Thread: Derek Trucks reflects on Gregg Allmans life advice and legacy

pops42 - 5/21/2020 at 07:16 PM

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/derek-trucks-reflects-on- gregg-allmans-life-advice-and-legacy-195079/


OldDog - 5/21/2020 at 08:04 PM

Moving and wonderful. Derek has always had his act together and it shows.


stormyrider - 5/21/2020 at 08:23 PM

great article!


JimSheridan - 5/21/2020 at 09:30 PM

People have spoken intelligently about how the "younger" generation of musicians - Derek, Jimmy, Warren, Oteil, Jack - have stood musically on the shoulders of giants. They learned great lessons by playing some of the greatest music of all time.

I also think that in some ways, they learned some other lessons too. I don't know for a fact, but I feel like these guys get better legal and financial counsel so that they will not face the despair of getting screwed out of their earnings, or out of being forced to work under bad conditions.

I think they pick management / labels better so that they don't face the pressure that the Arista-era ABB faced.

And I think they have learned some wisdom about how egos, personal demons, and substances can really mess up a band or a partnership, or affect a person's playing or creativity.

There is a gloriousness to fire and fury and recklessness and swagger that makes for some great music for sure. The flame that burns brights burns out quickest and all of that.

But there is a beauty to the thoughtfulness that drives some of these "next generation" guys and their decisions, and I feel like it appears in every aspect of what we see Derek doing, from his astonishing leads to his smooth band leadership to his thoughtful ensemble playing to the way they treat their audience to the way he delivers his ideas in interviews.


tcatanesi - 5/21/2020 at 11:12 PM

Derek is thoughtful, well-spoken, and one heck of a guitar player. Tune in tonight:

Swamp Family TV:
May 17, 2019 at the Orpheum Theatre, Los Angeles, CA
Tonight on Swamp Family TV, we're bound for California for TTB's May 17, 2019 concert at the Orpheum Theatre in Los Angeles.


blackey - 5/22/2020 at 01:07 AM

Derek is indeed in awe of Gregg Allman, Duane Allman and the original band. Derek says those great songs and arrangements were created before he was born. Derek in other interviews talked about how he wore out At Fillmore East soaking up Duane Allman's slide and lead playing. Derek knew the Allman Brothers was a big time band and Gregg and Dickey were rock stars to many people and they were wealthy and Duane Allman was a guitar icon who placed 2nd to Jimi Hendrix out of 100 players in Rolling Stones. Derek says you can't have the Allman Brothers without Gregg and Butch. Duane isn't here and now neither is Gregg!! That some people argue that you can have an Allman Brothers without Duane AND Gregg but Derek doesn't buy it. But that was before the Madison Square Garden gig but it wasn't called the Allman Brothers but Jaimoe was there and Derek himself called Dickey encouraging Dickey to be there. Derek Trucks realised what was created and played in hundreds of shows between 1969 to 1971 was a very big deal that 51 years later is still scared and revered by millions.

But JimShearidan is right. Derek and the other younger members of the band also learned not to make the mistakes of the original members. Derek Trucks probably wouldn't have driven his motorcycle aggressively like Duane did. Gregg said Duane hsd two speeds. Parked and wide open. And Duane was a drug user and went into rehab. Has Derek Trucks or Warren even checked into rehab??? Otiel wouldn't have hit that Macon city bus like Berry Oakley. Warren Haynes while not as rich as Dickey, wouldn't have drank alchohol to excess, and gotten strung out on drugs like Dickey and Gregg and Warren didn't do all the reckless things the original band did. Warren and Derek didn't get covered in tattoos, ( I have some so not complaining),catch Hep C, have tons of failed marriages, pull a knife on the band's bass player, shove a policeman and get thrown in jail. Warren, Derek, Jack, Otiel ever get thrown in jail? Check into rehab? Too high or drunk to play well like Gregg, Dickey and Berry? I'll stop there but there is much more that could be added.

I'm not criticizing Gregg and Dickey. Duane and Berry. Butch with his problems. It's happened to many, many rock and blues icons and Hank William's, Sr too. Jerry Garcia was richer that Dickey Betts yet lived just as recklessly. I remember reading when Jerry died at age 53 he was in rehab for the 50th time and the autopsy doctor said 53 year old Jerry Garcia internally was like AN 83 YEAR OLD MAN!! Jim Morrison, Janice Joplin and dozens of incredibly talented musicians and song writers became serious drug addicts and alcoholics and died young.

So far the younger generation members of the Allman Brothers have avoided being drunks and drug addicts and bad business and label deals and marriages and if they do live into their mid 70's probably will still be playing at a good level. Dickey can't play well now and Gregg didn't make it to mid 70's largely to lifestyle choices. Jerry Garcia didn't make it to 55. How Keith Richards is still alive is a miracle!!!!!

