Trump had a low favorability ranking in the polls, then he calls Mexicans rapists and drug dealers
When did he say that about Mexicans? He never did, he said that about some of the
ones getting through, and he's correct.
We need to be asking how they're being allowed to enter the USA. That's what moved
his numbers, not racism, but that will be the message aimed at the low-information voter.
As far as why she isn't out there more yet, its simple. She doesn't need to be, and it would actually be bad campaign strategy if she were.
She can't lay on the lead and hide forever and that's where she runs into
a problem. The more time in front of the cameras and microphones, the
worse her numbers will take a hit. Wait and see.
In her case it might or might not be the message, but she would be wise to
dump the robot talk and speak normally. Where she got the idea that sounding
like a machine was appealing is beyond me.
its fun to watch the media try and play gotcha on Trump. we all know what he meant and everyone else in the race or media is too scared to admit it and have to play it safe and pretend he said awful things about the Mexican people.
its fun to watch the media try and play gotcha on Trump. we all know what he meant and everyone else in the race or media is too scared to admit it and have to play it safe and pretend he said awful things about the Mexican people.
True, but ask some stooge at the polls why they voted for ___________-D, and they are likely
to say, "Trump said all Mexicans are rapists and murderers and the GOP is racist. I saw it on
Facebook."
its fun to watch the media try and play gotcha on Trump. we all know what he meant and everyone else in the race or media is too scared to admit it and have to play it safe and pretend he said awful things about the Mexican people.
Yeah, showing videos of his remarks is playing gotcha. Tell me, what was the gotcha question he was asked that he gave that response to? Or was it an off the cuff remark? The only person who played gotcha with Trump was Trump.
its fun to watch the media try and play gotcha on Trump. we all know what he meant and everyone else in the race or media is too scared to admit it and have to play it safe and pretend he said awful things about the Mexican people.
Yeah, showing videos of his remarks is playing gotcha. Tell me, what was the gotcha question he was asked that he gave that response to? Or was it an off the cuff remark? The only person who played gotcha with Trump was Trump.
OG didn't say there was a "gotcha question." You did.
its fun to watch the media try and play gotcha on Trump. we all know what he meant and everyone else in the race or media is too scared to admit it and have to play it safe and pretend he said awful things about the Mexican people.
Yeah, showing videos of his remarks is playing gotcha. Tell me, what was the gotcha question he was asked that he gave that response to? Or was it an off the cuff remark? The only person who played gotcha with Trump was Trump.
OG didn't say there was a "gotcha question." You did.
Then please tell me how reporting what he said playing gotcha? My point was that the only person who played gotcha with Trump was Trump.
its fun to watch the media try and play gotcha on Trump. we all know what he meant and everyone else in the race or media is too scared to admit it and have to play it safe and pretend he said awful things about the Mexican people.
True, but ask some stooge at the polls why they voted for ___________-D, and they are likely
to say, "Trump said all Mexicans are rapists and murderers and the GOP is racist. I saw it on
Facebook."
Enough with the GOP victim complex already. It's not what was said, it's what was heard. Politics 101. You know that.
Sarah Palin and the "mainstream media filter" stuff all over again.
Maybe people heard exactly what Trump said and interpreted it in their own way. Is that possible? Nope. Can't be. Everyone that isn't a Republican is a low-info idiot, right, Pat?
If you are constantly having to say things like "That's not what he said," or "That's not what he meant," then your candidate has a problem. Again, you know this.
Seen the polls with Hispanics over the Trump remarks? Really mind-blowing that the GOP appears to be so willing to once again throw away such a huge voting bloc that, by the way, grows exponentially in size in the coming decades. Oh well!
She can't lay on the lead and hide forever and that's where she runs into
a problem. The more time in front of the cameras and microphones, the
worse her numbers will take a hit. Wait and see.In her case it might or might not be the message, but she would be wise to
dump the robot talk and speak normally. Where she got the idea that sounding
like a machine was appealing is beyond me.
You could be right. Her numbers are down now after, what I thought, was a pretty good policy speech a couple days ago.
The speech seemed to have a lot of substance, actual ideas on the economy and improving the quality of life for the middle class.
