WASHINGTON: ‘ MILITARY TIMES POLL ON OBAMA SAYS TROOPS SUPPORT ALL TIME LOW ‘
15/01/2015Ace News Group
#AceWorldNews – WASHINGTON:Jan.15: President Barack Obama was never the most popular commander-in-chief among the military, but a new poll shows his support has all but cratered. Meanwhile, his general approval rating moved upwards among the public, but still remained below 50 percent.
According to a new poll conducted by the Military Times, only 15 percent of active-duty service members approve of President Obama’s performance as commander-in-chief. That’s quite the drop from 35 percent in 2009. Meanwhile, 55 percent of respondents said they disapproved, up from 40 percent in the same time span.The numbers were tabulated after the Military Times asked approximately 2,300 service members to submit their opinions on the president.
The publication also found that troop morale has plunged since 2009. Fifty-fix percent of troops said their quality of life is good or excellent, down from 91 percent.
Despite his plunging approval rating among troops, more service members have come out in support of the social changes that President Obama is implementing in the military. Gay men and women have been allowed to serve openly since “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” was repealed in 2011, and now 60 percent of troops support the policy.
Additionally, 41 percent of troops believe women should be allowed to serve in some combat roles – up from 34 percent in 2011.
#ANS2015
I wonder how they came to that conclusion?
Let's read the article on Military Times.
Army Sgt. 1st Class Gregory Pettigrew feels like he should vote in the midterm elections on Nov. 4.
But he's completely dissatisfied with the options on the ballot.
"I just feel like all politics goes back to money," the 32-year-old soldier said. "It seems like all the [congressional] debate now is completely disconnected from reality. They don't really seem to care about how their decisions impact us."
He's not alone in that opinion. Results of the most recent annual Military Times Poll of more than 2,200 active-duty troops show growing frustration with gridlocked congressional politics, mirroring low approval ratings for national lawmakers in recent polls.
More than one-third of readers who responded to the Military Times Poll said that neither Democrats nor Republicans have been a strong advocate for the military, and 44 percent think both major political parties have become less supportive of military issues in recent years.
Only 12 percent believe both parties have the armed forces' best interests at heart.
But unlike many dissatisfied voters who decry the disconnect in Washington politics, most Military Times readers say decisions made by congressional lawmakers have a direct impact on their readiness and morale.
That makes rhetoric on pay raises, training policies and budget cuts even more personal for service members like Pettigrew, a 13-year veteran stationed at Fort Sill, Oklahoma.
"Congress is responsible for keeping us at reasonable pay and funding levels so we can do our job," he said. "But from their comments, I don't know if they have any regard for the things we do every day."
One Air Force lieutenant colonel who responded to the poll but did not want to be identified said field combat and medical training exercises have dropped sharply because of funding trims, leading to worries among his airmen about their readiness for future missions.
And a Navy master-at-arms stationed in Europe who also asked to remain anonymous said his sailors often don't have the spare parts readily available to repair the harbor security vessels they man.
Both blamed congressional infighting for the shortfalls.
Shifting loyalties
The loss of faith in lawmakers comes at a time when troops are less and less likely to identify with either major political party.
In the last nine years of the Military Times Poll, the percentage of respondents who consider themselves Republicans has slowly dropped, from nearly half of those surveyed in the late 2000s to just 32 percent this year. Increasingly, readers are more likely to describe themselves as libertarian (7 percent) or independent (28 percent).
Likewise, readers who described themselves as "very conservative" have remained steady over the years, but the "conservative" respondents have dwindled as well — down to 29 percent from a high of 41 percent in 2011.
Democrats and liberal readers make up about 8 percent of the poll respondents.
National polls of veterans have shown a strong preference for Republican candidates over Democratic hopefuls, although not as wide a gap as shown in the Military Times Poll. But they have also shown the same strong affinity for the "independent" label, more so than voters without military experience.
Duke University political science professor Peter Feaver, a former George W. Bush National Security Council adviser, said a rise in popularity for independent and libertarian positions among military members comes as little surprise to him.
