The Inevitable Response Following Impeachment
Some months ago, I mentioned here that the efforts by House D's to impeach were ill advised. That was before the whole set of shame witnesses based their testimony on their opinions instead of anything factually substantial. Before that nice old guy Mueller got rolled out to take the Dem's heat, only to expose his failings, and leave his last public act one of shame instead of success.
So now, in the first Gallup poll of congressional approval since the impeachment farce, the GOP has risen past the Dem's...
GOP approval rises, Democrats fall post-impeachment in Gallup poll
A new Gallup poll finds congressional Republicans with a higher approval rating than Democrats in the wake of President Trump's impeachment and acquittal in the Senate.
Republicans get a 40 percent approval rating, compared to 35 percent for Democrats.
The Gallup poll found that since October, shortly after Democrats launched the impeachment inquiry, the approval rating for Republicans in the Gallup poll has gone up 6 points, from 34 percent to 40 percent. Democrats saw their approval rating fall over the same period from 38 percent to 35 percent.
The disapproval rating in the Gallup poll for Democrats rose from 57 percent to 62 percent.
The findings are also significant — since Gallup began polling of lawmakers in 1999, Democrats have tended to have a higher approval rating than Republicans.
Gallup wrote that the approval rating for Republicans has largely gone up because Republican and Republican-leaning respondents are giving them higher marks for their work.
Gallup also found that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) had a 33 percent approval rating, the highest number he has achieved since the pollster started rating him in 2010. McConnell's figures largely rose on the strength of Republicans, perhaps because they favored his handling of the impeachment fight. His rating among Republicans and Republican-leaning respondents rose 15 points.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's (D-Calif.) approval number remained roughly the same at 39 percent, though her unfavorable rating rose from 50 percent in October to 55 percent now.
The Gallup poll was conducted Feb. 17–28 with a random sample of 1,020 adults living throughout the U.S. and was compared to data collected in October. The poll has a margin of error of 4 percentage points and a 95 percent confidence level.
The House impeachment inquiry began in late September and went on into December, when the articles of impeachment were sent to the Senate.
After a nearly three-week trial in the Senate, Trump was acquitted on both charges almost entirely along partisan lines.
Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah), the sole Republican who voted to convict Trump on one impeachment charge, found his general approval ratings remain the same, largely due to higher approval from Democrats surveyed and an equal dip in approval from Republicans.
More Democrats give Romney a favorable rating than do Republicans in the Gallup survey.
Which of the following are you calling "shame witnesses" and why? Please be explicit.
"The witnesses included Marie Yovanovitch, the former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine; Bill Taylor, who replaced Yovanovich as top diplomat in Ukraine this spring; George Kent, a senior State Department official; Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, a National Security Council aide who worked on Ukraine; Jennifer Williams, an adviser to Vice President Mike Pence; Kurt Volker, former special U.S. envoy on Ukraine; Laura Cooper, a Defense Department official; David Hale, another State Department official; Fiona Hill, former director for Europe and Russia at the NSC; Tim Morrison, outgoing senior director for Europe and Russia; David Holmes, a U.S. diplomat in Ukraine; and EU Ambassador Gordon Sondland."
You think that poll is enough to flip the HOR? You saw what happened in the midterms. Do you think you're going to see a reversal now?
Of the witnesses, none provided real proof. It was all hearsay, and their opinion of what should have been the correct course of action. Well, the voters didn't get to choose them to decide that course. The President does that. It seemed like most were chafing at the fact that a new President wanted something different. Too bad. But Sondland was the real key to unraveling the bs when he said that Trump told him he wanted "nothing" from the Ukrainians. I give him credit for being honest, though that call was probably recorded somewhere.
The insane histrionics put on by the Dem "prosecutors" during the Senate trial was beyond belief. Schiff, et al, going on and on about how our support for the brave little Ukrainians was the key to holding back the Russian scourge, while the President fiddled with his personal vendetta. Where were these clowns just a few years ago when the past President would only send blankets and band aids to the Ukraine? Trump has ok'd serious anti-tank Javelin missiles and sniper systems. Bu..bu..but he's Putin's stooge, so why is he approving the sale of lethal weapons to Russia's enemy? More horse dumpings....