I suppose most Americans prefer a giant border fence to economic prosperity. It is good we are free to vote for our best interests.
its fun to watch the media try and play gotcha on Trump. we all know what he meant and everyone else in the race or media is too scared to admit it and have to play it safe and pretend he said awful things about the Mexican people.
Yeah, showing videos of his remarks is playing gotcha. Tell me, what was the gotcha question he was asked that he gave that response to? Or was it an off the cuff remark? The only person who played gotcha with Trump was Trump.
OG didn't say there was a "gotcha question." You did.
Then please tell me how reporting what he said playing gotcha? My point was that the only person who played gotcha with Trump was Trump.
We'll let's see.......How about the remarks pertaining to his statement?
First, Trump must must be (conveniently) misquoted to stir up outrage. Check. Trump's statement was 100% accurate and pertained only to a portion of immigrants entering the US. But the Trump bashers and media take this and run. "Trump said ALL Mexicans are murderers and rapists!"
Sorry, but from where I sit this could be construed as an attempt at "gotcha."
Didn't he make it sound like the majority of Mexicans entering the country are bad people?
Reince Priebus isn't too happy about his remarks. From what I've heard a lot of established Republicans wish Trump would STFU.
Me? I hope he wins the nomination.
its fun to watch the media try and play gotcha on Trump. we all know what he meant and everyone else in the race or media is too scared to admit it and have to play it safe and pretend he said awful things about the Mexican people.
Yeah, showing videos of his remarks is playing gotcha. Tell me, what was the gotcha question he was asked that he gave that response to? Or was it an off the cuff remark? The only person who played gotcha with Trump was Trump.
OG didn't say there was a "gotcha question." You did.
Then please tell me how reporting what he said playing gotcha? My point was that the only person who played gotcha with Trump was Trump.
We'll let's see.......How about the remarks pertaining to his statement?
First, Trump must must be (conveniently) misquoted to stir up outrage. Check. Trump's statement was 100% accurate and pertained only to a portion of immigrants entering the US. But the Trump bashers and media take this and run. "Trump said ALL Mexicans are murderers and rapists!"
Sorry, but from where I sit this could be construed as an attempt at "gotcha."
The only person conveniently misquoting Trump is you.
Here is his statement:
en Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best....They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”
He then said:
Druggies, drug dealers, rapists and killers are coming across the southern border. When will the U.S. get smart and stop this travesty?
Then there is some great stuff in this link.
Sorry, alloak, his words and only his words. No gotcha other than from himself.
Edit: If he was misquoted, please show us what he really said.
[Edited on 7/16/2015 by jkeller]
What I don't get is who in Mexico is "sending" in these people?
It's not what was said, it's what was heard. Politics 101. You know that.
Maybe people heard exactly what Trump said and interpreted it in their own way. Is that possible?
If you are constantly having to say things like "That's not what he said," or "That's not what he meant," then your candidate has a problem. Again, you know this.
Seen the polls with Hispanics over the Trump remarks? Really mind-blowing that the GOP appears to be so willing to once again throw away such a huge voting bloc that, by the way, grows exponentially in size in the coming decades. Oh well!
1 & 2. I think people hear what they want to hear in certain cases.
3. The outrage is based on a lie, a fabricated quote. He never said all Mexicans were *anything* yet that's what people are running around saying. Are you OK with that? In addition, the fact that his remarks pertained exclusively to the immigration problem seems to be totally ignored or conveniently forgotten.
4. I don't think the GOP is throwing the Hispanic vote away. Trump might be. I'm no more concerned that the Democrats may be throwing the white vote away, especially males. Frankly, I concern myself mainly with the American vote.
It's not what was said, it's what was heard. Politics 101. You know that.
Maybe people heard exactly what Trump said and interpreted it in their own way. Is that possible?
If you are constantly having to say things like "That's not what he said," or "That's not what he meant," then your candidate has a problem. Again, you know this.
Seen the polls with Hispanics over the Trump remarks? Really mind-blowing that the GOP appears to be so willing to once again throw away such a huge voting bloc that, by the way, grows exponentially in size in the coming decades. Oh well!
1 & 2. I think people hear what they want to hear in certain cases.
