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Ben Carson gave his endorsement to Trump today, one of the things he mentioned was that Hillary was a "student" of Saul Alinsky and that in one of the books written by Saul Alinsky was a dedication to Lucifer. We need to know if that is true.
If that is true, then there is a LOT more riding on this election than most people realize. Many BIG elite, power people had a meeting on a Georgia Island over the weekend, they came in seventy private jets to discuss how to stop Trump.
Maybe we need to get on the Trump Train, or pay a very heavy price.

Not sure if they edited it out of this but in the original endorsement he mentioned Alinsky and the first page in one of his books dedicated to "Lucifer".

google is amazing
"Rules for Radicals"
He dedicated the book to Irene. This is a quote that appears at the outset of the book, and it's not the dedication
“Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history... the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.”
[Edited on 3/11/2016 by LeglizHemp]
[Edited on 3/11/2016 by LeglizHemp]

That's right.
"The Alinsky-ites say, �never have a conversation with your adversary because that humanizes them, and your job is to demonize them,�� Carson said. �In order to solve that problem, we must not allow ourselves to be manipulated. We must go out. We must talk, even to people with whom we disagree, and we must ask them, �What kind of America do you want to have? What do you want to pass on to your children?��
Carson said many aren�t familiar with the principles laid out in �Rules for Radicals,� and certainly have no idea the book is dedicated to Lucifer. Yet, because they have not yet educated themselves, they �blindly follow, like the pied piper over the cliff.�
AND
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/422200/ben-carson-saul-alinsky-hillary-clinton
He answered a a question about Hillary Clinton by referring to her belief in �the Alinsky model,� a topic of great interest in the conservative blogosphere. Named after Saul Alinksy, the late community organizer who inspired both Hillary and Barack Obama, the model calls for destabilizing the existing system from the inside and paving the way for radical social change.
So, if you want to vote for Hillary, she is inspired by the Alinsky model, a model dedicated to Lucifer. The book was dedicated to Lucifer. Once she saw that, why would she continue to be involved with that movement and training?
We need to take back our country.
[Edited on 3/19/2016 by gina]

and Trump is an anti-establishment candidate and i thought Hillary was the establishment candidate.
so who is Lucifer again?
[Edited on 3/11/2016 by LeglizHemp]
[Edited on 3/11/2016 by LeglizHemp]

Ben Carson gave his endorsement to Trump today, one of the things he mentioned was that Hillary was a "student" of Saul Alinsky and that in one of the books written by Saul Alinsky was a dedication to Lucifer. We need to know if that is true.
If that is true, then there is a LOT more riding on this election than most people realize. Many BIG elite, power people had a meeting on a Georgia Island over the weekend, they came in seventy private jets to discuss how to stop Trump.
Maybe we need to get on the Trump Train, or pay a very heavy price.
If this is true, then it would be the first thing Carson has said that is true.
And if Trump wins, then I'm afraid that America will go the way of Trump University, with all of his supporters realizing that they've been conned by a snake oil salesman like all of Stump University students were.

Lucifer was the first rebel. He did not feel like he needed to obey someone who was less enlightened than him so he refused. He was punished for that. The issue was not that the man of clay was more smart than he was, the issue was that he disobeyed his superior and did not give his Lord the respect he deserved. But Lucifer was crafty. He made a deal with God.
The deal was that he would mislead as many people as possible, those who were willing, and in this way, it would help God to weed out those not worthy to be in his Kingdom. After all if he was able to deceive them, they were not worthy to be in God's kingdom. Lucifer had no problem with obeying God, but he refused to obey a mortal man. God however, put a mortal man in charge of the earth and those on it, that is what Lucifer did not comprehend. The lesson is still something debated even with Muslims who do not think they should obey rulers who are not good Muslims in their opinion, but Archangel Gabriel brought the message to Muhammad to tell the people that they had to bear with rulers even if they thought they were unjust, because it was by God's dispensation that they obtained those positions they were in.
Jesus himself gave examples of how to deal with unjustness in the times he lived in. The taxation was a hot issue even then, so he said give to Caesar what is Casears, and give to God what is God's. He knew they were a bunch of crooks and criminals, but God allowed them to be in charge for a specified time. He smites groups of people with other groups, happens time and time again.
The stakes are higher now because from our time till Judgement Day, the path we choose will effect us for eternity. If we elect someone who accepts Lucifer's teachings, doctrines, even ways of management and governance as the way to get things done, it will only lead to a path of destruction.

