The Trump Effect, and How It Spreads

This is getting silly now, folks. How about a few facts (courtesy of the NY Daily News):
Fact: As sketched on his website, Trump’s tax and spending plans would add as much as $15 trillion to the national debt over the next 10 years, according to the nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget.
Fact: Balancing Trump’s budget would necessitate huge cuts to Social Security and Medicare, which Trump has pledged to protect, as well as cuts to the military, which Trump has pledged to make “bigger, better, faster than ever before so that nobody messes with us” while also saying he wants to “do it for a lot less.”
Fact: His tax plans would deliver massive windfalls to the richest Americans at the expense of the working and middle classes. The richest 0.1% of Americans would get an average tax cut of $1.3 million in 2017, or 19% of their after-tax income; the average cut for everyone else would be just over $5,000, or 7% of their income.
Fact: Trump’s promise to save $300 million annually by negotiating drug prices through Medicare is preposterous given that the entire program cost $78 billion in 2014.
Fact: Imposing a 45% tariff on products manufactured in China would punish the world with a devastating trade war.
Fact: Trump’s promise to torture — not just to waterboard — terrorists would violate the Geneva Conventions and endanger captured U.S. troops.
Fact: Trump has flip-flopped on ISIS, saying both that he would “bomb the s--t out of” the terror group and leave the fight in Syria to Russia with the shrug, “if they want to hit ISIS, that’s OK with me.”
Fact: His signature bit of bluster, “attack the oil and keep the oil,” makes no sense when subjected to a moment’s scrutiny.
Fact: Trump’s oft-repeated statement that he opposed the war in Iraq has been directly contradicted by how he answered in 2002 when asked whether he supported a military invasion: “Yeah, I guess so.”
Fact: He claims he never went bankrupt. Larded with debt, his hotel, resort and casino companies filed for bankruptcy four times.
Fact: Trump claims to have lost hundreds of friends on 9/11 — yet he won’t name one of them.
Fact: While he postures as a veterans’ champion, the Donald J. Trump Foundation gave just $57,000 to veterans’ causes over a recent five-year span. It donated far more to the Clinton Foundation, the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, and political nonprofits.
Fact: Fact checkers who have scoured all political candidates find that Trump departs from the truth with dizzying frequency: 77% of his scrutinized statements in this campaign were totally or mostly false. Just 6% were true or mostly true.
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Ah, The NY Daily News, a far-left tabloid.
How do you think they would portray Donald Trump?
Noticeably missing is their opinion of Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders; or as a Hillary Clinton campaigner at a caucus Saturday yelled at the caucus members “don’t vote for that socialist Jew!
The so-called “facts” above are nothing more than a liberal’s hit piece and is factually baseless.
Here are some facts about Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders playing fast and loose with the truth:AP FACT CHECK: Clinton, Sanders on health care, donors
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ap-fact-check-clinton-sanders-health-care-more-030226633--election.htmlBy RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR and JULIE BYKOWICZ February 11, 2016 11:44 PM
WASHINGTON (AP) — In their latest debate, Hillary Clinton glossed over the big-money donors juicing her White House ambitions while Bernie Sanders offered disputed numbers behind his plan for a government-financed health system.
A look at some of the claims in the Democratic presidential debate and how they compare with the facts:
CLINTON: "I'm very proud of the fact that we have more than 750,000 donors, and the vast majority of them are giving small contributions. ... We both have a lot of small donors."
THE FACTS: Her presidential run is being supported by wealthy donors in ways that Sanders' is not.
Last year's fundraising reports show that Sanders raised fully 72 percent of his campaign money from people who gave $200 or less, while for Clinton those donors accounted for just 16 percent of her funds.
Clinton stretched when putting herself in Sanders' league when it comes to grassroots financing. She said they are both getting small donors and that "sets us apart" from Republican candidates. But her rate of small-dollar contributions isn't that much different than that of some of the GOP contenders.
