That's too funny!
I mean that kind of thinking is pervasive in Washington, especially among Democrats...."We should probably ____________, but Conservatives might complain about the cost." That's always at the top of their mind for sure.
Tell me another one.
[Edited on 7/8/2015 by alloak41]
Trump is correct, we shouldn't be some kind of dumping ground. Get selective with a sensible and reasonable immigration policy. Stop the inflow and select what we need. Take a pass on the disease, criminal backgrounds, and dead wood clogging up the hospitals and prisons. We already have enough dead wood. Start deporting the illegal aliens in our prison system and ban their return.
Do you happen to know the amount of violent crimes committed by illegal immigrants as compared to violent crimes committed by American citizens? I do not, hoping you do.
Trump is correct, we shouldn't be some kind of dumping ground. Get selective with a sensible and reasonable immigration policy. Stop the inflow and select what we need. Take a pass on the disease, criminal backgrounds, and dead wood clogging up the hospitals and prisons. We already have enough dead wood. Start deporting the illegal aliens in our prison system and ban their return.
Do you happen to know the amount of violent crimes committed by illegal immigrants as compared to violent crimes committed by American citizens? I do not, hoping you do.
Violent crimes committed by people who shouldn't be here in the first place as compared to American citizens? No, but I'm sure someone is getting ready to tell me that more violent crimes are committed by American citizens.
Trump is correct, we shouldn't be some kind of dumping ground. Get selective with a sensible and reasonable immigration policy. Stop the inflow and select what we need. Take a pass on the disease, criminal backgrounds, and dead wood clogging up the hospitals and prisons. We already have enough dead wood. Start deporting the illegal aliens in our prison system and ban their return.
Do you happen to know the amount of violent crimes committed by illegal immigrants as compared to violent crimes committed by American citizens? I do not, hoping you do.
Violent crimes committed by people who shouldn't be here in the first place as compared to American citizens? No, but I'm sure someone is getting ready to tell me that more violent crimes are committed by American citizens.
I don't know. That's why I asked. I think if a Presidential candidate is going to force this issue to the forefront then the actual impact of said issue should at least be measured, no?
Trump is correct, we shouldn't be some kind of dumping ground. Get selective with a sensible and reasonable immigration policy. Stop the inflow and select what we need. Take a pass on the disease, criminal backgrounds, and dead wood clogging up the hospitals and prisons. We already have enough dead wood. Start deporting the illegal aliens in our prison system and ban their return.
Do you happen to know the amount of violent crimes committed by illegal immigrants as compared to violent crimes committed by American citizens? I do not, hoping you do.
Violent crimes committed by people who shouldn't be here in the first place as compared to American citizens? No, but I'm sure someone is getting ready to tell me that more violent crimes are committed by American citizens.
I don't know. That's why I asked. I think if a Presidential candidate is going to force this issue to the forefront then the actual impact of said issue should at least be measured, no?
I would imagine this stat would be brought to the forefront by a candidate seeking to minimize or neutralize violent crime committed by illegal aliens on society at large. Probably by a candidate who doesn't favor strong border enforcement. Never mind that the violent act could have been prevented by tightening down existing immigration policy and enforcement.
BTW, I did see that crimes committed by illegals costs us north of $116 Billion per year.
Trump is correct, we shouldn't be some kind of dumping ground. Get selective with a sensible and reasonable immigration policy. Stop the inflow and select what we need. Take a pass on the disease, criminal backgrounds, and dead wood clogging up the hospitals and prisons. We already have enough dead wood. Start deporting the illegal aliens in our prison system and ban their return.
Do you happen to know the amount of violent crimes committed by illegal immigrants as compared to violent crimes committed by American citizens? I do not, hoping you do.
Violent crimes committed by people who shouldn't be here in the first place as compared to American citizens? No, but I'm sure someone is getting ready to tell me that more violent crimes are committed by American citizens.
I don't know. That's why I asked. I think if a Presidential candidate is going to force this issue to the forefront then the actual impact of said issue should at least be measured, no?
I would imagine this stat would be brought to the forefront by a candidate seeking to minimize or neutralize violent crime committed by illegal aliens on society at large. Probably by a candidate who doesn't favor strong border enforcement. Never mind that the violent act could have been prevented by tightening down existing immigration policy and enforcement.
BTW, I did see that crimes committed by illegals costs us north of $116 Billion per year.
Ok, cool. Thanks.
Here's an idea. Before deportation, pull all the illegal aliens out of prison and put them to work building additional fencing on the border to help pay their prison tab.
I think you should send that idea to Trump as he would be all over it. Been a few days since he said something outrageous to get some press so he can use your help.
Thanks. Hoover Dam probably started out as an outrageous idea as well.