3. The outrage is based on a lie, a fabricated quote. He never said all Mexicans were *anything* yet that's what people are running around saying. Are you OK with that? In addition, the fact that his remarks pertained exclusively to the immigration problem seems to be totally ignored or conveniently forgotten.
4. I don't think the GOP is throwing the Hispanic vote away. Trump might be. I'm no more concerned that the Democrats may be throwing the white vote away, especially males. Frankly, I concern myself mainly with the American vote.
Nobody but you has said anything about "all Mexicans". Just you. Nobody in the media, nobody on this site, nobody. Now please show me where he was misquoted.
[quoteThe only person conveniently misquoting Trump is you.
Here is his statement:
en Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best....They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”
Again, where does it say that Mexicans are rapists and murderers? More importantly, where does it say that ALL Mexicans are ______________?
Can't you figure out a legitimate way, grounded in honesty, to disparage Trump? The
racial garbage is getting worn out. It's been effective to some degree but a new
approach needs to be road tested at some point.
It's not what was said, it's what was heard. Politics 101. You know that.
Maybe people heard exactly what Trump said and interpreted it in their own way. Is that possible?
If you are constantly having to say things like "That's not what he said," or "That's not what he meant," then your candidate has a problem. Again, you know this.
Seen the polls with Hispanics over the Trump remarks? Really mind-blowing that the GOP appears to be so willing to once again throw away such a huge voting bloc that, by the way, grows exponentially in size in the coming decades. Oh well!
1 & 2. I think people hear what they want to hear in certain cases.
3. The outrage is based on a lie, a fabricated quote. He never said all Mexicans were *anything* yet that's what people are running around saying. Are you OK with that? In addition, the fact that his remarks pertained exclusively to the immigration problem seems to be totally ignored or conveniently forgotten.
4. I don't think the GOP is throwing the Hispanic vote away. Trump might be. I'm no more concerned that the Democrats may be throwing the white vote away, especially males. Frankly, I concern myself mainly with the American vote.
Nobody but you has said anything about "all Mexicans". Just you. Nobody in the media, nobody on this site, nobody.
Are you serious? Now we've truly seen it all.
Just like your gem for the ages, "There are no Liberals on FOX News."
[Edited on 7/16/2015 by alloak41]
The truth is going out of style. It can be too "inflammatory."
Yeah right because all Mexicans who come here are criminals and rapists...and that is the truth according to Trump..........yeah that's the tickets........
This took all of one minute to find.
BTW, is your TV broken?
[quoteThe only person conveniently misquoting Trump is you.
Here is his statement:
en Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best....They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”
Again, where does it say that Mexicans are rapists and murderers? More importantly, where does it say that ALL Mexicans are ______________?
Can't you figure out a legitimate way, grounded in honesty, to disparage Trump? The
racial garbage is getting worn out. It's been effective to some degree but a new
approach needs to be road tested at some point.
I think it is pretty clear what he means, and even if he means to imply that he is only talking about illegals, then why did he tweet "Jeb Bush has to like the Mexican illegals because of his wife." Jeb Bush's wife is a legal Mexican immigrant and a US citizen. I thought Trump said that legal Mexican immigrants love him? Seems like he doesn't know the difference.
But hey, Trump is surging in the polls because of this "racial garbage." Do you think he would be polling as well as he is without it?
It's not what was said, it's what was heard. Politics 101. You know that.
Maybe people heard exactly what Trump said and interpreted it in their own way. Is that possible?
If you are constantly having to say things like "That's not what he said," or "That's not what he meant," then your candidate has a problem. Again, you know this.
Seen the polls with Hispanics over the Trump remarks? Really mind-blowing that the GOP appears to be so willing to once again throw away such a huge voting bloc that, by the way, grows exponentially in size in the coming decades. Oh well!
1 & 2. I think people hear what they want to hear in certain cases.
3. The outrage is based on a lie, a fabricated quote. He never said all Mexicans were *anything* yet that's what people are running around saying. Are you OK with that? In addition, the fact that his remarks pertained exclusively to the immigration problem seems to be totally ignored or conveniently forgotten.