so Donald Trump is Lucifer?
An Anti-establishment candidate looking to get his own Kingdom.
That is the problem with using fairy tails to make political choices.
[Edited on 3/11/2016 by LeglizHemp]

No Trump is the Godly person. He doesn't want his own kingdom, he wants to lead a nation back to what it was before it got all screwed up. Some of the others are students of Alinsky who uses tactics to destroy nations, tear it down, then create something else and control everyone and everything.
What are the 8 levels of control as outlined by Saul Alinsky
"Control health care ~ This fact about universal health care isn't mentioned. It creates universal documentation. It allows the party in control of Government to have information to blackmail all political opponents and their families.
They don't even have to create poverty. Government can simply change the definition of poverty. Then increase class envy, It provides the ammunition to use class warfare for political gain. Divide the nation into easily intimidated factions. Next, offer "social justice to one faction and sell protection from government intrusions to the other factions in the form of tax breaks.
Debt ~ Increase personal and government debt to the point where people can't save for retirement. Fractional reserve banking deficit spending causes savings diminish through inflation. All taxation slows the economy. Government spends to undo the damage caused by taxation, then taxes to pay for the spending.
Gun control ~ Liberty starts when government fears the people.
Welfare ~ Any nation which tries to eliminate the awful outcomes of immoral behavior will eventually cause a plague consisting of it's own corruption.
Education ~ Before I went to University, my school allowed guns and knives. Students actually carried them at times. No one was ever hurt with either. We had prayer every morning. The teachers knew how to effectively discipline the students. (Trust me on that one) No kid ever took drugs. No kid ever smoked. The graduation rate was 100%.
Religion ~ Once it removes God, government can then teach students not to judge the behavior of other people on moral grounds. This means only government gets to decide what is good or evil. If you create a culture of "non-judgmentalism" people can then do any behavior they wish and government will have the duty to eliminate their suffering.
Class warfare ~ as I said earlier, is fueled by envy. Social justice is an oxymoron, because all justice is individual. It is the implicit understanding one faction deserves more justice than another faction. "
ALL of these things have happened under the guidance and leadership of previous candidates, that is why we need a change and why they object to Trump. He doesn't go along with them.
[Edited on 3/12/2016 by gina]

ok Gina

For America to have to worry it could be put into martial law is something that would be unthinkable in earlier times, yet now people have to consider that. The government itself prepared for that, practicing in the Jade Helm exercises.
They build "Civilian Internment Camps" concentration camps on US soil, with US tax money so they can put people in there if and when they choose to including US citizens, who no longer have any rights in America.
Look at all the things that have happened in this country. We sit back and accept wars nobody wants, asked for or even understand. The government no longer works for us, they work for themselves to pad their retirement accounts, making secret deals. On 9.11.01 how many government officials made nice money betting that the airline stock would go down that day? They ran the put options thru the Chicago Mercantile Stock Exchange. It was exposed, documented, yet no one cares. If they do care, they have no power to change anything. When anyone in the govt. violates our laws, they just write new ones, make up new labels for people and things.
They talk out of both sides of their mouths, on the one side, they say these people are terrorists, on the other side, they say send them some weapons and money so they can run our proxy wars. We need to help these freedom fighters liberate all these foreign countries. No we don't. We need to let the countries determine their own destinies with their own people. We need to get out of that and only ONE candidate will do that, Donald J. Trump. The others all want to work with our partners. We are going to help Syria have elections in 18 months, can you believe that? I put the link in my thread. Just like we did in Iraq, where the people are now demanding a NEW cabinet.
We cannot run other countries, nor should we. All the other prospective candidates want to continue with the failed policies of the past, it's time to give someone else a chance, someone who believes in the principles this country was founded on, I don't think any of the others will do that. Give Trump the chance, at least he is decisive, if he makes a decision that is not good, he will recognize it and do something else. He will have a good staff of advisors, and if they don't have answers, they will be fired. He has the leadership qualities, he has foreign trade experience, and he is intelligent and motivated. He's already Rich, he doesn't have to vote because somebody is lining his pockets like the others.
[Edited on 3/12/2016 by gina]

