no comment from anyone on the Falcons pumping in crowd noise?
yeah I know, they're the Falcons, who cares
no comment from anyone on the Falcons pumping in crowd noise?
yeah I know, they're the Falcons, who cares
It's not that no one cares, it's that it didn't help them anyway. 😛
Cleveland Browns facing sanctions for texting during games.
WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE?????
😛 
Cleveland Browns facing sanctions for texting during games.
WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE?????
😛
Textgate doesn't roll off the tongue nearly as well as Deflategate.
Cleveland Browns facing sanctions for texting during games.
WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE?????
😛
Nobody cares if a 7-9 team cheats.
On a sad note for Packer fans DT Letroy Guion arrested for felony ganja possession in Florida.
Don't see him being resigned after this. Too bad as he played well for us this year.
Cleveland Browns facing sanctions for texting during games.
WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE?????
😛
Nobody cares if a 7-9 team cheats.
On a sad note for Packer fans DT Letroy Guion arrested for felony ganja possession in Florida.
Don't see him being resigned after this. Too bad as he played well for us this year.
Should anyone care if Aaron Rodgers over inflates his footballs and hopes the refs look the other way or just don't catch it? 😉 😛
Cleveland Browns facing sanctions for texting during games.
WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE?????
😛
Nobody cares if a 7-9 team cheats.
On a sad note for Packer fans DT Letroy Guion arrested for felony ganja possession in Florida.
Don't see him being resigned after this. Too bad as he played well for us this year.
Should anyone care if Aaron Rodgers over inflates his footballs and hopes the refs look the other way or just don't catch it? 😉 😛
If he broke the rules he should be held accountable. The difference is I would not complain that he was being unfairly picked on if he was cheating. 😉 😛
Cleveland Browns facing sanctions for texting during games.
WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE?????
😛
Nobody cares if a 7-9 team cheats.
On a sad note for Packer fans DT Letroy Guion arrested for felony ganja possession in Florida.
Don't see him being resigned after this. Too bad as he played well for us this year.
Should anyone care if Aaron Rodgers over inflates his footballs and hopes the refs look the other way or just don't catch it? 😉 😛
If he broke the rules he should be held accountable. The difference is I would not complain that he was being unfairly picked on if he was cheating. 😉 😛
Well, according to Phil Simms he came right out and said he does it, so I guess the NFL should investigate, right? But we know that won't ever happen (nor should it) so you won't have any reason to complain.
Cleveland Browns facing sanctions for texting during games.
WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE?????
😛
Nobody cares if a 7-9 team cheats.
On a sad note for Packer fans DT Letroy Guion arrested for felony ganja possession in Florida.
Don't see him being resigned after this. Too bad as he played well for us this year.
Should anyone care if Aaron Rodgers over inflates his footballs and hopes the refs look the other way or just don't catch it? 😉 😛
If he broke the rules he should be held accountable. The difference is I would not complain that he was being unfairly picked on if he was cheating. 😉 😛
Well, according to Phil Simms he came right out and said he does it, so I guess the NFL should investigate, right? But we know that won't ever happen (nor should it) so you won't have any reason to complain.
Not sure what your point is. If you were trying to get me to defend Rodgers you failed as I believe if you do the crime you should do the time.
Cleveland Browns facing sanctions for texting during games.
WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE?????
😛
Nobody cares if a 7-9 team cheats.
On a sad note for Packer fans DT Letroy Guion arrested for felony ganja possession in Florida.
Don't see him being resigned after this. Too bad as he played well for us this year.
Should anyone care if Aaron Rodgers over inflates his footballs and hopes the refs look the other way or just don't catch it? 😉 😛
If he broke the rules he should be held accountable. The difference is I would not complain that he was being unfairly picked on if he was cheating. 😉 😛
Well, according to Phil Simms he came right out and said he does it, so I guess the NFL should investigate, right? But we know that won't ever happen (nor should it) so you won't have any reason to complain.
Not sure what your point is. If you were trying to get me to defend Rodgers you failed as I believe if you do the crime you should do the time.
Really just trying to point the ridiculousness of how badly this entire thing with football air pressure was handled by the NFL and the media.
Cleveland Browns facing sanctions for texting during games.
WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE?????
😛
Nobody cares if a 7-9 team cheats.