She also minimized the impact of the super political action committee supporting her effort, saying the group was founded to help President Barack Obama and she has no say over its operations. But no candidate can control the super PACS that are devoted to helping their candidacies, yet they can be vital in White House efforts because they can raise unlimited money and spend heavily on advertising and other help.
Although Priorities USA may have formed to help Obama, it's now steered by her trusted advisers. In fact, Guy Cecil, a former Clinton staffer, was brought in to lead the group last year as a signal to her supporters that they could trust Priorities USA to serve her well.
BERNIE SANDERS: "Our Medicare-for-all, single-payer proposal will save the average middle-class family $5,000 a year."
HILLARY CLINTON: "The numbers don't add up."
THE FACTS: More detail and analysis are needed on Sanders' plan for cradle-to-grave government-financed health care for all. But two early assessments suggest that the accounting comes up short.
The nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates that the tax increases in Sanders' plan would only cover about 75 percent of what Sanders says it will cost, creating a $3 trillion hole in the federal budget over 10 years.
Emory University economist Kenneth Thorpe says the proposal also underestimates the cost of having the government provide doctors' services, hospitalization, long-term care, and vision and dental care — all without premiums, copays or deductibles.
According to Thorpe, the Sanders plan falls short by about $11 trillion over 10 years. He says the income and payroll tax increases required to pay fully for the proposal would mean 71 percent of those who now have private insurance would pay more.
Thorpe served in the administration of Bill Clinton, handling economic estimates of the former president's failed health care overhaul plan. He says he has no involvement with the Hillary Clinton campaign.
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SANDERS: "A male African-American baby born today stands a one-in-four chance of ending up in jail. That is beyond unspeakable."THE FACTS: Sanders, like Clinton in an earlier debate, exaggerated the rate of incarceration for black males.
A 2003 report from the Bureau of Justice Statistics said, "About 1 in 3 black males, 1 in 6 Hispanic males, and 1 in 17 white males are expected to go to prison during their lifetime, if current incarceration rates remain unchanged." But that was only a projection. The report went on to say that at the time, 16.6 percent of adult black males had actually ever gone to prison, or 1 in 6.
Since then, the incarceration rate for black men has actually gone down instead of up, according to the Sentencing Project.
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CLINTON: "He wrote a foreword for a book that basically argued voters should have buyer's remorse when it comes to President Obama's leadership and legacy. And I just couldn't agree — disagree more with those kinds of comments."THE FACTS: Sanders didn't write a foreword to that book, "Buyer's Remorse: How Obama Let Progressives Down," by Bill Press.
Instead, he contributed a blurb that's on the back cover and says nothing about Obama: "Bill Press makes the case why, long after taking the oath of office, the next president of the United States must keep rallying the people who elected him or her on behalf of progressive causes. That is the only way real change will happen."
An out-of-context excerpt of that blurb is selectively placed at the top of the front cover: "Bill Press makes the case ... read this book," which suggests that Sanders is cheerleading the case by liberals that Obama has not been liberal enough. But that was not reflected in what Sanders wrote.
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SANDERS: "There's not one Republican candidate for president who agrees that climate change is real."THE FACTS: Not so. Some of the GOP front-runners are clearly skeptics on climate science, but not all the party's candidates can be lumped together on this topic. Jeb Bush, in an email interview with Bloomberg BNA in July, wrote that "the climate is changing," adding, "I don't think anybody can argue it's not. Human activity has contributed to it."
And at a 2012 fundraising event, Ohio Gov. John Kasich said, "This isn't popular to always say, but I believe there is a problem with climates — climate change in the atmosphere."
Two of the top GOP leaders in national polls — Donald Trump and Sen. Ted Cruz — have been blunt and dismissive of man-made global warming.
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AP Science Writer Seth Borenstein contributed to this report.EDITOR'S NOTE _ A look at political claims that take shortcuts with the facts or don't tell the full story
NY daily news a "far left tabloid" 😛 its owned by rupert murdoch, you imbecile.
Wrong, pops, Murdoch owns the New York Post. But the NY Daily News is not a far left paper either. They do, however, strongly oppose Trump.

