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BillyBlastoff
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They know he is weak and because of his complete failure on foreign policy they were able to grow exponentially.

I'll bet a dime to a dollar you wouldn't last 2 rounds in the ring with Obama. You are the weak one Mule. You are a complete and utter failure compared to the mighty Obama.


 
Posted : November 17, 2015 8:17 am
Muleman1994
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Ultra-liberal Bill Maher calls on the left to wake up:

Maher: ‘Lots of Mainstream’ Muslims ‘Share Ideas’ With Terrorists, Liberals Need To Declare ‘No Quarter’ for Radicalism.

- Monday’s broadcast of CBS’ “The Late Show with Stephen Colbert.”


 
Posted : November 17, 2015 8:19 am
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ISIS must really enjoy Obama's speeches when he repeatedly states what he will not do.

Yes, maybe we should ask Jihadi John what he thinks of Obama's weakness..... oh, wait.....


 
Posted : November 17, 2015 8:20 am
Muleman1994
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ISIS must really enjoy Obama's speeches when he repeatedly states what he will not do.

Yes, maybe we should ask Jihadi John what he thinks of Obama's weakness..... oh, wait.....

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Maybe we should ask the thousands of dead, killed by Islamic Extremist Terrorists what they think of the weak, cowardly American President.


 
Posted : November 17, 2015 8:24 am
gondicar
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Ultra-liberal Bill Maher calls on the left to wake up:

Maher: ‘Lots of Mainstream’ Muslims ‘Share Ideas’ With Terrorists, Liberals Need To Declare ‘No Quarter’ for Radicalism.

- Monday’s broadcast of CBS’ “The Late Show with Stephen Colbert.”


 
Posted : November 17, 2015 8:27 am
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Here is what mulemans weak and xenophobic rants don't mention. Terrorists do not need to masquerade as refugees. The brothers who were responsible for the Marathon bombings were US citizens and legal residents of the US. The 9/11 airplane hijackers got into the country any way they wished and brought about the worst act of terror to date in the USA. Refugees are people who are FLEEING from that sort of thing in their own homeland and over 750,000 of them have come to the US since 9/11 and none have been arrested for anything terrorism related.


 
Posted : November 17, 2015 8:31 am
Muleman1994
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Democrat Governors see the writing on the wall, joining effort lead by Republican Governors to block Syrian refugees. Heading the warning by Obama's CIA Director, Homeland Security Sec. and many other senior administration officials that have said these people cannot be vetted.

Now, 30 States are standing up to Obama's reckless policy to allow Syrian refugees freely into the U.S.


 
Posted : November 17, 2015 8:42 am
gondicar
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Maher: ‘Lots of Mainstream’ Muslims ‘Share Ideas’ With Terrorists, Liberals Need To Declare ‘No Quarter’ for Radicalism.

A creatively misleading quote by Breitbart that strings together three separate blocks of words that Maher never strung together himself. No wonder you didn't post the link.

With the "no quarter" comment Maher was actually talking about the need for liberals to reject the conservative ideas. Here is what he actually said...

“you can’t wipe people out, off the map. That’s not going to happen. What you have to do is wipe out the idea. It would be one thing if the terrorists did not share ideas with lots of mainstream people who follow the Islamic religion, but they do. Unfortunately, if I said to you, ‘Well, if only ISIS believed that anyone who leaves the religion should be killed.’ Well, maybe then we can finally kill all of ISIS, but what if that’s 20, 30, 40% of all Muslim people in the world. You’re not going to kill all of them, are you?”

“We have to change those ideas, women as second class citizens, gay people don’t deserve to be alive. these are mainstream ideas, unfortunately. And liberals have to say, ‘No quarter, no quarter for those kind of ideas.'”


 
Posted : November 17, 2015 8:51 am
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Christians who want to close our borders and keep the Syrian refugees out are so right about this whole Syrian refugee thing - good thing Jesus, Mary and Joseph weren't middle eastern refugees..... oh, wait.

God did advise people in the Bible, 'when you are persecuted in one place, flee to another' and also that there must be cities of refuge for situations that happened back then, and it is still applicable to now.

When Jesus does return, he will not accept secular law, God did not create secular law. He will end up being regarded as a terrorist, because he will try to help those who are currently viewed as terrorists. These people we view as terrorists are trying to implement what they believe to be God's laws in the world. A Holy War is already here, people just do not understand that yet. Are there any groups who are 100% correct in what they want to establish as God's laws in the land? No, all have some divergence and disagreements.