"The military follows national trends but lags and skews conservative," he said. " 'The libertarians' sensibility fits with some of the military's profile more naturally, particularly the 'don't tread on me' kind of mentality."
Army Maj. Wayne Lacy describes himself as a libertarian but said he has seen some of his fellow soldiers gravitate away from the Republican Party line and toward tea party candidates. But the 45-year-old staff officer at North American Aerospace Defense Command in Colorado Springs, Colorado, sees that as a subtle shift more than a philosophical change in troops' politics.
"After 25 years, I think it's fair to say most of the force remains fairly conservative in their values," he said.
Feaver echoed that, saying he doesn't see "a tidal wave of libertarianism" in the military. Instead, it's a reflection of the same political frustration nationwide, indicated in a recent Gallup Poll that had fewer than one in five Americans approving of Congress' job performance.
Politics as usual
When the new Congress is seated in January, lawmakers will immediately face a host of military issues: sequestration, Islamic militants in Iraq and Syria, lingering Veterans Affairs access problems, military pay and retirement reform.
All are issues that the current Congress has struggled to deal with, despite repeated promises of supporting the troops and keeping the nation secure.
Marine Corps Lt. Col. Amy McGrath, a political science instructor at the Naval Academy, said she thinks the political infighting doesn't affect most troops' ability to do their jobs. But it does weigh on their minds, especially her students.
"They don't have a framework of reference because they haven't seen it yet," she said. "I spent a year on Capitol Hill as a congressional fellow. ... The fact that they can't come together, it's all politics. It's not one side wanting to cut."
Pettigrew said the October 2013 government shutdown and preceding shutdown threats caused major concern among his fellow soldiers, especially with rumors of paycheck delays rampant. That only increased his dissatisfaction with the state of national politics.
President Obama gets similar low support from Military Times Poll respondents, with 55 percent disapproving of his performance as commander in chief.
Even support for the tea party was spotty, with just 13 percent of readers saying they back nearly all tea party candidates and 34 percent saying they never back the conservative offshoot.
Despite the mixed feelings about national candidates, military voters in recent years have been more engaged than their civilian peers. According to statistics from the Federal Voting Assistance Program, the number of troops voting in recent presidential elections has stayed around 55 percent, just below national rates, and around 45 percent in midterm elections, about 8 percentage points above civilian rates.
Despite his misgivings, Pettigrew said he probably will be one of those participating military voters.
"I don't particularly like my choices," the self-proclaimed independent voter said. "But I still really need to vote."?
Staff writers Andrew Tilghman, Hope Hodge Seck, David Larter and Stephen Losey contributed to this report.
Election results online
On election night, visit militarytimes.com/election2014 for live updates of the congressional races that will affect the defense community:
I wonder how they came to that conclusion?
Let's read the article on Military Times.
Army Sgt. 1st Class Gregory Pettigrew feels like he should vote in the midterm elections on Nov. 4.
But he's completely dissatisfied with the options on the ballot.
"I just feel like all politics goes back to money," the 32-year-old soldier said. "It seems like all the [congressional] debate now is completely disconnected from reality. They don't really seem to care about how their decisions impact us."
He's not alone in that opinion. Results of the most recent annual Military Times Poll of more than 2,200 active-duty troops show growing frustration with gridlocked congressional politics, mirroring low approval ratings for national lawmakers in recent polls.
More than one-third of readers who responded to the Military Times Poll said that neither Democrats nor Republicans have been a strong advocate for the military, and 44 percent think both major political parties have become less supportive of military issues in recent years.
Only 12 percent believe both parties have the armed forces' best interests at heart.
But unlike many dissatisfied voters who decry the disconnect in Washington politics, most Military Times readers say decisions made by congressional lawmakers have a direct impact on their readiness and morale.
That makes rhetoric on pay raises, training policies and budget cuts even more personal for service members like Pettigrew, a 13-year veteran stationed at Fort Sill, Oklahoma.
"Congress is responsible for keeping us at reasonable pay and funding levels so we can do our job," he said. "But from their comments, I don't know if they have any regard for the things we do every day."
