Thread: Richard Betts Playlist

Looziana_Lou - 6/28/2020 at 02:36 AM

I've compiled a Playlist collecting Dickey's country-ish stuff from the 72-75 era, aka the "Richard" Betts years. So far I've got:

ABB--
Blue Sky
Melissa
Ramblin' Man
Jessica
Pony Boy
Just Another Love Song
Louisana Lou etc
Sweet Mama

Solo---
The entire Highway Call album

Guest appearances--
Long Haired Country Boy (CDB)
Kiss the Blues Goodbye (Grinderswitch)
Hey Good Lookin' (Elvin Bishop)
Searchin for a Rainbow (MTB)

Can anyone think of anything I'm missing? As of now I'm not including live stuff, but I've got the Winterland show and Volunteer Jam '75 if I change my mind about that. Thought about including Bougainvillea, but haven't decided if it fits my "theme". I can be weird about stuff like that LOL.

Anyhow, this is a pleasant 90 minutes, slightly longer than a cd. Feel free to steal it for yourself.


Stephen - 6/28/2020 at 02:55 AM

Melissa?? - hehe
List looks awesome - so leave it to me to jump the tracks & mention 11/3/74 Hempstead NY radio show - thatís real countryish (bluegrass) too


Dino - 6/28/2020 at 02:58 AM

Fantastic playlist and an enthusiastic vote for Bougainvillea!!


Looziana_Lou - 6/28/2020 at 03:03 AM

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Melissa?? - hehe


I only recently decided to add that one. I was initially avoiding Gregg songs but that guitar is too sweet to leave out. I'm thinking I should probably add Win Lose or Draw too.


blackey - 6/28/2020 at 03:13 AM

https://youtu.be/p2KytKfQ04g

1978 close enough?



[Edited on 6/28/2020 by blackey]

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Looziana_Lou - 6/28/2020 at 03:22 AM

Haven't decided if I'm adding Great Southern but if I do I'm thinking

Bougainvillea
The Way Love Goes
Shady Streets

And if I do that I may as well add Nancy too! This is gonna turn into a box set before I'm done


Stephen - 6/28/2020 at 03:25 AM

Gotcha, was thinking songs Dickey wrote/sang
I dunno, Melissa, WLorD, those I think of as ballads, w/out much of a country sound to my ears - sorta feel the same way about Jessica -

dig the exclusion of Blue Sky, itís often referred to as one of his countryish songs, I donít hear a trace of that tho
Just joy (Jessica) - & bliss (Blue Sky) - as only this band could do it


Looziana_Lou - 6/28/2020 at 03:32 AM

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Gotcha, was thinking songs Dickey wrote/sang

That was the original plan but I figure if I've got Charlie and Elvin in there, why not Gregg?

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I dunno, Melissa, WLorD, those I think of as ballads, w/out much of a country sound to my ears - sorta feel the same way about Jessica


You're not wrong, that's why I added the "-ish" qualifier. Hard for me to put into words, but there's just a certain sound I have in mind, which is why I'm reluctant to include Great Southern.

Put it this way-- His guitar sounds different on Highway Call as compared to Fillmore East. That's the sound I'm chasing.


Looziana_Lou - 6/28/2020 at 03:34 AM

And PS-- Blue Sky is Song #1. Leaving it off is just crazy talk, sir!

[Edited on 6/28/2020 by Looziana_Lou]


Looziana_Lou - 6/28/2020 at 03:49 AM

I'm pretty sure he was on a Hank Jr album during this era but I don't own it. Anybody familiar with that? I'm not sure how prominent Dickey is.


Stephen - 6/28/2020 at 04:12 AM

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And PS-- Blue Sky is Song #1. Leaving it off is just crazy talk, sir!

[Edited on 6/28/2020 by Looziana_Lou]


Holy makarel, Iím losin it - my bad!! :wattaclown :
But yeah, BSky doesnít have that same country-oriented sound as those other songs have - in the country vein, Good Time Feeling, from Ď78, is a Country-rock song (know you mentioned 1972-75)


BIGV - 6/28/2020 at 04:15 AM

"Out to get me"
"Good time feeling"
"Duane's tune"


robslob - 6/28/2020 at 09:59 AM

I always loved Just Another Love Song ..............to me a vastly underrated piece of songwriting.

As Vince mentioned, Out To Get Me, also California Blues from the same first Great Southern record.

[Edited on 6/28/2020 by robslob]


Looziana_Lou - 6/28/2020 at 12:00 PM

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I'm pretty sure he was on a Hank Jr album during this era but I don't own it. Anybody familiar with that? I'm not sure how prominent Dickey is.


