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So the president is fined $2 million dollars for stealing from a charity, and it hardly makes the news and nobody seems to care. Meanwhile Trump and his cult members continue to complain about how unfair the media is to him. Where did we go wrong? This is truly madness!


 
Posted : November 9, 2019 5:52 pm
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So the president is fined $2 million dollars for stealing from a charity, and it hardly makes the news and nobody seems to care. Meanwhile Trump and his cult members continue to complain about how unfair the media is to him. Where did we go wrong? This is truly madness!

Just another episode of apprentice prez...Just think people think he's the guy that should represent the US to the world....


 
Posted : November 9, 2019 5:59 pm
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On the face of it however, it sounds too much like “fake news”
A billionaire stealing from a charity?
Will look it up - he was fined so mayb some credibility, but too often that’s not the case
Perhaps it hasn’t made the splash anticipated for that reason - the supermarket tabloid trash journalism has become

[Edited on 11/10/2019 by Stephen]


 
Posted : November 9, 2019 6:07 pm
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Will look it up

You do that.


 
Posted : November 10, 2019 7:22 am
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Yep, money from a now-defunct foundation was funneled in go his campaign effort, a misuse of funds - ‘stealing’ not so sure about that, it’s all his money, but clearly a misuse of funds intended for his charity foundations - that’s how I read it anyway

Also saw a story that his children can no longer be involved w/the foundations b/c they were stealing from children’s charities - if true, that’s a worse thing than the misuse of funds that, as you said, resulted in a $2M fine - it wasn’t fake news after all


 
Posted : November 10, 2019 8:07 am
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A billionaire stealing from a charity?

Force of habit: he is a money grubbing greedy dishonest chiseling pathological liar criminal.


 
Posted : November 10, 2019 8:41 am
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Yep, money from a now-defunct foundation was funneled in go his campaign effort, a misuse of funds - ‘stealing’ not so sure about that, it’s all his money, but clearly a misuse of funds intended for his charity foundations - that’s how I read it anyway

It actually wasn't his money. Trump had very little of his own money in his foundation. He solicited donations to his foundation from friends, business associates, and Republican donors. In 2016, there isn't a record of Trump putting a single dollar into his foundation. He did, however, use foundation money to pay fines for his business, buy artwork, and pay for golf outings.


 
Posted : November 10, 2019 9:35 am
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Apologetics is an art. First, spin story as possible "Fake News" before checking it out, then after checking it out sprinkle some sugar on the turd.


 
Posted : November 10, 2019 9:44 am
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Yep, money from a now-defunct foundation was funneled in go his campaign effort, a misuse of funds - ‘stealing’ not so sure about that, it’s all his money, but clearly a misuse of funds intended for his charity foundations - that’s how I read it anyway

It actually wasn't his money. Trump had very little of his own money in his foundation. He solicited donations to his foundation from friends, business associates, and Republican donors. In 2016, there isn't a record of Trump putting a single dollar into his foundation. He did, however, use foundation money to pay fines for his business, buy artwork, and pay for golf outings.

It is sad Trump lacks the funds to pay for his necessities in life. If we would have have known this earlier, we could have all chipped in to help him out. Below is a little blurb on Don Jr's Boy Scout Dues:

https://www.bustle.com/p/did-trump-once-pay-his-sons-boy-scout-registration-fee-with-charity-money-72545

"Over the years, no other organization or charity has received as much financial support from the president as the Trump Foundation, with the largest donation amounting to $264,631 — the cause being renovating a fountain at the Plaza Hotel, one of his properties. The smallest donation dates back to 1989 — when Donald Trump Jr. was 11 years old — was the $7 Trump seemingly used to pay for his oldest son's Boy Scouts" registration fee.


 
Posted : November 10, 2019 10:24 am
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A billionaire stealing from a charity?

Force of habit: he is a money grubbing greedy dishonest chiseling pathological liar criminal.

[/quote)

You’re mellowing brer 😮
Aren’t you forgetting, a despicable demagogue, a dirty devious despot who’s polluted the political atmosphere w/deep discord, divisive dissension, distrust & suspicion, anger & rancor, enmity & animosity - a deplorable disgrace to the office of the presidency, foisting on Americans w/an iron corrupt fist, sordid imperial government as inept & incompetent as it is illegal/reprehensible/repugnant while running roughshod over the Constitution

A scandalous scoundrel, a sleazy shyster, a self styled scofflaw, a belligerent bully, a wayward war monger/lethal loose cannon.....

