There was absolutely no dialogue or conversation about this election, there could not be given the Democrats view and gang like mentality about expressing views like this.
I respect your views, Vince, and I somewhat agree with this sentiment.
My question is, why does the right get a pass for every single vile thing they say? Why does this have to be one-sided?
You think no one hurls insults at liberals?
Wait, I get it...since liberals are "tolerant" they should just stand there and take it.
Sorry.
There was absolutely no dialogue or conversation about this election, there could not be given the Democrats view and gang like mentality about expressing views like this. Who wants to have a conversation about voting if this is going to be the response?...Me? I voted for Gary Johnson, but if I expressed any type of anti-Hillary view, I was shouted down with the assumption being I was a Trump supporter. Wow, just wow. The party that preaches tolerance has zero understanding of what the word means. "Well, I am tolerant, but not of him"...lol...And still it continues with the left saying "No one would admit being a Trump supporter because they were ashamed" Wrong!...No one would say it because they did not want to hear the vile verbal assault that followed. You can not have it both ways, claiming to be "Open minded" and then ripping into someone who has the audacity to disagree with you. This is why the pollsters missed it as well... So when some millennial is "protesting"..LOL, burning the flag, cliaming it was not fair, needs a safe space or wears a pin I can not help but laugh out loud. The same goes for the "Adults" here who continue to write about their disdain.
Get over it for heaven's sake.....Give the guy a chance, who knows?... I for one think he is going to turn out to be quite a bit more centrist than he preaches.
Hillary Clinton was definitely a flawed candidate and few peoples' first choice (people got excited for Bernie Sanders, but that doesn't really matter now). I hate the self-righteousness on either side, but I think most peoples' reaction was not necessarily pro-Hillary, but legitimate fear of Trump and his habitual lying and penchant for believing misinformation he read on Twitter. He convinced a lot of people he was going to shake up DC, and now he is talking about appointing decades-old insiders. As for protests, they are by and large peaceful and that is their constitutional right. People are not going to roll-over and watch him dismantle what still makes this country great. Remember that the GOP hardly rolled over and gave Obama the keys to the kingdom the next time you think people should "get over it". Get used to it.
I'm not upset that a republican won I'm upset because Trump is vile disgusting pimp and those who voted for him will be very sorry.
" Trump is vile disgusting pimp"...This is exactly why he won. When is the left going to understand that fact?
There was absolutely no dialogue or conversation about this election, there could not be given the Democrats view and gang like mentality about expressing views like this. Who wants to have a conversation about voting if this is going to be the response?...Me? I voted for Gary Johnson, but if I expressed any type of anti-Hillary view, I was shouted down with the assumption being I was a Trump supporter. Wow, just wow. The party that preaches tolerance has zero understanding of what the word means. "Well, I am tolerant, but not of him"...lol...And still it continues with the left saying "No one would admit being a Trump supporter because they were ashamed" Wrong!...No one would say it because they did not want to hear the vile verbal assault that followed. You can not have it both ways, claiming to be "Open minded" and then ripping into someone who has the audacity to disagree with you. This is why the pollsters missed it as well... So when some millennial is "protesting"..LOL, burning the flag, cliaming it was not fair, needs a safe space or wears a pin I can not help but laugh out loud. The same goes for the "Adults" here who continue to write about their disdain.
Get over it for heaven's sake.....Give the guy a chance, who knows?... I for one think he is going to turn out to be quite a bit more centrist than he preaches.
I wouldn't count on any of this happening. Not with the average liberal mindset pertaining to folks that don't agree with them. It's not a matter of political disagreement When any non-liberal is just a bad human being in general that doesn't leave room for much of anything else.
Liberals are much more intelligent, trendy and cool, mentally stable and just superior in every possible way.. I may spend the rest of my life trying to measure up to them.
Liberals are much more intelligent, trendy and cool...
They sure have the celebrities that is for sure, I mean what do we have, Toby Keith, Ted Nugent, Chaci and an insignificant Baldwin brother.
It's not a matter of political disagreement When any non-liberal is just a bad human being in general that doesn't leave room for much of anything else.
Oh, yes. Right on cue. Ignore every single thing ever done or said by the right wing for the last 30 years.
Why am I (or anyone else) compelled to respect someone who hates me?
I flip flop my voting affiliation not infrequently; but the level wing response is always more "myopic in scope."
Voted McCain in 2008 - was told by the left "That means you are voting for Pallin." No it doesn't it means I'm voting for McCain (who by the way is still alive and healthy)
Voted Obama in 2012 - my right wing friends didn't agree but made no sort of coments
2016 - I eft the ballot blank because I couldn't bring my self to vote for either. Only my left wing friends said "That means you are voting for Trump." My right wing friends said merely "Oh"
There was absolutely no dialogue or conversation about this election, there could not be given the Democrats view and gang like mentality about expressing views like this.
I respect your views, Vince, and I somewhat agree with this sentiment.
My question is, why does the right get a pass for every single vile thing they say? Why does this have to be one-sided?
You think no one hurls insults at liberals?