Wrong, pops, Murdoch owns the New York Post. But the NY Daily News is not a far left paper either. They do, however, strongly oppose Trump.
You do know that mule labels everything that doesn't subscribe to his peculiar version of right wing fanaticism as "far left" and as such that label, particularly when coming from him, means less than nothing, right? Maybe he can explain why a "far left" rag like the NY Daily News endorsed Romney in 2012? Yeah, right.
But, since mule's response was to post fact checking from the AP, here is a few more AP fact checking pieces that he might find interesting (or not, lol):
AP FACT CHECK: Fumbles from the Republican field
By CALVIN WOODWARD and JOSH BOAK - Associated Press - Sunday, February 7, 2016WASHINGTON (AP) - What happened in Iowa didn’t stay in Iowa. And when it reached the stage in the latest Republican presidential debate, Ted Cruz had some explaining to do.
Cruz wasn’t quite square with the facts Saturday night when he explained why and how his campaign spread the false insinuation that rival Ben Carson was quitting the race after the Iowa caucuses. The episode was among a number of fumbles from the field in the intense confrontation before Tuesday’s New Hampshire primary.
Among them:
-Chris Christie misstated the U.S. policy on paying ransom to hostage-takers.
-Donald Trump botched tax numbers.
-In his zeal to condemn the Obama administration’s immigration record, Cruz once again vastly overstated deportations under the previous two presidents.
Some of the claims and how they compare with the facts:
CRUZ on why his campaign spread inaccurate suggestions to voters on Iowa caucus night that Carson was quitting: “My political team saw CNN’s report, breaking news, and forwarded that news to our volunteers.”
THE FACTS: Cruz’s campaign took accurate reports from CNN and twisted them to make it appear that Carson was quitting. The motive: to convince caucus-goers that support for Carson would be wasted and they should back the Texas senator instead. Even while apologizing to Carson for the tactics, Cruz tried to deflect blame.
CNN on air and in tweets said Carson, in an unusual move, planned to go home to Florida after the caucuses, instead of directly to New Hampshire to campaign for the next contest. But that information was coupled with assurances from the Carson campaign that he was not getting out of the race, but rather planning to attend the National Prayer Breakfast in Washington after Florida.
Based on that, the Cruz campaign pushed out its own story line, saying Carson would reportedly “stop” campaigning after Iowa and would be “making a big announcement next week.” In addition, a key Cruz supporter, Rep. Steve King, tweeted that Carson was planning “the equivalent of suspending.” Candidates who quit a primary race “suspend” their campaigns.
___TRUMP: “Right now, we’re the highest taxed country in the world.”
THE FACTS: Far from it. The U.S. tax burden pales in comparison with that of other industrialized countries.
Taxes made up 26 percent of the total U.S. economy in 2014, according to the 34-nation Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development. That measure looks at the entire tax burden, which is different than tax rates that can be gamed through loopholes, deductions and credits.
In Sweden, the tax burden is 42.7 percent of the economy. It’s 33.6 percent in Slovenia (Trump’s wife, Melania, was born in the part of Yugoslavia that became Slovenia). Britain clocks in at 32.6 percent, while Germany’s burden is 36.1 percent.
Where is the tax burden lower than the United States?
South Korea, Chile and Mexico.
___CRUZ on whether waterboarding is torture: “Under the law, torture is excruciating pain that is equivalent to losing organs and systems, so under the definition of torture, it is not. It is enhanced interrogation, it is vigorous interrogation, but it does not meet the generally recognized definition of torture.”
THE FACTS: One generally recognized definition, the United Nations Torture Convention, does not limit the meaning of torture to physical, disabling pain. It defines torture as “severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental,” and mental anguish is at the core of waterboarding, which simulates drowning and now is banned by the U.S. Even so, there is no consensus that waterboarding, for all its severity, constitutes torture in legal terms.
The U.N. convention, for example, says suffering inflicted as part of “lawful sanctions” may not fit the definition of torture.
Cruz would not rule out restoring waterboarding as president. He said it would not be commonplace, and he would not let low-level officers do it.
___CRUZ, defending his vow to deport 11 million people living in the U.S. illegally: “I would note that in eight years Bill Clinton deported 12 million people. In eight years George Bush deported 10 million people. Enforcing the law. We can do it.”
THE FACTS: Statistics from Immigration and Customs Enforcement show that roughly 1.6 million were deported under Bush, not 11 million. Under Clinton, about 870,000 immigrants were deported, not 12 million, according to the Migration Policy Institute. So far, about 2.4 million have been deported under the Obama administration.
To get the swollen figures, Cruz appears to be combining deportations with arrests made by the Border Patrol in the previous administrations, according to the institute.
___RUBIO: “Under Chris Christie’s governorship of New Jersey, they’ve been downgraded nine times in their credit rating. This country already has a debt problem, we don’t need to add to it by electing someone who has experience at running up and destroying the credit rating of his state.”
CHRISTIE: “Incorrect and incomplete information.”
THE FACTS: Incomplete, perhaps, but Rubio is right that the state’s credit rating has been downgraded nine times since Christie took office, a reflection of concern by the major rating agencies about New Jersey’s fiscal health and pension system. It did not go down nine notches, however. Each of the three major agencies downgraded the state’s rating three times.
___CHRISTIE: “The president and his former secretary of state are for paying ransoms for hostages. When (you) do that, you endanger even more Americans around the world to be the subject of this type of hostage-taking and illegal detention.”
THE FACTS: President Barack Obama said exactly the opposite in June, when the White House reaffirmed its opposition to paying ransom to terrorist groups that hold American citizens hostage.
The president said such payments only serve to endanger more Americans and finance “the very terrorism that we’re trying to stop” - points that Christie actually echoed during the debate.
