Bhawk, you are right. It's tough to debate when you start from one angle, and then it gets dumbed down after every response.
Bhawk, you are right. It's tough to debate when you start from one angle, and then it gets dumbed down after every response.
Whatever.
I am in my fifties, never been arrested, never been accosted by the police. Been pulled over for traffic infractions more times than I can count, expired tags, no seat belt, speeding. I have been at the scene of parties that have gotten out of hand where the police have been called, been witness to bar fights, hassles at stadiums, concerts and what have you. I repeat, never spent a minute in Jail. My secret?.... When a Policeman asks me to do something?
I comply, immediately.
You don't argue with him and tell him he is wrong? I am shocked. 😉
Haha...Just about everyone else though!
"If a cop asks you to leave, keep your mouth shut and get out of there!"
How nice. Just as our Founding Fathers hoped.
F the blacks and Muslims. They don't apply to our value system. Got it.
Value system?...please. How about understanding English and the consequences of your chosen response?
Indeed. The OP only has the word "racial" in it twice.
Indeed. The OP only has the word "racial" in it twice.
Pretty sure he was talking about comments on the McKinney Massacre. The OP was written days before that even occurred.
"If a cop asks you to leave, keep your mouth shut and get out of there!"
How nice. Just as our Founding Fathers hoped.
F the blacks and Muslims. They don't apply to our value system. Got it.
Value system?...please. How about understanding English and the consequences of your chosen response?
Hello.
Indeed. The OP only has the word "racial" in it twice.
The OP is irrelevant at this point. Topics shift. Nobody is talking about Ferguson, or race. Except BB.
I thought you took your ball and went home.
I'm still here, just don't choose to get worked up about useless interactions as much as I used to. Utterly pointless. Had a slip-up earlier, I'll try harder.
Man, you sound familiar. You come around before 2012? I could be wrong, though, that happens a lot.
Indeed. The OP only has the word "racial" in it twice.
Pretty sure he was talking about comments on the McKinney Massacre. The OP was written days before that even occurred.
Hey man, I'm all low-info melodramatic. Hard to keep this stuff straight. Good thing there's a smart guy like you around to keep things on the correct path.
Indeed. The OP only has the word "racial" in it twice.
The OP is irrelevant at this point. Topics shift. Nobody is talking about Ferguson, or race. Except BB.
I thought you took your ball and went home.
I'm still here, just don't choose to get worked up about useless interactions as much as I used to. Utterly pointless. Had a slip-up earlier, I'll try harder.
Man, you sound familiar. You come around before 2012? I could be wrong, though, that happens a lot.
Still here but you're just trying to score cheapshots now. Anyhow...
You certainly do work hard on keeping score, good job!
So I guess all you folks who think the out of work cop was right also think gunning those kids down at Kent State was appropriate. They should have just picked up their flowers and protest signs and gone to class.
And I'm sure you think it was OK that those kids at Jackson State were gunned down.
And out come the straw horses. Never would have guessed.
Low-info melodrama! You nailed it!
I know Police officers have a really hard job. I admire and applaud their service. The work really hard for little money in a job they choose. They were trained for that job and that training and their paycheck makes them professionals. They need to act accordingly.
The last twenty years has brought major changes to our police programs. I don't think anyone here will deny that our Citizens On Patrol (COPs) have been, and continue to be more militarized.
I'm personally not OK with these changes.
The militarization of our police departments makes me think it is more important that individual police officers act with professionalism. Sometimes that means showing some restraint.
I agree with the good parents who would discipline their children for their outrageous behavior. I don't believe that any of you would be OK with your teen age daughter being slammed to the ground.
I know Police officers have a really hard job. I admire and applaud their service. The work really hard for little money in a job they choose. They were trained for that job and that training and their paycheck makes them professionals. They need to act accordingly.
The last twenty years has brought major changes to our police programs. I don't think anyone here will deny that our Citizens On Patrol (COPs) have been, and continue to be more militarized.
I'm personally not OK with these changes.