On a sad note for Packer fans DT Letroy Guion arrested for felony ganja possession in Florida.
Don't see him being resigned after this. Too bad as he played well for us this year.
Should anyone care if Aaron Rodgers over inflates his footballs and hopes the refs look the other way or just don't catch it? 😉 😛
If he broke the rules he should be held accountable. The difference is I would not complain that he was being unfairly picked on if he was cheating. 😉 😛
Well, according to Phil Simms he came right out and said he does it, so I guess the NFL should investigate, right? But we know that won't ever happen (nor should it) so you won't have any reason to complain.
Not sure what your point is. If you were trying to get me to defend Rodgers you failed as I believe if you do the crime you should do the time.
Really just trying to point the ridiculousness of how badly this entire thing with football air pressure was handled by the NFL and the media.
No argument from me but Bill will always come under extra scrutiny because of his past offenses and rule stretching. It is also magnified because the Pats were going to the SB. Like I said nobody cares if a losing team breaks a minor rule. It ends up being back page news.
Cleveland Browns facing sanctions for texting during games.
WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE?????
😛
Nobody cares if a 7-9 team cheats.
On a sad note for Packer fans DT Letroy Guion arrested for felony ganja possession in Florida.
Don't see him being resigned after this. Too bad as he played well for us this year.
Should anyone care if Aaron Rodgers over inflates his footballs and hopes the refs look the other way or just don't catch it? 😉 😛
If he broke the rules he should be held accountable. The difference is I would not complain that he was being unfairly picked on if he was cheating. 😉 😛
Well, according to Phil Simms he came right out and said he does it, so I guess the NFL should investigate, right? But we know that won't ever happen (nor should it) so you won't have any reason to complain.
Not sure what your point is. If you were trying to get me to defend Rodgers you failed as I believe if you do the crime you should do the time.
Really just trying to point the ridiculousness of how badly this entire thing with football air pressure was handled by the NFL and the media.
It was the media more than the NFL. There has been way too much speculating in the media and way too many comments from retired QB's who have nothing to do with New England. As I understand it, prior to the Super Bowl the NFL had not interviewed any of the coaches or players so as not to interfere with the teams preparation. They had only talked to support staff who were not involved in the playing of the game.
Cleveland Browns facing sanctions for texting during games.
WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE?????
😛
Nobody cares if a 7-9 team cheats.
On a sad note for Packer fans DT Letroy Guion arrested for felony ganja possession in Florida.
Don't see him being resigned after this. Too bad as he played well for us this year.
I was being sarcastic. 
as usual.
Just when I thought this line of thinking had played itself out, this morning I read that newly elected HOFer Charles Haley has told ESPN that he has "lost all respect" for Brady and says all his Superbowls are now tainted because of "deflatedate".
In the meantime, now the drip-drip-drip of info coming from "NFL sources" is starting to go the other way, leading to the theory that the Colts may have intentionally misled the NFL by taking air out of the ball that was intercepted in order to make a cheating claim. Not sure I believe that either, although the article below makes an argument that is every bit as credible (or not) as what was written/said about BB and TB and the Patriots in the 2 weeks leading up to the Superbowl (which the Patriots won, in case you hadn't heard).
Personally, after everything we've heard from Kraft and Belichick and Brady and the NFL, I do not believe for one second that the Patriots had anything to do with intentionally deflating footballs, and I do believe that the investigation will conclude this to be the case. As for whether the Colts did anything underhanded to start this entire fiasco, I have not yet decided what to believe on that front...
Hurley: Failed DeflateGate Accusations Mean It’s Time For Irsay, Pagano To Be Banned From NFL
BOSTON (CBS) — Here’s a story you definitely did not miss: The Patriots were accused of underinflating footballs in the AFC Championship Game.
Here’s a story you might have missed: It was all a bunch of hogwash.
Yeah, “DeflateGate,” you know the thing where the entire country lost its collective mind because Tom Brady and Bill Belichick supposedly cheated in the AFC Championship Game, a two-week period of absolute hysteria where people drew conclusions as soon as they heard the accusations?
All of it was nothing.