Wait, I get it...since liberals are "tolerant" they should just stand there and take it.
Sorry.
I don't believe either party "Gets a pass" It is, in my humble opinion, quite cyclical. Both groups can share the guilt equitably....
Insults aside... Yes, I believe if you claim to be tolerant and expect it from others, then you do turn the other cheek and you walk away, allowing for a difference of opinion no mater how distasteful you might find it
It's not a matter of political disagreement When any non-liberal is just a bad human being in general that doesn't leave room for much of anything else.
Oh, yes. Right on cue. Ignore every single thing ever done or said by the right wing for the last 30 years.
Why am I (or anyone else) compelled to respect someone who hates me?
That's what makes us different, and thus, me a non-liberal. I don't expect people to agree with me. Some do and that's great...But if they don't, certainly don't feel they lack intelligence or have mental health problems. That doesn't even make sense. Frankly, I'm at a loss to understand it much less base an almost entire campaign strategy around it.
" Trump is vile disgusting pimp"...This is exactly why he won. When is the left going to understand that fact?
You got this part right for sure. We understand completely that they support him because of his content.
There was absolutely no dialogue or conversation about this election, there could not be given the Democrats view and gang like mentality about expressing views like this. Who wants to have a conversation about voting if this is going to be the response?...Me? I voted for Gary Johnson, but if I expressed any type of anti-Hillary view, I was shouted down with the assumption being I was a Trump supporter. Wow, just wow. The party that preaches tolerance has zero understanding of what the word means. "Well, I am tolerant, but not of him"...lol...And still it continues with the left saying "No one would admit being a Trump supporter because they were ashamed" Wrong!...No one would say it because they did not want to hear the vile verbal assault that followed. You can not have it both ways, claiming to be "Open minded" and then ripping into someone who has the audacity to disagree with you. This is why the pollsters missed it as well... So when some millennial is "protesting"..LOL, burning the flag, cliaming it was not fair, needs a safe space or wears a pin I can not help but laugh out loud. The same goes for the "Adults" here who continue to write about their disdain.
Get over it for heaven's sake.....Give the guy a chance, who knows?... I for one think he is going to turn out to be quite a bit more centrist than he preaches.
If someone on this site or in the media began bashing "music fans who waste their time following around entertainers to get a toy signed, like a bunch of children", You would be offended, and rightfully so. I do not think the solution is to simply "get over it".
[Edited on 11/15/2016 by BoytonBrother]
It's not a matter of political disagreement When any non-liberal is just a bad human being in general that doesn't leave room for much of anything else.
Oh, yes. Right on cue. Ignore every single thing ever done or said by the right wing for the last 30 years.
Why am I (or anyone else) compelled to respect someone who hates me?
That's what makes us different, and thus, me a non-liberal. I don't expect people to agree with me. Some do and that's great...But if they don't, certainly don't feel they lack intelligence or have mental health problems. That doesn't even make sense. Frankly, I'm at a loss to understand it much less base an almost entire campaign strategy around it.
Why am I (or anyone else) compelled to respect someone who hates me?
I'm not talking about mere disagreement. The hatred for the liberals and the left has been clearly stated by you and millions of others for many years, and last week it was affirmed quite clearly.
"Bush Derangement Syndrome" isn't an insinuation of a mental health problem?
Why am I compelled to respect that? You yourself have called for the entire liberal belief system to be "eradicated." That's a sentiment born of respect?
What makes us different is that you get to say whatever you want and I should just take it and not respond?
My question is, why does the right get a pass for every single vile thing they say? Why does this have to be one-sided?
Perhaps because it WAS one-sided. Was anybody out calling Hillary Clinton supporters a bunch of mentally unstable idiots and racist redneck hayseeds based on their support for her? It became obvious that the Democrats approach was not only to defeat Trump, but squash his supporters as well. Even the Dem nominee herself got in on the act.
Backfired big time.
It's not a matter of political disagreement When any non-liberal is just a bad human being in general that doesn't leave room for much of anything else.
Oh, yes. Right on cue. Ignore every single thing ever done or said by the right wing for the last 30 years.
Why am I (or anyone else) compelled to respect someone who hates me?
That's what makes us different, and thus, me a non-liberal. I don't expect people to agree with me. Some do and that's great...But if they don't, certainly don't feel they lack intelligence or have mental health problems. That doesn't even make sense. Frankly, I'm at a loss to understand it much less base an almost entire campaign strategy around it.
Why am I (or anyone else) compelled to respect someone who hates me?
I'm not talking about mere disagreement. The hatred for the liberals and the left has been clearly stated by you and millions of others for many years, and last week it was affirmed quite clearly.
"Bush Derangement Syndrome" isn't an insinuation of a mental health problem?
Why am I compelled to respect that? You yourself have called for the entire liberal belief system to be "eradicated." That's a sentiment born of respect?
What makes us different is that you get to say whatever you want and I should just take it and not respond?