Though the new White House policy precludes ransom payments by the U.S. government, the Obama administration did leave open the door to communication with hostage-takers - whether by the government, families of victims or third-parties - and said relatives who on their own decide to pay ransom won’t be threatened with prosecution.
___RUBIO on fighting the Islamic State group: “The Kurds are incredible fighters and they will liberate the Kurdish areas, but Kurds cannot and do not want to liberate and hold Sunni villages and towns.”
THE FACTS: The Kurds are overwhelmingly Sunni. Rubio did not distinguish between Sunni Arabs and Sunni Kurds. The areas predominantly held by IS fighters are in Sunni Arab territory. They did infiltrate Kurdish regions in both Iraq and Syria, but it is problematic to paint this picture with a broad sectarian brush.
Associated Press writers Jim Drinkard, Alicia A. Caldwell, Jill Colvin, Eric Tucker and Vivian Salama contributed to this report.
AP: Fact Checking The South Carolina Republican Debate
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Republican presidential debaters misfired in assertions about Supreme Court nominees, Syria, immigration and more.
A look at some of the claims Saturday night and how they compare with the facts:
TED CRUZ: "We have 80 years of precedent of not confirming Supreme Court justices in an election year."
MARCO RUBIO: "It has been over 80 years since a lame-duck president has appointed a Supreme Court justice."
THE FACTS: Cruz is wrong. Rubio is in the ballpark.
Anthony Kennedy was confirmed by the Senate on Feb. 3, 1988, in the final year of Ronald Reagan's presidency, by a 97-0 vote. That was a presidential election year.
Presidents don't appoint justices to the high court; they nominate them for Senate confirmation. Kennedy was nominated in 1987 and confirmed the next year. That makes Rubio closer to correct.
Rubio and other Republicans argued that President Barack Obama, as a lame duck, should not fill the vacancy created by the death of Justice Antonin Scalia but leave it to the next president — which they hope will be one of them.
But the example of Kennedy, who is still on the court, shows that presidents in their last year aren't always powerless in shaping the court — and not shy about trying.
___JEB BUSH: "Russia is not taking out ISIS. They're attacking our team."
DONALD TRUMP: "Jeb is so wrong. You've got to fight ISIS first. ... We've been in the Middle East for 15 years, and we haven't won anything. We've spent $5 trillion in the Middle East."
THE FACTS: Both spoke with too broad a brush. Russia is bombing both the Islamic State group and Western-backed rebels. But the U.S. and its partners say the majority of Russia's strikes haven't targeted IS fighters, and that its most recent offensive near Aleppo is primarily hitting "moderate" opposition forces.
As with most things in Syria, however, the picture is unclear because some of the moderates are fighting alongside other extremist groups, like the al-Qaida-linked Nusra Front.
Trump's figure for total U.S. expenditures in the Middle East, though, appears significantly inflated. In November, Trump cited a $2 trillion figure. That number roughly matches the amount of money the U.S. spent fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq between 2001 and 2015, according to the bipartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget.
___CRUZ on a failed 2013 immigration overhaul: "I stood with (Sen.) Jeff Sessions and (Rep.) Steven King and the American people to defeat that amnesty plan. The question for anyone on illegal immigration is, where were you in that fight?"
RUBIO: "When that issue was being debated, Ted Cruz at a committee hearing very passionately said, 'I want immigration reform to pass, I want people to be able to come out of the shadows.' He proposed an amendment that would have legalized people here. ... So he either wasn't telling the truth then, or he isn't telling the truth now."
THE FACTS: Rubio's account is mostly right. While Cruz has been against an explicit path to citizenship for people in the country illegally, he did introduce legislation in that 2013 bill that proposed eventual legal status for millions of people. He also publicly supported the legislation in the Senate and urged its passing.
He has since said his amendment was designed to help kill the broader bill. The immigration bill co-authored by Rubio failed to pass in the House.
___RUBIO: "Our economy is flat, it's not creating jobs the way it once did."
THE FACTS: While the recovery after the Great Recession has at times been sluggish, in the past two years job creation has been healthy. In 2014, employers added 3 million jobs, the most in 15 years. Job creation slowed to 2.7 million last year — still, the second-most since 1999.
___CRUZ: "The nonpartisan Tax Foundation estimated (my) simple flat tax that would produce 4.9 million new jobs, it would increase capital investment by 44 percent and would lift everyone's income by double digits."
THE FACTS: That's a selective reading of the foundation's analysis, which found that his plan would reduce tax revenues by $3.6 trillion over 10 years, requiring massive spending cuts or hugely increasing federal budget deficits.
The right-leaning group did conclude that the plan would generate more jobs and growth. It assumed that the tax cuts would generate significant additional economic growth and therefore more revenue, an approach that not all economists agree with.
But even taking that potential extra revenue into account, the foundation still concludes Cruz's plan would lower revenue by $768 billion over the next 10 years.
___TRUMP on Bush: "He put so much debt on Florida, and he increased spending so much, as soon as he got out of office, Florida crashed."
THE FACTS: Trump is right that Florida's economy tanked right after Bush left office, but he's wrong about the reasons. The state was clobbered by the housing bubble and bust that eventually dragged the whole country into the worst recession since the 1930s.
The bubble was particularly harsh in the "sun and sand" states of Florida, Arizona, Nevada and California.
Home prices jumped 160 percent in Florida during Bush's tenure from 1999 through 2006 — more than double the national increase of 74 percent —according to real estate data provider Zillow. Construction jobs surged and the boost to home values made many Floridians feel wealthier, leading them to spend more.
But home prices plummeted by half in the five years after Bush left office, according to Zillow data.
___BEN CARSON: "When we have a debt of that nature, it causes the Fed to change their policy. It causes the central bank to keep the rates low, and who does that affect? Mr. Average, who used to go to the bank every Friday and put part of his check in the bank and watch it grow over three decades and be able to retire with a nice nest egg."
THE FACTS: Carson misreads how the Federal Reserve works.