Two developments last week essentially put the kibosh on “DeflateGate,” as it stupidly came to be known. Well, technically, there were three developments. The first took place when Robert Kraft boldly stepped to the podium Monday evening in Chandler, Ariz., and firmly stated that he expects an apology from commissioner Roger Goodell to Belichick, to Brady and to the entire Patriots organization for all of the accusations that came without any proof or evidence of wrongdoing. Much like with Belichick’s press conference two days prior, a person of Kraft’s stature does not speak with such certainty unless he knows that the league has nothing. The stakes would be too high to make such statements if evidence found at a later date might prove them to be liars.
So there was that, but if you’re into more concrete evidence there was this.
First, at a press conference last Thursday in Phoenix, NFL vice president of officiating Dean Blandino spilled the beans that the PSI of the 12 Patriots footballs were never recorded by referee Walt Anderson. Blandino said that balls were measured, and if they were under the low threshold of 12.5, they were simply pumped up with some air. So instantly, the report by ESPN’s Chris Mortensen that said 11 of the 12 footballs were a full 2 PSI under the threshold was essentially debunked. How could Mortensen have that information if nobody could have that information? (The answer, of course, is that a source who desperately wanted such misinformation out there gave him the “scoop.”)
Secondly, NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport reported the morning of the Super Bowl that just one of the 11 footballs was 2 PSI under the limit, while the other 10 were “just a tick” under the 12.5 threshold. Rapoport’s report was crucial for a number of reasons. For one, he is paid by the NFL, and so he can’t afford to be wrong. If his report, which makes Roger Goodell’s bloodthirsty office look like a bunch of clowns, turns out to be wrong, how much longer would the league keep him on the payroll? Second, the phrasing of the footballs of being “just a tick” under the limit is at once believable, because that’s how non-technical measurements would be recorded, and also because footballs which were originally inflated near the lower limit would likely lose some air pressure after two hours outside in January.
And then there’s this: The one football that was 2 PSI under the limit? That was the ball intercepted by D’Qwell Jackson, the pizza man puncher, according to ProFootballTalk. It was the football that was taken to the Colts sideline and then submitted to the NFL to launch an investigation. You’re going to tell me that the Colts didn’t manipulate that football before submitting it? The team that fired off the accusations of cheating didn’t take an extra step or two to make sure they were right by sticking a needle in that football and letting it drain for a few seconds before handing it over to the league and saying, “Hey, the Patriots are using underinflated footballs, so you need to investigate”?
Yeah, well, no. They did that. They did exactly that.
Look, if everyone in the national media can say “the Patriots are scummy cheaters” without having any evidence, then I think I have more than enough reason to say the Colts tampered with the football in question, thereby launching a two-week campaign that worked to soil the reputation of two future Hall of Famers in Brady and Belichick. All because … why exactly?
And if prominent voices in the Indianapolis media like Bob Kravitz and Gregg Doyel can outright call for the firing of Belichick, despite having no basis for such a ludicrous opinion, then I can say this: It’s time to kick Jim Irsay out of the league. Heck, ban Chuck Pagano for a year, too. It’s the only fair response to this situation, right?
Irsay is a guy who, frankly, is lucky to still be allowed to have anything to do with the NFL. In his DUI last year, he was caught not just with a ton of prescription drugs in his car, but also with $29,000 in cash. Tell me, reasonable human being, why anybody would ever have $29,000 cash sitting around if he weren’t up to some super shady business?
“I observed the vehicle come to a complete stop on W. Main Street for no apparent reason,” the arresting officer wrote in his police report. “As I was approaching the vehicle it began to slowly move eastbound and came to another complete stop in the lane of travel for no apparent reason. … I asked him if he knew why I had pulled him over. Irsay advised that he was trying to find his house and gets confused with what road it is located on.”
After this event, Bob Kravitz wrote a heartfelt column saying that Irsay “needs help.”
“That doesn’t make him a bad man, just a troubled one, one who has been in and out of rehab on multiple occasions, one who needs to get himself some help again if he wants to be alive for the Colts’ next Super Bowl,” Kravitz wrote, before adding: “This is not written in anger. It’s written with compassion.”
So to recap: Irsay took drugs and stepped behind the wheel. He could have killed someone. But Kravitz wasn’t angry. Then Bill Belichick was accused of playing football with footballs that had a little less air in them. Kravitz was irate.