4. I don't think the GOP is throwing the Hispanic vote away. Trump might be. I'm no more concerned that the Democrats may be throwing the white vote away, especially males. Frankly, I concern myself mainly with the American vote.
Nobody but you has said anything about "all Mexicans". Just you. Nobody in the media, nobody on this site, nobody.
Are you serious? Now we've truly seen it all.
Just like your gem for the ages, "There are no Liberals on FOX News."
[Edited on 7/16/2015 by alloak41]
So you have nothing? I gave you the quote, you return with senseless babble.
The truth is going out of style. It can be too "inflammatory."
Yeah right because all Mexicans who come here are criminals and rapists...and that is the truth according to Trump..........yeah that's the tickets........
This took all of one minute to find.
BTW, is your TV broken?
Once again, you say that people are saying that Trump said that all Mexicans are rapists etc. nobody said that is what he said. What he said, and is what the poster you quoted is saying, is that Mexico sends their rapists and drug dealers to the U.S. He has stood by those remarks. But you are really not smart enough to get it. Or, you have resorted to just being a troll.
I will go with both.
Trump had a low favorability ranking in the polls, then he calls Mexicans rapists and drug dealers
When did he say that about Mexicans? He never did, he said that about some of the
ones getting through, and he's correct.We need to be asking how they're being allowed to enter the USA. That's what moved
his numbers, not racism, but that will be the message aimed at the low-information voter.
No actually he implied the majority of the illegal Mexican immigrants were rapists and drug dealers Alloak and that he "some' may be good people not the other way around as you re claiming.
“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re sending people that have lots of problems. And they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs, they’re bringing crime, they’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people.“
He is fear mongering so it is getting him lots of publicity which he lives for. But I wonder in the end if stink of Trumps stupid remarks hurts the GOP with voters after he flames out and drops out of the race.
Interesting to see how the other major GOP candidates responded to his comment
http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2015/07/06/3676622/donald-trump-republicans-stance/
The outrage is based on a lie, a fabricated quote. He never said all Mexicans were *anything* yet that's what people are running around saying. Are you OK with that? In addition, the fact that his remarks pertained exclusively to the immigration problem seems to be totally ignored or conveniently forgotten.
Let's take a look at what he said. There's two things within the set of comments that ended up framing the whole thing a certain way, to some.
"When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best."
There's no clear disclaimer here. This directly infers that he's talking about everyone that Mexico "sends" here. He didn't say, "some of them are not the best."
Is that splitting hairs? Yes.
Is that semantics? Yes.
Does analyzing things down to that nth of a degree border on the silly? Yes.
Is this politics? Yes.
"They’re sending people that have lots of problems. And they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs, they’re bringing crime, they’re rapists,"
Pretty obvious, given simple demo-graphical math, that a criminal or criminals most definitely will enter the United States from Mexico. At face value, that statement has merit and truth. However, tied back to the original all-encompassing opener, it is clearly understandable that someone would think he's talking about all.
Then, "and some, I assume, are good people"
The "I assume" is just a passive/aggressive qualifier, just like ending a statement with a sarcastic "I guess." By doing so, he's made "good people" an outlier.
The statement, logically, as a whole, from a candidate, is a disaster. Are all illegal immigrants from Mexico? No illegals from anywhere else? Are there no American rapists or drug dealers?
What he ended up doing was insulting just about everyone from Mexico or of Mexican descent, illegal or not, in one fell swoop. If that wasn't the case, then no one else in the GOP would say a word.
"Well, I think he said something that has brought people who are frustrated about our immigration system to light, but he also said it in a way that’s going to kill my party..." <---Lindsey Graham said that. Lindsey freakin' Graham!
Interestingly enough, Trump did continue on and said something that I agree with 1000% and have for years...the notion that the wealthy elite in Mexico doesn't do jack squat about improving their own country.
Frankly, I concern myself mainly with the American vote.
How very warm and fuzzy. If you don't want to discuss how important voting blocs are, fine.
The outrage is based on a lie, a fabricated quote. He never said all Mexicans were *anything* yet that's what people are running around saying. Are you OK with that? In addition, the fact that his remarks pertained exclusively to the immigration problem seems to be totally ignored or conveniently forgotten.
