If it wasn't for the baggage associated with his brother, I think Bush could win the general election. He could generate lots of crossover appeal and he is still popular in Florida, a battleground state with lots of electoral votes. I'm just not sure if he can get past W's legacy.

Ben Carson doesn't have a chance. He has no political experience and he wants to jump in to run for president of the United States for his first election. Nope, ain't going to happen.

I could see Rubio winning the nomination, and may be one of the stronger potential candidates in a general election.

Walker, I don't see any chance of him winning the general election.

Perry - Not a chance. He really embarrassed himself last time. He'll do it again.

Christie - Potential cross over appeal in the general election, but he won't win the nomination because he won't pander the the religious right.

Most of the rest of the field are too deep into the looney bin to be taken seriously.

Interesting to read the liberals here trashing potential Republican candidates (yes, this is the thread) but the liberals never do say who they support in the democrat party.

Are the liberals for anyone other than Hillary, the no-resume, no professional experience, no accomplishment, scandal laden habitual liar?

If it wasn't for the baggage associated with his brother, I think Bush could win the general election. He could generate lots of crossover appeal and he is still popular in Florida, a battleground state with lots of electoral votes. I'm just not sure if he can get past W's legacy.

Lord. I hope not. If Jeb gets the nomination, be prepared to see Dubya's picture on the
TV screen 24/7. Jeb would lose.

If it wasn't for the baggage associated with his brother, I think Bush could win the general election. He could generate lots of crossover appeal and he is still popular in Florida, a battleground state with lots of electoral votes. I'm just not sure if he can get past W's legacy.

Lord. I hope not. If Jeb gets the nomination, be prepared to see Dubya's picture on the
TV screen 24/7. Jeb would lose.

I think that would have limited shelf life once he was in the national spotlight.

Both parties struggle with getting their base to turn out when it counts. That's another HUGE factor.

If it wasn't for the baggage associated with his brother, I think Bush could win the general election. He could generate lots of crossover appeal and he is still popular in Florida, a battleground state with lots of electoral votes. I'm just not sure if he can get past W's legacy.

Lord. I hope not. If Jeb gets the nomination, be prepared to see Dubya's picture on the
TV screen 24/7. Jeb would lose.

I think that would have limited shelf life once he was in the national spotlight.

I don't know man it would be pretty hard to get out of his brothers shadow.

If it wasn't for the baggage associated with his brother, I think Bush could win the general election. He could generate lots of crossover appeal and he is still popular in Florida, a battleground state with lots of electoral votes. I'm just not sure if he can get past W's legacy.

Lord. I hope not. If Jeb gets the nomination, be prepared to see Dubya's picture on the
TV screen 24/7. Jeb would lose.

That's why I said "If it weren't for the baggage associated with his brother..." I guess we agree on something here. That said, if there is something to be learned about the 2004 and 2012 elections, running a campaign purely on the negative assuming that the other candidate is too unpopular to win is a losing strategy.

If it wasn't for the baggage associated with his brother, I think Bush could win the general election. He could generate lots of crossover appeal and he is still popular in Florida, a battleground state with lots of electoral votes. I'm just not sure if he can get past W's legacy.

Lord. I hope not. If Jeb gets the nomination, be prepared to see Dubya's picture on the
TV screen 24/7. Jeb would lose.

I think that would have limited shelf life once he was in the national spotlight.

I don't know man it would be pretty hard to get out of his brothers shadow.

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That "shadow" is cast only by liberals and the left-wing media.
The rest of the country is very proud of George W. Bush for standing up and going after those who attacked The U.S.

Aw, man.

This hurts.

This really, really hurts.

I'm now convinced that MacKenzie was right.

(((shudder)))

Ben Carson doesn't have a chance. He has no political experience and he wants to jump in to run for president of the United States for his first election. Nope, ain't going to happen.

Oh, I know it looks like a long shot. Question is, could he do the job? I think he could. The
Presidency is about team building, and I have no doubt he could surround himself with
the necessary brain trust.

I just have a feeling about the guy. Aside from the fact that I seem to agree with almost
everything he says, he just exudes a type of fatherly wisdom that would benefit the nation.
He seems good natured. level headed, patient. He may lack political experience, but part of
me says it's time someone like that should get a chance.

If it wasn't for the baggage associated with his brother, I think Bush could win the general election. He could generate lots of crossover appeal and he is still popular in Florida, a battleground state with lots of electoral votes. I'm just not sure if he can get past W's legacy.

Lord. I hope not. If Jeb gets the nomination, be prepared to see Dubya's picture on the
TV screen 24/7. Jeb would lose.

I think that would have limited shelf life once he was in the national spotlight.

I don't know man it would be pretty hard to get out of his brothers shadow.