O.K. how about this then Trumo can employ them to build his fancy hotels. he gets cheap labour and can brag he is creating jobs here in the U.S.. Seems like a win win to me
This is still the United States and we can win at this stuff. We have the manpower, technology, any and all necessary assets to get the job done. That's why Trump is resonating. That attitude and spirit still means something to an awful lot of people. All that's lacking is the want-to of those currently in charge.
Still the United States? What does that mean? I'll admit we are leading the world in arms sales and the amount of our citizens we imprison...
Other than that we are no shining star. Our kids are getting stupider and stupider. I know you blame the Department of Education, but getting rid of the Dept of Education is no solution to our educational woes.
Our decaying infrastructure, slow internet, poor schools has led to the United States circling the drain. Even with the most expensive military in the history of the world we can't even win a war. I don't know what you mean when you say "This is still the United States and we can win at this stuff." I don't see us winning at much.
Look at these education rankings:
This is still the United States and we can win at this stuff. We have the manpower, technology, any and all necessary assets to get the job done. That's why Trump is resonating. That attitude and spirit still means something to an awful lot of people. All that's lacking is the want-to of those currently in charge.
Still the United States? What does that mean? I'll admit we are leading the world in arms sales and the amount of our citizens we imprison...
Other than that we are no shining star. Our kids are getting stupider and stupider. I know you blame the Department of Education, but getting rid of the Dept of Education is no solution to our educational woes.
Our decaying infrastructure, slow internet, poor schools has led to the United States circling the drain. Even with the most expensive military in the history of the world we can't even win a war. I don't know what you mean when you say "This is still the United States and we can win at this stuff." I don't see us winning at much.
Look at these education rankings:
Ok, after reading that would be a good time to play "Keep on Rocking in the Free World" :-/
Trump is correct, we shouldn't be some kind of dumping ground. Get selective with a sensible and reasonable immigration policy. Stop the inflow and select what we need. Take a pass on the disease, criminal backgrounds, and dead wood clogging up the hospitals and prisons. We already have enough dead wood. Start deporting the illegal aliens in our prison system and ban their return.
Do you happen to know the amount of violent crimes committed by illegal immigrants as compared to violent crimes committed by American citizens? I do not, hoping you do.
Violent crimes committed by people who shouldn't be here in the first place as compared to American citizens? No, but I'm sure someone is getting ready to tell me that more violent crimes are committed by American citizens.
I don't know. That's why I asked. I think if a Presidential candidate is going to force this issue to the forefront then the actual impact of said issue should at least be measured, no?
Here is an interesting article based on actual data:
Trump is correct, we shouldn't be some kind of dumping ground. Get selective with a sensible and reasonable immigration policy. Stop the inflow and select what we need. Take a pass on the disease, criminal backgrounds, and dead wood clogging up the hospitals and prisons. We already have enough dead wood. Start deporting the illegal aliens in our prison system and ban their return.
Do you happen to know the amount of violent crimes committed by illegal immigrants as compared to violent crimes committed by American citizens? I do not, hoping you do.
Violent crimes committed by people who shouldn't be here in the first place as compared to American citizens? No, but I'm sure someone is getting ready to tell me that more violent crimes are committed by American citizens.
I don't know. That's why I asked. I think if a Presidential candidate is going to force this issue to the forefront then the actual impact of said issue should at least be measured, no?
Here is an interesting article based on actual data:
It is actual data, but it is from 2006.
Trump interview - Laughable. Nobody impresses Trump more than Trump. He comes off as bitter, negative, insulting, and condescending. He trashes everybody. He has all the answers to immigration...right. He lobs all kinds of generalizations that he can't backup. He claims he will win the Latino vote. This is a first tier candidate of the GOP...ha ha.
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/watch-the-full-unedited-donald-trump-interview-480244291643
Trump interview - Laughable. Nobody impresses Trump more than Trump. He comes off as bitter, negative, insulting, and condescending. He trashes everybody. He has all the answers to immigration...right. He lobs all kinds of generalizations that he can't backup. He claims he will win the Latino vote. This is a first tier candidate of the GOP...ha ha.
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/watch-the-full-unedited-donald-trump-interview-480244291643/blockquote >
If God were to appear tomorrow and disagree with Trump he would call God stupid and uninformed and weak. Trump has zero respect for anyone but himself. He is a pompous idiot who loves bragging about all of his successes but always leaves out his myriad of failures. Anyone who could show that kind of distain and disrespect to a woman reporter interviewing them has no place anywhere near any kind of leadership position much less President of the USA.
Anyone who could show that kind of distain and disrespect to a woman reporter interviewing them has no place anywhere near any kind of leadership position much less President of the USA.