1. Who hates you?
2. All Liberals love conservatism and all who hold those views? I see some pretty funny ways of showing it.
3. No, it was an expression and never classified as a mental health condition.
4. I'd also like to see the Braves go 162-0 next year.
5. Everybody here gets to say what they want, including Bhawk himself, and respond as well.
My question is, why does the right get a pass for every single vile thing they say? Why does this have to be one-sided?
Perhaps because it WAS one-sided. Was anybody out calling Hillary Clinton supporters a bunch of mentally unstable idiots and racist redneck hayseeds based on their support for her? It became obvious that the Democrats approach was not only to defeat Trump, but squash his supporters as well. Even the Dem nominee herself got in on the act.
Backfired big time.
So, not one insult was cast for an entire year or more against Hillary Clinton, her supporters, liberals or Democrats? By anyone? Anywhere? Ever?
You really live in that thick of a bubble?
On a lighter note, the "dozens" of Hollywood actors and such, who all proclaimed prior to the election that they would leave the country if Trump was elected, now are scrambling for alternative explanations for not doing so. The real one, that a Hollywood career is hard to do away from Hollywood, is not mentioned. Staying here for "the fight" is mentioned. At least the pollster ate the cricket, that was a person of honor. Kept to his word. I would have grimaced, he was tough. So I surmise the Hollywooders were making idle promise on a perceived sure bet, as NY Times said, 84% probability, why didn't they make it 100%........ To keep the perception of impartiality?
I hope what everyone walks away from this with, regardless of political slant, is what a sham the USA media is and was. I believe RT (Russian) news was actually better than USA for just plain reporting. The "polls" were a joke. Did they ever call you? I mean, it was steering and manipulation at it's best. The fact in one week polls could disagree by up to 10% points to the comedy. Yet the were quoted as some barometer of Truth! I think all should be concerned of media steering our minds.
and ted nugent isn't dead or in jail after 2012 election.
maybe we shouldn't take some of these threats so seriously. 
Piers Morgan included
It's not a matter of political disagreement When any non-liberal is just a bad human being in general that doesn't leave room for much of anything else.
Oh, yes. Right on cue. Ignore every single thing ever done or said by the right wing for the last 30 years.
Why am I (or anyone else) compelled to respect someone who hates me?
That's what makes us different, and thus, me a non-liberal. I don't expect people to agree with me. Some do and that's great...But if they don't, certainly don't feel they lack intelligence or have mental health problems. That doesn't even make sense. Frankly, I'm at a loss to understand it much less base an almost entire campaign strategy around it.
Why am I (or anyone else) compelled to respect someone who hates me?
I'm not talking about mere disagreement. The hatred for the liberals and the left has been clearly stated by you and millions of others for many years, and last week it was affirmed quite clearly.
"Bush Derangement Syndrome" isn't an insinuation of a mental health problem?
Why am I compelled to respect that? You yourself have called for the entire liberal belief system to be "eradicated." That's a sentiment born of respect?
What makes us different is that you get to say whatever you want and I should just take it and not respond?
1. Who hates you?
2. All Liberals love conservatism and all who hold those views? I see some pretty funny ways of showing it.
3. No, it was an expression and never classified as a mental health condition.
4. I'd also like to see the Braves go 162-0 next year.
5. Everybody here gets to say what they want, including Bhawk himself, and respond as well.
You know what, I've already engaged with you way more than I intended to. My mistake.
If someone on this site or in the media began bashing "music fans who waste their time following around entertainers to get a toy signed, like a bunch of children", You would be offended, and rightfully so. I do not think the solution is to simply "get over it".
If this is directed at me and my quest to have musicians I admire sign my guitar....
.....you have got to be kidding. Offended?.....Hahahaha, that is the funniest thing I've read here this year.
I don't buy it for a second. I've seen you get angry for much less.
I don't buy it for a second. I've seen you get angry for much less.
Angry?....hahaha!.....name one time. I have pretty thick skin.
I hope what everyone walks away from this with, regardless of political slant, is what a sham the USA media is and was. I believe RT (Russian) news was actually better than USA for just plain reporting. The "polls" were a joke. Did they ever call you? I mean, it was steering and manipulation at it's best. The fact in one week polls could disagree by up to 10% points to the comedy. Yet the were quoted as some barometer of Truth! I think all should be concerned of media steering our minds.
Plus, they got caught colluding with the Democrat nominee for President, exactly the type of behavior they're supposed to root out, investigate, expose.
But to be caught red-handed actually participating as political advocates in this way is almost as funny as it is sad.....And a little scary.
yes, and also the number of times I heard snip cut quotes used out of context as shock headline twist material. Actual 180 degree spin to be inflammatory and portray as they wanted. What scares me is people too busy to read articles, do cross section multi source research, and form own opinions. Busy people who rely on US television news and 20-90 second "reports" as a basis for their opinions is very, very scarey. Don't put down either Clinton or Trump unless you have went to their web sites and read their stances on issues. Not some flunky reporters opinion on them. Due diligence takes less time than we all fritter in a day, no excuse.
^ Excellent posts.
^ Excellent posts.
(Pssst. This is you in a nutshell. Seek a few diverse news sources and don't buy into memes as facts)