Still, people should realize they are asking for some things which God asked for of the people during the times of the prophets and messengers. Jesus, Mohammed, Noah, Moses all tried to bring guidance to the people of their times. People rejected guidance and will continue to do whatever they want to please themselves till Judgement Day.


 
Posted : November 17, 2015 8:59 am
Muleman1994
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I doubt God included terrorists who openly vow to kill you.
God does require you to protect the innocent.


 
Posted : November 17, 2015 1:40 pm
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Democrat Governors see the writing on the wall, joining effort lead by Republican Governors to block Syrian refugees. Heading the warning by Obama's CIA Director, Homeland Security Sec. and many other senior administration officials that have said these people cannot be vetted.

Now, 30 States are standing up to Obama's reckless policy to allow Syrian refugees freely into the U.S.

Here is a chance to activate a brain long dormant due to right wing silliness. 15 of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudis and Saudis today continue to join ISiS. One would think that Saudis would be a much greater security threat than poor refugees. Why pick on Syrians who were victims of ISIS? Why not ban the Saudis? If one wants to be paranoid that is the much better choice.

This distraction is starting to look very much like the invasion of Iraq.


 
Posted : November 17, 2015 2:02 pm
Muleman1994
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Democrat Governors see the writing on the wall, joining effort lead by Republican Governors to block Syrian refugees. Heading the warning by Obama's CIA Director, Homeland Security Sec. and many other senior administration officials that have said these people cannot be vetted.

Now, 30 States are standing up to Obama's reckless policy to allow Syrian refugees freely into the U.S.

Here is a chance to activate a brain long dormant due to right wing silliness. 15 of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudis and Saudis today continue to join ISiS. One would think that Saudis would be a much greater security threat than poor refugees. Why pick on Syrians who were victims of ISIS? Why not ban the Saudis? If one wants to be paranoid that is the much better choice.

This distraction is starting to look very much like the invasion of Iraq.

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I always hope that no one is that fu$cking stupid.
You proved me wrong.

Excuse making and cowering under Obama's skirt solves nothing but it does perpetuate the problem.


 
Posted : November 17, 2015 2:16 pm
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I generally dont get into all of the politcal debate over here on the WP.
I dont have a political affilation these days. I just go with common sense
and what I feel is morally right. I am open to all points of view whether
what side of the fence you are on.

I feel as a nation we have to look after number one first which is our safety and security. I know it has been mentioned that no Syria refugees
are terrorists, but how can we be for certain they wont try and infiltrate
through a situation like the president is putting out there, especially with the opportunity to get in to the USA. They all could be fine people looking for a safe haven,
but do we know for sure? I dont. If we do let them in and something happens a few years down the road, that would not be good. How would you feel if it was your wife,
children,parents or other loved ones if something were to happen if they were let in.
I know it sounds cliche'..but something to think about.
For all we know, they are all ready here.

I just pray, thats all I can do.

[Edited on 11/18/2015 by jszfunk]


Everyone has a plan, till you get punched in the face,

 
Posted : November 17, 2015 2:47 pm
Muleman1994
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Democrat Governors see the writing on the wall, joining effort lead by Republican Governors to block Syrian refugees. Heading the warning by Obama's CIA Director, Homeland Security Sec. and many other senior administration officials that have said these people cannot be vetted.

Now, 30 States are standing up to Obama's reckless policy to allow Syrian refugees freely into the U.S.

Here is a chance to activate a brain long dormant due to right wing silliness. 15 of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudis and Saudis today continue to join ISiS. One would think that Saudis would be a much greater security threat than poor refugees. Why pick on Syrians who were victims of ISIS? Why not ban the Saudis? If one wants to be paranoid that is the much better choice.

This distraction is starting to look very much like the invasion of Iraq.

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The 9/11 hijackers came to The U.S. on Clinton’s watch who’s administration gave them visas and lost control of them. They overstayed their visas and trained to fly still on Clinton’s watch. The Clinton administration ignored the Al Qaeda’s numerous attacks against The U.S.

You offer no proof that Saudis are joining ISIS. They are more likely to be joining the Al Qaeda affiliate fighting in Yemen.

Obama is allowing thousands of Syrian refugees to come to the U.S. and roam free. The Obama administration has no way to vet them, no way to discern which or how many of them are ISIS fighters.