Better speaker, better on his feet, smarter on policy. I'm not saying that W wouldn't be a factor, but I think it would be limited.

Good God.

I'm sticking up for a Bush.

😛

Ben Carson doesn't have a chance. He has no political experience and he wants to jump in to run for president of the United States for his first election. Nope, ain't going to happen.

Oh, I know it looks like a long shot. Question is, could he do the job? I think he could. The
Presidency is about team building, and I have no doubt he could surround himself with
the necessary brain trust.

I just have a feeling about the guy. Aside from the fact that I seem to agree with almost
everything he says, he just exudes a type of fatherly wisdom that would benefit the nation.
He seems good natured. level headed, patient. He may lack political experience, but part of
me says it's time someone like that should get a chance.

The primaries, though...you know how much of a bloodbath sh-t-show that is...he better have the right campaign team from the get-go. Getting to the general is gonna be tough.

Good God.

I'm sticking up for a Bush.

😛

If it wasn't for the baggage associated with his brother, I think Bush could win the general election. He could generate lots of crossover appeal and he is still popular in Florida, a battleground state with lots of electoral votes. I'm just not sure if he can get past W's legacy.

Lord. I hope not. If Jeb gets the nomination, be prepared to see Dubya's picture on the
TV screen 24/7. Jeb would lose.

I think that would have limited shelf life once he was in the national spotlight.

I don't know man it would be pretty hard to get out of his brothers shadow.

_______________________________________________________________

That "shadow" is cast only by liberals and the left-wing media.
The rest of the country is very proud of George W. Bush for standing up and going after those who attacked The U.S.

Wow, you are delusional. The man destroyed the US economy and nearly bankrupted us by going into an expensive unnecessary war with a country that had nothing to do with 9-11. If it wasn't for that unnecessary war, there would be no threat from ISIS. It's completely obvious you have no idea how mainstream Americans feel about anything. Oh, and Bush wasn't the one who got the man behind the attack on the US.

Good God.

I'm sticking up for a Bush.

😛

...AND you're convinced MacKenzie was right?

are you okay? Maybe you should lie down a while...

I don't agree with Ben Carson on politics, but he's clearly very intelligent and might possess all the skills needed to successfully run this country. But how on Earth will conservatives justify him as a serious candidate when they spent the last 6 years bashing Obama for his inexperience in politics?

If it wasn't for the baggage associated with his brother, I think Bush could win the general election. He could generate lots of crossover appeal and he is still popular in Florida, a battleground state with lots of electoral votes. I'm just not sure if he can get past W's legacy.

Lord. I hope not. If Jeb gets the nomination, be prepared to see Dubya's picture on the
TV screen 24/7. Jeb would lose.

I think that would have limited shelf life once he was in the national spotlight.

I don't know man it would be pretty hard to get out of his brothers shadow.

_______________________________________________________________

That "shadow" is cast only by liberals and the left-wing media.
The rest of the country is very proud of George W. Bush for standing up and going after those who attacked The U.S.

Wow, you are delusional. The man destroyed the US economy and nearly bankrupted us by going into an expensive unnecessary war with a country that had nothing to do with 9-11. If it wasn't for that unnecessary war, there would be no threat from ISIS. It's completely obvious you have no idea how mainstream Americans feel about anything. Oh, and Bush wasn't the one who got the man behind the attack on the US.

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What a load of crap.

War is expensive but necessary.
The economy was doing fine under President Bush until Reid took over The Senate and Pelosi took over The House. After that they spent money like it was free.
It was the failures of The Clinton administration that allowed the Islamic Extremist Terrorists to attack us on 9/11.
Your “unnecessary war” is the standard and weak liberal line.
Besides if obama had done his job and secured a SOFA, ISIS would have never been able to rise in Iraq. No, obama pulled out his cowardice act and cut and ran.
Obama didn’t get “the man behind the attack on the US”. That was done by Seal Team Six executing a plan developed under The Bush Administration.

If it wasn't for the baggage associated with his brother, I think Bush could win the general election. He could generate lots of crossover appeal and he is still popular in Florida, a battleground state with lots of electoral votes. I'm just not sure if he can get past W's legacy.

Lord. I hope not. If Jeb gets the nomination, be prepared to see Dubya's picture on the
TV screen 24/7. Jeb would lose.

I think that would have limited shelf life once he was in the national spotlight.

I don't know man it would be pretty hard to get out of his brothers shadow.

_______________________________________________________________

That "shadow" is cast only by liberals and the left-wing media.
The rest of the country is very proud of George W. Bush for standing up and going after those who attacked The U.S.

Wow, you are delusional. The man destroyed the US economy and nearly bankrupted us by going into an expensive unnecessary war with a country that had nothing to do with 9-11. If it wasn't for that unnecessary war, there would be no threat from ISIS. It's completely obvious you have no idea how mainstream Americans feel about anything. Oh, and Bush wasn't the one who got the man behind the attack on the US.

