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BillyBlastoff
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Perfect choice for Bernie. After all, Socialism is all about freedom.

Hey alloak... What do you mean when you say "Socialism is all about freedom"?

I'm dying to hear.


 
Posted : June 23, 2015 7:45 pm
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Perfect choice for Bernie. After all, Socialism is all about freedom.

Hey alloak... What do you mean when you say "Socialism is all about freedom"?

I'm dying to hear.

Pretty ironic choice for Mr. Sanders campaign.


 
Posted : June 23, 2015 7:57 pm
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I'll ask again...

Hey alloak... What do you mean when you say, "Socialism is all about freedom?"


 
Posted : June 23, 2015 8:31 pm
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Perfect choice for Bernie. After all, Socialism is all about freedom.

Hey alloak... What do you mean when you say "Socialism is all about freedom"?

I'm dying to hear.

Pretty ironic choice for Mr. Sanders campaign.

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Yet again it flies right over the heads of our liberals friends.
Man they have some funny colored glasses on.

RIP Capt’n Skipper


 
Posted : June 24, 2015 6:34 am
gondicar
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Perfect choice for Bernie. After all, Socialism is all about freedom.

Hey alloak... What do you mean when you say "Socialism is all about freedom"?

I'm dying to hear.

Pretty ironic choice for Mr. Sanders campaign.

_________________________________________________________________________

Yet again it flies right over the heads of our liberals friends.
Man they have some funny colored glasses on.

RIP Capt’n Skipper

Actually, given the lyrics of the song, it seems to be flying over your and alloak's heads.


 
Posted : June 24, 2015 7:17 am
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I'll ask again...

Hey alloak... What do you mean when you say, "Socialism is all about freedom."???


 
Posted : June 24, 2015 1:44 pm
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I'll ask again...

Hey alloak... What do you mean when you say, "Socialism is all about freedom."???

That's a good one. I'd like to see that answer also.

The question has evolved to, "Is alloak going to actually give you an answer?"

Odds are 5 to 1 on the "no" side. I hope to be proven wrong with him providing a real answer; not some attempt at humor.


 
Posted : June 24, 2015 1:59 pm
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I'm thinking he won't answer either. I really want to know why he thinks freedom and Socialism are mutually exclusive.


 
Posted : June 24, 2015 2:19 pm
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I'll ask again...

Hey alloak... What do you mean when you say, "Socialism is all about freedom."???

That's a good one. I'd like to see that answer also.

The question has evolved to, "Is alloak going to actually give you an answer?"

Odds are 5 to 1 on the "no" side. I hope to be proven wrong with him providing a real answer; not some attempt at humor.

He won't answer. He loves making these off the cuff remarks and when called on them, he deflects. He has turned into Muleman Lite.

His next post will tell us this thread is not about him, even though he tries to be the comic opening act. 😛


 
Posted : June 24, 2015 2:39 pm
MartinD28
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I'll ask again...

Hey alloak... What do you mean when you say, "Socialism is all about freedom."???

That's a good one. I'd like to see that answer also.

The question has evolved to, "Is alloak going to actually give you an answer?"

Odds are 5 to 1 on the "no" side. I hope to be proven wrong with him providing a real answer; not some attempt at humor.

He won't answer. He loves making these off the cuff remarks and when called on them, he deflects. He has turned into Muleman Lite.

His next post will tell us this thread is not about him, even though he tries to be the comic opening act. 😛

Muleman Lite - Is that a new brand of beer sold exclusively to "typical liberals"? 😛


 
Posted : June 24, 2015 2:45 pm
jkeller
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I'll ask again...

Hey alloak... What do you mean when you say, "Socialism is all about freedom."???

That's a good one. I'd like to see that answer also.

The question has evolved to, "Is alloak going to actually give you an answer?"

Odds are 5 to 1 on the "no" side. I hope to be proven wrong with him providing a real answer; not some attempt at humor.

He won't answer. He loves making these off the cuff remarks and when called on them, he deflects. He has turned into Muleman Lite.

His next post will tell us this thread is not about him, even though he tries to be the comic opening act. 😛

Muleman Lite - Is that a new brand of beer sold exclusively to "typical liberals"? 😛

It is an empty bottle that we liberals are waiting for the government to fill.


 
Posted : June 24, 2015 3:09 pm
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I'm thinking he won't answer either. I really want to know why he thinks freedom and Socialism are mutually exclusive.

Socialism is not exactly synonymous with freedom, thus an odd choice for Sanders to use. If you disagree with this opinion that's perfectly fine with me.


 
Posted : June 24, 2015 5:33 pm
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Denmark, Canada, Finland, Netherlands,Sweden, Norway, Ireland, New Zealand, Belgium...

These are considered some of the top Socialist countries.

What freedoms do Americans enjoy that the citizens of these countries don't have access to?

I think your opinion is based in ignorance.


 
Posted : June 24, 2015 7:34 pm
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Denmark, Canada, Finland, Netherlands,Sweden, Norway, Ireland, New Zealand, Belgium...

These are considered some of the top Socialist countries.

What freedoms do Americans enjoy that the citizens of these countries don't have access to?