He’s been called all these things
Less an apologist, I’m just one American who believes the law wouldn’t permit him to be free, much less in the WH, if he WERE all these things, or even half of them -
peaceful best wishes

[Edited on 11/16/2019 by Stephen]


 
Posted : November 10, 2019 10:27 am
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A billionaire stealing from a charity?

Force of habit: he is a money grubbing greedy dishonest chiseling pathological liar criminal.

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You’re mellowing brer 😮
Aren’t you forgetting, a despicable demagogue, a dirty devious despot who’s polluted the political atmosphere w/deep discord, divisive dissension, sinister suspicion, anger & rancor, enmity & animosity - forcing on Americans w/an iron corrupt fist, a sordid imperial presidency as incompetent as it is illegal/reprehensible/repugnant while running roughshod over the Constitution
A scandalous scoundrel, a self styled scofflaw, a belligerent bully, a wayward war mongrel/lethal loose cannon.....

He’s been called all these things
Less an apologist, I’m just one American who believes the law wouldn’t permit him to be free, much less in the WH, if he WERE all these things, or even half of them -
peaceful best wishes

As the title of this thread states - Strange times we live in!


 
Posted : November 10, 2019 10:37 am
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You’re mellowing brer

Always been mellow. Just using my own two eyes - we got us a real bad apple.


 
Posted : November 10, 2019 10:50 am
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Word, all good -
It’s the decline in journalistic standards/ethics I deplore, more than being a Trump supporter/apologist Smile - that’s kinda my apple in this barrel, hate seeing it going rotten/sprouting worms 😮 😉

[Edited on 11/10/2019 by Stephen]


 
Posted : November 10, 2019 11:17 am
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Yes all good man


 
Posted : November 10, 2019 12:36 pm
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So the president is fined $2 million dollars for stealing from a charity, and it hardly makes the news and nobody seems to care. Meanwhile Trump and his cult members continue to complain about how unfair the media is to him. Where did we go wrong? This is truly madness!

I haven't seen anything on the news, so I'd like to find out which charity he allegedly) stole from. Please post link.


 
Posted : November 10, 2019 1:48 pm
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There is this internet search engine called Google, try that.

I searched "Trump Charity Case", got pages of current articles, but once again ALL CORRUPT LIBERAL MEDIA. NOT ONE itty bitty report from Fox, Breitbart, Newsmax, or other conservative news. Therefore it is Fake News, did not happen.


 
Posted : November 10, 2019 4:13 pm
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Oh wait, hold on, I found a report on page 4 of Google search, from some noname Fox affiliate. Must have happened.


 
Posted : November 10, 2019 4:17 pm
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Ok so check this out, with the idea that Google and Bing might be blocking conservative news from search results, I found a conservative news search engine "4conservative.com".
https://www.4conservative.com/search/?q=trump+charity+fraud&st=w&scat=conservative_politics&bcat=&sa=

Nothing. NADA. At least on Google I finally eked out a Fox article.

Anything at all critical of your Dear Leader is MUZZLED.

All you "Fake News" people are blindfolded - your news is for real fake, or more accurately blacked out and non-existent - no wonder you aren't hearing about these things.


 
Posted : November 10, 2019 4:41 pm
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So the president is fined $2 million dollars for stealing from a charity, and it hardly makes the news and nobody seems to care. Meanwhile Trump and his cult members continue to complain about how unfair the media is to him. Where did we go wrong? This is truly madness!

I haven't seen anything on the news, so I'd like to find out which charity he allegedly) stole from. Please post link.

Hey, even Fox News reported it and admitted it was illegal activities, although they still sanitized it. But here you go. Using Google and finding a more unbiased site will give you more information on the misuse of funds and that the foundation money was mostly from other people and not Trump himself.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/potus-to-pay-2-million-admits-misuse-of-trump-foundation-funds-in-settlement-with-ny-ag


 
Posted : November 10, 2019 5:42 pm
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Strange days have found us
Strange days have tracked us down . . .


 
Posted : November 10, 2019 5:54 pm
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Where did we go wrong? This is truly madness!

JFK assassination - that was the point of no return


 
Posted : November 10, 2019 6:27 pm
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Where did we go wrong? This is truly madness!

JFK assassination - that was the point of no return

The advent of numerous news outlets hasn’t been helpful - they have to compete for higher ratings than the others & in that ongoing quest for viewers/listeners & $$$$, information becomes slanted, skewed, sensationalized & ultimately inaccurate IMO - not always but too often still

But yes, we might have been forced into this point by previous transgressions like the Warren Cmsn report on JFK, the misleading gov’t info a few years later about how well the war in Viet Nam was going, when US casualties were horrific.....into the Watergate era, the Iran contra scandal......& so on


 
Posted : November 11, 2019 2:36 am
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"Fake News" is fake news. A disinfo buzzword that operates in much the same way as "conspiracy theory". A post-hypnotic trigger word to shut down all thought process related to the question. Highly effective voluntary self-induced mind control tactic.