The traditional mainstream media doesn't deserve any respect. They continue to fail the country badly. She was lucky to get the interview.
Obvious troll is obviously obvious.
So Trumps latest rant is he claims if nominated he will get the Mexican vote. His rational is that he has many "legal" Mexicans working for him who love him and he loves them.
Every time he opens his mouth it is comedy gold. The GOP has to be cringing every time this guy gets interviewed. If there is a god all I ask is please let him last until the GOP debates. Please!!
The chairman of the RNC doesn't seem to find Trump to be amusing.
The truth is going out of style. It can be too "inflammatory."
The chairman of the RNC doesn't seem to find Trump to be amusing.
I don't know what he is worried about as Mexicans love Trump.......just ask him...........
The truth is going out of style. It can be too "inflammatory."
Yeah right because all Mexicans who come here are criminals and rapists...and that is the truth according to Trump..........yeah that's the tickets........
The chairman of the RNC doesn't seem to find Trump to be amusing.
The Donald tells a different story...
Trump: RNC call was 'congratulatory'
(CNN)Donald Trump is pushing back against reports that Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus voiced concerns to him about the billionaire's tone when talking about undocumented immigrants during a Wednesday phone call.
Trump instead told CNN on Thursday the call had a "congratulatory" tone -- but conceded that Priebus suggested he "tone it down a little bit."
"He did say, 'you know, you could keep it down a little bit, but you can't change your personality and I understand that.' It was really a nice call, a congratulatory call," Trump told CNN.
Trump said Priebus congratulated him on his surge in the polls, telling Trump that he's "literally not seen anything like this."
The RNC declined comment on Thursday on Trump's version of events.
The Washington Post first reported Priebus' phone call to Trump.
A Republican source familiar with the call told CNN on Wednesday that Priebus expressed his concern to Trump during the call and that they discussed a range of topics.
"Look, I've gotta tell you, I spent four years trying to make inroads with the Hispanic community ... how we address illegal immigration is very important," to winning back Hispanics politically, Priebus said at the end of the call, according to the GOP source.
Trump first told CNN he may have brought up the issue of immigration himself, mentioning the San Francisco shooting at the hands of an illegal immigrant. The bombastic businessman also insisted he would "win the Hispanic vote" because he will create the most jobs of any presidential candidate.
Trump calls out Rubio for being 'weak' on immigration, praises Cruz
And Trump gave an emphatic "no" when asked if his comments hurt the GOP's efforts to make inroads with Hispanic voters.
Earlier on Thursday, Trump tweeted that the media had "totally false reporting" on his call with Priebus, suggesting the RNC chief didn't suggest toning down his immigration remarks.
"He called me, ten minutes, said I hit a "nerve", doing well, end!" Trump tweeted.
But a source said on Wednesday night that Priebus was returning a message from Trump, who sits second in the race for the 2016 GOP presidential nomination, according to recent national polling. The source said Priebus did not initiate the call to chastise the billionaire reality TV star.
"They had a respectful discussion across a wide range of issues including illegal immigration," Sean Spicer, an RNC spokesman, told CNN on Wednesday.
During Trump's announcement speech he -- now infamously -- talked about Mexican undocumented immigrants being "rapists "and "criminals."
In the 2012 presidential election, Mitt Romney won only 27% of the Hispanic vote after using harsh terms during the GOP primary like self-deportation.
After that stinging loss, Priebus commissioned a so-called autopsy to analyze how Republicans could re-capture the White House. The subsequent report said Republicans must change their language and approach in the Hispanic community in order to win over voters.
Macy's dumps Donald Trump
Another top Republican distanced himself from Trump on Thursday: House Speaker John Boehner.
"I disagree with Mr. Trump's comments," Boehner said Thursday at his weekly press conference. "When you look at the presidential candidates, they've all pretty well made their position clear (on immigration)."
Boehner, who has been repeatedly thwarted by his own party on efforts to move immigration reform legislation said, "This has become the biggest political football I've seen in my Congressional career. This whole issue of illegal immigration and what to do about it."
[Edited on 7/9/2015 by gondicar]
The truth is going out of style. It can be too "inflammatory."
Yeah right because all Mexicans who come here are criminals and rapists...and that is the truth according to Trump..........yeah that's the tickets........
Trump didn't say "all." You did. And you wonder what Priebus is worried about?
You might not like the way Trump said it and that's fair, but did he lie? Read the exact quote and show us where he lied. He didn't.
The truth is going out of style. It can be too "inflammatory."
Yeah right because all Mexicans who come here are criminals and rapists...and that is the truth according to Trump..........yeah that's the tickets........
Trump didn't say "all." You did. And you wonder what Priebus is worried about?
You might not like the way Trump said it and that's fair, but did he lie? Read the exact quote and show us where he lied. He didn't.
