I don't like the Patriots, they are not my team.
If all their fans think they are so damn good, why do they need to do this crap?
Fans can be as smug as they want, yes they thrashed the Colts, (not my team either) but why are they so often linked with provable cheating?
Fans can be as smug as they want, yes they thrashed the Colts, (not my team either) but why are they so often linked with provable cheating?
Because they get caught doing it? 
The Commissioner needs to make a statement. Cancel the Superbowl! 😛
I'm baffled that the Patriots would consciously deflate the balls.
Cause Bellicheck is the Richard Nixon of the NFL. No team can do what the Patriots have done over the last 15 years without extreme talent on the field and off it. But hey; McGovern had as much chance of beating Nixon as I do of getting Jolie to leave Pitt and he still instituted Watergate. It is the corporate climate there. If they deflated one football on the final drive of a close game no one would be the wiser. There is hx in their action (read Jets signals - hell they lost a draft pick for that one)
Angie told me she likes you emr.
The Angie reference is completely going over my head
Oh I read my quote again. Was thinking urban dictionary Angie which is someone who pretends to be a sociopath but really isn't
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Shula's Patriot distrust precedes Bellicheck. One can never forget the "Snow Plow" game.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowplow_Game
Only sports person I ever saw angrier than Shula that day was George Brett c pine tar
It's disgraceful. They disrespect the game and the fans...AGAIN. But, since we have piece of garbage commissioner who won't do anything about it, the fans have a choice to either put up with it, or just give up their favorite game. Patriots are surely a fraud ever since Belichik arrived. Brady is still among the best ever, but Belichik is a complete fraud.
The Angie reference is completely going over my head
Oh I read my quote again. Was thinking urban dictionary Angie which is someone who pretends to be a sociopath but really isn't
I suspect those close to Angelina Jolie call her Angie. I should have included a smiley face. 😉
I think your observations about Bellicheck are probably spot on. I just don't understand what drives that Nixonian desire to stack the odds.
The Angie reference is completely going over my head
Oh I read my quote again. Was thinking urban dictionary Angie which is someone who pretends to be a sociopath but really isn't
I suspect those close to Angelina Jolie call her Angie. I should have included a smiley face. 😉
I think your observations about Bellicheck are probably spot on. I just don't understand what drives that Nixonian desire to stack the odds.
If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'! 😛
Seriously, though, there's shenanigans in all sports.
Yes there have always been shenanigans; pretty well documented that the Miracle Giants of 1951 stole catchers signals; but the Patriots do seem like the Evil Empire and Bill B. is Darth Vader!!!
Yes there have always been shenanigans; pretty well documented that the Miracle Giants of 1951 stole catchers signals; but the Patriots do seem like the Evil Empire and Bill B. is Darth Vader!!!
Not the same. There is no rule in baseball about stealing signs. runners on base try to do it, coaches look for ways pitchers are tipping their pitches, all legal. Underinflated footballs are clearly breaking rules. Funny how "everyone cheats" but only the Patriots get caught. 😛
Talk about getting blown out of proportion, sheesh.
Talk about getting blown out of proportion, sheesh.
Really? You find nothing wrong with cheating in a championship game?
I don't know if they cheated or not.
But they won 45-7 so even if they did so, and there is some fine or repercussion to the Pats, they blew out the Colts so I don't see that it could have mattered to the extent that the Pats won the game.
Everything in Moderation. Including Moderation.
I don't know if they cheated or not.
But they won 45-7 so even if they did so, and there is some fine or repercussion to the Pats, they blew out the Colts so I don't see that it could have mattered to the extent that the Pats won the game.
You are right, it does not mater, the Colts got whipped. NE could have played wiht a bowling ball and still killed them. That point is moot and not even an issue.
There are rules set by the NFL. Thats the point
Everyone has a plan, till you get punched in the face,
Talk about getting blown out of proportion, sheesh.
Really? You find nothing wrong with cheating in a championship game?
What I find wrong with this situation is the way the NFL has totally mishandled it. They have let this story blow up all week based on leaks and unnamed sources and speculation is running rampant and being presented in the media and elsewhere as fact. For such an image conscious league, it amazes me what a complete disaster this entire season has been from a PR standpoint, and it is largely of their own making.
Talk about getting blown out of proportion, sheesh.
Really? You find nothing wrong with cheating in a championship game?
What I find wrong with this situation is the way the NFL has totally mishandled it. They have let this story blow up all week based on leaks and unnamed sources and speculation is running rampant and being presented in the media and elsewhere as fact. For such an image conscious league, it amazes me what a complete disaster this entire season has been from a PR standpoint, and it is largely of their own making.
Spoken like a true homer 😛 😉
The refs weighed the footballs...you cant dispute that. Numbers dont lie.
Oh also...when you are a fan of team and calling into another teams local sports
radio , you better be prepared and bring your ammo. Some guy called in from NE last night to JMV..he was something else, thats all I gotta say.