Let's take a look at what he said. There's two things within the set of comments that ended up framing the whole thing a certain way, to some.
"When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best."
There's no clear disclaimer here. This directly infers that he's talking about everyone that Mexico "sends" here. He didn't say, "some of them are not the best."
Is that splitting hairs? Yes.
Is that semantics? Yes.
Does analyzing things down to that nth of a degree border on the silly? Yes.
Is this politics? Yes.
"They’re sending people that have lots of problems. And they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs, they’re bringing crime, they’re rapists,"
Pretty obvious, given simple demo-graphical math, that a criminal or criminals most definitely will enter the United States from Mexico. At face value, that statement has merit and truth. However, tied back to the original all-encompassing opener, it is clearly understandable that someone would think he's talking about all.
Then, "and some, I assume, are good people"
The "I assume" is just a passive/aggressive qualifier, just like ending a statement with a sarcastic "I guess." By doing so, he's made "good people" an outlier.
The statement, logically, as a whole, from a candidate, is a disaster. Are all illegal immigrants from Mexico? No illegals from anywhere else? Are there no American rapists or drug dealers?
What he ended up doing was insulting just about everyone from Mexico or of Mexican descent, illegal or not, in one fell swoop. If that wasn't the case, then no one else in the GOP would say a word.
"Well, I think he said something that has brought people who are frustrated about our immigration system to light, but he also said it in a way that’s going to kill my party..." <---Lindsey Graham said that. Lindsey freakin' Graham!
Interestingly enough, Trump did continue on and said something that I agree with 1000% and have for years...the notion that the wealthy elite in Mexico doesn't do jack squat about improving their own country.
Frankly, I concern myself mainly with the American vote.
How very warm and fuzzy. If you don't want to discuss how important voting blocs are, fine.
BOOM. Mic drop.
Bhawk is spot on.
I'm still appalled that Trump gets serious consideration for the things he says from anyone, and is not getting called out by other conservatives but is instead defended. I've heard so many conservatives say, "He's just speaking the truth and saying what other people are afraid to say." I can't believe it. He's a freakin' Birther for crying out loud! And it's not just Trump. I am certainly fiscally conservative and somewhat socially conservative, but these people do not speak for me. Here are some random quotes over the years by conservatives that let me know that the Republican party as currently constituted is not my part.
"The incidence of rape resulting in pregnancy are very low." – Arizona Rep. Trent Franks, mansplaining why abortion bans don't need rape exceptions
"He's even using children. It reminds me of Saddam Hussein when he used kids." –Texas Rep. Steve Stockman on President Obama's push for gun control after the massacre at Newtown
"Gee-whiz, the hormone level created by nature sets in place the possibility for these types of things to occur." – Georgia Sen. Saxby Chambliss on the the military's rape epidemic
"The oil and gas industry gets no subsidies, zero, nothing." – Jack Gerard, president of the American Petroleum Institute, whose industry gets $4 billion a year in tax breaks.
"Is this a conspiracy to buy up all the bullets so they're not available to us?" – Oklahoma Rep. Frank Lucas questioning whether Homeland Security is trying to create false scarcity by hoarding ammo
"Wanting a white Republican president doesn't make you racist, it just makes you American." – Failed congressional candidate Joe "The Plumber" Wurzelbacher
"Everything we do in this body should be about messaging to win back the Senate. That's it." – Texas Rep. Pete Sessions on the solitary purpose of the GOP's House majority
"[He] hates white people." –Maine Gov. Paul LePage on President Obama, according to two state lawmakers (both Republican) who heard LePage say this
"I think we disproportionately stop whites too much and minorities too little." – New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg on the controversial policing tactic known as stop-and-frisk, which was ruled unconstitutional by a district court judge
