/9/2019 at 11:41 AM

Other than the Yanks / Twinkies these divisional series have been great. Three out of four have gone to the decisive game five. Hell, anything can happen in a do or die game. I really hope Tampa can knock off Houston because I like the Yanks and I wouldn't want to face the Astros' starting rotation.

The Dodgers / Nats series I really don't care about. I think it would be something if L.A. lost though.

No idea what to make of the Cards / Braves series.

I would kind of like to see the Yanks against either the Dodgers, Cards or Braves just for the historical tilt to it. The Yanks have played all three in the 50s and 60s (and 80s with the Dodgers). I would enjoy any of those series.

So far the playoffs have been fun!


emr - 10/9/2019 at 03:37 PM

I said it to myself prior to the game. Why in the world would the astros potentially start their two aces on short rest so early in the playoffs when they could startVerlander on reg rest with Cole in the bullpen

I think it was 1973 when my Giants had to pitch Perry/Marichal the last two days of the regular season to make the playoffs and it killed their rotation for the playoffs

Even if they win game 5 this has to hurt houston


oldcoot - 10/9/2019 at 03:39 PM

Didn't see either of the Dodgers or Astros getting pushed to five games.


DanB - 10/10/2019 at 10:11 AM

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Didn't see either of the Dodgers or Astros getting pushed to five games.


didn't see the Braves getting pushed off a cliff


Jerry - 10/10/2019 at 02:48 PM

McAnn made his retirement announcement in the locker room after the game. At least his last at bat was a base hit.


emr - 10/10/2019 at 10:41 PM

Kershaw will go down in histroy as the athlete having the greatest disparity between regular and post season performance. What a way to end a season of promise


Stephen - 10/11/2019 at 01:56 PM

If pitching is still the name of the game, would have to pick a Colt 45s-Sens WS - wait make that astronaut, I mean Astro-Nat 2019 fall classic - of course my 1st pick was Oak-Atlanta - hmmmmm

[Edited on 10/11/2019 by Stephen]


Stephen - 10/13/2019 at 02:43 PM

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I said it to myself prior to the game. Why in the world would the astros potentially start their two aces on short rest so early in the playoffs when they could startVerlander on reg rest with Cole in the bullpen

I think it was 1973 when my Giants had to pitch Perry/Marichal the last two days of the regular season to make the playoffs and it killed their rotation for the playoffs

Even if they win game 5 this has to hurt houston


Yes, w/Greinke not being at his best (9 IP, 9 hits, 5 HR in 2 playoff games), the pressure is now all on Justin & Gerrit to keep em in it - still early, but if NY keeps up the level they’re playing at.....
Still can’t understand Anibal & Sherz being pulled early
Just watch today tho - no wait, tmrw the 15th
Healthy-as-a-horse Stephen will tell mgr & bullpen, step aside boys...
& pitch just the third CG of his career

I miss cheering on the BoSox
Wait til next year

RIP Terrible Teddy Green - he was a man among men until Wayne Maki buried his stick into Ted’s skull - he was a popular player & great D - 1st 11 yrs in the black & gold


[Edited on 10/14/2019 by Stephen]


porkchopbob - 10/14/2019 at 02:01 PM

Yankees taking the Rastros into extra innings against Verlander in Houston is something of a victory (even though it really isn't). Bodes well for the rest of the series for them. Not great if Stanton's bat is unavailable, but they've been plugging holes in this lineup all season. Severino is back on the mound on Tuesday in the Bronx.

Who saw the Nats dominating the NL post season like they are? Knocking off the Dodgers was apparently no fluke.


Stephen - 10/16/2019 at 03:36 AM

When you have the pitching they have tho (Nats).....
Three St.L pitchers combined on a 2 hitter w/7 Ks over the last 6 innings - that 1st inning folded Cards tho
Now Wash gets lengthy rest, & will it help or harm em
Think I read somewhere, next game, NY pitches their bullpen


porkchopbob - 10/16/2019 at 12:54 PM

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Think I read somewhere, next game, NY pitches their bullpen

Ha, seems like it lately. They had a great bull pen all season, but all it takes is one guy to have an off night. I wonder how different things would be if they had German and Betances.

When Houston's pitching keeps these games close, they tend to win. When the Yankees bats are swinging, they tend to win. The last 2 games, the Yankees' bats have gone cold. Same story as 2017.

Looks like either team will have their hands full with the Nats at full power.


Lee - 10/16/2019 at 07:53 PM

Joe Maddon to the Angels for three years. I don't think this is that surprising.


porkchopbob - 10/17/2019 at 01:39 PM

Figured Maddon would find a new home pretty fast. Good for him.

The night off definitely gives the Yankees an edge, resting their pitchers. If they can't muster a win at home on an extra day's rest, they are probably done.


Stephen - 10/17/2019 at 04:52 PM

Benefits both teams - no rain but blustery challenging conditions tonite, they’re saying -
Greinke has 2.89 ERA in 18.2 IP vs NY this season - Tanaka is great in postseason, his career 1.32 ERA ranks him third all time behind Mariano Rivera and Sandy Koufax among Ps w/40 or more postseason IPs

W/the conditions forecast, neither will go more than 4-5 innings - envision the series returning to Hou w/‘stros up 3-2

[Edited on 10/17/2019 by Stephen]


porkchopbob - 10/17/2019 at 05:09 PM

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Benefits both teams

I think it interrupts the Rastros momentum and gives the Yankees more time to regroup, rest their pitchers. Otherwise Weds would have been a bullpen game for the Yankees, now they have Tanaka rested.


porkchopbob - 10/18/2019 at 01:40 PM

Well, never mind that. Yankees look done for. Cold bats, sieve pitching, at home no less. They actually made it closer in 2017 going up 3-2. I'm not saying it's totally over, but they need to turn the ship around fast, win 3 in a row, 2 on the road. They looked unstoppable all season and in the Divisional round, crushing runs in spite of all of their injuries. Maybe Houston just has their number.