One Air Force lieutenant colonel who responded to the poll but did not want to be identified said field combat and medical training exercises have dropped sharply because of funding trims, leading to worries among his airmen about their readiness for future missions.
And a Navy master-at-arms stationed in Europe who also asked to remain anonymous said his sailors often don't have the spare parts readily available to repair the harbor security vessels they man.
Both blamed congressional infighting for the shortfalls.
Shifting loyalties
The loss of faith in lawmakers comes at a time when troops are less and less likely to identify with either major political party.
In the last nine years of the Military Times Poll, the percentage of respondents who consider themselves Republicans has slowly dropped, from nearly half of those surveyed in the late 2000s to just 32 percent this year. Increasingly, readers are more likely to describe themselves as libertarian (7 percent) or independent (28 percent).
Likewise, readers who described themselves as "very conservative" have remained steady over the years, but the "conservative" respondents have dwindled as well — down to 29 percent from a high of 41 percent in 2011.
Democrats and liberal readers make up about 8 percent of the poll respondents.
National polls of veterans have shown a strong preference for Republican candidates over Democratic hopefuls, although not as wide a gap as shown in the Military Times Poll. But they have also shown the same strong affinity for the "independent" label, more so than voters without military experience.
Duke University political science professor Peter Feaver, a former George W. Bush National Security Council adviser, said a rise in popularity for independent and libertarian positions among military members comes as little surprise to him.
"The military follows national trends but lags and skews conservative," he said. " 'The libertarians' sensibility fits with some of the military's profile more naturally, particularly the 'don't tread on me' kind of mentality."
Army Maj. Wayne Lacy describes himself as a libertarian but said he has seen some of his fellow soldiers gravitate away from the Republican Party line and toward tea party candidates. But the 45-year-old staff officer at North American Aerospace Defense Command in Colorado Springs, Colorado, sees that as a subtle shift more than a philosophical change in troops' politics.
"After 25 years, I think it's fair to say most of the force remains fairly conservative in their values," he said.
Feaver echoed that, saying he doesn't see "a tidal wave of libertarianism" in the military. Instead, it's a reflection of the same political frustration nationwide, indicated in a recent Gallup Poll that had fewer than one in five Americans approving of Congress' job performance.
Politics as usual
When the new Congress is seated in January, lawmakers will immediately face a host of military issues: sequestration, Islamic militants in Iraq and Syria, lingering Veterans Affairs access problems, military pay and retirement reform.
All are issues that the current Congress has struggled to deal with, despite repeated promises of supporting the troops and keeping the nation secure.
Marine Corps Lt. Col. Amy McGrath, a political science instructor at the Naval Academy, said she thinks the political infighting doesn't affect most troops' ability to do their jobs. But it does weigh on their minds, especially her students.
"They don't have a framework of reference because they haven't seen it yet," she said. "I spent a year on Capitol Hill as a congressional fellow. ... The fact that they can't come together, it's all politics. It's not one side wanting to cut."
Pettigrew said the October 2013 government shutdown and preceding shutdown threats caused major concern among his fellow soldiers, especially with rumors of paycheck delays rampant. That only increased his dissatisfaction with the state of national politics.
President Obama gets similar low support from Military Times Poll respondents, with 55 percent disapproving of his performance as commander in chief.
Even support for the tea party was spotty, with just 13 percent of readers saying they back nearly all tea party candidates and 34 percent saying they never back the conservative offshoot.
Despite the mixed feelings about national candidates, military voters in recent years have been more engaged than their civilian peers. According to statistics from the Federal Voting Assistance Program, the number of troops voting in recent presidential elections has stayed around 55 percent, just below national rates, and around 45 percent in midterm elections, about 8 percentage points above civilian rates.
Despite his misgivings, Pettigrew said he probably will be one of those participating military voters.
"I don't particularly like my choices," the self-proclaimed independent voter said. "But I still really need to vote."?
Staff writers Andrew Tilghman, Hope Hodge Seck, David Larter and Stephen Losey contributed to this report.
Election results online
On election night, visit militarytimes.com/election2014 for live updates of the congressional races that will affect the defense community:
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That article was from Oct. 2014 just before the mid-terms (when the democrats lost control of the Senate). and had nothing to do with our Troops opinion of The Commander in Chief.