"There's a movement to normalize pedophilia . . . What is their objective? They want us to all think that pedophilia is just another sexual orientation. You know who's gonna fall right in line is college kids, just like they have on gay marriage." – Rush Limbaugh
"For every one who's a valedictorian, there's another 100 out there who weigh 130 pounds and they've got calves the size of cantaloupes because they're hauling 75 pounds of marijuana across the desert." – Iowa Rep. Steve King on immigration and why he opposes the DREAM Act
"Society itself is at risk and cannot continue." – Michigan Rep. Tim Walberg on the apocalyptic consequences of the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions
"The middle class. Since when in America do we have classes? That's Marxism talk." – Former presidential contender Rick Santorum
"Yeah, I would." – Nevada assemblyman Jim Wheeler, when asked if he would vote to reinstate slavery if his constituents wanted it
“When the President does it that means that it’s not illegal.” ~ Richard M. Nixon
”Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society.” ~ Rush Limbaugh
“Our gays are more macho than their straights.” ~ Ann Coulter, commenting in 2005 on Jeff Gannon, the conservative plant in the White House press corps who turned out to be a male escort
“[America has to import so many workers because] for the last 35 years we have aborted more than a million people who would have been in our workforce.” ~ Mike Huckabee
“The only way to reduce the number of nuclear weapons is to use them.” ~ Rush Limbaugh
”The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.” ~ Pat Robertson
“Juarez is reported to be the most dangerous city in America.” ~ Rick Perry
“Carbon dioxide is portrayed as harmful. But there isn’t even one study that can be produced that shows that carbon dioxide is a harmful gas.” ~ Rep. Michele Bachmann
“They [China] have indicated that they’re trying to develop nuclear capability and they want to develop more aircraft carriers like we have. So yes, we have to consider them a military threat.” ~ Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain, warning that China could develop nuclear weapons. (They developed them in 1964.)
"From what I understand from doctors, that’s really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down." ~ Rep Todd Akin
"The incidence of rape resulting in pregnancy are very low." ~ Trent Franks
"The facts show that people who are raped — who are truly raped — the juices don't flow, the body functions don't work and they don't get pregnant." .... “Medical authorities agree that this is a rarity, if ever...... “To get pregnant, it takes a little cooperation. And there ain’t much cooperation in a rape.” ~ North Carolina Rep Henry Aldridge
"Rape, obviously, is a traumatic experience. When that traumatic experience is undergone, a woman secretes a certain secretion, which has a tendency to kill sperm." ~ Rep. Stephen Freind
I'm still appalled that Trump gets serious consideration for the things he says from anyone, and is not getting called out by other conservatives but is instead defended. I've heard so many conservatives say, "He's just speaking the truth and saying what other people are afraid to say." I can't believe it. He's a freakin' Birther for crying out loud! And it's not just Trump. I am certainly fiscally conservative and somewhat socially conservative, but these people do not speak for me. Here are some random quotes over the years by conservatives that let me know that the Republican party as currently constituted is not my part.
"The incidence of rape resulting in pregnancy are very low." – Arizona Rep. Trent Franks, mansplaining why abortion bans don't need rape exceptions
"He's even using children. It reminds me of Saddam Hussein when he used kids." –Texas Rep. Steve Stockman on President Obama's push for gun control after the massacre at Newtown
"Gee-whiz, the hormone level created by nature sets in place the possibility for these types of things to occur." – Georgia Sen. Saxby Chambliss on the the military's rape epidemic
"The oil and gas industry gets no subsidies, zero, nothing." – Jack Gerard, president of the American Petroleum Institute, whose industry gets $4 billion a year in tax breaks.