Here’s what Kravitz wrote after a very compromised source with an ax to grind against Belichick told him that the Patriots used some underinflated footballs: “If Patriots owner Robert Kraft has an ounce of integrity, he will fire Bill Belichick immediately for toying with the integrity of the game for the second time in his otherwise magnificent career. … If Roger Goodell has an ounce of integrity, and he’s not spending all his time going to pre-game soirees at Kraft’s mansion, he will not only fine Belichick and take away draft choices, but suspend the head coach for the upcoming Super Bowl.”
So, driving under the influence of prescription drugs, an act which could result in the deaths of innocent people, is simply the act of a man who needs some help. Underinflate some footballs, and you deserve to lose your job. Solid reasoning there, especially now that we know the entire deflated football accusations were essentially made up out of thin air.
Aces.
Kravitz also fully believed Irsay when he said he had $29,000 in cash on him because he’s “extremely generous,” but he didn’t believe Belichick for not knowing how much air gets pumped into the footballs. His judgment is sound.
Oh, and Kravitz wrote this: “It is very hard for me to believe — no, it’s impossible for me to believe — that this was one large, cosmic accident. A deflated football, and we’re talking about two pounds worth of deflation, gives the team using it a distinct advantage when it comes to throwing and catching, especially during a rainstorm.”
Hey, Bobby K, Brady went 11-for-21 for 95 yards, 1 TD and 1 INT with the balls that you thought were underinflated and gave him a huge advantage. He went 12-for-14 for 131 yards, 2 TDs and 0 INTs in the second half, after the balls had been reinflated. And in the Super Bowl, with properly inflated footballs, he went 37-for-50 for 328 yards, 4 TDs and 2 INTs. It’s almost as if your theory about gaining an advantage in the passing game was based on nothing except the thoughts inside of your head. Crazy.
OK, I’m sorry, but one more quote from my man Bob Kravitz: “Still, it is utterly amazing (but not really) how far some media will go to defend their city’s team, especially when it wins Super Bowls.”
If Alanis Morissette ever writes a sequel to her hit song, I hope she’ll include this line from Kravitz, which comes while he’s doing his local team’s bidding.
Then you’ve got Gregg Doyel, who wrote this of Belichick after hearing the accusations: “Here’s what the NFL can do, and absolutely has to do: Remove Patriots coach Bill Belichick from the Super Bowl. Suspend him from football, and not next season – this season. Right now.”
Doyel also wrote these creative lines: “Cheater or not a cheater. Belichick’s a cheat. … Cheaters cheat. It’s what they do.”
Doyel also wanted history to change, all over a false charge: “I’ll tell you what should happen: The Patriots should be removed from the Super Bowl. Which means the Colts should be going to Glendale.”
Doyel also wanted to kick Bill Belichick out of the NFL forever: “Not a fine, not a docking of draft picks, not even a lifetime suspension of Belichick, though I would support all three, if the Patriots are found guilty of cheating. Sorry — left out a word. If the Patriots are found guilty of cheating … again.”
One more gem from Gregg: “Cheating can’t be tolerated. Simple as that.”
Calling for the firing of a man before any conclusive evidence comes out can’t be tolerated, if you want to get technical, but sure, your statement works, too.
All fascinating stuff, truly, from Mr. Doyel there.
Again, if you actually followed the story instead of just listening to the blowhards pontificate about cheating, and if you researched the process of game-ball preparation and handling instead of watching Mark Brunell cry and Jerome Bettis call Tom Brady a liar, then you’ve known for several days that “DeflateGate” was nothing more than a talking point for two weeks. There is no substance to the charges, and if any team is going to face consequences, it will be the Colts for providing a compromised football.
So, if I may borrow the style of Mr. Doyel and Mr. Kravitz, I’d like to give this whole “fire darts before gathering any evidence” thing a whirl.
*Ahem*
If Irsay has any integrity — though I doubt he does — he will fire head coach Chuck Pagano. Obviously, the head coach is the mastermind behind every evil plot. Even if it’s Ryan Grigson and Mike Kensil conspiring to bring down the Patriots, Pagano has to go. That’s the only logical place to begin the punishment of the Colts.