What part of not allowing Islamic Extremist Terrorists, obligated to kill us into our country do you not understand?

If you need to consult, ask a Frenchman.


 
Posted : November 17, 2015 3:28 pm
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all i can say is that i am not afraid of them. 99.9999% are probably not a problem. i am more concerned an american will kill me than a daesh member. well 99.9998%. even if we don't let any of them into the country 30,000 people will be killed in the next year in the USA.

whatever.


 
Posted : November 17, 2015 3:34 pm
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I agree jzfunk. I'm mostly liberal and this seems like a real bad idea. These terrorists exploit any weakness a country has before we even know it. Not just the US but everywhere.

The US can help in many other ways besides inviting refugees here. I'm sorry but it is very naive to believe they haven't thought about infiltrating the refugees, if they haven't already. I'm glad none have been accused of anything but that was before ISIS. And there are plenty of other places for them to go too. I hate to be so cold but the Arab world has nobody to blame but themselves for ISIS. Since 9/11, I have yet to hear a prominent Muslim leader declare war on Al-Qeuda or ISIS. I hear small talk only. I have yet to hear of any stories of Widespread condemnation of terrorism by Arab civilians. In fact, the liberal Bill Maher revealed that a large majority of Arab Muslim civilians AGREE with various aspects of Sharia law. Where is the outrage among Muslims for what ISIS has done? If the Arab communities rose up and condemned such horrors, startin on 9/12/01, maybe ISIS doesnt form. The Arabs are the only ones who can root out this evil - but they have to WANT it first.

Ignore the trolling. We have real issues to discuss.


 
Posted : November 17, 2015 3:36 pm
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If they do come at a minimum they should be fingetprinted, chipped, and dna sequenced.


 
Posted : November 17, 2015 3:39 pm
jszfunk
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I agree jzfunk. I'm mostly liberal and this seems like a real bad idea. These terrorists exploit any weakness a country has before we even know it. Not just the US but everywhere.

The US can help in many other ways besides inviting refugees here. I'm sorry but it is very naive to believe they haven't thought about infiltrating the refugees, if they haven't already. I'm glad none have been accused of anything but that was before ISIS. And there are plenty of other places for them to go too. I hate to be so cold but the Arab world has nobody to blame but themselves for ISIS. Since 9/11, I have yet to hear a prominent Muslim leader declare war on Al-Qeuda or ISIS. I hear small talk only. I have yet to hear of any stories of Widespread condemnation of terrorism by Arab civilians. In fact, the liberal Bill Maher revealed that a large majority of Arab Muslim civilians AGREE with various aspects of Sharia law. Where is the outrage among Muslims for what ISIS has done? If the Arab communities rose up and condemned such horrors, startin on 9/12/01, maybe ISIS doesnt form. The Arabs are the only ones who can root out this evil - but they have to WANT it first.

Ignore the trolling. We have real issues to discuss.

Thank you, good post.


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Posted : November 17, 2015 3:47 pm
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actually, i should not have used the 30,000 number as that might imply i meant gun violence. that is not what i intended. the number of americans that will die in the next year is far higher than that. we seem to be accepting of the other causes as "stuff happens". so what if some terrorists kill another 100-200-500. small potatoes. i know that sounds cold but like i said, i'm personally not concerned. i guess keeping them from coming is an easy way to save 0-500 lives but we could do the same for alot of other deaths and we don't.

whatever


 
Posted : November 17, 2015 3:56 pm
Muleman1994
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actually, i should not have used the 30,000 number as that might imply i meant gun violence. that is not what i intended. the number of americans that will die in the next year is far higher than that. we seem to be accepting of the other causes as "stuff happens". so what if some terrorists kill another 100-200-500. small potatoes. i know that sounds cold but like i said, i'm personally not concerned. i guess keeping them from coming is an easy way to save 0-500 lives but we could do the same for alot of other deaths and we don't.

whatever

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Numbers, lots of numbers.

I think the number that matters is the one or the many than can be saved by making the choice to do everything possible to keep Islamic Extremist Terrorists out of our country.

The threat is real and right before our eyes. It is known that ISIS fighters are imbedded with the Syrian refugees.

All steps must to be taken to keep everyone safe.


 
Posted : November 17, 2015 4:20 pm
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When these young men from Syria turn around and go back and fight for their country then we can give refuge to their women and children most of the refugees are young men fleeing their own country yet they expect us to send our young men to fight for their country NO F__King way!