The current poll shows that the military has the lowest opinion of obama now and it has been degrading since obama came into office.
Nice try.
obama is a failure and The Troops know it.
Fifty-fix percent of troops said their quality of life is good or excellent, down from 91 percent.
That's staggering. Obviously there is a serious problem.
Fifty-fix percent of troops said their quality of life is good or excellent, down from 91 percent.
That's staggering. Obviously there is a serious problem.
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Obama's VA trashing the troops applications for health care so that they could get their bonuses is a major reason.
The VA let many Troops die and there has been no prosecution by Holder.
I wonder how they came to that conclusion?
Let's read the article on Military Times.
Army Sgt. 1st Class Gregory Pettigrew feels like he should vote in the midterm elections on Nov. 4.
But he's completely dissatisfied with the options on the ballot.
"I just feel like all politics goes back to money," the 32-year-old soldier said. "It seems like all the [congressional] debate now is completely disconnected from reality. They don't really seem to care about how their decisions impact us."
He's not alone in that opinion. Results of the most recent annual Military Times Poll of more than 2,200 active-duty troops show growing frustration with gridlocked congressional politics, mirroring low approval ratings for national lawmakers in recent polls.
More than one-third of readers who responded to the Military Times Poll said that neither Democrats nor Republicans have been a strong advocate for the military, and 44 percent think both major political parties have become less supportive of military issues in recent years.
Only 12 percent believe both parties have the armed forces' best interests at heart.
But unlike many dissatisfied voters who decry the disconnect in Washington politics, most Military Times readers say decisions made by congressional lawmakers have a direct impact on their readiness and morale.
That makes rhetoric on pay raises, training policies and budget cuts even more personal for service members like Pettigrew, a 13-year veteran stationed at Fort Sill, Oklahoma.
"Congress is responsible for keeping us at reasonable pay and funding levels so we can do our job," he said. "But from their comments, I don't know if they have any regard for the things we do every day."
One Air Force lieutenant colonel who responded to the poll but did not want to be identified said field combat and medical training exercises have dropped sharply because of funding trims, leading to worries among his airmen about their readiness for future missions.
And a Navy master-at-arms stationed in Europe who also asked to remain anonymous said his sailors often don't have the spare parts readily available to repair the harbor security vessels they man.
Both blamed congressional infighting for the shortfalls.
Shifting loyalties
The loss of faith in lawmakers comes at a time when troops are less and less likely to identify with either major political party.
In the last nine years of the Military Times Poll, the percentage of respondents who consider themselves Republicans has slowly dropped, from nearly half of those surveyed in the late 2000s to just 32 percent this year. Increasingly, readers are more likely to describe themselves as libertarian (7 percent) or independent (28 percent).
Likewise, readers who described themselves as "very conservative" have remained steady over the years, but the "conservative" respondents have dwindled as well — down to 29 percent from a high of 41 percent in 2011.
Democrats and liberal readers make up about 8 percent of the poll respondents.
National polls of veterans have shown a strong preference for Republican candidates over Democratic hopefuls, although not as wide a gap as shown in the Military Times Poll. But they have also shown the same strong affinity for the "independent" label, more so than voters without military experience.
Duke University political science professor Peter Feaver, a former George W. Bush National Security Council adviser, said a rise in popularity for independent and libertarian positions among military members comes as little surprise to him.
"The military follows national trends but lags and skews conservative," he said. " 'The libertarians' sensibility fits with some of the military's profile more naturally, particularly the 'don't tread on me' kind of mentality."
Army Maj. Wayne Lacy describes himself as a libertarian but said he has seen some of his fellow soldiers gravitate away from the Republican Party line and toward tea party candidates. But the 45-year-old staff officer at North American Aerospace Defense Command in Colorado Springs, Colorado, sees that as a subtle shift more than a philosophical change in troops' politics.
"After 25 years, I think it's fair to say most of the force remains fairly conservative in their values," he said.
