No actually it didn't as I was just being snarky in response to Alloak's snarky comment. I know it is hard for you but try and keep up Mule. 😉
Apparently the Democrats are scared of The Tea Party because Obama used his IRS and Justice Department to violate their Constitutional Rights.
Ah yes, the Fox News way - if you repeat a lie enough times, people will believe it is true..............
Looks like Scott Walker also has a spending problem. So Alloak I think you will need another fork.
That is two of the top 3 GOP candidates you listed in your OP with the other being Ben Carson who hasn't prayer. Not very good at picking the horses my friend.
And they say Democrats have a spending problem. 😛
[Edited on 6/12/2015 by Bill_Graham]
Apparently the Democrats are scared of The Tea Party because Obama used his IRS and Justice Department to violate their Constitutional Rights.
Ah yes, the Fox News way - if you repeat a lie enough times, people will believe it is true..............
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It is called the facts as testified to during the Congressional hearings.
Remember those hearings?
The highlight was of course Lois Lerner’s pleading the Fifth Amendment and refusing to testify.
The Obama administration continues to spend hundreds of millions of dollars to cover-up the violations of Citizens Civil Rights:
IRS Created “Special Project Team” of “Hundreds of Lawyers” to Hide Information from Congress
By Jay Sekulow8 days ago
New testimony reveals that the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) used “hundreds of attorneys” to hide critical information from Congress’s investigation of the IRS targeting of conservatives.
According to new congressional bombshell testimony today, the IRS set up a previously unknown “special project team” comprised of “hundreds of attorneys,” including the IRS Chief Counsel (one of only two politically appointed positions at the IRS).
The “special project” this team was given? Concealing information from Congress.
The IRS’s director of privacy, governmental liaison, and disclosure division, Mary Howard, testified that soon after the IRS targeting scandal was revealed, the IRS “amassed hundreds of attorneys to go through the documents [requested by Congress] and redact them.”
Members of Congress have long complained that many of the documents produced by the IRS have been “redacted to the point of absurdity.”
Now we know why.
As the Washington Times reports:
Mary Howard, who also works as the head Freedom of Information Act officer in the IRS, told the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform that once the “special project team” was created and operational, she never saw requests for information.
“My understanding was that it started soon after the request came from Congress and other investigators asking for documents around this whole issue,” which she surmised meant around spring of 2013.
In other words, as soon as the IRS targeting scandal broke, the IRS set up a special team of hundreds of attorneys, including President Obama’s political head of the Chief Counsel’s office, to keep requests for publicly available information away from the person who would normally review those documents and turn them over to Congress and the public. That “special” team then overly redacted, delayed, and determined which documents it wanted Congress to see.
After setting up a special “group” to target and delay applications by Tea Party groups for tax-exempt status, the IRS set up a new “special project team” to delay and redact information from Congress about that targeting. Can you smell a cover-up?
When asked about these revelations and the ongoing investigation by Congress into the IRS and former top IRS official Lois Lerner’s involvement, Howard testified, “I think that Lois Lerner was the tip of the iceberg.”
This is what we at the ACLJ have been arguing all along. The targeting of conservative groups, the delays, the unconstitutionally abusive questions go far beyond former top IRS official Lois Lerner. We expect to learn more about Lerner’s role and the disappearance and later recovery of many of her emails later this month as the Inspector General for Tax Administration is due to issue its report.
Out of the spotlight for most of the investigation into the IRS targeting has been IRS Chief Counsel William Wilkins, who was appointed by President Obama. His office has been directly implicated in the delay of the initial “test” group of Tea Party applications and the formulation of numerous abusive and intrusive questions, including illegal requests for donor information.
As we have previously noted:
According to multiple IRS attorneys in D.C., including tax law specialist Carter Hull, who oversaw the review of the Tea Party cases, Lois Lerner, former Director at the Exempt Organizations Division, and her top advisor directed that certain Tea Party applications as part of a “test” group be sent to her office and IRS Chief Counsel for review in the winter of 2010-2011.
Chief Counsel’s office, after months more of delay, then demanded Mr. Hull make further inquiries of the Tea Party. According to the testimony, it was Chief Counsel’s office that was demanding to know more information about the conservative groups' activities “right before the [2010] election period. In other words, immediately before.”