If Roger Goodell has an ounce of integrity, he will force Jim Irsay to sell the Indianapolis Colts. It is very hard for me to believe — no, it’s impossible for me to believe — that this was one large, cosmic accident. A deflated football, and we’re talking about two pounds worth of deflation, being handed over to the league by a team accusing the Patriots of using deflated footballs is just too fishy for me to think it’s a coincidence. Not to mention, using a deflated football does not give a team a distinct advantage when it comes to throwing and catching, especially during a rainstorm, so why would the Patriots even bother?
Robert Kraft, Bill Belichick and Tom Brady have been through a lot in the past two weeks. That doesn’t make them bad men, just ones with trouble, ones who have been in and out of the Super Bowl on multiple occasions, ones who need to exact some type of revenge on the rest of the league, beyond just beating everybody on a regular basis. This is not written in anger. It’s written with compassion for Brady, Belichick and Kraft, ironically the three most innocent people from this whole sordid ordeal.
But all is not lost.
Here’s what the NFL can do, and absolutely has to do: Remove the Colts from competing in the NFL next season. Suspend them from the league. Right now.
Liar or not a liar. Pagano, Grigson and Irsay are liars. Liars lie. It’s what they do.
Irsay’s family has been a problem for The Shield for 30 years. Robert Irsay lied to the good people of Baltimore when he shipped the team to Indy in the middle of the night in 1984, and his drunken press conferences were filled with lie after lie after lie. It would seem as though lying is in the Irsay genes, because Jim enjoyed a full week of it following the AFC Championship Game, when his team got embarrassed so he decided to flip the table on the Patriots.
Do you think it’s a coincidence that a full seven days after his Colts got smoked, he finally took to Twitter to offer the most insincere congratulations of all time? You don’t think he realized that after the league investigated for seven days, it had actually come to light that he and the Colts were the ones who were in trouble, and so he decided to try to save some face?
(And do you think Irsay might have been having some heart palpitations after catching wind that the Falcons were about to be investigated for pumping crowd noise into their stadium? No, there’s no hard evidence that the Colts pumped noise into the RCA Dome or even their new Lucas Oil Field, but remember, liars lie. That’s what liars do. They lie.)
I’ve read the comments from some Indianapolis media members, and not surprisingly, they don’t think these over-the-top, ridiculously heavy-handed punishments should be enforced. No shocker there. Still, it is utterly amazing (but not really) how far some media will go to pile on another city’s team, especially when it kicks the crap out of the team they cover.
Despite the blind Indianapolis media’s thoughts on the subject, we can all agree that we can reach this sweeping conclusion: The Colts are in the wrong. I know this because I know this, OK?
So hit the Colts where it hurts. Not a fine, not a docking of draft picks, not even a lifetime suspension of Pagano, though I would support all three, if the Colts are found guilty of lying. Sorry — left out a word. When the Colts are found guilty of lying.
This was, as is painfully obvious, a failed attempt by the Colts to cast a dark cloud over the Patriots. But they came at the king, and they missed. Now it’s time to pay the consequence.
Special thanks to Gregg Doyel and Bob Kravitz for the boilerplate on this story. I could get used to firing wild accusations, calling for Hall of Famers to be fired and spouting off complete inaccuracies in order to appeal to my audience. What a thrill!
[Edited on 2/5/2015 by gondicar]
If the Colts deflated the ball that was intercepted, how do you explain the other 11 deflated footballs? That theory is as dumb as Gronkowski's comments that the balls were deflated when the Pats spiked them in the end zone.
As for Haley, that is just one mans opinion. Eventually, the league investigation will end and the real facts will come out.
If the Colts deflated the ball that was intercepted, how do you explain the other 11 deflated footballs?
Easy, they weren't "deflated". You are obviously a couple of steps behind the story. The new version of the story, and this is from the NFL prior to the game on Sunday, is that the only deflated ball was the one that was last in the possession of the Colts prior to being handed over to the NFL. So the real question you should be asking is, why is that the ONLY ball that was deflated?
That theory is as dumb as Gronkowski's comments that the balls were deflated when the Pats spiked them in the end zone.
Too funny. The only thing that is dumb about this is that you or anyone else would take Gronk's comments seriously and think that this was an actual theory.
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If the Colts deflated the ball that was intercepted, how do you explain the other 11 deflated footballs?
Easy, they weren't "deflated". You are obviously a couple of steps behind the story. The new version of the story, and this is from the NFL prior to the game on Sunday, is that the only deflated ball was the one that was last in the possession of the Colts prior to being handed over to the NFL. So the real question you should be asking is, why is that the ONLY ball that was deflated?