It seems Duane Betts, Devon Allman, Berry Oakley, Jr are avoiding all those pitfalls and failures too. Good for them. Eddy Shaver, great guitar player, dead at age 38 of a heroin overdose is another tragedy. The great Irish guitarist, Gary Moore, whom Andy Aledort said was one of the best rock guitarists we've ever had...drank himself to death at age 58!

I'm glad Dickey is a millionaire many times over and lives in a beautiful mansion with a swimming pool, boat and a nearby private island. He deserves all that just for writing Blue Sky one of the greatest songs ever. The melody makes me smile and feel good every time for almost 50 years. I hope Derek and Warren become that well off and they are millionaires now. Not as rich as Dickey but in great shape. And the pretty part is they avoided all the drama and embarrassments and arrests and rehabs. Rock on boys!


masbama - 5/22/2020 at 01:56 PM

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Derek is indeed in awe of Gregg Allman, Duane Allman and the original band. Derek says those great songs and arrangements were created before he was born. Derek in other interviews talked about how he wore out At Fillmore East soaking up Duane Allman's slide and lead playing. Derek knew the Allman Brothers was a big time band and Gregg and Dickey were rock stars to many people and they were wealthy and Duane Allman was a guitar icon who placed 2nd to Jimi Hendrix out of 100 players in Rolling Stones. Derek says you can't have the Allman Brothers without Gregg and Butch. Duane isn't here and now neither is Gregg!! That some people argue that you can have an Allman Brothers without Duane AND Gregg but Derek doesn't buy it. But that was before the Madison Square Garden gig but it wasn't called the Allman Brothers but Jaimoe was there and Derek himself called Dickey encouraging Dickey to be there. Derek Trucks realised what was created and played in hundreds of shows between 1969 to 1971 was a very big deal that 51 years later is still scared and revered by millions.

But JimShearidan is right. Derek and the other younger members of the band also learned not to make the mistakes of the original members. Derek Trucks probably wouldn't have driven his motorcycle aggressively like Duane did. Gregg said Duane hsd two speeds. Parked and wide open. And Duane was a drug user and went into rehab. Has Derek Trucks or Warren even checked into rehab??? Otiel wouldn't have hit that Macon city bus like Berry Oakley. Warren Haynes while not as rich as Dickey, wouldn't have drank alchohol to excess, and gotten strung out on drugs like Dickey and Gregg and Warren didn't do all the reckless things the original band did. Warren and Derek didn't get covered in tattoos, ( I have some so not complaining),catch Hep C, have tons of failed marriages, pull a knife on the band's bass player, shove a policeman and get thrown in jail. Warren, Derek, Jack, Otiel ever get thrown in jail? Check into rehab? Too high or drunk to play well like Gregg, Dickey and Berry? I'll stop there but there is much more that could be added.

I'm not criticizing Gregg and Dickey. Duane and Berry. Butch with his problems. It's happened to many, many rock and blues icons and Hank William's, Sr too. Jerry Garcia was richer that Dickey Betts yet lived just as recklessly. I remember reading when Jerry died at age 53 he was in rehab for the 50th time and the autopsy doctor said 53 year old Jerry Garcia internally was like AN 83 YEAR OLD MAN!! Jim Morrison, Janice Joplin and dozens of incredibly talented musicians and song writers became serious drug addicts and alcoholics and died young.

So far the younger generation members of the Allman Brothers have avoided being drunks and drug addicts and bad business and label deals and marriages and if they do live into their mid 70's probably will still be playing at a good level. Dickey can't play well now and Gregg didn't make it to mid 70's largely to lifestyle choices. Jerry Garcia didn't make it to 55. How Keith Richards is still alive is a miracle!!!!!

It seems Duane Betts, Devon Allman, Berry Oakley, Jr are avoiding all those pitfalls and failures too. Good for them. Eddy Shaver, great guitar player, dead at age 38 of a heroin overdose is another tragedy. The great Irish guitarist, Gary Moore, whom Andy Aledort said was one of the best rock guitarists we've ever had...drank himself to death at age 58!

I'm glad Dickey is a millionaire many times over and lives in a beautiful mansion with a swimming pool, boat and a nearby private island. He deserves all that just for writing Blue Sky one of the greatest songs ever. The melody makes me smile and feel good every time for almost 50 years. I hope Derek and Warren become that well off and they are millionaires now. Not as rich as Dickey but in great shape. And the pretty part is they avoided all the drama and embarrassments and arrests and rehabs. Rock on boys!


Great stuff Blackey!


DeadMallard - 5/22/2020 at 06:51 PM

Classy man

Thanks for the link.


islalala - 5/23/2020 at 07:22 PM

Thanks - I recall this interview and it was nice to revisit it.

I also recall that CBS Morning interview which Derek cites and revisited that, as well.

Just as awkward and borderline in-appropriate of that female correspondent as I remember from the first time, maybe even more this time.

Sure, she was worried about Gregg. OK.....

And BS was she going to show up at the Beacon. Was she insinuating black people don't go to Gregg's shows? Sure seemed like it.

[Edited on 5/23/2020 by islalala]


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