So it appears that Dickey is not on the album I had in mind. Toy C, Charlie D and Chuck L all appear on "Hank Jr & Friends" but no Dickey.


blackey - 6/28/2020 at 04:08 PM

Dickey is on the 1986 album Montana Cafe by Hank Williams, Jr. Sings background vocal on Country State of Mind.


CrossEyedCat - 6/29/2020 at 09:49 AM

What about some tracks from the Kitty Wells album Dickey played on? You canít get much more country than Kitty Wells? It also fits in with the 72-75 timeline.


Looziana_Lou - 6/29/2020 at 12:27 PM

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What about some tracks from the Kitty Wells album Dickey played on? You canít get much more country than Kitty Wells? It also fits in with the 72-75 timeline.



That is indeed a fine album, but I've never been able to distinguish Dickey's presence on it. His contribution was low-key, to say the least.


Wayne - 6/29/2020 at 12:39 PM

Don't forget the song Nancy from the Dreams boxset, doesn't get any more country than that tune. The whole album from those sessions could be added. I have my copy somewhere on the shelf.


blackey - 6/29/2020 at 12:56 PM

The country album Dickey did with Nancy to be the first single never got a release. Gregg Allman bragged about it in a 1982 interview which is on YouTube saying he (Gregg) was certainly going to buy a copy. I always assumed Clive Davis and Arista Records unhappy with the sales of their two abb albums and the band's refusal to record the third album of the contract with a producer and creative input unwelcomed by the band had a part to play in the Nancy album not getting a release. Dickey was also under contract by Arista beginning with Dickey Betts and Great Southern in 1977.

I have a vinyl copy of Kitty Wells Capricorn album. It didn't sell so Capricorn didn't do a second one as far as I know. Dickey, if I remember correctly, is credited on dobro but I can spot Dickey on a solo either. But I do hear a Dobro on a couple of tracks in the rhythm mix so I assume that is Dickey. But no solo I noticed.


Wayne - 6/29/2020 at 01:08 PM

You should be able to find a copy of the album with Nancy on it in the Vines section, it has been in the trading circles for a long time. Even has nice cover art someone did for it.


Looziana_Lou - 6/29/2020 at 01:12 PM

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I have a vinyl copy of Kitty Wells Capricorn album. It didn't sell so Capricorn didn't do a second one as far as I know. Dickey, if I remember correctly, is credited on dobro but I can spot Dickey on a solo either. But I do hear a Dobro on a couple of tracks in the rhythm mix so I assume that is Dickey. But no solo I noticed.


The Kitty Wells album happens to be the very first thing I ever purchased via the internet, circa 2000. Anybody remember the GEMM website? Good times.

But yeah, I don't hear Dickey anywhere on it. There's a couple of licks that kind of sound like Toy Caldwell, who's also in the credits, but those aren't real prominent either. Clearly the focus was on Kitty, as it should be.


Wayne - 6/29/2020 at 01:14 PM

Here are the songs on the unreleased Betts country album, it is called "Night" in the trading circles.

1981 Nashville, TN Ė Dickey Betts (Producer: Chips Moman)
023 MOONLIGHT MAGIC unissued
024 I DON'T THINK I SEE ME IN YOUR EYES unissued
025 WHOLE LOTTA MEMORIES unissued
026 THE GARDEN OF THE RAINBOW LIGHT unissued
027 NANCY unissued
028 BLUE RIVER unissued
029 ALABAMA ROSE unissued
030 I BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT THIS TIME unissued


Looziana_Lou - 6/29/2020 at 01:15 PM

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Here are the songs on the unreleased Betts country album, it is called "Night" in the trading circles.

1981 Nashville, TN Ė Dickey Betts (Producer: Chips Moman)
023 MOONLIGHT MAGIC unissued
024 I DON'T THINK I SEE ME IN YOUR EYES unissued
025 WHOLE LOTTA MEMORIES unissued
026 THE GARDEN OF THE RAINBOW LIGHT unissued
027 NANCY unissued
028 BLUE RIVER unissued
029 ALABAMA ROSE unissued
030 I BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT THIS TIME unissued


Nice, thanks. I didn't realize it was widely circulated. That will be my homework for tonight.

EDIT: Well, that was fast. The entire thing is on Youtube. Can't believe I haven't encountered till now. Thanks again!

[Edited on 6/29/2020 by Looziana_Lou]


Wayne - 6/29/2020 at 01:20 PM

Cool, glad you found it, I remember enjoying it when i first got it, it has been awhile since i have listened to it all although I hear Nancy often when I play the Dreams albums.


Stephen - 6/29/2020 at 01:49 PM

Moonlight Magic is an awesome song - Emotion in music
Ups as always to the trading community

[Edited on 6/29/2020 by Stephen]


porkchopbob - 6/29/2020 at 02:04 PM

Here is a youtube playlist of the album NIGHT

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9Wy2t0R3TimFRkZ7SnQqqbm7Cr70hqvg

Interesting that this version of "Nancy" is different than the one included on Dreams, which has more polished production. Makes me think these are demos, and maybe there are even more polished versions of these songs.