The militarization of our police departments makes me think it is more important that individual police officers act with professionalism. Sometimes that means showing some restraint.
I agree with the good parents who would discipline their children for their outrageous behavior. I don't believe that any of you would be OK with your teen age daughter being slammed to the ground.
Believe what you want. I told you exactly what I would do with my kids in a previous post. Police officers have had to increase their firepower and capability to respond to the increases in firepower and capability on the street. It does no good to take a snub nosed revolver to an Uzi fight. Equating Kent State and Jackson State to McKinney is ludicrous.
Value system?...please. How about understanding English and the consequences of your chosen response?
The same could be said about cops understanding the law, and the consequences of THEIR actions. Works both ways....just depends on what perspective you have.
The kids were surely wrong for not listening...but they are kids, which is why cops should be expected to be the responsible one. And for the cop that got fired, did you see his barrell roll for no reason whatsoever? He was out of control from the outset, according to his boss, and remained out of control throughout, according to his boss, and is seen doing a military-style, completely unnecessary barrell-roll. Could that one particular cop have gotten to excited and do something wrong too? Could there possible be 2 wrongs???? Some here don't seem to think that's possible. I can admit the kids were "wrong" for not listening....but will the conservatives here admit that the cop did something wrong? I highly doubt it, as they have proven here in this thread. Says a lot about them more than anything else.
Wow. You obviously weren't raised to respect authority. I bet you're the type to run your mouth to a cop while he's Trying to do his job. Am I right? Not me, I don't get in to trouble but if I did I'd keep my damn mouth shut. And you would NEVER see me or any of my kids getting their asses kicked by cops on YouTube. Impossible. It could never happen.
BTW you're the only one talking about race. I don't think race matters here to anyone but you. Something to think about.
No, I do respect authority. Whenever I am pulled over, I say "yes sir, no sir", and admit what I did wrong, because I know it usually gets me out of the ticket. And I would also obey the cops if they tell me to leave, because I don't want any trouble. But I don't expect everyone to be like me - I insist on analyzing the actual real world we live in, and then form my opinions based on that....so when I think about other cultures, education levels, and social classes, I would never expect everyone to react the same way. Because we would do that, does that excuse the cop in your opinion?
As for your comment about me bringing up race....I'm not sure I understand the point. Are you saying that the other posters here do not consider race when forming their opinions just because they don't put it in writing? Just curious.
As for your kids....HAHAHAH, I've heard that so many times from so many parents....meanwhile they are getting drunk and high on a regular basis. Too funny.
What does it say about them?
To me, it shows they don't really have the courage of their own convictions, nor does it show they possess humility, which is a very nice trait to have.
Bottom line the cop resigned. Over and out. Done.
The city will settle with the family. Hopefully the police department will be more careful regarding who they hire in the future.
Drinking and smoking pot? No, it takes a special sort of screwed up delinquent child to find themselves one minute AT A POOL PARTY and the next minute getting thrown around by cops. Most kids would never find themselves in this position. Mine included.
I had two big parties at my Pop's house in Fort Walton Beach in '77 and '78. I never invited more than 30 or 40 kids, but somehow, word got out and more than 100 kids showed up. Cars were parked all over the street. There was loud music. Pot was smoked and gallons of hunch punch were consumed. Cops showed up at both. Kids were chased out back, over the fence, and through the woods at both parties. Most of those kids are now respected members of the community.
Me too in fact.
I don't think anything new or overtly dangerous was happening at the pool party.
Get a new line of questioning, dude. The current one is silly.
you're the one calling people racist in a context which has nothing to do with race. More silliness.
What was silly of me was believing you were a serious poster, but it appears as if you are just another Muleman. For the record, nothing you say ever bothers me, not one bit.....not ever since the time I absolutely slaughtered you the first time you tried to debate me. It's amazing how fast you unravel.
Where the F is Fujirich? It'd be nice to hear an intelligent POV for once. Maybe I'll start a "Please Come Back Fuji" thread.