The size of the U.S. government's debt, which is about $19 trillion, does not influence the Federal Reserve's interest rate policies. The Fed seeks to keep unemployment low and inflation at about 2 percent a year.
Former Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke cut the short-term interest rate the Fed controls to nearly zero in December 2008 — before Barack Obama took office — and kept it that way for seven years.
It is true that the policy has significantly lowered the interest rates on bank savings accounts, but many savers have benefited in other ways. The S&P 500 stock market index nearly tripled from March 2009, when the market bottomed during the Great Recession, through the end of 2015.
___Associated Press writers Alicia A. Caldwell and Bradley Klapper contributed to this report.
Copyright 2016 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
AP FACT CHECK: Trump tells it like it was and like it wasn't in taking on George W. Bush over the Iraq War.
By CALVIN WOODWARD, Associated PressWASHINGTON (AP) — Donald Trump delivered a ferocious putdown of George W. Bush from the debate stage, central to his effort to convince voters that they don't want another Bush deciding when to take the country to war. But were his key facts right?
In short, he told it like it was, and like it wasn't, in a multipronged indictment of the ex-president, laid out in front of a livid Jeb Bush, the Republican presidential candidate and former president's younger brother.
A look at some of Trump's claims, other assertions by Republican presidential hopefuls in the debate and how they stack up with the facts:
TRUMP: "I'm the only one on this stage that said: 'Do not go into Iraq. Do not attack Iraq.' Nobody else on this stage said that. And I said it loud and strong."
THE FACTS: No record has been established that Trump issued a clarion call against the March 2003 invasion of Iraq before it happened. In his few unearthed comments before the invasion, he said the economy was a bigger problem than Iraq.
In the first week after the invasion, he told The Washington Post at a post-Oscars party that "the war's a mess" and, "If they keep fighting it the way they did today, they're going to have a real problem." In another venue, he predicted stock market gains. He praised then-President George W. Bush before and after the war started. It was not until 2004 that he took a "loud and clear" line, asserting "all of the reasons for the war were blatantly wrong."
To be sure, he was well ahead of Bush loyalists in making that harsh judgment. But it does not reflect the foresight he claims to have had before the war started and went downhill.
___TRUMP: "They said there were weapons of mass destruction. There were none."
THE FACTS: He is right that no weapons of mass destruction were found — undermining a central rationale for the invasion. Another rationale for the war, that Iraq had close ties with al-Qaida terrorists, also proved bogus.
___TRUMP on trying to kill Osama bin Laden: "George Bush had the chance, also, and he didn't listen to the advice of his CIA."
THE FACTS: It's true that the Bush administration received repeated warnings from the CIA and other elements of the intelligence apparatus that bin Laden's al-Qaida organization was planning to attack in the U.S., and soon. Most famously, a top-secret document prepared by intelligence agencies, in early August 2001, came with the headline: Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.
It's the subject of continuing — perhaps endless — debate whether such warnings were specific enough so that the U.S. could have headed off the attacks of that Sept. 11.
___On other subjects in the debate:
TED CRUZ: "We have 80 years of precedent of not confirming Supreme Court justices in an election year."
MARCO RUBIO: "It has been over 80 years since a lame-duck president has appointed a Supreme Court justice."
THE FACTS: Cruz is wrong. Rubio is in the ballpark.
Anthony Kennedy was confirmed by the Senate on Feb. 3, 1988, in the final year of Ronald Reagan's presidency, by a 97-0 vote. That was a presidential election year.
Presidents don't appoint justices to the high court; they nominate them for Senate confirmation. Kennedy was nominated in 1987 and confirmed the next year. That makes Rubio closer to correct.
Rubio and other Republicans argued that President Barack Obama, as a lame duck, should not fill the vacancy created by the death of Justice Antonin Scalia but leave it to the next president — which they hope will be one of them.
But the example of Kennedy, who is still on the court, shows that presidents in their last year aren't always powerless in shaping the court — and not shy about trying.
___TRUMP: "Iran has taken over Iraq."
THE FACTS: That's an over-the-top conclusion, tapping a real concern that Iran has too much influence.
Iraq is a sovereign nation with its own government, armed forces and right to act independently. Both the U.S. and Iran have great influence over the military struggle against the Islamic State group.
Iranian clout skyrocketed after U.S. troops withdrew in late 2011, but was countered in 2014 when the Islamic State militants destabilized the Iraqi military and took over about a third of the country. Since then, Iranian military advisers have been key in guiding Iraqi ground troops toward victory in cities like Tikrit and Jurf al-Sukhar, and Washington remains worried about the risk of Iran staging a de facto takeover.
___CRUZ on a failed 2013 immigration overhaul: "I stood with (Sen.) Jeff Sessions and (Rep.) Steven King and the American people to defeat that amnesty plan. The question for anyone on illegal immigration is, where were you in that fight?"
RUBIO: "When that issue was being debated, Ted Cruz at a committee hearing very passionately said, 'I want immigration reform to pass, I want people to be able to come out of the shadows.' He proposed an amendment that would have legalized people here. ... So he either wasn't telling the truth then, or he isn't telling the truth now."
THE FACTS: Rubio's account is mostly right. While Cruz has been against an explicit path to citizenship for people in the country illegally, he did introduce legislation in that 2013 bill that proposed eventual legal status for millions of people. He also publicly supported the legislation in the Senate and urged its passing.
He has since said his amendment was designed to help kill the broader bill. The immigration bill co-authored by Rubio failed to pass in the House.
___Associated Press writers Vivian Salama, Sam Hananel, Alicia A. Caldwell and Jill Colvin contributed to this report.
EDITOR'S NOTE _ A look at political claims that take shortcuts with the facts or don't tell the full story
Copyright 2016 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
[Edited on 2/22/2016 by gondicar]