"Is this a conspiracy to buy up all the bullets so they're not available to us?" – Oklahoma Rep. Frank Lucas questioning whether Homeland Security is trying to create false scarcity by hoarding ammo
"Wanting a white Republican president doesn't make you racist, it just makes you American." – Failed congressional candidate Joe "The Plumber" Wurzelbacher
"Everything we do in this body should be about messaging to win back the Senate. That's it." – Texas Rep. Pete Sessions on the solitary purpose of the GOP's House majority
"[He] hates white people." –Maine Gov. Paul LePage on President Obama, according to two state lawmakers (both Republican) who heard LePage say this
"I think we disproportionately stop whites too much and minorities too little." – New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg on the controversial policing tactic known as stop-and-frisk, which was ruled unconstitutional by a district court judge
"There's a movement to normalize pedophilia . . . What is their objective? They want us to all think that pedophilia is just another sexual orientation. You know who's gonna fall right in line is college kids, just like they have on gay marriage." – Rush Limbaugh
"For every one who's a valedictorian, there's another 100 out there who weigh 130 pounds and they've got calves the size of cantaloupes because they're hauling 75 pounds of marijuana across the desert." – Iowa Rep. Steve King on immigration and why he opposes the DREAM Act
"Society itself is at risk and cannot continue." – Michigan Rep. Tim Walberg on the apocalyptic consequences of the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions
"The middle class. Since when in America do we have classes? That's Marxism talk." – Former presidential contender Rick Santorum
"Yeah, I would." – Nevada assemblyman Jim Wheeler, when asked if he would vote to reinstate slavery if his constituents wanted it
“When the President does it that means that it’s not illegal.” ~ Richard M. Nixon
”Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society.” ~ Rush Limbaugh
“Our gays are more macho than their straights.” ~ Ann Coulter, commenting in 2005 on Jeff Gannon, the conservative plant in the White House press corps who turned out to be a male escort
“[America has to import so many workers because] for the last 35 years we have aborted more than a million people who would have been in our workforce.” ~ Mike Huckabee
“The only way to reduce the number of nuclear weapons is to use them.” ~ Rush Limbaugh
”The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.” ~ Pat Robertson
“Juarez is reported to be the most dangerous city in America.” ~ Rick Perry
“Carbon dioxide is portrayed as harmful. But there isn’t even one study that can be produced that shows that carbon dioxide is a harmful gas.” ~ Rep. Michele Bachmann
“They [China] have indicated that they’re trying to develop nuclear capability and they want to develop more aircraft carriers like we have. So yes, we have to consider them a military threat.” ~ Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain, warning that China could develop nuclear weapons. (They developed them in 1964.)
"From what I understand from doctors, that’s really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down." ~ Rep Todd Akin
"The incidence of rape resulting in pregnancy are very low." ~ Trent Franks
"The facts show that people who are raped — who are truly raped — the juices don't flow, the body functions don't work and they don't get pregnant." .... “Medical authorities agree that this is a rarity, if ever...... “To get pregnant, it takes a little cooperation. And there ain’t much cooperation in a rape.” ~ North Carolina Rep Henry Aldridge
"Rape, obviously, is a traumatic experience. When that traumatic experience is undergone, a woman secretes a certain secretion, which has a tendency to kill sperm." ~ Rep. Stephen Freind
Patiently waiting for alloak's defense and support for the statements above. 😛
It's not what was said, it's what was heard. Politics 101. You know that.
Maybe people heard exactly what Trump said and interpreted it in their own way. Is that possible?
If you are constantly having to say things like "That's not what he said," or "That's not what he meant," then your candidate has a problem. Again, you know this.
Seen the polls with Hispanics over the Trump remarks? Really mind-blowing that the GOP appears to be so willing to once again throw away such a huge voting bloc that, by the way, grows exponentially in size in the coming decades. Oh well!
1 & 2. I think people hear what they want to hear in certain cases.
3. The outrage is based on a lie, a fabricated quote. He never said all Mexicans were *anything* yet that's what people are running around saying. Are you OK with that? In addition, the fact that his remarks pertained exclusively to the immigration problem seems to be totally ignored or conveniently forgotten.
4. I don't think the GOP is throwing the Hispanic vote away. Trump might be. I'm no more concerned that the Democrats may be throwing the white vote away, especially males. Frankly, I concern myself mainly with the American vote.
So alloak, excluding the guy you continue to defend, what % of the Hispanic vote do you think the GOP can really expect to put in the GOP column?
Frankly, I concern myself mainly with the American vote.
How very warm and fuzzy. If you don't want to discuss how important voting blocs are, fine.
I don't have much use for identity politics. I think it's destructive.
Warm and fuzzy? I'm not sure about that. We're separated into too many groups.
No actually he implied the majority of the illegal Mexican immigrants were rapists and drug dealers Alloak and that he "some' may be good people not the other way around as you re claiming.
Far too many undesirables ARE getting into the country. Far too many and you know that.
Why are we allowing this to happen? Cracking down on border entry and enforcing laws might insult Mexican voters? Can't make a stand or do what's right and risk losing those votes! That's what's important.