I dont listen to Dan Dakich here in Indy. Idont care for him, but this is pretty funny when
Christian Fauria called into his show. Dan can be pretty rough.
Link to audio with Christian Fauria and Dan Dakich
http://awfulannouncing.com/2015/christian-fauria-tried-prank-call-dan-dakich-didnt-go-well.html
Former New England Patriots TE Christian Fauria is now a radio host at Boston sports station WEEI. Apparently he has a schtick where he calls in to local radio stations posing as “Christian from Foxboro” as a prank calling Patriots fan to trash talk the opposition. He’s done it for the Detroit game. He did it last week for the Baltimore game. This week, he did it for the AFC Championship Game against Indianapolis.
That meant a call into the show hosted by ESPN college basketball analyst Dan Dakich. While Dakich is mostly known as a hoops guy, he hosts a pretty successful weekday show in Indy that covers all sports where he displays even more of his trademark unfiltered opinion. Dakich is a great basketball analyst, but he can also have a very combative, in-your-face persona, especially on social media. He’s someone that produces strong feelings about his work, one way or another.
Instead of giving the prank caller the *Mike Francesa hand wave* and dismissing him after a few seconds, Dakich engages Fauria in a several minute conversation that might set the record for the number of times the word “ass” is said in a major market over five minutes. Something tells me Fauria wasn’t quite ready for Dakich to come back at him with such ferocity.
probably would have been best for Fauria if he hung up after 30 seconds because Dakich wiped the floor with him. After Dakich blew Fauria away with an opening salvo that was like a vintage Mike Tyson first round knockout, he tried to come back by labeling Dakich a “basketball guy” and even that blew up in his face.
WEEI hasn’t exactly covered themselves in glory in the past year. If you’ll recall, that’s the same station that came under fire for their ridiculous comments over Erin Andrews. If they’re going to go the juvenile prank call route, at least try to make it funny and/or accomplish something. This did neither. This failed pretty spectacularly.
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Everyone has a plan, till you get punched in the face,
Wow. Fauria got owned. I like it.
Re: Erin Andrews - I find her to be neither underinflated nor overinflated
Talk about getting blown out of proportion, sheesh.
Really? You find nothing wrong with cheating in a championship game?
What I find wrong with this situation is the way the NFL has totally mishandled it. They have let this story blow up all week based on leaks and unnamed sources and speculation is running rampant and being presented in the media and elsewhere as fact. For such an image conscious league, it amazes me what a complete disaster this entire season has been from a PR standpoint, and it is largely of their own making.
Spoken like a true homer 😛 😉
Except that zero facts have been presented by the NFL. Everything that is out there now is the result of leaks or back channel sources. Ever since the story surfaced it has a massive case of guilty until proven innocent, and that is on the NFL.
It is being blown totally out of proportion simply because it is the Patriots. Whether that is because of spygate or because they are the winningest team of the last decade and a half and everyone loves to hate the team at the top or a combination of both, they get singled out over something like this when the truth of the matter is that QBs have been doing this for decades and the NFL has known it (if for no other reason than current and former QBs have openly talked about it) and chosen to look the other way, as have the fans and the media. The hue and cry from the media over this now is just laughable, and the bandwagon is has filled of Patriot haters and as is so often the case in the court of public opinion, they are guilty until proven innocent.
Former players say football alterations are part of the game
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Re: Erin Andrews - I find her to be neither underinflated nor overinflated
I don't think that is Erin Andrews, at least not THE Erin Andrews...it doesn't look like her, and I don't think she ever worked for CBS.
Talk about getting blown out of proportion, sheesh.
Really? You find nothing wrong with cheating in a championship game?
What I find wrong with this situation is the way the NFL has totally mishandled it. They have let this story blow up all week based on leaks and unnamed sources and speculation is running rampant and being presented in the media and elsewhere as fact. For such an image conscious league, it amazes me what a complete disaster this entire season has been from a PR standpoint, and it is largely of their own making.
Spoken like a true homer 😛 😉
Except that zero facts have been presented by the NFL. Everything that is out there now is the result of leaks or back channel sources. Ever since the story surfaced it has a massive case of guilty until proven innocent, and that is on the NFL.
It is being blown totally out of proportion simply because it is the Patriots. Whether that is because of spygate or because they are the winningest team of the last decade and a half and everyone loves to hate the team at the top or a combination of both, they get singled out over something like this when the truth of the matter is that QBs have been doing this for decades and the NFL has known it (if for no other reason than current and former QBs have openly talked about it) and chosen to look the other way, as have the fans and the media. The hue and cry from the media over this now is just laughable, and the bandwagon is has filled of Patriot haters and as is so often the case in the court of public opinion, they are guilty until proven innocent.
Former players say football alterations are part of the game
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I thought the ref's weighed the balls.
Everyone has a plan, till you get punched in the face,
It's becoming almost a cliché to even say it, but I'm so damn full of the NFL's BS that I don't even know if I'll turn on the Super Bowl.