Yup I apologize as he did say he assumes some must be good people. Not quite a ringing endorsement but guess he is willing to give "some" the benefit of the doubt.
"When Mexico sends its people," Trump said during his presidential announcement, "they're not sending the best. They're not sending you, they're sending people that have lots of problems and they're bringing those problems. They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime. They're rapists and some, I assume, are good people, but I speak to border guards and they're telling us what we're getting."
He did not lie because I think he actually believes Mexico sends their people here like some sort of invading army and that the majority are criminals and rapists. Considering he provided no proof, other than some vague statement about getting his intell from border guards, that the majority of illegals are criminals and rapist I feel comfortable saying he was talking out his arse.
[Edited on 7/9/2015 by Bill_Graham]
You see, what we get is a temporary (intentional) inability to understand the English language when it suits us. For instance, Trump said Mexico is not sending it's best, meaning he must know that a "best" exists or he wouldn't have said so. Correct?
Now how could he have said there is a "best" and at the same time say they're "all" rapists, criminals, ect? It's impossible. Probably because he DIDN'T SAY "all" Mexicans are anything whatsoever. Never said it.
You see, what we get is a temporary (intentional) inability to understand the English language when it suits us. For instance, Trump said Mexico is not sending it's best, meaning he must know that a "best" exists or he wouldn't have said so. Correct?
Now how could he have said there is a "best" and at the same time say they're "all" rapists, criminals, ect? It's impossible. Probably because he DIDN'T SAY "all" Mexicans are anything whatsoever. Never said it.
Simple really. He said they are keeping the best in Mexico and sending the worst to the U.S. I think your ability to understand the English language is in question here.
The GOP has to be cringing every time this guy gets interviewed.
Y'know, I don't think so. Looking at the usual barometers of such things he's doing quite well with the base.
It doesn't really matter what the people who would never vote for him anyway think of what he says.
Pretty much the perfect GOP candidate so far, and Jeb is showing a penchant for verbal missteps.
15 months to go and with the American attention span the election might as well be in the year 2184 at this point, but Trump is doing just fine.
The GOP has to be cringing every time this guy gets interviewed.
Y'know, I don't think so. Looking at the usual barometers of such things he's doing quite well with the base.
It doesn't really matter what the people who would never vote for him anyway think of what he says.
Pretty much the perfect GOP candidate so far, and Jeb is showing a penchant for verbal missteps.
15 months to go and with the American attention span the election might as well be in the year 2184 at this point, but Trump is doing just fine.
With the number of Republican candidates, all he needs is maybe 20% of the GOP vote to win the nomination (or less than 10% of the general population). I could possibly see him getting that. I don't think he could win a general election though.
The GOP has to be cringing every time this guy gets interviewed.
Y'know, I don't think so. Looking at the usual barometers of such things he's doing quite well with the base.
It doesn't really matter what the people who would never vote for him anyway think of what he says.
Pretty much the perfect GOP candidate so far, and Jeb is showing a penchant for verbal missteps.
15 months to go and with the American attention span the election might as well be in the year 2184 at this point, but Trump is doing just fine.
With the number of Republican candidates, all he needs is maybe 20% of the GOP vote to win the nomination (or less than 10% of the general population). I could possibly see him getting that. I don't think he could win a general election though.
He'll fade away before the snow falls. His current 15 minute clock has the big hand on 11.
The GOP has to be cringing every time this guy gets interviewed.
Y'know, I don't think so. Looking at the usual barometers of such things he's doing quite well with the base.
It doesn't really matter what the people who would never vote for him anyway think of what he says.
Pretty much the perfect GOP candidate so far, and Jeb is showing a penchant for verbal missteps.
15 months to go and with the American attention span the election might as well be in the year 2184 at this point, but Trump is doing just fine.
With the number of Republican candidates, all he needs is maybe 20% of the GOP vote to win the nomination (or less than 10% of the general population). I could possibly see him getting that. I don't think he could win a general election though.
He'll fade away before the snow falls. His current 15 minute clock has the big hand on 11.
Here's the thing. He comes off as a richer version of Maine's Governor, Paul LePage (you may have noticed me posting about him in another thread). So much about the two of them seems exactly the same, in so many ways it is creepy. And Paul LePage managed to get himself elected governor not once but TWICE. Now, LePage was helped in a big way by the fact that Maine elects with a plurality rather than a majority and independent candidates split the moderate and democrat votes in both elections (and the fact that the dems ran horrible candidates as well, IMO). He's a bully who can't control his mouth and has been scapegoating immigrants for all of Maine's problems for months, and he may end up getting impeached before the end of his term, but still he got elected. So, people who don't like Trump should not take him too lightly. Just sayin'.