I think your opinion is based in ignorance.

Fine.

Are you backing Sanders?


 
Posted : June 24, 2015 7:37 pm
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Denmark, Canada, Finland, Netherlands,Sweden, Norway, Ireland, New Zealand, Belgium...

These are considered some of the top Socialist countries.

What freedoms do Americans enjoy that the citizens of these countries don't have access to?

I think your opinion is based in ignorance.

Fine.

Are you backing Sanders?

Swing and a miss.


 
Posted : June 24, 2015 8:03 pm
BillyBlastoff
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Seriously alloak... You infer that freedom and socialism are mutually exclusive... Why do you associate tyranny with Socialism?


 
Posted : June 24, 2015 8:12 pm
alloak41
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Seriously alloak... You infer that freedom and socialism are mutually exclusive... Why do you associate tyranny with Socialism?

Why do you associate mixed economic systems with pure socialism?


 
Posted : June 24, 2015 8:27 pm
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Answer the question alloak.

Those countries are all considered Socialist. Can you name any non-mixed economic system?

You alleged yourself to be an educated man. You infer that Bernie Sanders is somehow going to take away our freedoms with Socialism.

How does an educated man come to that fanciful conclusion?


 
Posted : June 24, 2015 8:46 pm
alloak41
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Answer the question alloak.

Those countries are all considered Socialist. Can you name any non-mixed economic system?

You alleged yourself to be an educated man. You infer that Bernie Sanders is somehow going to take away our freedoms with Socialism.

How does an educated man come to that fanciful conclusion?

Easily. A socialist is interested in expanding centralized power, which tends to curtail liberty. Sanders is a socialist, which makes his song choice a little ironic IMO. That's all. Clearly you do not agree and that's perfectly fine with me.


 
Posted : June 24, 2015 8:57 pm
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So in the countries I've listed can you cite examples of curtailed liberty?

I suppose you are giving your opinion, but your opinion is rooted in ignorance and fantasy. Your opinion is ignoring the truth, unless you can tell me how those countries are curtailing liberty, you are just spouting ignorance and nonsense. I've never taken you for a simpleton.


 
Posted : June 25, 2015 6:09 am
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If you're going to list nations with mixed economic systems, such as Canada, you might has well include the United States.


 
Posted : June 25, 2015 6:16 am
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Those are nine of the most Socialist countries alloak. They are Socialist!

What country are you basing your view on?

The truth is you are painting Bernie and Socialism with your own ignorance. Your own misinformation. You don't know what you are talking about. Your snide comments fall short because you are out of your depth.

Those countries are the best examples of Socialism in action on the planet today.

How are there freedoms curtailed?


 
Posted : June 25, 2015 6:22 am
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Answer the question alloak.

Those countries are all considered Socialist. Can you name any non-mixed economic system?

You alleged yourself to be an educated man. You infer that Bernie Sanders is somehow going to take away our freedoms with Socialism.

How does an educated man come to that fanciful conclusion?

Easily. A socialist is interested in expanding centralized power, which tends to curtail liberty. Sanders is a socialist, which makes his song choice a little ironic IMO. That's all. Clearly you do not agree and that's perfectly fine with me.

Why do you think it is an ironic song choice? The song is actually a perfect choice for Bernie because it is essentially a protest song about the inequities in American society, which is what Bernie is all about. While the title of the song on its face may sound like it's a celebration of liberty, reading/listening to the lyrics makes it obvious that the title is sarcastic and the song is actually about what Young thought at the time about how the American Dream was failing and the politicians and leaders were coming up short on their rhetoric and promises.


 
Posted : June 25, 2015 6:27 am
alloak41
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Answer the question alloak.

Those countries are all considered Socialist. Can you name any non-mixed economic system?

You alleged yourself to be an educated man. You infer that Bernie Sanders is somehow going to take away our freedoms with Socialism.

How does an educated man come to that fanciful conclusion?

Easily. A socialist is interested in expanding centralized power, which tends to curtail liberty. Sanders is a socialist, which makes his song choice a little ironic IMO. That's all. Clearly you do not agree and that's perfectly fine with me.

Why do you think it is an ironic song choice? The song is actually a perfect choice for Bernie because it is essentially a protest song about the inequities in American society, which is what Bernie is all about. While the title of the song on its face may sound like it's a celebration of liberty, reading/listening to the lyrics makes it obvious that the title is sarcastic and the song is actually about what Young thought at the time about how the American Dream was failing and the politicians and leaders were coming up short on their rhetoric and promises.

I honestly didn't know what the lyrical content of the song meant, I admit it.

The song choice is perfect for Sanders. Is that better?

[Edited on 6/25/2015 by alloak41]


 
Posted : June 25, 2015 6:31 am
gondicar
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Answer the question alloak.

Those countries are all considered Socialist. Can you name any non-mixed economic system?

You alleged yourself to be an educated man. You infer that Bernie Sanders is somehow going to take away our freedoms with Socialism.

How does an educated man come to that fanciful conclusion?