No one has the info to vet these people and they do not assimilate into the population they stick to their own kind not wanting to be Americans but Muslims in America again sorry I say to all people regardless of race creed or color if you want to come and live in America then come and be American!


 
Posted : November 17, 2015 4:55 pm
Muleman1994
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When these young men from Syria turn around and go back and fight for their country then we can give refuge to their women and children most of the refugees are young men fleeing their own country yet they expect us to send our young men to fight for their country NO F__King way!

No one has the info to vet these people and they do not assimilate into the population they stick to their own kind not wanting to be Americans but Muslims in America again sorry I say to all people regardless of race creed or color if you want to come and live in America then come and be American!

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+1

Its not cold, it is patriotic and realistic.
With a well protected homeland we can do more for others.


 
Posted : November 17, 2015 5:28 pm
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The USA can provide significant support for the refugees without importing them to our country. We should not continue to admit large groups of immigrants whose beliefs are not compatible with our society and culture. Multiculturalism does NOT work and there is plenty of evidence throughout Europe. Many of those countries will lose their identities as their native populations get replaced by immigrants.

There are many peaceful Muslims, but they all subscribe to sharia law. Trust me when I tell you that you do not want to live under sharia law.


 
Posted : November 17, 2015 6:10 pm
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The USA can provide significant support for the refugees without importing them to our country. We should not continue to admit large groups of immigrants whose beliefs are not compatible with our society and culture. Multiculturalism does NOT work and there is plenty of evidence throughout Europe. Many of those countries will lose their identities as their native populations get replaced by immigrants.

There are many peaceful Muslims, but they all subscribe to sharia law. Trust me when I tell you that you do not want to live under sharia law.

This is one of the most unAmerican posts I've read here. America is built on multiculturalism.

[Edited on 11/18/2015 by gondicar]


 
Posted : November 17, 2015 6:15 pm
bluesboy57
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The USA can provide significant support for the refugees without importing them to our country. We should not continue to admit large groups of immigrants whose beliefs are not compatible with our society and culture. Multiculturalism does NOT work and there is plenty of evidence throughout Europe. Many of those countries will lose their identities as their native populations get replaced by immigrants.

There are many peaceful Muslims, but they all subscribe to sharia law. Trust me when I tell you that you do not want to live under sharia law.

This is some of the most unAmerican posts I've read here. America is built on multiculturalism.

America was build by people, largely European christians, who wanted to assimilate. Multiculturalism discourages assimilation.


 
Posted : November 17, 2015 6:18 pm
gondicar
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The USA can provide significant support for the refugees without importing them to our country. We should not continue to admit large groups of immigrants whose beliefs are not compatible with our society and culture. Multiculturalism does NOT work and there is plenty of evidence throughout Europe. Many of those countries will lose their identities as their native populations get replaced by immigrants.

There are many peaceful Muslims, but they all subscribe to sharia law. Trust me when I tell you that you do not want to live under sharia law.

This is some of the most unAmerican posts I've read here. America is built on multiculturalism.

America was build by people, largely European christians, who wanted to assimilate. Multiculturalism discourages assimilation.

Agree to disagree.


 
Posted : November 17, 2015 6:22 pm
Muleman1994
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The USA can provide significant support for the refugees without importing them to our country. We should not continue to admit large groups of immigrants whose beliefs are not compatible with our society and culture. Multiculturalism does NOT work and there is plenty of evidence throughout Europe. Many of those countries will lose their identities as their native populations get replaced by immigrants.

There are many peaceful Muslims, but they all subscribe to sharia law. Trust me when I tell you that you do not want to live under sharia law.

This is one of the most unAmerican posts I've read here. America is built on multiculturalism.
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The post you criticize comes from a patriot and a realist.
Patriotism is a strong concept that keeps America Great. You should try it sometime.

America was not built by Islamic Extremist Terrorists.


 
Posted : November 17, 2015 6:58 pm
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[Edited on 11/18/2015 by Muleman1994]


 
Posted : November 17, 2015 6:59 pm
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Another meaningless graphic - you seem to have a lot of them......


 
Posted : November 17, 2015 7:08 pm
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America was not built by Islamic Extremist Terrorists.

Wouldn't Paul revere and his buddies be considered Terrorists back in the jour?


 
Posted : November 17, 2015 7:37 pm
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