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This is so embarrassing, I almost feel sorry for the guy:

http://www.npr.org/2016/03/09/469775355/trump-doesnt-own-most-of-the-products-he-pitched-last-night?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20160309

Trump Doesn't Own Most Of The Products He Pitched Last Night

It appears that the attacks on presidential candidate Donald Trump's business record seem to have touched a nerve.

Despite three more primary and caucus victories on Tuesday, Trump eschewed a traditional victory speech, adding in a press conference — and something else: a table piled high with a veritable Trump-ucopia of Trump-branded products.

"I have very successful companies," the New York billionaire told reporters at the event at Trump National Golf Club Jupiter, in Jupiter, Fla., as raw steaks, bottles of wine and vodka, and magazines stood near the man himself.

In particular, Trump appeared irked about last week's speech by 2012 GOP nominee Mitt Romney, who declared, "Whatever happened to Trump Airlines? How about Trump University? And then there's Trump magazine and Trump Vodka and Trump Steaks and Trump Mortgage. A business genius he is not."

So what's the backstory of those products Trump pitched as a sign of his success?

Trump Steaks

Raw meat — of the real and rhetorical kinds — was front and center last night.

"Do we have steaks? We have Trump steaks," Trump boasted. "If you want to take one, we'll charge you about, what, 50 bucks a steak?"

Trump did have an eponymous steak line, sold via Sharper Image. The company's website notes, however:

"Unfortunately, Trump Steaks are no longer available, but their legacy endures."
A search for "Trump" on QVC's website finds various Melania Trump jewelry products, a line of Trump mattresses and one entry for Trump Steaks. But they're not actual steaks; they're "Certified Angus Beef Steakburgers" and QVC notes, "We're sorry, this item is not available at this time."

A reporter present at Trump's press conference notes that the steaks on the table were not actually a Trump brand, but appear, ironically, to have come from a company named "Bush Brothers."

Trump Magazine

"[Romney] said Trump Magazine is out. I said, it is? I thought I read one two days ago. This comes out, and it's called The Jewel of Palm Beach, and we — it goes to all of my clubs," said Trump, before throwing a copy out to the audience.

There is indeed a magazine called The Jewel of Palm Beach published by the Palm Beach Media Group that is described as "the exclusive publication of Donald J. Trump's spectacular Mar-a-Lago Club" and other Trump properties.

Trump does not appear to own the publisher, and the magazine only comes out on an annual basis.

There was a Trump magazine, which went out of circulation in 2009. The New York Daily News reported:

"The last iteration of the luxury lifestyle mag reached a circulation of 100,000 and sold for $5.95 before it flopped. Issues are nowhere to be found online and hardcopies are likely a rare collector's item."

Trump Airline

"Well, I sold the airline, and I actually made a great deal, complicated and in really terrible times. The economy was horrible and I made a phenomenal deal," said Trump, referring to the Trump Shuttle.

NBC News recently looked back at the venture, and summarized Trump's ownership this way:

"Back in 1989, Trump pounced at the chance to buy the troubled Eastern Air Lines shuttle service for $365 million. He put the Trump name on the planes, dressed them up inside — and waited for business to boom. It didn't. But the business took on too much debt and eventually defaulted. It was sold to USAir."

Trump University

Trump launched Trump University in 2005 to help budding real-estate entrepreneurs, but it ran afoul of regulators, who noted that it was not a degree-granting institution. Former students sued, claiming they were tricked into spending tens of thousands of dollars for seminars that didn't do anywhere near what was advertised.

New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman is also suing and claiming that Trump and his associates defrauded students of a collective $40 million. The now-renamed Trump Entrepreneur Initiative is mostly dormant.

Trump is challenging those lawsuits and says he will win and that, when that happens, he will reopen Trump U: "It's going to do very well," Trump said, "and it will continue to do very well."

Trump Winery

The table was stacked with bottles of Trump Wine, and Trump declared of the winery, "I own it 100 percent, no mortgage, no debt."

The winery's website says something different: "Trump Winery is a registered trade name of Eric Trump Wine Manufacturing LLC, which is not owned, managed or affiliated with Donald J. Trump, The Trump Organization or any of their affiliates."