Feaver echoed that, saying he doesn't see "a tidal wave of libertarianism" in the military. Instead, it's a reflection of the same political frustration nationwide, indicated in a recent Gallup Poll that had fewer than one in five Americans approving of Congress' job performance.
Politics as usual
When the new Congress is seated in January, lawmakers will immediately face a host of military issues: sequestration, Islamic militants in Iraq and Syria, lingering Veterans Affairs access problems, military pay and retirement reform.
All are issues that the current Congress has struggled to deal with, despite repeated promises of supporting the troops and keeping the nation secure.
Marine Corps Lt. Col. Amy McGrath, a political science instructor at the Naval Academy, said she thinks the political infighting doesn't affect most troops' ability to do their jobs. But it does weigh on their minds, especially her students.
"They don't have a framework of reference because they haven't seen it yet," she said. "I spent a year on Capitol Hill as a congressional fellow. ... The fact that they can't come together, it's all politics. It's not one side wanting to cut."
Pettigrew said the October 2013 government shutdown and preceding shutdown threats caused major concern among his fellow soldiers, especially with rumors of paycheck delays rampant. That only increased his dissatisfaction with the state of national politics.
President Obama gets similar low support from Military Times Poll respondents, with 55 percent disapproving of his performance as commander in chief.
Even support for the tea party was spotty, with just 13 percent of readers saying they back nearly all tea party candidates and 34 percent saying they never back the conservative offshoot.
Despite the mixed feelings about national candidates, military voters in recent years have been more engaged than their civilian peers. According to statistics from the Federal Voting Assistance Program, the number of troops voting in recent presidential elections has stayed around 55 percent, just below national rates, and around 45 percent in midterm elections, about 8 percentage points above civilian rates.
Despite his misgivings, Pettigrew said he probably will be one of those participating military voters.
"I don't particularly like my choices," the self-proclaimed independent voter said. "But I still really need to vote."?
Staff writers Andrew Tilghman, Hope Hodge Seck, David Larter and Stephen Losey contributed to this report.
Election results online
On election night, visit militarytimes.com/election2014 for live updates of the congressional races that will affect the defense community:
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That article was from Oct. 2014 just before the mid-terms (when the democrats lost control of the Senate). and had nothing to do with our Troops opinion of The Commander in Chief.
The current poll shows that the military has the lowest opinion of obama now and it has been degrading since obama came into office.
Nice try.
obama is a failure and The Troops know it.
Your article was from last month and was based on the one I posted. However, it misconstrued what the poll said.
But let's say you are right. Morale has dropped considerably since the midterms. What does that say about the newly elected Congress?
BTW, you can call Obama a failure all you want to, but you have never presented a cognizant post on why that is. All you do is paint with generalities and mock the intelligence of others. And yet, you understand little of what others present. 😛
Firing staffers for not performing is one thing, Obama cans people that are doing the job but don't agree with him. How many Defense Secretaries so far, about ten? Seems like it.
A politician firing people that don't agree with him? UNHEARD OF! ..........lol You are really reaching now........
Not me, brau. If I bring in military people with decades of experience and I have none, I trust them to get the job done, trust their decisions and opinions.
It's called leadership. It's called being a CEO.
[Edited on 2/21/2015 by alloak41]
Firing staffers for not performing is one thing, Obama cans people that are doing the job but don't agree with him. How many Defense Secretaries so far, about ten? Seems like it.
4. But the first one was a holdover from the Bush Administration. Obama has had 2 Dems and 2 Republicans as SecDef. How many other presidents have done that? I will help you out. None. In either party.
Not me, brau. If I bring in military people with decades of experience and I have none, I trust them to get the job done, trust their decisions and opinions.
It's called leadership. It's called being a CEO.
It's also called leadership getting rid of those that don't agree with you or don't do what you ask them to....... unless, of course, your name is Barack.....
Not me, brau. If I bring in military people with decades of experience and I have none, I trust them to get the job done, trust their decisions and opinions.
It's called leadership. It's called being a CEO.
Why do I get the feeling you have never worked closely with a CEO?
Incidentally, this country isn't a corporation. The President is not a CEO. He is the Commander in Chief. It only makes sense that his underlings toe the line or beat it on down the line.