That theory is as dumb as Gronkowski's comments that the balls were deflated when the Pats spiked them in the end zone.
Too funny. The only thing that is dumb about this is that you or anyone else would take Gronk's comments seriously and think that this was an actual theory.
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Actually, you are behind in the story. The original leaked news said that 11 footballs were under inflated by at least 2 psi. The league said that was false, that all 12 footballs were under inflated but by less than 2 psi.
If the Colts deflated the ball that was intercepted, how do you explain the other 11 deflated footballs?
Easy, they weren't "deflated". You are obviously a couple of steps behind the story. The new version of the story, and this is from the NFL prior to the game on Sunday, is that the only deflated ball was the one that was last in the possession of the Colts prior to being handed over to the NFL. So the real question you should be asking is, why is that the ONLY ball that was deflated?
That theory is as dumb as Gronkowski's comments that the balls were deflated when the Pats spiked them in the end zone.
Too funny. The only thing that is dumb about this is that you or anyone else would take Gronk's comments seriously and think that this was an actual theory.
Actually, you are behind in the story. The original leaked news said that 11 footballs were under inflated by at least 2 psi. The league said that was false, that all 12 footballs were under inflated but by less than 2 psi.
That's not what I have read from the league, but that's pretty much the way this whole thing has played out, conflicting info and vague statements. We'll see what the final investigation reveals, but I am feeling very confident that the Pats did nothing here that could be construed as cheating. YMMV
If the Colts deflated the ball that was intercepted, how do you explain the other 11 deflated footballs?
Easy, they weren't "deflated". You are obviously a couple of steps behind the story. The new version of the story, and this is from the NFL prior to the game on Sunday, is that the only deflated ball was the one that was last in the possession of the Colts prior to being handed over to the NFL. So the real question you should be asking is, why is that the ONLY ball that was deflated?
That theory is as dumb as Gronkowski's comments that the balls were deflated when the Pats spiked them in the end zone.
Too funny. The only thing that is dumb about this is that you or anyone else would take Gronk's comments seriously and think that this was an actual theory.
Actually, you are behind in the story. The original leaked news said that 11 footballs were under inflated by at least 2 psi. The league said that was false, that all 12 footballs were under inflated but by less than 2 psi.
That's not what I have read from the league, but that's pretty much the way this whole thing has played out, conflicting info and vague statements. We'll see what the final investigation reveals, but I am feeling very confident that the Pats did nothing here that could be construed as cheating. YMMV
As I understand it, the league has released nothing. If only one ball had been under inflated, I think this investigation would have been done with. One ball out of whack sounds like a defect or a mistake. This would have all been over with.
Sooooo, Jerry Rice has admitted that he was a cheater. And since and his teams were good and won Superbowls, it is fair to assume there will be lots of people demanding that he give back his rings and be kicked out of the HoF and tell us that the 49er championships he played in are all tainted, right? I wonder why Charles Haley didn't mention this?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/06/rice-admits-to-illegal-use-of-stickum/
When Brady and the Patriots win their 5th title in the 50th Superbowl in San Francisco/Santa Clara next February to tie San Fran for number of championships, I don't want to hear anyone say "at least the 49ers did it without cheating".
😛 😉
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Sooooo, Jerry Rice has admitted that he was a cheater. And since and his teams were good and won Superbowls, it is fair to assume there will be lots of people demanding that he give back his rings and be kicked out of the HoF and tell us that the 49er championships he played in are all tainted, right? I wonder why Charles Haley didn't mention this?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/06/rice-admits-to-illegal-use-of-stickum/
When Brady and the Patriots win their 5th title in the 50th Superbowl in San Francisco/Santa Clara next February to tie San Fran for number of championships, I don't want to hear anyone say "at least the 49ers did it without cheating".
😛 😉
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2015: The Drive for Five.
schedule is soft enough to get to the playoffs, though a few tough road games (Dallas, Denver, Indy and maybe Pitt?)
he says there should be an asterisk next to the Patriots conquests of the wannabes yet three days earlier, Jerry Rice said he used stickum.
WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE???
😛
Not one word about Rice.
Not one.