Ray Rice's elevator video was the big one..............Meathead Commissioner Goodell deems this worthy of a 2 game suspension. Ravens Coach John Harbaugh says, "It's not a big deal. Ray's a solid guy, we stand behind him 100%."
Here in the Bay area, Aldon Smith drunkenly drives a car into a tree at 5:30 AM (ON HIS WAY TO 49ers PRACTICE)............and John Harbaugh's brother Jim lets Smith play in a game three days later.
The next season, The 49ers' Ray McDonald has a domestic dispute with a woman in his home. He calls his buddy on the San Jose police force, who was there for a BBQ earlier that day, to come over and investigate before the woman even made the official call to the police. McDonald got NOTHING from Jim Harbaugh, was allowed to continue to play without any type of penalty. The 49ers official stance was, "burden of proof". IMO, the call by McDonald to his cop buddy should have been all they needed to release or at least suspend McDonald. McDonald later in the same season was accused of rape by a second female. This time 49ers owner Jed York stepped in over Harbaugh's head and released McDonald.
And people wonder why Harbaugh was let go..........
After Harbaugh is gone, York says at his press conference (I paraphrase, but you get the idea), "We've got to bring some class back to this organization." Sounds like SOMEONE if the NFL has their head on straight. Kudos to you, Jed York.
The Harbaugh brothers are GREAT football coaches. They are also both arrogant, over-testosteroned fools who know NOTHING about ETHICS and managing serious misbehavior from players.
And now a team deflates footballs to win a game. I've got Al Paul's "One Way Out" in hand. Maybe starting on that would be a much better way to spend the afternoon on February 1st.
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Talk about getting blown out of proportion, sheesh.
Really? You find nothing wrong with cheating in a championship game?
What I find wrong with this situation is the way the NFL has totally mishandled it. They have let this story blow up all week based on leaks and unnamed sources and speculation is running rampant and being presented in the media and elsewhere as fact. For such an image conscious league, it amazes me what a complete disaster this entire season has been from a PR standpoint, and it is largely of their own making.
Spoken like a true homer 😛 😉
Except that zero facts have been presented by the NFL. Everything that is out there now is the result of leaks or back channel sources. Ever since the story surfaced it has a massive case of guilty until proven innocent, and that is on the NFL.
It is being blown totally out of proportion simply because it is the Patriots. Whether that is because of spygate or because they are the winningest team of the last decade and a half and everyone loves to hate the team at the top or a combination of both, they get singled out over something like this when the truth of the matter is that QBs have been doing this for decades and the NFL has known it (if for no other reason than current and former QBs have openly talked about it) and chosen to look the other way, as have the fans and the media. The hue and cry from the media over this now is just laughable, and the bandwagon is has filled of Patriot haters and as is so often the case in the court of public opinion, they are guilty until proven innocent.
Former players say football alterations are part of the game
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I thought the ref's weighed the balls.
Did I say they didn't? The rules that I have seen published this week says they inspect the balls 2 hours before the game. Of course they handle them prior to kickoff and between every play as well. I was talking with a guy this morning that has been reffing football, soccer and volleyball and high school and college levels for 40 years, and he said that any experienced official can tell if the ball is out of spec immediately when handled (and in the case of soccerballs, by the sound the ball makes when kicked).
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Re: Erin Andrews - I find her to be neither underinflated nor overinflated
I don't think that is Erin Andrews, at least not THE Erin Andrews...it doesn't look like her, and I don't think she ever worked for CBS.Regardless, the woman is annoying, have you heard her talk?
It is being blown totally out of proportion simply because it is the Patriots. Whether that is because of spygate or because they are the winningest team of the last decade and a half and everyone loves to hate the team at the top or a combination of both, they get singled out over something like this when the truth of the matter is that QBs have been doing this for decades and the NFL has known it (if for no other reason than current and former QBs have openly talked about it) and chosen to look the other way, as have the fans and the media.
So if, say, a pitcher for the Yankees gets caught with Vaseline under his cap or a piece of sandpaper in his glove, he should get off because everyone hates the Yankees?
Maybe there is some truth to some sort of mass vendetta against the Patriots, but, to be honest, Boston fans in general go around telling everyone how awesome they are and daring everyone to knock the chip off their shoulder. What do they expect?
As far as things being "blown out of proportion," this is the Super Bowl we are talking about here. Blown out of proportion is what these two weeks are all about on an annual basis.
I personally don't think that any huge penalty is warranted past a huge fine and maybe a loss of a draft pick (both of which would be completely arbitrary anyway), but if Patriot fans think that bringing the "Ya'll are just jealous haters and we still rule" deal helps things, well, then get on with your bad-a$$ selves!
Just remember, the cloud of "cheaters" will never go away from this era of the Patriots. BUT...if they DID purposefully underinflate the balls...just admit it and move on. The story is always in the cover up, especially in scandals involving the suffix "-gate." 😛