According to pops:
"NY daily news a "far left tabloid" its owned by rupert murdoch, you imbecile."
And the low info voter embarrasses himself yet again.
Even worse, gondicar gathers information from a tabloid and actually believes it.
Whoa...

Whoa...
According to mule: "Ah, The NY Daily News, a far-left tabloid."
Wrong again!!
Whoa indeed.

Whoa...
According to mule: "Ah, The NY Daily News, a far-left tabloid."
Wrong again!!
Whoa indeed.
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What is the matter son, embarrassed quoting a far-left tabloid?
It is no wonder you are so factually challenged.
You should run out and pick up a copy of The National Inquirer. They actually get it right on occasion. It was The National Inquirer that busted John Edwards for banging his whore while his wife was dying of cancer.

Hahahahah!
Here we have audio of the great and powerful Trump asking Mika to throw him softball questions! "Nothing too hard Mika."
What a twit!
Hey Mule... save your "far left" horse $hit for someone who gives a crap. This is audio. Right out of the Donald's mouth.
Newly leaked audio confirms common accusations that the mainstream media is deliberately pandering to and colluding with Donald Trump in their incessant quest for ratings. While it’s been obvious for quite a while now that conservative blowhard Joe Scarborough and his compliant partner, Mika Brzezinski are very fond of Trump and constantly have him on their show to answer softball questions, these new revelations show Trump asking them specifically to “take it easy on him” before last week’s “town hall,” where he was faced with questions about his poll numbers and “why he wants to be President,” instead of any questions about his absurd policy proposals or inability to give substantial details about any of his ideas.
“Do you not want me to do, the um, the ones with, um, deportation?” asks Mika, “We really do have to go to some questions,” adds Joe. “That’s right. Nothing too hard, Mika” responded Trump – to which Mika agrees. No questions about his proposed mass deportations were asked. The audio also reveals this telling exchange:
TRUMP: “I watched your show this morning. You have me almost as a legendary figure, I like that. You, you get great ratings and a raise. Me, I get nothing. This will make us all look good.”

Whoa...
According to mule: "Ah, The NY Daily News, a far-left tabloid."
Wrong again!!
Whoa indeed.
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What is the matter son, embarrassed quoting a far-left tabloid?
It is no wonder you are so factually challenged.
You should run out and pick up a copy of The National Inquirer. They actually get it right on occasion. It was The National Inquirer that busted John Edwards for banging his whore while his wife was dying of cancer.
I've been curious about your constant use of "son." Now it's starting to come together. Since you never go after Dennis Hastert you probably leave your fantasies about him and house pages to your daydreams. Now Hastert is one disgusting dude. He was totally corrupt as well as he had to make his hush money.

Whoa...
According to mule: "Ah, The NY Daily News, a far-left tabloid."
Wrong again!!
Whoa indeed.
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What is the matter son, embarrassed quoting a far-left tabloid?
It is no wonder you are so factually challenged.
You should run out and pick up a copy of The National Inquirer. They actually get it right on occasion. It was The National Inquirer that busted John Edwards for banging his whore while his wife was dying of cancer.
If you had actually clicked on the links, you would have found that Gondicar had gotten them from 3 different sources, none of them a tabloid. Furthermore, they all came from the AP. The AP is a news reporting orginization and does not editorialize.
Everything you read that you disagree with you claim comes from a far left source. You are usually wrong about that. If left leaning sources are no good, then you cannot use right wing sources like Breitbart which you do constantly. Play by the same rules as everyone or don't play.
I corrected pops out of the fact that he made a mistake that is easy to do, not because I think he is an imbecile. Pops doesn't live anywhere near NYC and the two papers can be confused by an outsider.
Last, the correct name is National Enquirer, you imbecile. 😛


After whining constantly about "far left" sources, numbnuts posts a right wing political cartoon.
You can't have it both ways, Mr. Executive.
BTW, has anyone noticed that our resident Mr. Executive spends his entire mornings on this site? His employer is getting ripped off. 😛