As to flipping the House, I dunno. Trump's numbers in unopposed primaries are far outpacing Republican turnout in past cycles. So if the energy keeps up, they might pull it off.
The cult is strong among the red hats, but he has had record disappoval ratings throughout his presidency, and hasn't been above 50% approval since his first few months. So say what you will, but most Americans dislike Trump.
Of the witnesses, none provided real proof. It was all hearsay, and their opinion of what should have been the correct course of action.
Take a look at the testimony. Listen to the words of a career military hero, Colonel Vindman. Listen to the testimony of David Holmes.
I suspect that you don't believe any of charges that were brought against Trump were valid and had basis & that he wasn't acting and using gov't power and a personal attorney intertwined with gov't officials for his personal political protections and not acting on the best interests of the USA. So the easy thing to to do is dismiss witness testimony and discredit.
If Trump is so innocent and transparent as he claims, explain why he wouldn't let his inner circle (example - Mulvaney & Pompeo) testify.
Of the witnesses, none provided real proof.
The insane histrionics put on by the Dem "prosecutors" during the Senate trial was beyond belief.
Why is this even a topic? The impeachment trial concluded w/o any witnesses so the only record of facts was under-oath testimony in HOR hearings & documents. Other subpoened witnesses were ordered by the defendant not to appear & testify "or else." The only other time I've seen that happen is mob trials when the don or one of his sons was on trial. There was sufficient "real proof" that some GOP senators said "he did it, but it's not worth tossing him out of office" & 1 GOP senator had the guts to vote against the McConnell machine.
"Insane histrionics." That's an interesting term for a dignified quietly laying out of the facts. Repetitious. Sure. Standard trial tactic. Given that they had no witnesses, the house managers presented what OBJECTIVE legal scholars deem to be an almost perfect summary of the facts. The only "insane histrionics" were from the defense - specifically Alan Dershowitz who literally made up quotes from the constitution & spewed legal arguments that were, indeed, deemed "insane" by legal scholars. Even the defense was embarrassed & didn't allow him in the chamber much less sit at their table the next day.
Trump was not removed from office nor was he expected to be. Some thought he'd at least learn a lesson in deportment & decorum, but instead he's been emboldened. He's been free to fire & lie & denigrate women SCOTUS justices & spin the truth.
Now there's something bigger than Congress that's going to be his biggest foe. COVID19 can't be gaslighted. It can't be spun. McConnell can't control it through strong arm tactics. It's here. It's up to 1000 cases from the original 14 that DJT "liked." Travel has been curtailed & that scares Trump. Who's going to fill up those hotel rooms that bear his brand? He can sputter & deflect & lie, but COVID19 is impervious to that.
It's being discussed, and witnesses are being discredited, out of sheer guilt and shame about who they chose to run this country. The realization is settling in, so they are coming up with their defense and attack methods.
I guess just admitting a mistake would be too hard.
Now there's something bigger than Congress that's going to be his biggest foe. COVID19 can't be gaslighted. It can't be spun. McConnell can't control it through strong arm tactics. It's here. It's up to 1000 cases from the original 14 that DJT "liked." Travel has been curtailed & that scares Trump. Who's going to fill up those hotel rooms that bear his brand? He can sputter & deflect & lie, but COVID19 is impervious to that.
Is there no end to the depths of lunacy to which the Democratic Party will go? Nothing else has worked, so let's try PANIC and get the media to blow this "Pandemic" so far out of proportion that people will react just like they do in the Movies!
Holy sh^t, will someone please explain the need for the rush to buy pallets of toilet paper?
So say what you will, but most Americans dislike Trump.
So, I guess the question would be: "Do they like Biden better"?
We shall see
Now there's something bigger than Congress that's going to be his biggest foe. COVID19 can't be gaslighted. It can't be spun. McConnell can't control it through strong arm tactics. It's here. It's up to 1000 cases from the original 14 that DJT "liked." Travel has been curtailed & that scares Trump. Who's going to fill up those hotel rooms that bear his brand? He can sputter & deflect & lie, but COVID19 is impervious to that.
Is there no end to the depths of lunacy to which the Democratic Party will go? Nothing else has worked, so let's try PANIC and get the media to blow this "Pandemic" so far out of proportion that people will react just like they do in the Movies!
Holy sh^t, will someone please explain the need for the rush to buy pallets of toilet paper?