In addition, the testimony indicates that the Chief Counsel’s office was heavily involved in preparing a template for handling these cases, something Mr. Hull testified was impractical “because these organizations, all of them are different. A template wouldn’t work.” Yet, as he testified, a template was prepared by someone in Chief Counsel’s office in conjunction with other tax law specialists. Even more disturbing he testified that after three years, IRS Chief Counsel’s office had not made a determination about these “test” Tea Party cases, even though in 2011, Mr. Hull had all the information he needed to make a recommendation as to their request for tax-exempt status.
Of course, when asked about all of this, IRS Chief Counsel Wilkins conveniently forgot. As the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee’s interim report noted:
[D]uring his transcribed interview with Committee staff, Wilkins stated “I don’t recall” 80 times in full or partial response to questions. His inability or unwillingness to recollect important aspects of the misconduct – after over five months to prepare and refresh his recollection – suggests a deliberate attempt to obfuscate his role.
Looks like Scott Walker also has a spending problem. So Alloak I think you will need another fork.
And they say Democrats have a spending problem. 😛
You've confused me here. Putting massive spending on a credit card and running up debt has been the GOP's way during my entire lifetime. This makes him the perfect GOP candidate. If he get's elected then we won't hear about debt or the deficit again until the next Democrat gets elected though.
Looks like Scott Walker also has a spending problem. So Alloak I think you will need another fork.
And they say Democrats have a spending problem. 😛
You've confused me here. Putting massive spending on a credit card and running up debt has been the GOP's way during my entire lifetime. This makes him the perfect GOP candidate. If he get's elected then we won't hear about debt or the deficit again until the next Democrat gets elected though.
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"owes between $10,000 and $100,000 to credit card companies"
Now there is some quality investigative reporting (guessing).
He always pull a John Kerry and beg the wife for some cash...
Apparently the Democrats are scared of The Tea Party because Obama used his IRS and Justice Department to violate their Constitutional Rights.
Ah yes, the Fox News way - if you repeat a lie enough times, people will believe it is true..............
___________________________________________________________
It is called the facts as testified to during the Congressional hearings.
Remember those hearings?
The highlight was of course Lois Lerner’s pleading the Fifth Amendment and refusing to testify.The Obama administration continues to spend hundreds of millions of dollars to cover-up the violations of Citizens Civil Rights:
IRS Created “Special Project Team” of “Hundreds of Lawyers” to Hide Information from Congress
By Jay Sekulow8 days agoNew testimony reveals that the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) used “hundreds of attorneys” to hide critical information from Congress’s investigation of the IRS targeting of conservatives.
According to new congressional bombshell testimony today, the IRS set up a previously unknown “special project team” comprised of “hundreds of attorneys,” including the IRS Chief Counsel (one of only two politically appointed positions at the IRS).The “special project” this team was given? Concealing information from Congress.
The IRS’s director of privacy, governmental liaison, and disclosure division, Mary Howard, testified that soon after the IRS targeting scandal was revealed, the IRS “amassed hundreds of attorneys to go through the documents [requested by Congress] and redact them.”
Members of Congress have long complained that many of the documents produced by the IRS have been “redacted to the point of absurdity.”Now we know why.
As the Washington Times reports:Mary Howard, who also works as the head Freedom of Information Act officer in the IRS, told the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform that once the “special project team” was created and operational, she never saw requests for information.
“My understanding was that it started soon after the request came from Congress and other investigators asking for documents around this whole issue,” which she surmised meant around spring of 2013.
In other words, as soon as the IRS targeting scandal broke, the IRS set up a special team of hundreds of attorneys, including President Obama’s political head of the Chief Counsel’s office, to keep requests for publicly available information away from the person who would normally review those documents and turn them over to Congress and the public. That “special” team then overly redacted, delayed, and determined which documents it wanted Congress to see.
After setting up a special “group” to target and delay applications by Tea Party groups for tax-exempt status, the IRS set up a new “special project team” to delay and redact information from Congress about that targeting. Can you smell a cover-up?
When asked about these revelations and the ongoing investigation by Congress into the IRS and former top IRS official Lois Lerner’s involvement, Howard testified, “I think that Lois Lerner was the tip of the iceberg.”
This is what we at the ACLJ have been arguing all along. The targeting of conservative groups, the delays, the unconstitutionally abusive questions go far beyond former top IRS official Lois Lerner. We expect to learn more about Lerner’s role and the disappearance and later recovery of many of her emails later this month as the Inspector General for Tax Administration is due to issue its report.