Trump, who is a teetotaler, also used to sell Trump Vodka, although that venture has also been discontinued. A review described the vodka's taste this way:

"Vodka from The Donald. Nosings reveal dry, earthy scents of grain, paraffin, kid leather, jasmine, flowers, moss and soot. Palate entry displays far better than average grain focus and viscosity; at midpalate, the taste profile turns off-dry, intensely breakfast cereal-like and biscuity. Finishes oily/creamy and snack cracker-like."

Trump Water

There were also pallets of Trump Water on stage. On Trump's website, the water is touted as "one of the purest natural spring waters bottled in the world."

"I mean, we sell water, and we have water, and it's a very successful," Trump said, "you know, it's a private little water company, and I supply the water for all my places, and it's good."

So does Trump own the natural springs or bottle the water himself? According to reporters at the event who looked the label, probably not.

As Trump himself put it Tuesday night, "So you have the water; you have the steaks; you have the airline that I sold. I mean, what's wrong with selling? Every once in a while you can sell something. You have the wines and all of that, and Trump University, we're going to start it up as soon as I win the lawsuit. Does that make sense? I mean, that's it. OK."

[Edited on 3/9/2016 by 2112]


 
Posted : March 9, 2016 9:46 am
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I'm sure you feeling embarrassed and sorry for him makes him lose sleep at night.


 
Posted : March 9, 2016 10:13 am
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I'm sure you feeling embarrassed and sorry for him makes him lose sleep at night.

Nah, con men never lose sleep over their lies and misdeeds.

I think Trump Wine should sue Donald for misrepresenting that their product was associated with him.


 
Posted : March 9, 2016 10:36 am
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Delusional? No, I think he's just a blowhard. But the folks who believe he'll make America great again are delusional.


 
Posted : March 9, 2016 10:41 am
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He's not delusional at all. He's proving a point. A sad point, but a point nonetheless.

There's nothing he can do or say that can hurt him at this point in the primary process, and he knows it.


 
Posted : March 9, 2016 11:08 am
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I'm sure you feeling embarrassed and sorry for him makes him lose sleep at night.

He did say almost.


 
Posted : March 9, 2016 11:09 am
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He's not delusional at all. He's proving a point. A sad point, but a point nonetheless.

There's nothing he can do or say that can hurt him at this point in the primary process, and he knows it.

Fact checks seem to mean nothing to his supporters. I'm not sure if it's due to their ignorance or if they just don't care.


 
Posted : March 9, 2016 11:23 am
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And yet he continues to win big time with voter turnout that the democrats cannot muster.

Why is the voter turnout for the democrats so poor?

Is it because they know that Obama, The DNC, democrat party elites and Wall Street will not allow Bernie Sanders to win the nomination and that Hillary Clinton is the subject of two FBI criminal investigations?


 
Posted : March 9, 2016 12:12 pm
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And yet he continues to win big time with voter turnout that the democrats cannot muster.

Why is the voter turnout for the democrats so poor?

Is it because they know that Obama, The DNC, democrat party elites and Wall Street will not allow Bernie Sanders to win the nomination and that Hillary Clinton is the subject of two FBI criminal investigations?

I think the democrat turnout has been much lower because most democrats would be happy with either candidate getting the nomination. Two good choices - can't go wrong either way. Both of them have been beating Trump in a head to head matchup in every poll out there.


 
Posted : March 9, 2016 12:55 pm
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Posted : March 9, 2016 1:33 pm
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And yet he continues to win big time with voter turnout that the democrats cannot muster.

Why is the voter turnout for the democrats so poor?

Is it because they know that Obama, The DNC, democrat party elites and Wall Street will not allow Bernie Sanders to win the nomination and that Hillary Clinton is the subject of two FBI criminal investigations?

I think the democrat turnout has been much lower because most democrats would be happy with either candidate getting the nomination. Two good choices - can't go wrong either way. Both of them have been beating Trump in a head to head matchup in every poll out there.

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That voter un-enthusiasm syndrome uh?

Voter turnout is everything in an election. Ask Hillary Clinton as she was beaten in Michigan yesterday by an old socialist white guy. The fact that the private sector unions are not supporting either democrat should also tell you something.