_______________________________________________________________________

What a load of crap.

War is expensive but necessary.
The economy was doing fine under President Bush until Reid took over The Senate and Pelosi took over The House. After that they spent money like it was free.
It was the failures of The Clinton administration that allowed the Islamic Extremist Terrorists to attack us on 9/11.
Your “unnecessary war” is the standard and weak liberal line.
Besides if obama had done his job and secured a SOFA, ISIS would have never been able to rise in Iraq. No, obama pulled out his cowardice act and cut and ran.
Obama didn’t get “the man behind the attack on the US”. That was done by Seal Team Six executing a plan developed under The Bush Administration.

Most of your posts are just plain wrong, but I want to congratulate you. You have outdone yourself with this rant. It is classic - one for the ages. There is so much factually incorrect and delusional with your post. I'd take it apart, but why waste the time. I'd realize more intellectual stimulus my sticking my head into a blender. Keep up the good work.

What a load of crap.

War is expensive but necessary.
The economy was doing fine under President Bush until Reid took over The Senate and Pelosi took over The House. After that they spent money like it was free.
It was the failures of The Clinton administration that allowed the Islamic Extremist Terrorists to attack us on 9/11.
Your “unnecessary war” is the standard and weak liberal line.
Besides if obama had done his job and secured a SOFA, ISIS would have never been able to rise in Iraq. No, obama pulled out his cowardice act and cut and ran.
Obama didn’t get “the man behind the attack on the US”. That was done by Seal Team Six executing a plan developed under The Bush Administration.

Most of your posts are just plain wrong, but I want to congratulate you. You have outdone yourself with this rant. It is classic - one for the ages. There is so much factually incorrect and delusional with your post. I'd take it apart, but why waste the time. I'd realize more intellectual stimulus my sticking my head into a blender. Keep up the good work.

Yeah... that rant... wow... just... wow.

I'm stunned. Gobsmacked. Wow.

Ìf the shadow cast over Bush is only by liberals and the left-wing media, and if the rest of the country is proud of Bush, then why is Alloak scared of Jeb getting the nomination because "Dubya's picture on the TV screen 24/7. Jeb would lose." It certainly isn't because Alloak is liberal. It's because Alloak is smart enough to know that the Bush name is still poison and that most of the country certainly isn't proud of him.

If it wasn't for the baggage associated with his brother, I think Bush could win the general election. He could generate lots of crossover appeal and he is still popular in Florida, a battleground state with lots of electoral votes. I'm just not sure if he can get past W's legacy.

Lord. I hope not. If Jeb gets the nomination, be prepared to see Dubya's picture on the
TV screen 24/7. Jeb would lose.

I think that would have limited shelf life once he was in the national spotlight.

I don't know man it would be pretty hard to get out of his brothers shadow.

_______________________________________________________________

That "shadow" is cast only by liberals and the left-wing media.
The rest of the country is very proud of George W. Bush for standing up and going after those who attacked The U.S.

Wow, you are delusional. The man destroyed the US economy and nearly bankrupted us by going into an expensive unnecessary war with a country that had nothing to do with 9-11. If it wasn't for that unnecessary war, there would be no threat from ISIS. It's completely obvious you have no idea how mainstream Americans feel about anything. Oh, and Bush wasn't the one who got the man behind the attack on the US.

_______________________________________________________________________

What a load of crap.

War is expensive but necessary.
The economy was doing fine under President Bush until Reid took over The Senate and Pelosi took over The House. After that they spent money like it was free.
It was the failures of The Clinton administration that allowed the Islamic Extremist Terrorists to attack us on 9/11.
Your “unnecessary war” is the standard and weak liberal line.
Besides if obama had done his job and secured a SOFA, ISIS would have never been able to rise in Iraq. No, obama pulled out his cowardice act and cut and ran.
Obama didn’t get “the man behind the attack on the US”. That was done by Seal Team Six executing a plan developed under The Bush Administration.

Most of your posts are just plain wrong, but I want to congratulate you. You have outdone yourself with this rant. It is classic - one for the ages. There is so much factually incorrect and delusional with your post. I'd take it apart, but why waste the time. I'd realize more intellectual stimulus my sticking my head into a blender. Keep up the good work.

____________________________________________________________________

I'm sure you see it that way.
You are wrong but hey when you see things thru a liberal filter the facts change right before your eyes.

What a load of crap.