 
Posted : November 11, 2019 10:02 am
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The advent of numerous news outlets hasn’t been helpful - they have to compete for higher ratings than the others & in that ongoing quest for viewers/listeners & $$$$, information becomes slanted, skewed, sensationalized & ultimately inaccurate IMO - not always but too often still

It then becomes up to us to find the right answers.

Anyone who wants to follow politics right now, you don't need CNN or Fox or MSNBC. Check this list...

Trump's twitter feed
White House webpage - Speeches and press releases
C-SPAN
thomas.gov (the Congressional Record)

...and all the answers are there.


 
Posted : November 11, 2019 10:06 am
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Exactly man, catch the turds while they are fresh and steamin from the presidential fanus.


 
Posted : November 11, 2019 10:10 am
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The advent of numerous news outlets hasn’t been helpful - they have to compete for higher ratings than the others & in that ongoing quest for viewers/listeners & $$$$, information becomes slanted, skewed, sensationalized & ultimately inaccurate IMO - not always but too often still

It then becomes up to us to find the right answers.

Anyone who wants to follow politics right now, you don't need CNN or Fox or MSNBC. Check this list...

Trump's twitter feed
White House webpage - Speeches and press releases
C-SPAN
thomas.gov (the Congressional Record)

...and all the answers are there.

Agreed 100%, CSpan. also the WSJournal - hearing direct communiques from the White House via his tweets, while wrong to some, I’m all for - haven’t been to the WHouse webpage or Thomas.gov - thx! Smile


 
Posted : November 11, 2019 10:28 am
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The advent of numerous news outlets hasn’t been helpful - they have to compete for higher ratings than the others & in that ongoing quest for viewers/listeners & $$$$, information becomes slanted, skewed, sensationalized & ultimately inaccurate IMO - not always but too often still

It then becomes up to us to find the right answers.

Anyone who wants to follow politics right now, you don't need CNN or Fox or MSNBC. Check this list...

Trump's twitter feed
White House webpage - Speeches and press releases
C-SPAN
thomas.gov (the Congressional Record)

...and all the answers are there.

You forgot the official White House briefings...except they no longer exist. The latest press secretary, Stephanie Grisham has held zero I believe. But she has plenty of time to run to FOX. Hopefully when we get a new president, normalcy in briefings will begin again following Spicer, Sanders, and invisible Grisham.

"White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham has yet to hold a briefing with reporters, but finds time for Fox News"

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/11/media/stephanie-grisham-briefings-fox/index.html


 
Posted : November 11, 2019 11:37 am
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White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham has yet to hold a briefing with reporters . . .

All other admins had daily briefings. Going on a year since this White House had one. They've gone rogue. Slammed the door in our face - who here is good with that?

Oh wait, that's right the snowflake dictator didn't allow no sass or lip, couldn't handle a simple press briefing wehhh-wehhhh snivel gripe grunt the reporters were meanies, why, why they actually wanted to know what we was up to ! The nerve!!! How we sposed to tell em what we are doing IF WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WE ARE DOING? To hell with Fake News, let's just NOT TELL EM A DAMN THING!!!


 
Posted : November 11, 2019 1:20 pm
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So the president is fined $2 million dollars for stealing from a charity, and it hardly makes the news and nobody seems to care. Meanwhile Trump and his cult members continue to complain about how unfair the media is to him. Where did we go wrong? This is truly madness!

I haven't seen anything on the news, so I'd like to find out which charity he allegedly) stole from. Please post link.

Thanks for the links BrerRabbit and 2112.


 
Posted : November 11, 2019 4:32 pm
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I haven't seen anything on the news, so I'd like to find out which charity he allegedly) stole from. Please post link.

Old news. This goes back to the dissolution of The Trump Foundation in 2018 for funneling $ to his campaign, paying off TO debts, & buying a portrait for his club = stealing aka misappropriation. Despite vowing to fight the charges, Trump ADMITTED WRONGDOING & settled the case last month and was approved by a judge last week. The $2mm in damages is in addition to whatever was left in the Fund & will be paid to 7 non-profits unrelated to any of the Trumps.

The concession from the NYS AG was that Trump isn't barred from ever running a non-profit again & the 3 Ivana kids are allowed to serve on non-profit boards after taking "training."

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/07/nyregion/trump-charities-new-york.html?searchResultPosition=1


 
Posted : November 11, 2019 5:41 pm
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