Not me, brau. If I bring in military people with decades of experience and I have none, I trust them to get the job done, trust their decisions and opinions.
It's called leadership. It's called being a CEO.
Why do I get the feeling you have never worked closely with a CEO?
Incidentally, this country isn't a corporation. The President is not a CEO. He is the Commander in Chief. It only makes sense that his underlings toe the line or beat it on down the line.
Totally wrong. You want people to come in and make recommendations based on their talent, experience and expertise - not on what they think you will agree with. That might work in the faculty lounge. In this case we're talking military operations, of which they've likely forgotten more than Obama ever knew.
Not me, brau. If I bring in military people with decades of experience and I have none, I trust them to get the job done, trust their decisions and opinions.
It's called leadership. It's called being a CEO.
Why do I get the feeling you have never worked closely with a CEO?
Incidentally, this country isn't a corporation. The President is not a CEO. He is the Commander in Chief. It only makes sense that his underlings toe the line or beat it on down the line.
Totally wrong. You want people to come in and make recommendations based on their talent, experience and expertise - not on what they think you will agree with. That might work in the faculty lounge. In this case we're talking military operations, of which they've likely forgotten more than Obama ever knew.
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Exactly right.
It is clear that obama's micro-managing of the Pentagon is a very sore point with the military.
He fired 3 generals and the head of DIA, not for doing a bad job, but for telling truth to power.
obama doesn't want to hear the truth regarding military operations unless it fits his political agenda.
His last SEC DEF was fired because he refused to sign off on releasing Gitmo terrorists back to the battlefield.
It would seem obama and jarrett are more interested in accommodating trans-gender military fashion preferences.
Not me, brau. If I bring in military people with decades of experience and I have none, I trust them to get the job done, trust their decisions and opinions.
It's called leadership. It's called being a CEO.
Why do I get the feeling you have never worked closely with a CEO?
Incidentally, this country isn't a corporation. The President is not a CEO. He is the Commander in Chief. It only makes sense that his underlings toe the line or beat it on down the line.
Totally wrong. You want people to come in and make recommendations based on their talent, experience and expertise - not on what they think you will agree with. That might work in the faculty lounge. In this case we're talking military operations, of which they've likely forgotten more than Obama ever knew.
That isn't how the military works. You succeed or you are gone.
Not me, brau. If I bring in military people with decades of experience and I have none, I trust them to get the job done, trust their decisions and opinions.
It's called leadership. It's called being a CEO.
Why do I get the feeling you have never worked closely with a CEO?
Incidentally, this country isn't a corporation. The President is not a CEO. He is the Commander in Chief. It only makes sense that his underlings toe the line or beat it on down the line.
Totally wrong. You want people to come in and make recommendations based on their talent, experience and expertise - not on what they think you will agree with. That might work in the faculty lounge. In this case we're talking military operations, of which they've likely forgotten more than Obama ever knew.
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Exactly right.
It is clear that obama's micro-managing of the Pentagon is a very sore point with the military.
He fired 3 generals and the head of DIA, not for doing a bad job, but for telling truth to power.
obama doesn't want to hear the truth regarding military operations unless it fits his political agenda.His last SEC DEF was fired because he refused to sign off on releasing Gitmo terrorists back to the battlefield.
It would seem obama and jarrett are more interested in accommodating trans-gender military fashion preferences.
You have links for these claims. Oh yeah, you don't do research for others. Mostly because you don't do your own research either. You pull facts out of your butt.
Not me, brau. If I bring in military people with decades of experience and I have none, I trust them to get the job done, trust their decisions and opinions.
It's called leadership. It's called being a CEO.
Why do I get the feeling you have never worked closely with a CEO?
Incidentally, this country isn't a corporation. The President is not a CEO. He is the Commander in Chief. It only makes sense that his underlings toe the line or beat it on down the line.
Totally wrong. You want people to come in and make recommendations based on their talent, experience and expertise - not on what they think you will agree with. That might work in the faculty lounge. In this case we're talking military operations, of which they've likely forgotten more than Obama ever knew.