Easily. A socialist is interested in expanding centralized power, which tends to curtail liberty. Sanders is a socialist, which makes his song choice a little ironic IMO. That's all. Clearly you do not agree and that's perfectly fine with me.

Why do you think it is an ironic song choice? The song is actually a perfect choice for Bernie because it is essentially a protest song about the inequities in American society, which is what Bernie is all about. While the title of the song on its face may sound like it's a celebration of liberty, reading/listening to the lyrics makes it obvious that the title is sarcastic and the song is actually about what Young thought at the time about how the American Dream was failing and the politicians and leaders were coming up short on their rhetoric and promises.

I honestly didn't know what the lyrical content of the song meant, I admit it.

The song choice is perfect for Sanders. Is that better?

[Edited on 6/25/2015 by alloak41]

The meaning of the song isn't some hidden agenda, it is very clear IMO if you just listen to or read the lyrics. Maybe you never have, but that's ok because I'm guessing Trump didn't either.


 
Posted : June 25, 2015 6:55 am
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Those are nine of the most Socialist countries alloak. They are Socialist!

What country are you basing your view on?

The truth is you are painting Bernie and Socialism with your own ignorance. Your own misinformation. You don't know what you are talking about. Your snide comments fall short because you are out of your depth.

Those countries are the best examples of Socialism in action on the planet today.

How are there freedoms curtailed?

I would imagine the high taxation required to support a socialist economic system curtails just about every freedom imaginable.


 
Posted : June 25, 2015 7:03 am
alloak41
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Answer the question alloak.

Those countries are all considered Socialist. Can you name any non-mixed economic system?

You alleged yourself to be an educated man. You infer that Bernie Sanders is somehow going to take away our freedoms with Socialism.

How does an educated man come to that fanciful conclusion?

Easily. A socialist is interested in expanding centralized power, which tends to curtail liberty. Sanders is a socialist, which makes his song choice a little ironic IMO. That's all. Clearly you do not agree and that's perfectly fine with me.

Why do you think it is an ironic song choice? The song is actually a perfect choice for Bernie because it is essentially a protest song about the inequities in American society, which is what Bernie is all about. While the title of the song on its face may sound like it's a celebration of liberty, reading/listening to the lyrics makes it obvious that the title is sarcastic and the song is actually about what Young thought at the time about how the American Dream was failing and the politicians and leaders were coming up short on their rhetoric and promises.

I honestly didn't know what the lyrical content of the song meant, I admit it.

The song choice is perfect for Sanders. Is that better?

[Edited on 6/25/2015 by alloak41]

The meaning of the song isn't some hidden agenda, it is very clear IMO if you just listen to or read the lyrics. Maybe you never have, but that's ok because I'm guessing Trump didn't either.

Again, I wasn't aware of the lyrical meaning of the song and never suspected a hidden agenda but it's a good song and a perfect choice for Sanders, I'm sure.


 
Posted : June 25, 2015 7:07 am
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quote:
Those are nine of the most Socialist countries alloak. They are Socialist!

What country are you basing your view on?

The truth is you are painting Bernie and Socialism with your own ignorance. Your own misinformation. You don't know what you are talking about. Your snide comments fall short because you are out of your depth.

Those countries are the best examples of Socialism in action on the planet today.

How are there freedoms curtailed?

I would imagine the high taxation required to support a socialist economic system curtails just about every freedom imaginable.

Imagine a few of those freedoms for me. Paint a picture.

What are you not free to do in those countries that you can do here. Just give me a short list... 7 freedoms we have in the United States that don't exist in Canada, Ireland, Sweden, Denmark, New Zealand, Belgium...

If you can't please admit you know nothing about Socialist countries and stop criticizing stuff of which you know nothing.


 
Posted : June 25, 2015 7:58 am
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The Donald.

Donald Trump Calls Neil Young a ‘Total Hypocrite’

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/donald-trump-neil-young/


 
Posted : June 25, 2015 8:13 am
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Univision Dropping Miss USA Pageant Over Donald Trump Comments

Univision is dropping the Miss USA pageant and says it will cut all business ties with Donald Trump over comments he made about Mexican immigrants.

The network said Thursday it will not air the July pageant and has ended its business relationship with the Miss Universe Organization, which produces the Miss USA pageant, due to what it called "insulting remarks about Mexican immigrants" by Trump, a part owner of Miss Universe.

During his presidential campaign kickoff speech last week, Trump accused Latino immigrants of bringing drugs, crime and rapists to the U.S. He called for building a wall along the southern border of the U.S.

Trump says he was only criticizing U.S. policies concerning Mexico, not its people. He says Univision is in default of a five-year contract.

Univision's decision is the latest in the fallout over Trump's remarks: On Thursday, Puerto Rican actress and Miss USA presenter Roselyn Sanchez severed her ties with the pageant. And on Wednesday, Colombian singer J Balvin canceled a planned performance.

A spokesman for Balvin said in a written statement that the singer's management told the Miss Universe organization to withdraw his name from an announcement about participants in the Miss USA broadcast.

http://www.necn.com/entertainment/entertainment-news/Univision-Dropping-Miss-USA-Pageant-Over-Donald-Trump-Comments-309827411.html


 
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