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MartinD28
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I wonder if any recounts are in the future.

If they have paper ballots why do they need anything more?

Between foreign interference, corruption, and just plain incompetence, I'm surprised anyone goes to the polls at all.

In one of the articles I read about the situation, I was directed to a Twitter accounts for some Dems. The big repeated was about the DNC was "manually changing votes from Bernie to Biden".

And exactly who is the source of this article? and obviously it didn't work out so well did it since Pete seems to be Iowa's choice and Biden is currently 4th...Why do you fall for conspiracy theories and why do so many republicans do the same. Maybe that was what was in HC emails all along the 2020 dem Iowa caucus results

The GOP House & Senators are still peddling the Ukraine interference that Putin advanced & parroted by Trump even though our intel community / agencies have dispelled that. Wonder why they keep peddling conspiracies already proven wrong? No doubt these Congressmen are true American patriots.


 
Posted : February 5, 2020 8:21 am
MartinD28
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The HR oversight committees will continue their duties, but they're toothless now.

Except in possibly impacting votes for November, and even that is doubtful if one's head is stuck in the sand. Facts & first hand accounts no longer matter.


 
Posted : February 5, 2020 8:25 am
cyclone88
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Facts & first hand accounts no longer matter.

From now through November, lies & buffoonery will be SOP along w/a little help from Russia.


 
Posted : February 5, 2020 10:24 am
cyclone88
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Acquitted and emboldened.


 
Posted : February 5, 2020 1:00 pm
Bhawk
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Thank God this stupid fecking idea to begin with is over.


 
Posted : February 5, 2020 1:42 pm
playallnite
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It is a stain that will foreverrrrrrr be with him, and Donny, who fears humiliation and being laughed at more than anything


 
Posted : February 5, 2020 3:56 pm
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What a day. I dont know anyone in modern history who could survive an FBI/CIA covert operation, a Russia-hoax, a hostile-media,
and an Impeachment and still carry on with running the country and not having a nervous breakdown.

[Edited on 2/6/2020 by OriginalGoober]


 
Posted : February 5, 2020 4:30 pm
Jerry
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Folks, the impeachment process is over. He was voted not guilty and that is it.
As the rest of the nation was told by the Obama worshipers, get over it, move on, and get a life.

If you want to keep repeating vile remarks about the president, go start a new thread so others don't have to read trash anymore.

It is getting like you are acting like little school yard kids that neither will end the argument and want to be the last one to throw an insult.

I think I'll just go ahead and start the thread for you.


 
Posted : February 5, 2020 8:07 pm
adhill58
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...not having a nervous breakdown.

Goober, have you seen him speak? I am not so sure.


 
Posted : February 6, 2020 4:54 am
PattyG
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Folks, the impeachment process is over. He was voted not guilty and that is it.
As the rest of the nation was told by the Obama worshipers, get over it, move on, and get a life.

If you want to keep repeating vile remarks about the president, go start a new thread so others don't have to read trash anymore.

It is getting like you are acting like little school yard kids that neither will end the argument and want to be the last one to throw an insult.

I think I'll just go ahead and start the thread for you.

But creating your little thread is not considered insulting? Get over it! FYI, this is Mulvaney Speak! 😛

[Edited on 2/6/2020 by PattyG]


 
Posted : February 6, 2020 8:51 am
Chain
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What a day. I dont know anyone in modern history who could survive an FBI/CIA covert operation, a Russia-hoax, a hostile-media,
and an Impeachment and still carry on with running the country and not having a nervous breakdown.

[Edited on 2/6/2020 by OriginalGoober]

That would be true except that Mitch McConnell made clear the moment the House passed the articles of Impeachment that those very same articles were as dead on arrival in the Senate as pretty much every bill the House had passed and sent to the Senate since 2018.

Anyone with half a brain knew the Senate would never remove Trump. But as predicted Trump made the very same proclamation you typed above and you bit it hook, line and sinker. You're either the biggest sucker in the world or a bot simply repeating the con line from dear leader.


 
Posted : February 6, 2020 12:57 pm
Stephen
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“What did the president know, and when did he know it”
Sen Howard Baker (R-Tennessee) set the tone for the summer 1973 Watergate hearings by asking that question
& it resulted in Nixon’s ouster

To gain the same result moving forward, Democrats should take that approach in developing ways to impeach Trump - Indian wisdom holds that you can always learn from the enemy, in this case the Republicans

Baker was a fine American - ran for president in 1980 but the bids of both he & Senate colleague Ted Kennedy proved to be short
Was Reagan’s chief of staff for part of Dutch’s second term

Like another senator, Barry Goldwater (R-Arizona), was an widely respected, published photographer

But on topic, my advice to the democrats would be, people have had enough of impeachment, For Now -
let’s try the election-process approach this year
Then, if he’s re-elected, return to impeachment efforts using the template set by Baker

Nixon was ousted in his second term by that approach, but maybe it wouldn’t be necessary with success now at the polls

Finally, why not make that their motto/slogan/mantra/MO for the 2020 Democratic campaign & candidate - “Success Now” - people are already burned out on the negativism, this would be a new approach - the last one didn’t work

[Edited on 2/16/2020 by Stephen]


 
Posted : February 16, 2020 2:57 am
cyclone88
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But on topic, my advice to the democrats would be, people have had enough of impeachment, For Now - let’s try the election-process approach this year.

I think it's time to close the topic (& thread) of impeachment. It's not a process used lightly - it's reserved for abuses so egregious that there is danger to allowing the Exec to stay in office. The HR held hearings & had an airtight case that the Exec had invited a foreign government to investigate one of his political rivals for his personal advantage & used strong arm tactics to get them to do so. When they refused, he used the power of his office to strike fear in those subpoened to testify & ordered documents not to be produced. The trial verdict was he did it but we're not going to remove him from office. This acquittal has prompted retaliation & an even more righteous sense that the Exec answers to no one. Sure, Barr has agreed to testify to the HR Judiciary Committee after being called months ago but there's no reason to believe his testimony will be truthful or useful to a toothless congressional committee.

Nixon's WH counsel John Dean said under the 2020 wild defense theory, impeachment wouldn't even been a consideration for Nixon. That was a long time ago when senators and Execs acted w/a sense of respect for the process & reason. Nixon was a man capable of feeling long disappeared notions such as honor, humiliation, and decorum & chose resignation over impeachment. DJT isn't capable of that.

There's no doubt who Trump is, who he aspires to be & how far he'll go to get what he wants. He has successfully turned ideas about government & the constitution on their heads. Voters aren't going to the polls in 2020 blinded by his celebrity, empty promises, fraudulent persona, ignorance of his autocratic tactics, or searing hatred for his rival. If voters choose a man who is mentally unstable, personally corrupt, & dangerous to the US & its allies, it's on them.


 
Posted : February 16, 2020 4:31 am
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