_________________________________________________________________
Exactly right.
It is clear that obama's micro-managing of the Pentagon is a very sore point with the military.
He fired 3 generals and the head of DIA, not for doing a bad job, but for telling truth to power.
obama doesn't want to hear the truth regarding military operations unless it fits his political agenda.His last SEC DEF was fired because he refused to sign off on releasing Gitmo terrorists back to the battlefield.
It would seem obama and jarrett are more interested in accommodating trans-gender military fashion preferences.
You have links for these claims. Oh yeah, you don't do research for others. Mostly because you don't do your own research either. You pull facts out of your butt.
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Well informed people know these things.
Apparently you are not one of them.
BTW - The NY Times and MSNBC are nothing more than liberal blogs.
Try obtaining information from professional sources.
Not me, brau. If I bring in military people with decades of experience and I have none, I trust them to get the job done, trust their decisions and opinions.
It's called leadership. It's called being a CEO.
Why do I get the feeling you have never worked closely with a CEO?
Incidentally, this country isn't a corporation. The President is not a CEO. He is the Commander in Chief. It only makes sense that his underlings toe the line or beat it on down the line.
Totally wrong. You want people to come in and make recommendations based on their talent, experience and expertise - not on what they think you will agree with. That might work in the faculty lounge. In this case we're talking military operations, of which they've likely forgotten more than Obama ever knew.
_________________________________________________________________
Exactly right.
It is clear that obama's micro-managing of the Pentagon is a very sore point with the military.
He fired 3 generals and the head of DIA, not for doing a bad job, but for telling truth to power.
obama doesn't want to hear the truth regarding military operations unless it fits his political agenda.His last SEC DEF was fired because he refused to sign off on releasing Gitmo terrorists back to the battlefield.
It would seem obama and jarrett are more interested in accommodating trans-gender military fashion preferences.
You have links for these claims. Oh yeah, you don't do research for others. Mostly because you don't do your own research either. You pull facts out of your butt.
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Well informed people know these things.
Apparently you are not one of them.
BTW - The NY Times and MSNBC are nothing more than liberal blogs.
Try obtaining information from professional sources.
And yet, you used a Washington Post report to prove your point yesterday. 😛
New Poll Shows Just How Much The Military Dislikes Obama, And The Results Are MIND BLOWING
Michael Cantrell — December 22, 2014
It’s not really a big shocker to say those serving in the military aren’t big fans of Barack Obama, but when you see just how much our men and women in uniform despise their “Commander-In-Chief,” it will simply blow your mind.
This is astounding, yet for some strange reason, very comforting.
From Weasel Zippers via Military Times:
… The long-term effects of Obama’s social policies on the military remain unknown. But one thing is clear: He is a deeper unpopular commander in chief among the troops.
According to a Military Times survey of almost 2,300 active-duty service members, Obama’s popularity — never high to begin with — has crumbled, falling from 35 percent in 2009 to just 15 percent this year, while his disapproval ratings have increased to 55 percent from 40 percent over that time.
So I guess completely disrespecting the military by attempting to cut their pay raises, not awarding them certain benefits they need to cover their medical bills, and preventing them from receiving adequate healthcare takes a negative toll on how they perceive leadership.
Who would’ve thought?
Obama has repeatedly slammed our armed forces and through his many lawless actions has proven he’s not leadership material, nor does he possess qualities our troops can admire or look up to.
How can a man effectively lead the nation’s military if those under him don’t like him or trust him?
The simple answer is he can’t, which is why our foreign policy is a joke and our response to threats to our freedom and safety continue to go largely unchecked.
Let’s hope the next occupant of the Oval Office is someone who respects, reveres, and loves our military and can effectively perform the duties of their office to keep America safe.
The current tactic of the left is simply deny deny deny. I mean its obvious the troops don't like Obama. Everyone knows it. It's not really in disupte. There are things the left could say to explain it. For example they can say that Obama is doing what is necessary to make savings on the budget and the forces don't like that. Or they can say well Obama's politics are disagreeable to them since they happen to generally be conservative. Or they could say well loss of popularity is the price that has to be paid to do the right thing.