 
Posted : March 9, 2016 4:58 pm
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And yet he continues to win big time with voter turnout that the democrats cannot muster.

Why is the voter turnout for the democrats so poor?

Is it because they know that Obama, The DNC, democrat party elites and Wall Street will not allow Bernie Sanders to win the nomination and that Hillary Clinton is the subject of two FBI criminal investigations?

I think the democrat turnout has been much lower because most democrats would be happy with either candidate getting the nomination. Two good choices - can't go wrong either way. Both of them have been beating Trump in a head to head matchup in every poll out there.

________________________________________________________________________

That voter un-enthusiasm syndrome uh?

Voter turnout is everything in an election. Ask Hillary Clinton as she was beaten in Michigan yesterday by an old socialist white guy. The fact that the private sector unions are not supporting either democrat should also tell you something.

Voter turnout is important in November. Talk to us after Election Day.


 
Posted : March 9, 2016 6:11 pm
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And yet he continues to win big time with voter turnout that the democrats cannot muster.

Why is the voter turnout for the democrats so poor?

Is it because they know that Obama, The DNC, democrat party elites and Wall Street will not allow Bernie Sanders to win the nomination and that Hillary Clinton is the subject of two FBI criminal investigations?

I think the democrat turnout has been much lower because most democrats would be happy with either candidate getting the nomination. Two good choices - can't go wrong either way. Both of them have been beating Trump in a head to head matchup in every poll out there.

________________________________________________________________________

That voter un-enthusiasm syndrome uh?

Voter turnout is everything in an election. Ask Hillary Clinton as she was beaten in Michigan yesterday by an old socialist white guy. The fact that the private sector unions are not supporting either democrat should also tell you something.

I suspect there might be political pressure--as there was in Nevada for the unions to support Clinton--and many unions are sitting out for that reason. It may just be a de facto way of voting for Bernie.


 
Posted : March 10, 2016 4:46 am
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Trump does have a very long winded explanation for all the steaks, wine and magazines he brought to his victory conference. I think he was offering up bait for the opposition ads and the debate. The more they focus on this stuff--and not look at more weighty issues--the more time he can kill.


 
Posted : March 10, 2016 4:55 am
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Trump does have a very long winded explanation for all the steaks, wine and magazines he brought to his victory conference. I think he was offering up bait for the opposition ads and the debate. The more they focus on this stuff--and not look at more weighty issues--the more time he can kill.

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Trump sure knows how to get boatloads of free media time.
Obviously it is working quite well.


 
Posted : March 10, 2016 7:04 am
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Voter turnout is important in November. Talk to us after Election Day.

Will do.


 
Posted : March 10, 2016 10:06 am
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Meet Some Of Chicago’s Trump Democrats

March 10, 2016 5:08 PM By Derrick Blakley

(CBS) — With early voting closing in Chicago in just two days, monitors note a surprising trend: Donald Trump showing some traction among Democrats.

CBS 2’s Derrick Blakley reports.

Just west of Midway Airport, in the bungalow belt dominated by Illinois House Speaker Michael Madigan, some Democrats are defecting to The Donald.

“Right here, I’m a Donald Trump voter,” says retired city plumber Tom Izzo.

“So many Americans are out of job, but we got all these illegals working here. Something’s got to happen,” he says.

Izzo represents a bit of a trend. In 2008, just 6 percent of Chicago primary voters selected Republican ballots. This year, it’s up to 10 percent. And that’s not far away from the 13 percent back in 1980, the year Ronald Reagan attracted so-called blue collar Reagan Democrats.An example:

Gene Krupa, who usually votes Democrat.

“We need change, and Obama didn’t give us the change we needed,” he says.

On the Democratic side, among African Americans, U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders’ emphasis on inequality may be eroding Hillary Clinton’s strong support .

Clinton was in Illinois on Thursday to rally her backers. She’s still hardly expected to lose Illinois, not with strong support from women.

“Anytime a woman can break that glass ceiling, I’m all in favor of it,” Donna Murphy-Buckley says.