Out of the spotlight for most of the investigation into the IRS targeting has been IRS Chief Counsel William Wilkins, who was appointed by President Obama. His office has been directly implicated in the delay of the initial “test” group of Tea Party applications and the formulation of numerous abusive and intrusive questions, including illegal requests for donor information.
As we have previously noted:According to multiple IRS attorneys in D.C., including tax law specialist Carter Hull, who oversaw the review of the Tea Party cases, Lois Lerner, former Director at the Exempt Organizations Division, and her top advisor directed that certain Tea Party applications as part of a “test” group be sent to her office and IRS Chief Counsel for review in the winter of 2010-2011.
Chief Counsel’s office, after months more of delay, then demanded Mr. Hull make further inquiries of the Tea Party. According to the testimony, it was Chief Counsel’s office that was demanding to know more information about the conservative groups' activities “right before the [2010] election period. In other words, immediately before.”
In addition, the testimony indicates that the Chief Counsel’s office was heavily involved in preparing a template for handling these cases, something Mr. Hull testified was impractical “because these organizations, all of them are different. A template wouldn’t work.” Yet, as he testified, a template was prepared by someone in Chief Counsel’s office in conjunction with other tax law specialists. Even more disturbing he testified that after three years, IRS Chief Counsel’s office had not made a determination about these “test” Tea Party cases, even though in 2011, Mr. Hull had all the information he needed to make a recommendation as to their request for tax-exempt status.
Of course, when asked about all of this, IRS Chief Counsel Wilkins conveniently forgot. As the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee’s interim report noted:
[D]uring his transcribed interview with Committee staff, Wilkins stated “I don’t recall” 80 times in full or partial response to questions. His inability or unwillingness to recollect important aspects of the misconduct – after over five months to prepare and refresh his recollection – suggests a deliberate attempt to obfuscate his role.
Fact is that nothing has been proven that Obama used his IRS office to do anything......the "investigation" continues.............. and what 'constitutional rights' were violated?
Apparently the Democrats are scared of The Tea Party because Obama used his IRS and Justice Department to violate their Constitutional Rights.
Ah yes, the Fox News way - if you repeat a lie enough times, people will believe it is true..............
___________________________________________________________
It is called the facts as testified to during the Congressional hearings.
Remember those hearings?
The highlight was of course Lois Lerner’s pleading the Fifth Amendment and refusing to testify.The Obama administration continues to spend hundreds of millions of dollars to cover-up the violations of Citizens Civil Rights:
IRS Created “Special Project Team” of “Hundreds of Lawyers” to Hide Information from Congress
By Jay Sekulow8 days agoNew testimony reveals that the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) used “hundreds of attorneys” to hide critical information from Congress’s investigation of the IRS targeting of conservatives.
According to new congressional bombshell testimony today, the IRS set up a previously unknown “special project team” comprised of “hundreds of attorneys,” including the IRS Chief Counsel (one of only two politically appointed positions at the IRS).The “special project” this team was given? Concealing information from Congress.
The IRS’s director of privacy, governmental liaison, and disclosure division, Mary Howard, testified that soon after the IRS targeting scandal was revealed, the IRS “amassed hundreds of attorneys to go through the documents [requested by Congress] and redact them.”
Members of Congress have long complained that many of the documents produced by the IRS have been “redacted to the point of absurdity.”Now we know why.
As the Washington Times reports:Mary Howard, who also works as the head Freedom of Information Act officer in the IRS, told the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform that once the “special project team” was created and operational, she never saw requests for information.
“My understanding was that it started soon after the request came from Congress and other investigators asking for documents around this whole issue,” which she surmised meant around spring of 2013.
In other words, as soon as the IRS targeting scandal broke, the IRS set up a special team of hundreds of attorneys, including President Obama’s political head of the Chief Counsel’s office, to keep requests for publicly available information away from the person who would normally review those documents and turn them over to Congress and the public. That “special” team then overly redacted, delayed, and determined which documents it wanted Congress to see.
After setting up a special “group” to target and delay applications by Tea Party groups for tax-exempt status, the IRS set up a new “special project team” to delay and redact information from Congress about that targeting. Can you smell a cover-up?
When asked about these revelations and the ongoing investigation by Congress into the IRS and former top IRS official Lois Lerner’s involvement, Howard testified, “I think that Lois Lerner was the tip of the iceberg.”