[Edited on 7/17/2015 by alloak41]
Far too many undesirables ARE getting into the country. Far too many and you know that.
Why are we allowing this to happen? Cracking down on border entry and enforcing laws might insult Mexican voters? Can't make a stand or do what's right and risk losing those votes! That's what's important.
Apparently the mass graves in South Texas tell a story about immigrants that are not getting into the country. Well, they are getting in, they just aren't living long once they get here. 100's of bodies have been uncovered in South Texas.
Thought you folks might be interested. The "liberal" media, for whatever reason, seems to have missed this story.
November 11, 2014
By John Carlos Frey
For several days last June, a team of students and professors from Baylor University and the University of Indianapolis rose at dawn and made their way to Sacred Heart Cemetery in Falfurrias, Texas, to exhume human remains buried in mass graves. Migrants had been dying in small numbers in Brooks County for over a decade, but starting five years ago, the death toll spiked, overwhelming rural Brooks County, which doesn’t even have a county coroner.
So the team at Baylor, more than 300 miles away in Waco, Texas, has taken up the slack, recovering and trying to identify the migrants’ remains. According to Lori Baker, a forensic anthropologist at Baylor, some of the bodies were buried in coffins, but others were haphazardly stacked, one top of the other, in biohazard bags or supermarket trash bags. “Nobody cares about dead immigrants,” Baker said. “They’re invisible when they’re alive, and they’re even more invisible when they’re dead.” In most cases, the remains were interred without markers or plot maps and the team had to comb through whole corners of the cemetery to find them.
Since 2009, the remains of over four hundred migrants have been recovered in the county. Baker believes there may be hundreds more bodies, hidden in the brush, that have yet to be found. I spent the last year investigating why so many migrants are dying here, and why so little is being done about it.
For two decades, increased border security has been the bedrock of US immigration policy. More than $2 billion has been spent to build imposing border fences cutting off the well-traveled corridors near San Diego, El Paso, and other urban areas along the US-Mexico border. The goal of the new border strategy, called “prevention through deterrence,” was to discourage migrants from crossing over—and force those who did into sparsely populated, inhospitable terrain.
If migrants were pushed out of dense urban areas, the thinking went, apprehensions would be easier. “We now have the tactical advantage,” said one 2009 Border Patrol video, “and we only need to exploit that advantage.” While the number of border crossings has since plummeted—dropping by nearly 80 percent from peak levels a decade ago—death rates have risen. At first, deaths spiked in Pima County, which runs along Arizona’s border with Mexico. Then people started dying in large numbers in Brooks County, some 70 miles north of the border.
Since 2009, migrant bodies have been turning up on private ranches here by the dozens. “They started coming through here by the hundreds each day when they started putting pressure on the border,” recalls one local rancher. “The more people who come, the more who die.” I learned part of the story from Eddie Canales, a former labor organizer who now runs a tiny group in Falfurrias called the South Texas Human Rights Center. Canales and his small band of volunteers put out water stations along the migration routes, to help prevent dehydration and heat stroke. But volunteers from the Center and a local church are the only ones who do it, and they operate at the mercy of the local ranch owners.
I went to visit the county sheriff’s office, housed in a tin-roofed warehouse set on a dirt lot filled with confiscated cars. The staff is beyond bare bones, with four deputies for the entire county, and only one or two on duty at any given time. There I met Chief Deputy Benny Martinez, a soft-spoken former Texas Ranger, and his head dispatcher, Diana DeLeon, a tough, no-nonsense veteran of law enforcement.
According to Martinez, the Border Patrol’s Falfurrias checkpoint was the critical factor behind the lost lives.
For decades, Border Patrol ran a small station in Falfurrias, but it was expanded in 2002 into a massive 23,000-square-foot facility. José R. Villarreal, Border Patrol division chief of operations for the Rio Grande Valley sector, called the checkpoint “key to the Rio Grande [Valley] as part of our strategy,” serving as backup for the agents patrolling the river farther south, along the border. “Brooks County just happens to be in one of the main corridors that involves this human smuggling,” Martinez said. “So what are they gonna do? They’re gonna circumvent this checkpoint. So that creates a lot of unusual circumstances to those who are trying to cross over.”