Lower-than-expected black support was one troubling reason that Clinton lost the Michigan primary to Sanders. Even if that happens here, it’s not expected to lead to a loss, but it could lower Clinton’s victory margin.

In her home state, she doesn’t just want to beat Sanders – she wants to bury him.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/03/10/meet-some-of-chicagos-trump-democrats/


 
Posted : March 11, 2016 10:30 am
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Meet Some Of Chicago’s Trump Democrats

March 10, 2016 5:08 PM By Derrick Blakley

(CBS) — With early voting closing in Chicago in just two days, monitors note a surprising trend: Donald Trump showing some traction among Democrats.

CBS 2’s Derrick Blakley reports.

Just west of Midway Airport, in the bungalow belt dominated by Illinois House Speaker Michael Madigan, some Democrats are defecting to The Donald.

“Right here, I’m a Donald Trump voter,” says retired city plumber Tom Izzo.

“So many Americans are out of job, but we got all these illegals working here. Something’s got to happen,” he says.

Izzo represents a bit of a trend. In 2008, just 6 percent of Chicago primary voters selected Republican ballots. This year, it’s up to 10 percent. And that’s not far away from the 13 percent back in 1980, the year Ronald Reagan attracted so-called blue collar Reagan Democrats.An example:

Gene Krupa, who usually votes Democrat.

“We need change, and Obama didn’t give us the change we needed,” he says.

On the Democratic side, among African Americans, U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders’ emphasis on inequality may be eroding Hillary Clinton’s strong support .

Clinton was in Illinois on Thursday to rally her backers. She’s still hardly expected to lose Illinois, not with strong support from women.

“Anytime a woman can break that glass ceiling, I’m all in favor of it,” Donna Murphy-Buckley says.

Lower-than-expected black support was one troubling reason that Clinton lost the Michigan primary to Sanders. Even if that happens here, it’s not expected to lead to a loss, but it could lower Clinton’s victory margin.

In her home state, she doesn’t just want to beat Sanders – she wants to bury him.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/03/10/meet-some-of-chicagos-trump-democrats/

This has nothing to do with the topic, but we all knew you had nothing to add.


 
Posted : March 11, 2016 12:38 pm
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Meet Some Of Chicago’s Trump Democrats

March 10, 2016 5:08 PM By Derrick Blakley

(CBS) — With early voting closing in Chicago in just two days, monitors note a surprising trend: Donald Trump showing some traction among Democrats.

CBS 2’s Derrick Blakley reports.

Just west of Midway Airport, in the bungalow belt dominated by Illinois House Speaker Michael Madigan, some Democrats are defecting to The Donald.

“Right here, I’m a Donald Trump voter,” says retired city plumber Tom Izzo.

“So many Americans are out of job, but we got all these illegals working here. Something’s got to happen,” he says.

Izzo represents a bit of a trend. In 2008, just 6 percent of Chicago primary voters selected Republican ballots. This year, it’s up to 10 percent. And that’s not far away from the 13 percent back in 1980, the year Ronald Reagan attracted so-called blue collar Reagan Democrats.An example:

Gene Krupa, who usually votes Democrat.

“We need change, and Obama didn’t give us the change we needed,” he says.

On the Democratic side, among African Americans, U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders’ emphasis on inequality may be eroding Hillary Clinton’s strong support .

Clinton was in Illinois on Thursday to rally her backers. She’s still hardly expected to lose Illinois, not with strong support from women.

“Anytime a woman can break that glass ceiling, I’m all in favor of it,” Donna Murphy-Buckley says.

Lower-than-expected black support was one troubling reason that Clinton lost the Michigan primary to Sanders. Even if that happens here, it’s not expected to lead to a loss, but it could lower Clinton’s victory margin.

In her home state, she doesn’t just want to beat Sanders – she wants to bury him.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/03/10/meet-some-of-chicagos-trump-democrats/

This has nothing to do with the topic, but we all knew you had nothing to add.

With all these Democrats supporting Trump, you'd think that Trump would be way up in the polls against Hillary, but he is behind in every single one. I guess Muleboy is just as delusional as Trump.


 
Posted : March 11, 2016 1:53 pm
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