It’s really amazing that the Democrats have coordinated the WHO and the governments of China and Italy in their pocket to make your boy look bad.
What’s really really amazing is that the Democrats have gotten thousands of people in foreign countries to agree to die to make your boy look bad.
Truly amazing.
Now there's something bigger than Congress that's going to be his biggest foe. COVID19 can't be gaslighted. It can't be spun. McConnell can't control it through strong arm tactics. It's here. It's up to 1000 cases from the original 14 that DJT "liked." Travel has been curtailed & that scares Trump. Who's going to fill up those hotel rooms that bear his brand? He can sputter & deflect & lie, but COVID19 is impervious to that.
Is there no end to the depths of lunacy to which the Democratic Party will go? Nothing else has worked, so let's try PANIC and get the media to blow this "Pandemic" so far out of proportion that people will react just like they do in the Movies!
Holy sh^t, will someone please explain the need for the rush to buy pallets of toilet paper?
It’s really amazing that the Democrats have coordinated the WHO and the governments of China and Italy in their pocket to make your boy look bad.
What’s really really amazing is that the Democrats have gotten thousands of people in foreign countries to agree to die to make your boy look bad.
Truly amazing.
It is wild how EVERYTHING in the world is a plot against right-wingers.
I saw a clip on TV from outside Trump's rally in North Carolina last Monday. It featured a reporter talking to a woman waiting in the parking lot and went like this:
Woman: "I don't believe it's real."
Reporter: "You don't believe what's real? Coronavirus?"
Woman: "I don't believe it's real."
Reporter: "What about the reports of two deaths in Washington state?"
Woman: "I don't believe anything the Democrats do."
Democrats staging the COVID-19 panic? Hands down the most ridiculous and paranoid idea ever posted in WP. It will be tragicomic to watch the Redhats rasping out cries of "fake news" from their oxygen tents between coughing fits.
Not staged, not at all. But they ARE playing it up in another desperate hope of political gain which will once again bite them on the backside.
Democrats staging the COVID-19 panic? Hands down the most ridiculous and paranoid idea ever posted in WP. It will be tragicomic to watch the Redhats rasping out cries of "fake news" from their oxygen tents between coughing fits.
Not staged, not at all. But they ARE playing it up in another desperate hope of political gain which will once again bite them on the backside.
Give one example.
It’s really amazing that the Democrats have coordinated the WHO and the governments of China and Italy in their pocket to make your boy look bad.
Disagree, But I do feel the media is behind this paranoia and I also believe a good percentage the media is influenced by the left
What’s really really amazing is that the Democrats have gotten thousands of people in foreign countries to agree to die to make your boy look bad.
"Your boy" LOL. Once again, I have done nothing but express disdain for the ideals the Democratic Party is championing. If in your eyes, merely disliking one point of view is seen as support for another, well that is on you my friend.
And with impeachment being the latest fail in a pathetic attempt to unseat the President (and actually come to grips with the reality that he indeed was elected) one might think the powers that be could surely find a more suitable Candidate than a plagiarising, old man who can't remember where he is, what office he is running for and the accuracy of his past accomplishments.
Now there's something bigger than Congress that's going to be his biggest foe. COVID19 can't be gaslighted. It can't be spun. McConnell can't control it through strong arm tactics. It's here. It's up to 1000 cases from the original 14 that DJT "liked." Travel has been curtailed & that scares Trump. Who's going to fill up those hotel rooms that bear his brand? He can sputter & deflect & lie, but COVID19 is impervious to that.
Is there no end to the depths of lunacy to which the Democratic Party will go? Nothing else has worked, so let's try PANIC and get the media to blow this "Pandemic" so far out of proportion that people will react just like they do in the Movies!
Holy sh^t, will someone please explain the need for the rush to buy pallets of toilet paper?
It’s really amazing that the Democrats have coordinated the WHO and the governments of China and Italy in their pocket to make your boy look bad.
What’s really really amazing is that the Democrats have gotten thousands of people in foreign countries to agree to die to make your boy look bad.
Truly amazing.
It is wild how EVERYTHING in the world is a plot against right-wingers.
I saw a clip on TV from outside Trump's rally in North Carolina last Monday. It featured a reporter talking to a woman waiting in the parking lot and went like this:
Woman: "I don't believe it's real."