Stephen - 10/18/2019 at 03:53 PM

The errors did in NY last night - if they can scratch out a win tonite against Verlander & force the series back to Houston....
Between the errors & weather, the stadium was mostly empty by the end of the game


porkchopbob - 10/19/2019 at 01:41 PM

Yanks got their hits in early and their pitching held. They are good enough to take 2 on the road, they just have to get it going again. Bull pen game tonight, get your popcorn ready.


emr - 10/19/2019 at 04:14 PM

I said it last series. The Stro's decision to start Justun V on short rest was not a good one.

I still think no onr can beat Cole however


Lee - 10/19/2019 at 09:09 PM

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Benefits both teams

I think it interrupts the Rastros momentum and gives the Yankees more time to regroup, rest their pitchers. Otherwise Weds would have been a bullpen game for the Yankees, now they have Tanaka rested.


Have to respectfully disagree with this thought. Houston has probably the best starting rotation in the game. Yanks reply on their bullpen. A lot. I think they would be taxed in the last three games. Now two of course. I think that is a lot to ask of their pen when the Yanks are lucky to get five innings out of their starters.

But who knows, maybe the Yanks can get their bats moving in Houston. Looking forward to the hopefully next two games.


porkchopbob - 10/19/2019 at 09:45 PM

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Have to respectfully disagree with this thought. Houston has probably the best starting rotation in the game. Yanks reply on their bullpen. A lot. I think they would be taxed in the last three games. Now two of course. I think that is a lot to ask of their pen when the Yanks are lucky to get five innings out of their starters.


I was speaking to their games in NY that were delayed, so the Yankees could stay alive. Yankees have been using their pen more with German, their top starter during the season, unavailable. And they are down Betances, one of their top relievers. The weather gave them an extra day of rest at home with both Tanaka and Paxton throwing deep into games 4 and 5, rather than having a bull pen game against Verlander or Greinke.

And they won to stay alive. Now the Yankees' bull pen with face off against the Rastro's bull pen. Seems like that favors the Yankees. Maybe not in a Game 7, but without that extra day off I think the Yankees would have been stretched even thinner in games 4 and 5 and they'd already be done.


Stephen - 10/19/2019 at 10:15 PM

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Have to respectfully disagree with this thought. Houston has probably the best starting rotation in the game. Yanks reply on their bullpen. A lot. I think they would be taxed in the last three games. Now two of course. I think that is a lot to ask of their pen when the Yanks are lucky to get five innings out of their starters.


I was speaking to their games in NY that were delayed, so the Yankees could stay alive. Yankees have been using their pen more with German, their top starter during the season, unavailable. And they are down Betances, one of their top relievers. The weather gave them an extra day of rest at home with both Tanaka and Paxton throwing deep into games 4 and 5, rather than having a bull pen game against Verlander or Greinke.

And they won to stay alive. Now the Yankees' bull pen with face off against the Rastro's bull pen. Seems like that favors the Yankees. Maybe not in a Game 7, but without that extra day off I think the Yankees would have been stretched even thinner in games 4 and 5 and they'd already be done.


they’ve been w/out Betances this season, German’s absence is big tho
Why didn’t they have a travel day, so that the athletes could’ve had time to prepare & be at their sharpest - instead of showing up run-ragged from last nights game w/hardly any rest/sleep in the interim - that too would’ve benefited both pitching staffs - don’t know whose bullpen is stronger, we’ll see shortly tho


Stephen - 10/20/2019 at 11:27 AM

NY did really good this year winning 103 games despite all the injuries, beating a good MN team in the playoffs & fighting to the end w/that huge 9th-inning game-tying HR

Some of the fun is taken out of the Cole/Verlander vs. Scherzer/Stephen matchups, knowing they’ll only go 5-6 innings in favor of a bullpen game (also the lower-tier Anibal- or Corbin-Greinke)
Too close to call, great World Series matchup indeed - starts Tues


[Edited on 10/20/2019 by Stephen]


porkchopbob - 10/20/2019 at 03:22 PM

Yanks were a long shot once they went down 3-1, but they made it interesting last night. Houston just has too many hitters who are hot right now.

The Nats are hard to gauge, but I think Houston will outlast them.


Lee - 10/20/2019 at 07:45 PM

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Why didn’t they have a travel day,


Because of that rain out. It is indeed a shame they didn't get a travel day but both teams had to do it so I'm not sure how much it mattered.


Stephen - 10/21/2019 at 03:26 PM

WOW - didn’t know this
“Gerrit Cole is on one of the most amazing runs in history
“He’s gone 19-0 with a 1.59 ERA, 258 Ks in his last 169.1 IP over his last 25 starts - Houstros have won each of his last 16 starts”

The Big Train himself, all-time Senator Walter Johnson, would be impressed - had no idea he was goin like that


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