Timeline:
Nov. 29, 1993 in the LA Times — San Francisco wide receiver Jerry Rice caught eight passes for 166 yards Sunday, none more spectacular than his one-handed grab on the sideline for a 48-yard gain in the third quarter.
How did you do it, Jerry?
“I had stickum on my glove,” he said. “That’s a joke — stickum is illegal.”
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Jan. 17, 2015 interview with ESPN — Rice admits to spraying stickum on his gloves throughout his career. "I know this might be a little illegal, guys, but you put a little spray, a little stickum on the them, to make sure that texture is a little sticky," Rice said.
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Jan. 22, 2015 Jerry Rice speaking to Jim Rome — "I'm going to be point blank, I feel like it's cheating . . ." Rice told radio host Jim Rome on Jan. 22. " . . . because you have an edge up on your opponent and it's unfortunate that it happened. I'm not saying the outcome of the game would have been different or anything like that because they (the Indianapolis Colts) got beat 45-7 (in the AFC title game), but they (Patriots) still had an edge."
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Jan, 2015 Jerry Rice on ESPN Radio — “We already know that in 2011, Tom Brady said he liked his ball underinflated. He felt like he could grip the ball better …
“So it’s just one of those things — how you want to be remembered, your legacy? It’s just unfortunate that something like this has occurred because we should be talking about the Super Bowl. Instead, we’re talking about cheating. …
“I think you have to really put an asterisk on it, because this is going to follow them, you know, for the rest of their lives.”
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Feb. 7, 2015 Jerry Rice via his Twitter account — I apologize ppl after doing my research about stickum! The NFL banned this in 1981. All players did it! #equalplayingfield
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Is he a hypocrite for admitting to blatant "cheating" just days before calling out the Patriots? Is he a fraud for tweeting out that everyone was doing it? Is a liar for blatantly denying using stickum right after admitting it while in the midst of breaking the career touchdown mark, and for implying via Twitter that he didn't know it was illegal when he used it until doing "research" despite saying in 1993 that he knew it was illegal? None of the above? All of the above?
Whether you think think it is a big deal or not, and whether you think deflated footballs is a big deal or not, the silence on this is still deafening. The NFL Network’s No. 1 player of all time admits he "cheated" during his record-breaking career by using a banned substance outlawed by the league to gain a clear competitive advantage over his opponents. So where are all the Deflategate Truthers who couldn’t shut up about Brady's balls? Nothing. Nothing from Steve Young, Ray Lewis, Tom Jackson, Mark Brunell, Marshall Faulk or the countless others who, with no direct evidence of any wrongdoing, had no problem condemning Brady, Belichick and the Pats as an organization over and over again as liars and cheaters. And, strangely enough, not one single reporter has asked Rice to look into the camera and answer the burning question, “What’s up with our hero?” Go figure.
Hypocrites.
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Good God. You won.
Good God. You won.
I know. Doesn't mean that the deflategate nonsense doesn't leave a bad taste on some level. What irks me the most is all the former players at ESPN and NFL Network who called Tom Brady a liar and cheater right after he stood in front of the media and took every question they could throw at him. They should all have some accountability, and they won't. It totally took over the run up to the game and will always be part of the conversation in looking back at it when discussing "legacy" the team and the individual plays and coaches involved.
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And it's not over yet, right? Did I miss some official conclusion of this story?
And for the record, you are correct, I could care less if Jerry Rice used stickum.
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And it's not over yet, right? Did I miss some official conclusion of this story?
And for the record, you are correct, I could care less if Jerry Rice used stickum.
😉
Exactly.
And it's not over yet, right? Did I miss some official conclusion of this story?
And for the record, you are correct, I could care less if Jerry Rice used stickum.
😉
You are correct, no official report yet. But that didn't stop you and others on this board and in the media and people in general across the country from pronouncing them guilty from the moment the story first broke. Now, based on everything that has been put out there from the NFL (not much) and from those directly involved, it seems pretty clear to me that there is no basis to "convict" anyone of any wrong doing. You can certainly disagree, but if you do then I think you have to leave open the possibility that the Colts played a role in altering the football that was in their possession.
Good God. You won.
it was a tough two weeks as a fan being on the inside.
in fact, it was brutal.
and how long does it have to take to interview some people and come to a conclusion on this?
as for Rice, he's a stone cold cheater as far as I'm concerned, which ain't far.