Reporter: "You don't believe what's real? Coronavirus?"
Woman: "I don't believe it's real."
Reporter: "What about the reports of two deaths in Washington state?"
Woman: "I don't believe anything the Democrats do."
I saw that interview too. She should have shown her diploma form Trump University.
It's f'ing amazing how ignorant some people really are. It will take a person like that getting this disease before reality smacks her in the face. And just so the right wingers don't parse words - No, I'm not wishing that upon her.
It's f'ing amazing how ignorant some people really are. It will take a person like that getting this disease before reality smacks her in the face.
Natural selection at work. Only a matter of time now.
Good point, Brer. Wonder what Darwin would think of the electorate? 😛
So far all I have heard on the news is the latest on COVID-19 progress. I don't watch cable but pretty much get the same info flow as everyone else. I would be interested to hear where you all are getting all this Democrat COVID-19 hype from.
From the man himself. On 2/28 in Charleston SC he called it a "democratic hoax" & their "single talking point."
“They have no clue, they can't even count their votes in Iowa. Democrats will always say horrible things. Democrats want us to fail so badly.”
He went on to tout how "magnificently organized" his administration was & returned to his old favorite - The Wall that would've made the US secure.
"My administration has taken the most aggressive acts in history to prevent the spread in the United States. We must understand that border security is also health security,” Trump added, as rallygoers chanted “build the wall.” “The Democrat policy of open borders is a direct threat to the health and wellbeing of all Americans.”
It was on 3 sites of media coverage for his rally before the dem primary in SC, including NBC.
". . . border security is also health security,”
Looks like alarmist fearmongering to me.
Like I said COVID-19 is at my doorstep, folks are staying cool, it will pass. Oregon is a blue state, we aren't freaking out over this at all. I will leave the left wing media paranoia concerns to those who get off on that kind of thing - we have an epidemic to manage here.
Trumps working on a vaccine, and China's going to pay for it.
". . . border security is also health security,”
Looks like alarmist fearmongering to me.
Like I said COVID-19 is at my doorstep, folks are staying cool, it will pass. Oregon is a blue state, we aren't freaking out over this at all. I will leave the left wing media paranoia concerns to those who get off on that kind of thing - we have an epidemic to manage here.
Trumps working on a vaccine, and China's going to pay for it.
Isn’t Pence in charge of the administration’s coronavirus study? Thought I read/heard that somewhere
NBA season on hold, NCAA tournament hanging by a thread, WC ski season cancelled, also a premier traditional tennis tournament in Indian Wells, Calif. - hopes are for the Boston Marathon to be run
....but all this at a cost of countless millions of dollars, esp, article said, to the town of Indian Wells
- how will candidates be able to campaign for votes when gatherings of 1,000 or more people are being disallowed - sanitary-hand wipe dispensers would have to be set up everywhere, some would be wearing protective face masks etc & on
Yep both medically and financially, coronavirus is kicking-butt mean & nasty, & in more ways than just those 2 areas - yet to panic would be to succumb to it, so hopefully measures being taken, tho harsh, prove out & it passes
“The poison is spreading, the demon is free
“The people are running from what they can’t even see”
Love that Dan Fogelburg song Face The Fire, & the guitar solo is so bad smoke comes outta my speakers
[Edited on 3/12/2020 by Stephen]
Elderly matronly storekeeper taps her finger on her temple - & says “up here Lucas - that’s where the real danger is”
This was during the turn of the century (20th) when yellow fever had people scared
As concerning as the numbers are, imho there’s an element of that too now -
It is what it is, someone once said & again all karma 1st & 4most that a vaccine/remedy/cure can be developed
[Edited on 3/12/2020 by Stephen]
Another thing I have been thinking about:
If you don't want a POTUS from your party to be impeached, don't nominate someone with a known proclivity for bending/breaking laws/rules and a disregard for the standards to which previous presidents have adhered.
If you don't want a POTUS from your party to be impeached, don't nominate someone with a known proclivity for bending/breaking laws/rules and a disregard for the standards to which previous presidents have adhered.
As for impeachment, the advice would also be don't elect senators who are so beholden to, cowardly, or intimated by the WH threats that they march in lockstep w/the Majority Leader.
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