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Hey, Trump is doing his thing for diversity!
The eastern Europeans they seek and hire are far more educated and well mannered than those from the streets of Miami.
It is a matter of culture that cannot be taught to the average low skilled workers. At his Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach a standard of service must be maintained and hiring locals simply does not work.
I am sorry if that sounds cold but that is the way it is. Any organization that operates high-end clubs or similar establishments knows to hire workers that will maintain the aura of the business’s reputation.
You cannot have a cocktail waitress to serve drinks who is covered in tattoos and has a bolt through her nose.
You’ll find this same practice in the tech-industry. In Silicon Valley 6 of 10 hires are of Asian descent with work visas because education, discipline and work ethic matters.
This is the real world. It might not sound politically correct but businesses must be successful in order to survive.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/26/us/politics/donald-trump-taps-foreign-work-force-for-his-florida-club.html?_r=0/blockquote >
__________________________________________________________________________Hey, Trump is doing his thing for diversity!
The eastern Europeans they seek and hire are far more educated and well mannered than those from the streets of Miami.
It is a matter of culture that cannot be taught to the average low skilled workers. At his Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach a standard of service must be maintained and hiring locals simply does not work.
I am sorry if that sounds cold but that is the way it is. Any organization that operates high-end clubs or similar establishments knows to hire workers that will maintain the aura of the business’s reputation.
You cannot have a cocktail waitress to serve drinks who is covered in tattoos and has a bolt through her nose.
You’ll find this same practice in the tech-industry. In Silicon Valley 6 of 10 hires are of Asian descent with work visas because education, discipline and work ethic matters.
This is the real world. It might not sound politically correct but businesses must be successful in order to survive.
This does sound very liberal and the argument about Trump generally is that he's not a conservative. This also counters Trump's argument that these kinds of hiring practices are contributing to losses of jobs for Americans.
You cannot have a cocktail waitress to serve drinks who is covered in tattoos and has a bolt through her nose.
You can though work at Whole Foods, which is owned by a conservative, which pays better and has good benefits.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/26/us/politics/donald-trump-taps-foreign-work-force-for-his-florida-club.html?_r=0/blockquote >
__________________________________________________________________________Hey, Trump is doing his thing for diversity!
The eastern Europeans they seek and hire are far more educated and well mannered than those from the streets of Miami.
It is a matter of culture that cannot be taught to the average low skilled workers. At his Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach a standard of service must be maintained and hiring locals simply does not work.
I am sorry if that sounds cold but that is the way it is. Any organization that operates high-end clubs or similar establishments knows to hire workers that will maintain the aura of the business’s reputation.
You cannot have a cocktail waitress to serve drinks who is covered in tattoos and has a bolt through her nose.
You’ll find this same practice in the tech-industry. In Silicon Valley 6 of 10 hires are of Asian descent with work visas because education, discipline and work ethic matters.
This is the real world. It might not sound politically correct but businesses must be successful in order to survive.
LOL I almost think you are being sarcastic 😮
here is a story about some of those people at Mar-A-Lago
[Edited on 2/25/2016 by LeglizHemp]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/26/us/politics/donald-trump-taps-foreign-work-force-for-his-florida-club.html?_r=0/blockquote >
__________________________________________________________________________Hey, Trump is doing his thing for diversity!
The eastern Europeans they seek and hire are far more educated and well mannered than those from the streets of Miami.
It is a matter of culture that cannot be taught to the average low skilled workers. At his Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach a standard of service must be maintained and hiring locals simply does not work.
I am sorry if that sounds cold but that is the way it is. Any organization that operates high-end clubs or similar establishments knows to hire workers that will maintain the aura of the business’s reputation.
You cannot have a cocktail waitress to serve drinks who is covered in tattoos and has a bolt through her nose.
You’ll find this same practice in the tech-industry. In Silicon Valley 6 of 10 hires are of Asian descent with work visas because education, discipline and work ethic matters.
This is the real world. It might not sound politically correct but businesses must be successful in order to survive.
This does sound very liberal and the argument about Trump generally is that he's not a conservative. This also counters Trump's argument that these kinds of hiring practices are contributing to losses of jobs for Americans.
You cannot have a cocktail waitress to serve drinks who is covered in tattoos and has a bolt through her nose.
You can though work at Whole Foods, which is owned by a conservative, which pays better and has good benefits.
_________________________________________________________________________
It is not a political matter, it is reality.
By far, the major factor in job losses for Americans is the economic policy failures of the Obama administration and by the over-regulation of business by Obama and the world’s highest corporate tax rates which drives companies out of the U.S.
Yes, you can work at Whole Paycheck but your paycheck will prohibit you from shopping there. You won’t be able to pay your rent either.
The professional world is far different from the fast-food and retail misery that Obama has forced so many Americans into; part-time and low wage.
BTW - while Whole Foods does offer good benefits fewer that 10% of their employees are eligible for those benefits and most are suffering with the low-grade Obamacare.

It seems as though Trump will cruise right into the White House with ease. I don't see how Bernie or Hillary can stand a chance. Scary. I said it on here the same time he made the comments about Mexicans that he will be President, and I still bet my bottom dollar he is our next President for 8 years. America's dysfunctional and angry population will win and satisfy their revenge on the liberals who made them suffer through Obama. They know Trump is not good for the country, but they will come out in droves to vote him in to give a big middle finger to the world.

This is new news that you are communicating. Trump is the purest conservative on :
1. Jobs
2. Economy
3. Immigration
4. Military
He cant do any worse than the Obama years.

It seems as though Trump will cruise right into the White House with ease. I don't see how Bernie or Hillary can stand a chance. Scary. I said it on here the same time he made the comments about Mexicans that he will be President, and I still bet my bottom dollar he is our next President for 8 years. America's dysfunctional and angry population will win and satisfy their revenge on the liberals who made them suffer through Obama. They know Trump is not good for the country, but they will come out in droves to vote him in to give a big middle finger to the world.
Not sure if he'll win or not, but he seems to be made of Teflon. Rips students off at his "University" and nobody cares. Being an open racist, and people call it "being honest." The same people who say Obama has caused the US to lose respect on the international stage don't seem to notice that the world thinks Trump is a joke (other than his buddy Putin). I don't get it at all. The scary thing is that I'd still prefer him over Cruz.
Will he beat Hillary? Not sure. People who like Trump seem to like him a lot and will come out and vote for him. I think there are more people who hate Trump than like him and will vote for anyone else. Energized supporters are more likely to come out to vote than the haters, but I'm not sure he has enough supporters to overcome the greater number of haters.

I think there are more people who hate Trump than like him and will vote for anyone else. Energized supporters are more likely to come out to vote than the haters, but I'm not sure he has enough supporters to overcome the greater number of haters.
God I hope you are right.

Was that a real debate tonight, or a Saturday Night Live skit? Good grief.