War is expensive but necessary.
The economy was doing fine under President Bush until Reid took over The Senate and Pelosi took over The House. After that they spent money like it was free.
It was the failures of The Clinton administration that allowed the Islamic Extremist Terrorists to attack us on 9/11.
Your “unnecessary war” is the standard and weak liberal line.
Besides if obama had done his job and secured a SOFA, ISIS would have never been able to rise in Iraq. No, obama pulled out his cowardice act and cut and ran.
Obama didn’t get “the man behind the attack on the US”. That was done by Seal Team Six executing a plan developed under The Bush Administration.

Most of your posts are just plain wrong, but I want to congratulate you. You have outdone yourself with this rant. It is classic - one for the ages. There is so much factually incorrect and delusional with your post. I'd take it apart, but why waste the time. I'd realize more intellectual stimulus my sticking my head into a blender. Keep up the good work.

Yeah... that rant... wow... just... wow.

I'm stunned. Gobsmacked. Wow.

Muleboy cannot separate fact from rhetoric.

What a load of crap.

War is expensive but necessary.
The economy was doing fine under President Bush until Reid took over The Senate and Pelosi took over The House. After that they spent money like it was free.
It was the failures of The Clinton administration that allowed the Islamic Extremist Terrorists to attack us on 9/11.
Your “unnecessary war” is the standard and weak liberal line.
Besides if obama had done his job and secured a SOFA, ISIS would have never been able to rise in Iraq. No, obama pulled out his cowardice act and cut and ran.
Obama didn’t get “the man behind the attack on the US”. That was done by Seal Team Six executing a plan developed under The Bush Administration.

Most of your posts are just plain wrong, but I want to congratulate you. You have outdone yourself with this rant. It is classic - one for the ages. There is so much factually incorrect and delusional with your post. I'd take it apart, but why waste the time. I'd realize more intellectual stimulus my sticking my head into a blender. Keep up the good work.

Yeah... that rant... wow... just... wow.

I'm stunned. Gobsmacked. Wow.

Muleboy cannot separate fact from rhetoric.

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You wouldn't know a fact if it bit you in your a$$.
Basic research eludes you.

What a load of crap.

War is expensive but necessary.
The economy was doing fine under President Bush until Reid took over The Senate and Pelosi took over The House. After that they spent money like it was free.
It was the failures of The Clinton administration that allowed the Islamic Extremist Terrorists to attack us on 9/11.
Your “unnecessary war” is the standard and weak liberal line.
Besides if obama had done his job and secured a SOFA, ISIS would have never been able to rise in Iraq. No, obama pulled out his cowardice act and cut and ran.
Obama didn’t get “the man behind the attack on the US”. That was done by Seal Team Six executing a plan developed under The Bush Administration.

Most of your posts are just plain wrong, but I want to congratulate you. You have outdone yourself with this rant. It is classic - one for the ages. There is so much factually incorrect and delusional with your post. I'd take it apart, but why waste the time. I'd realize more intellectual stimulus my sticking my head into a blender. Keep up the good work.

Yeah... that rant... wow... just... wow.

I'm stunned. Gobsmacked. Wow.

Muleboy cannot separate fact from rhetoric.

_____________________________________________________________

You wouldn't know a fact if it bit you in your a$$.
Basic research eludes you.

You are a joke. The next time you research something will be the first. 😛

Muleboy is like the other trolls that have gone before him (and he probably is one of them)..... he's slightly entertaining until the crazy train starts to run off the tracks...........

His revisionist history rant was off the rails funny.

And so untrue it should have its own Snopes story.

Now that is funny.

The liberals, having no position of their own, trash potential Republican candidates while supporting none of their own and attack me.
Probably because it is easier to criticize that to craft an idea or argument.

Y’all should form your own little special interest group.
You are certainly a minority so obama would give you money!

The republicans must nominate a true conservative that has the conviction to stand up for those values or they will lose again. It is funny the democrats and the media always try to push a "moderate" candidate and then will trash him when he gets the nomination just as they did to Romney. A moderate candidate is a Rhino and you when you put a democrat against a democrat light the democrat will win all the time. I really do not believe the republicans will nominate Jeb.

The republicans must nominate a true conservative that has the conviction to stand up for those values or they will lose again.

The question is, though...what exactly are those values and will that appeal enough of the electorate to win?

The problem with ideological litmus tests is that they are exclusionary by their very nature. How many voters can a party be willing to sacrifice by staying rigid to convictions? On the flip side, how many voters these days are willing to vote against party lines if the situation calls for it? Strict party line voting happens now more than ever.

"I might vote for __________" is a whole lot better than "I'm NOT voting for __________"

It's pretty clear that we are politically divided and will say so for quite some time. Anyone from either party claiming to be a uniter or agent of change is speaking in platitudes only. Nothing is going to bring the left and right together. Nothing.

It's all about winning elections, and, if there's one thing that Karl Rove taught everyone...winning elections has nothing to do with governing.