This is what we at the ACLJ have been arguing all along. The targeting of conservative groups, the delays, the unconstitutionally abusive questions go far beyond former top IRS official Lois Lerner. We expect to learn more about Lerner’s role and the disappearance and later recovery of many of her emails later this month as the Inspector General for Tax Administration is due to issue its report.
Out of the spotlight for most of the investigation into the IRS targeting has been IRS Chief Counsel William Wilkins, who was appointed by President Obama. His office has been directly implicated in the delay of the initial “test” group of Tea Party applications and the formulation of numerous abusive and intrusive questions, including illegal requests for donor information.
As we have previously noted:According to multiple IRS attorneys in D.C., including tax law specialist Carter Hull, who oversaw the review of the Tea Party cases, Lois Lerner, former Director at the Exempt Organizations Division, and her top advisor directed that certain Tea Party applications as part of a “test” group be sent to her office and IRS Chief Counsel for review in the winter of 2010-2011.
Chief Counsel’s office, after months more of delay, then demanded Mr. Hull make further inquiries of the Tea Party. According to the testimony, it was Chief Counsel’s office that was demanding to know more information about the conservative groups' activities “right before the [2010] election period. In other words, immediately before.”
In addition, the testimony indicates that the Chief Counsel’s office was heavily involved in preparing a template for handling these cases, something Mr. Hull testified was impractical “because these organizations, all of them are different. A template wouldn’t work.” Yet, as he testified, a template was prepared by someone in Chief Counsel’s office in conjunction with other tax law specialists. Even more disturbing he testified that after three years, IRS Chief Counsel’s office had not made a determination about these “test” Tea Party cases, even though in 2011, Mr. Hull had all the information he needed to make a recommendation as to their request for tax-exempt status.
Of course, when asked about all of this, IRS Chief Counsel Wilkins conveniently forgot. As the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee’s interim report noted:
[D]uring his transcribed interview with Committee staff, Wilkins stated “I don’t recall” 80 times in full or partial response to questions. His inability or unwillingness to recollect important aspects of the misconduct – after over five months to prepare and refresh his recollection – suggests a deliberate attempt to obfuscate his role.
Fact is that nothing has been proven that Obama used his IRS office to do anything......the "investigation" continues.............. and what 'constitutional rights' were violated?
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The fact that you are unaware says it all.
Obviously you didn't watch the televised hearings and are incapable of reading the Congressional Record.
BTW - The Obama administration and The FBI lawyer's have been admonished by the federal judge hearing the lawsuit cases for dragging their feet in submitting documents to the plaintiffs and the court.
You'll need to read the court transcripts because the main stream media won't report the news in this case. The case is in The District of Columbia Federal Court.
So it's not over, right? Dragging your feet isn't the same as what you state he did, right?
So it's not over, right? Dragging your feet isn't the same as what you state he did, right?
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UPDATE:
The judge is now pissed with the IRS lawyer and has run out of patience.
JUNE 08, 2015 - U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia
Judge Emmet Sullivan of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia granted a Judicial Watch request to issue an order requiring the IRS to provide answers by June 12, 2015, on the status of the Lois Lerner “lost” emails.
Putting massive spending on a credit card and running up debt has been the GOP's way during my entire lifetime. This makes him the perfect GOP candidate.
Always amusing to see Democrats chiding the GOP about debt. Who ran it from $9 Trillion to $18 Trillion in six years?!
Putting massive spending on a credit card and running up debt has been the GOP's way during my entire lifetime. This makes him the perfect GOP candidate.
Always amusing to see Democrats chiding the GOP about debt. Who ran it from $9 Trillion to $18 Trillion in six years?!
Payments for the wars that weren't included in the previous president's budget. But you knew that.
Putting massive spending on a credit card and running up debt has been the GOP's way during my entire lifetime. This makes him the perfect GOP candidate.
Always amusing to see Democrats chiding the GOP about debt. Who ran it from $9 Trillion to $18 Trillion in six years?!
Payments for the wars that weren't included in the previous president's budget. But you knew that.
Along with lower revenue due to the Bush tax cuts and the terrible economy. I know you saw the graphic of new spending for all the president's since Nixon. Do I need to post it again?
Putting massive spending on a credit card and running up debt has been the GOP's way during my entire lifetime. This makes him the perfect GOP candidate.
Always amusing to see Democrats chiding the GOP about debt. Who ran it from $9 Trillion to $18 Trillion in six years?!
Payments for the wars that weren't included in the previous president's budget. But you knew that.