Was that a real debate tonight, or a Saturday Night Live skit? Good grief.
This settles it...it was SNL:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/25/politics/best-quotes-republican-debate-houston/index.html

Christie Endorses Donald Trump Today:
Calls Marco Rubio "Desperate"
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/02/26/chris-christie-endorses-donald-trump/?_r=0
After watching yesterday, it sure looked like that to me. Rubio should consider stand-up. He does deliver a one-liner well.

That debate last night was gold.
I haven't watched something as entertaining as that outside of a football game maybe ever! I looked forward to it all week and it well surpassed any expectations I might've had. Belly laughing, face in hands, forehead slapping...I loved it!

"I'll tell you what, I think the media is among the most dishonest groups of people I've ever met. They're terrible. The New York Times, which is losing a fortune, which is a failing newspaper, which probably won't be around that much longer, but probably somebody will buy it as a trophy, keep it going for a little longer. But I think The New York Times is one of the most dishonest media outlets I've ever seen in my life. The worst, the worst. The absolute worst. They have an agenda that you wouldn't believe. And they're run by incompetent people. They are totally incompetently run. Washington Post, I have to tell you, I have respect for Jeff Bezos, but he bought The Washington Post to have political influence and I got to tell you, we have a different country than we used to have. We have a different -- He owns Amazon. He wants political influence so that Amazon will benefit from it. That's not right. And believe me, if I become president, oh, do they have problems. They're going to have such problems. And one of the things I'm going to do, and this is only going to make it tougher for me, and I've never said this before, but one of the things I'm going to do if I win -- and I hope I do and we're certainly leading -- is I'm going to open up our libel laws so when they write purposely negative and horrible and false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money. We're going to open up those libel laws. So that when The New York Times writes a hit piece, which is a total disgrace, or when the Washington Post, which is there for other reasons, writes a hit piece, we can sue them and win money instead of having no chance of winning because they're totally protected. You see, with me, they're not protected because I'm not like other people but I'm not taking money. I'm not taking their money. So we're going to open up those libel laws folks and we're going to have people sue you like you never got sued before. We have many things to do. We have many, many things to do." -Donald Trump, 2/26/16


"I'll tell you what, I think the media is among the most dishonest groups of people I've ever met. They're terrible. The New York Times, which is losing a fortune, which is a failing newspaper, which probably won't be around that much longer, but probably somebody will buy it as a trophy, keep it going for a little longer. But I think The New York Times is one of the most dishonest media outlets I've ever seen in my life. The worst, the worst. The absolute worst. They have an agenda that you wouldn't believe. And they're run by incompetent people. They are totally incompetently run. Washington Post, I have to tell you, I have respect for Jeff Bezos, but he bought The Washington Post to have political influence and I got to tell you, we have a different country than we used to have. We have a different -- He owns Amazon. He wants political influence so that Amazon will benefit from it. That's not right. And believe me, if I become president, oh, do they have problems. They're going to have such problems. And one of the things I'm going to do, and this is only going to make it tougher for me, and I've never said this before, but one of the things I'm going to do if I win -- and I hope I do and we're certainly leading -- is I'm going to open up our libel laws so when they write purposely negative and horrible and false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money. We're going to open up those libel laws. So that when The New York Times writes a hit piece, which is a total disgrace, or when the Washington Post, which is there for other reasons, writes a hit piece, we can sue them and win money instead of having no chance of winning because they're totally protected. You see, with me, they're not protected because I'm not like other people but I'm not taking money. I'm not taking their money. So we're going to open up those libel laws folks and we're going to have people sue you like you never got sued before. We have many things to do. We have many, many things to do." -Donald Trump, 2/26/16
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I wonder if it will be retroactive so Obama can sue him over the whole birther crap?

I think the hot trophy wives should count for something.

"I'll tell you what, I think the media is among the most dishonest groups of people I've ever met. They're terrible. The New York Times, which is losing a fortune, which is a failing newspaper, which probably won't be around that much longer, but probably somebody will buy it as a trophy, keep it going for a little longer. But I think The New York Times is one of the most dishonest media outlets I've ever seen in my life. The worst, the worst. The absolute worst. They have an agenda that you wouldn't believe. And they're run by incompetent people. They are totally incompetently run. Washington Post, I have to tell you, I have respect for Jeff Bezos, but he bought The Washington Post to have political influence and I got to tell you, we have a different country than we used to have. We have a different -- He owns Amazon. He wants political influence so that Amazon will benefit from it. That's not right. And believe me, if I become president, oh, do they have problems. They're going to have such problems. And one of the things I'm going to do, and this is only going to make it tougher for me, and I've never said this before, but one of the things I'm going to do if I win -- and I hope I do and we're certainly leading -- is I'm going to open up our libel laws so when they write purposely negative and horrible and false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money. We're going to open up those libel laws. So that when The New York Times writes a hit piece, which is a total disgrace, or when the Washington Post, which is there for other reasons, writes a hit piece, we can sue them and win money instead of having no chance of winning because they're totally protected. You see, with me, they're not protected because I'm not like other people but I'm not taking money. I'm not taking their money. So we're going to open up those libel laws folks and we're going to have people sue you like you never got sued before. We have many things to do. We have many, many things to do." -Donald Trump, 2/26/16
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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."
I guess The Donald wants to skip right over the 1st Amendment.
[Edited on 2/26/2016 by gondicar]

One group of lobbyists will love Trump....lawyers!
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