But no. They simply deny deny deny. Black is white. Up is down. Do you believe me or your lying eyes? It's really tiresome.
Obama is not popular among the military personnel.
Objectivity is lost. Evidence is ignored. Support is unconditional. Responses are reactionary, not grounded in thought or logic.....
It's like a Cult.
Veterans, the republicans always have your back: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/02/27/1280922/-With-just-41-votes-Republican-senators-block-veterans-benefits-bill#
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/199480-gop-blocks-veterans-bill
http://samuel-warde.com/2014/12/republicans-block-veteran-suicide-bill/
[Edited on 2/23/2015 by pops42]http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/23/1249904/-GOP-s-actual-track-record-on-supporting-veterans
if you are a war veteran, you are voting against your survival if you vote republican.
[Edited on 2/23/2015 by pops42]
[Edited on 2/23/2015 by pops42]
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Nice try.
Actual active troops and veterans know better than to listen to the liberal attack websites and blogs.
The Military Times poll is just one proof of the failure of obama.
Ask a real soldier and they'll tell you the truth.
You know, that truth thing liberlas have yet to understand.
Is this the full report from The Military Times that this thread is about?
If so, there's a whole lot more in there than just that the troops hate Obama.
Is this the full report from The Military Times that this thread is about?
If so, there's a whole lot more in there than just that the troops hate Obama.
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No.
The thread is all about the first post with the link to the actual report.
Is this the full report from The Military Times that this thread is about?
If so, there's a whole lot more in there than just that the troops hate Obama.
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No.
The thread is all about the first post with the link to the actual report.
The first post to the summary blurb at Ace News Services? I don't see a link to the report you are referring to, must be missing it. Can you help me out?
Is this the full report from The Military Times that this thread is about?
If so, there's a whole lot more in there than just that the troops hate Obama.
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No.
The thread is all about the first post with the link to the actual report.The first post to the summary blurb at Ace News Services? I don't see a link to the report you are referring to, must be missing it. Can you help me out?
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Ace News Services is a U.S. Military service from The Military Times.
Is this the full report from The Military Times that this thread is about?
If so, there's a whole lot more in there than just that the troops hate Obama.
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No.
The thread is all about the first post with the link to the actual report.The first post to the summary blurb at Ace News Services? I don't see a link to the report you are referring to, must be missing it. Can you help me out?
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Ace News Services is a U.S. Military service from The Military Times.
It actually appears to be a blog by a fellow in England.
Is there a link to The Military Times report that the Ace News Services summary blurb refers to?
The headline says: MILITARY TIMES POLL ON OBAMA SAYS TROOPS SUPPORT ALL TIME LOW
Where is this poll at The Military Times? I'm very interested to read more about it than just a summary blurb.
Is this the full report from The Military Times that this thread is about?
If so, there's a whole lot more in there than just that the troops hate Obama.
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No.
The thread is all about the first post with the link to the actual report.The first post to the summary blurb at Ace News Services? I don't see a link to the report you are referring to, must be missing it. Can you help me out?
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Ace News Services is a U.S. Military service from The Military Times.
It actually appears to be a blog by a fellow in England.
Is there a link to The Military Times report that the Ace News Services summary blurb refers to?
The headline says: MILITARY TIMES POLL ON OBAMA SAYS TROOPS SUPPORT ALL TIME LOW
Where is this poll at The Military Times? I'm very interested to read more about it than just a summary blurb.
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Thanks for the link. This is a very in-depth report, and the troops are fed up with a lot more than the president, including their senior officers, congress, and the Republican party. They are tired of cuts in defense spending and war and deployment after 13 years. I can't say as I blame them for any of their complaints at this point.
When The Troops have an unfavorable opinion of The Commander in Chief, The Nation has a serious problem.
Same poll referenced:
http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/22/politics/obama-military-low-approval-rating/index.html
http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/22/poll-obamas-support-among-military-craters/
http://www.bing.com/news/search?q=Military+Times+Obama+Poll&qpvt=military+times+obama+poll&FORM=EWRE
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/military-president-approval/2014/12/22/id/614425/