Sure it was. Try again. Not that I'm surprised that the debt doubling in Obama's six years would be Bush's fault. Shocking.
[Edited on 6/13/2015 by alloak41]
In the interest of the establishment of historical fact. The Iraq War was funded by a series of supplemental spending bills approved by Congress. While it's true this spending was not reflected in each years deficit figure, it WAS reflected in each year's National Debt total.
Spending on the Iraq War was not "off the books." However, it was "off budget."
Accuracy.
[Edited on 6/13/2015 by alloak41]
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/donald-trump-campaign-offered-actors-803161
Donald Trump Campaign Offered Actors $50 to Cheer for Him at Presidential Announcement
I'm interested in hearing more from Lindsey Graham. I admire what I just heard him say about the confederate flag in SC, and his vision for the future. He sounds like he has a very strong personality, and an extensive military background, and might be able to work from both sides of aisle. We'll see about that though in the upcoming debates. I hope the people respond to him.
I'm interested in hearing more from Lindsey Graham. I admire what I just heard him say about the confederate flag in SC, and his vision for the future. He sounds like he has a very strong personality, and an extensive military background, and might be able to work from both sides of aisle. We'll see about that though in the upcoming debates. I hope the people respond to him.
Certainly has a good amount of experience and speaks well. My biggest problem is he's a perpetual war hawk.
He may be one of the sharper candidates in the field, but I'm not sure you'll see him on a debate stage, as the numbers of candidates will be limited. It's early, and things change, but he's not polling very well. Better that a Trump has high numbers - that speaks volumes. 
http://www.suffolk.edu/news/60149.php#.VZAPN0a1VdA
Chris Christie officially announces his candidacy. The GOP Debates can't come fast enough for me!
What are they up to, 16 candidates now?
Actually, according to this website there are 28 declared GOP candidates and several more that are "probable" or have an exploratory committee. Is that right, 28?? Wow, must be some kind of record!
http://2016.republican-candidates.org/#Declared-Republican-Candidates
Chris Christie officially announces his candidacy. The GOP Debates can't come fast enough for me!
Do you think they will be entertaining? You haven't weighed in on that yet.
As of right now I am so totally uninspired by any of the candidates I could care less. Hoping someone stands out as the process moves on.
As of right now I am so totally uninspired by any of the candidates I could care less. Hoping someone stands out as the process moves on.
I've felt that way for over 30 years now. Unfortunately the ones that stand out are either unelectable or too smart to run.
Chris Christie officially announces his candidacy. The GOP Debates can't come fast enough for me!
Do you think they will be entertaining? You haven't weighed in on that yet.
Sorry Alloak but this promises to get better and better with each new candidate that declares. I am just wondering how this will work as the time the debates start a good portion of the GOP may have declared. how will they cull the herd for the debates.
Has there been a POTUS election in recent memory where so many people declared for their party's nomination? I find this all fascinating.
Chris Christie officially announces his candidacy. The GOP Debates can't come fast enough for me!
Do you think they will be entertaining? You haven't weighed in on that yet.
Sorry Alloak but this promises to get better and better with each new candidate that declares. I am just wondering how this will work as the time the debates start a good portion of the GOP may have declared. how will they cull the herd for the debates.
Has there been a POTUS election in recent memory where so many people declared for their party's nomination? I find this all fascinating.
It's going to be interesting. I can't remember anywhere close to this amount of declared candidates. I'd imagine they'll use polling data to cut down to the top five or six for the debates. I just hope Trump makes the cut. He's a gas.
I saw a Fox News poll today that has the top three shaking out like so...
1. Bush
2. Trump
3. Carson
I saw a Fox News poll today that has the top three shaking out like so...
1. Bush
2. Trump
3. Carson
That is a entertaining debate team right there. I imagine Carson and Trump going toe to toe with Bush standing there looking shell shocked and wondering what is happening. I would to want to be the moderator for that one.
I saw a Fox News poll today that has the top three shaking out like so...
1. Bush
2. Trump
3. Carson
Fox has it pretty much as Bush and everyone else, but they are the outlier in terms of the order.
My guy tells me Rubio will be the one.
The absolute dream matchup as far as pure entertainment would be Sanders vs Trump. The blow hard capitalist against the grouchy socialist. Now that would be fun!
Do you think they will be entertaining? You haven't weighed in on that yet.
Entertaining? Yes.
Substantive? Absolutely not. A waste of time and money. BS questions and sound bite answers.