No Trump is the Godly person. He doesn't want his own kingdom, he wants to lead a nation back to what it was before it got all screwed up.
Thanks Gina - I needed a good laugh. That is the funniest thing I've read in months.
But he does think that all Muslims are evil, so maybe in the world of 2016 that does make him a good Christian.

Hillary was friendly with Alinksy. One cannot say she agreed with all his tactics, but she was familiar with his ideas and strategies AND she did not walk away when she saw the book was dedicated to Lucifer. In my opinion, she should have walked away, had nothing further to do with anyone from that group, but she didn't, she embraced the training, and now she wants to be our President.
http://freebeacon.com/politics/the-hillary-letters/
America will have to choose between the Democratic vision for America and the Republicans. people need to know the differences in the points of view and the plans.
[Edited on 3/19/2016 by gina]

No Trump is the Godly person. He doesn't want his own kingdom, he wants to lead a nation back to what it was before it got all screwed up.
Thanks Gina - I needed a good laugh. That is the funniest thing I've read in months.
But he does think that all Muslims are evil, so maybe in the world of 2016 that does make him a good Christian.
I don't think that he thinks all Muslims are evil, I think he doesn't know any, and what he knows is basically what he has learned from our news and leaders. Everybody is afraid of Isis because if you don't agree with them, they really do not want to negotiate. He does not know there are good Muslims who know the truth and have followed what was given to them by the actual Prophet of Islam.
What is actually going on now is at least two groups vying for power and control, one of the groups wants to implement the New World Order. That is why the election is very important.
[Edited on 3/12/2016 by gina]

There are several emails floating around saying Trump will have an "accident" before he would be allowed to be the next President.

There are several emails floating around saying Trump will have an "accident" before he would be allowed to be the next President.
There are also emails telling me that some prince in Nigeria wants to give me all of his money.

There are several emails floating around saying Trump will have an "accident" before he would be allowed to be the next President.
Do you believe these e-mails to be credible, or did someone come up with this off of a wigi board?

There are several emails floating around saying Trump will have an "accident" before he would be allowed to be the next President.
Wouldn't come as huge surprise.

There are several emails floating around saying Trump will have an "accident" before he would be allowed to be the next President.
Do you remember JFK and his planning on upsetting the balance of power of the Federal Reserve Bank, which he planned to announce shortly before his assassination? Do you remember in one of the documentaries, Jackie exclaimed "they killed him". "They" not 'someone shot him', but "they. She knew people were threatening him and were after him.
There are people in power, and they will not allow other people to disrupt their worlds, their ways of life. If Trump is nominated or elected and the power elitists don't like it, they would do something in some clandestine way. They do it all the time to leaders of other countries. It is naïve to think that they would accept something they don't want, or to see policies implemented that interfere with their wealth, status, positions.

There are several emails floating around saying Trump will have an "accident" before he would be allowed to be the next President.
Do you believe these e-mails to be credible, or did someone come up with this off of a wigi board?
Can't speak about the emails, but given that there was a recent threat to his son, Eric, they sent him white powder and said next time it would be real (insinuating anthrax), it seems someone is serious about wanting Trump to quit his campaign, and we KNOW that more than one person has those beliefs (wanting him to quit), since 70 powerful people met privately off the coast of Georgia to discuss how to stop him, what should be done. (who, the same old group, most likely people that attend the Bilderberg conferences, the ones who rule the world).

There are several emails floating around saying Trump will have an "accident" before he would be allowed to be the next President.
There are also emails telling me that some prince in Nigeria wants to give me all of his money.
I can confirm that, I've seen them too.
[Edited on 3/20/2016 by gondicar]

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