[Edited on 6/29/2020 by porkchopbob]


blackey - 6/29/2020 at 02:36 PM

This is cool. The only track I heard was Nancy on the Dreams box set.

Anybody know exactly why it was never released? Clive Davis/Arista Records not interested with Dickey still under contract is my guess.

I remember Gregg solo at a theater in Winston Salem, North Carolina in early 1983 and he did a phone in to the rock radio station and said they parked the Allman Brothers due to changing musical tastes but mostly because the record label they went with after Capricorn kept sticking their nose in our recording sessions and the last one told is who the producer would be and he will help us update our sound so we can have some hits like the Doobie Brothers after they modified their sound with Michael McDonald. Gregg said Arista refuses to let us record our third album for them the way we want and we refuse to do it their way so Gregg said he is shut out of the studio right now until he can get out from under Arista Records.

So that was my guess as to why Dickey's solo album from 1981 never was released.


CrossEyedCat - 6/29/2020 at 04:19 PM

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I have a vinyl copy of Kitty Wells Capricorn album. It didn't sell so Capricorn didn't do a second one as far as I know. Dickey, if I remember correctly, is credited on dobro but I can spot Dickey on a solo either. But I do hear a Dobro on a couple of tracks in the rhythm mix so I assume that is Dickey. But no solo I noticed.


The Kitty Wells album happens to be the very first thing I ever purchased via the internet, circa 2000. Anybody remember the GEMM website? Good times.

But yeah, I don't hear Dickey anywhere on it. There's a couple of licks that kind of sound like Toy Caldwell, who's also in the credits, but those aren't real prominent either. Clearly the focus was on Kitty, as it should be.


Tommy Talton is also credited for playing dobro on that album along with Dickey.

I had a quick look on discogs https://www.discogs.com/Kitty-Wells-Forever-Young/release/3899250

There's an asterix against Dickey's name and also an asterix against three tracks on side 2 so I'm guessing these are the ones Dickey played on. Could easier be wrong though.


oldcoot - 6/29/2020 at 06:09 PM

Another obscure entry.

Both Gregg & Dickey appear on Gary Stewart's album "Cactus & A Rose."

Although he doesn't appear on it, Hank Jr. covered Dickey's "I Got A Right To Be Wrong" on the album "Rowdy."


Wayne - 6/29/2020 at 07:28 PM

"Hank Williams Junior-Junior" (with Dickey Betts & Kris Kristofferson) (Dickey Betts, Bonnie Bramlett) Ė 2:44

David Allen Coe's album I've Got Something to Say, Dickey sings and plays on that cut.


masbama - 6/30/2020 at 03:11 AM

This should be included. May be Dickeyís best non ABB solo.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22SunTYc-sE&app=desktop&persist_app =1


blackey - 6/30/2020 at 11:36 AM

Great clarinet solo too and unmistakably Dickey Betts. Like some other guitar greats, Dickey has is own unique style and sound. You can tell it's Dickey when Dickey solos right off.

I'm rather sure this track was recorded about 1996 or 1997 and is on a various artists album that features the songs of the great Jimmy Rogers, the great yodeling western swing singer and song writer.


GuitarPlaynTaylor - 7/3/2020 at 01:31 PM

Hank Jr also covered Long Time gone and Dickey def plays lead on it. maybe around 1976ish?


BIGV - 7/3/2020 at 06:31 PM

"Rock Bottom"
https://youtu.be/JK6U-y1o7hQ


Looziana_Lou - 7/3/2020 at 08:45 PM

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Hank Jr also covered Long Time gone and Dickey def plays lead on it. maybe around 1976ish?


https://youtu.be/212bcHf2B8Y

Thank you sir!
Did some research-- the only album this appears on is a compilation called "Roots and Branches" which covers the years 1963-75. So it would appear to be an outtake from the "...And Friends" album that also included Toy and Charlie, et al. I haven't been able to confirm that it's Dickey playing the solo but it certainly sounds like him. Nice find.


redhouse1969 - 7/3/2020 at 08:49 PM

it's too late to go home early tonight... Dickey Betts Band

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YESH2zhbwc


Stephen - 7/3/2020 at 09:08 PM

Dickey does a couple of nice guest spots on Pedro & Friends Too, esp My Babyís Gone - that is a Fine CD, everyone is on it, great vibe :chillzone: & their take of Hendrixí My Friend Fits Right In

Pedro Arevalo has sort of become a forgotten man seems to me - hope this great musician is well & happy, I just donít keep up as well w/music as I used to

[Edited on 7/3/2020 by Stephen]


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