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Muleman1994
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Not one liberal here has denounced the Black Lives Matter hate group.


 
Posted : September 3, 2015 12:06 pm
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The Civil War was absolutely about slavery. I think you need the history lesson...

"The burning issue that led to the disruption of the union, however, was the debate over the future of slavery. That dispute led to secession, and secession brought about a war in which the Northern and Western states and territories fought to preserve the Union, and the South fought to establish Southern independence as a new confederation of states under its own constitution."

"What led to the outbreak of the bloodiest conflict in the history of North America? A common explanation is that the Civil War was fought over the moral issue of slavery. In fact, it was the economics of slavery and political control of that system that was central to the conflict."

"The Civil War was the culmination of a series of confrontations concerning the institution of slavery."

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Quoting the NAACP is not exactly the best way to push your false narrative.

Nor does it change the fact that the liberals support the killing of Police Officers.

I didn't quote the NAACP - and your second statement again shows just what a trollish clown you are. You don't seem to have any clue what a fact is......

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And of course you don't say from where you cut and pasted your lies.

I always post the links, something you never do....

1) http://www.historynet.com/causes-of-the-civil-war

2) http://www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectives/feature/causes-of-the-civil-war/

3) http://americanhistory.about.com/od/civilwarmenu/a/cause_civil_war.htm

I have decided that I will never again respond to a post by mule. He lies, states opinions as fact, and then changes the subject when caught in lies. I don't know why I even bothered, but I have learned my lesson. I hope everyone else also decides to quit feeding the troll. I don't know why he hasn't been banned, but I hope everyone sees the futility in responding to his baiting.


 
Posted : September 3, 2015 2:21 pm
Muleman1994
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The Civil War was absolutely about slavery. I think you need the history lesson...

"The burning issue that led to the disruption of the union, however, was the debate over the future of slavery. That dispute led to secession, and secession brought about a war in which the Northern and Western states and territories fought to preserve the Union, and the South fought to establish Southern independence as a new confederation of states under its own constitution."

"What led to the outbreak of the bloodiest conflict in the history of North America? A common explanation is that the Civil War was fought over the moral issue of slavery. In fact, it was the economics of slavery and political control of that system that was central to the conflict."

"The Civil War was the culmination of a series of confrontations concerning the institution of slavery."

_____________________________________________________________________

Quoting the NAACP is not exactly the best way to push your false narrative.

Nor does it change the fact that the liberals support the killing of Police Officers.

I didn't quote the NAACP - and your second statement again shows just what a trollish clown you are. You don't seem to have any clue what a fact is......

_____________________________________________________________________

And of course you don't say from where you cut and pasted your lies.

I always post the links, something you never do....

1) http://www.historynet.com/causes-of-the-civil-war

2) http://www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectives/feature/causes-of-the-civil-war/

3) http://americanhistory.about.com/od/civilwarmenu/a/cause_civil_war.htm

I have decided that I will never again respond to a post by mule. He lies, states opinions as fact, and then changes the subject when caught in lies. I don't know why I even bothered, but I have learned my lesson. I hope everyone else also decides to quit feeding the troll. I don't know why he hasn't been banned, but I hope everyone sees the futility in responding to his baiting.

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Now you finally post links to your lies.

" He lies, states opinions as fact, and then changes the subject when caught in lies"
Typical liberal accusation. you lies, states opinions as fact, and then changes the subject when caught in lies and then accuse someone else of doing exactly what you do.

You have learned rhetoric well from Obama, Reed and Pelosi.


 
Posted : September 3, 2015 2:25 pm
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Perhaps some introspective and respectable Black leaders need to emerge and start their own movement. One that will serve as a counterbalance to the dangerous and self-destructive Black Lives Matter movement.

A movement called Black Behavior Matters....

You are such an angry bitter person. I hope you don't own a gun! To point out the obvious, your counter movement would be just as idiotic according to your own logic. Doesn't all behavior matter?

Interesting take. Not sure where you get angry and bitter from that, and the suggested movement would pale in idiocy compared to Black Lives Matter.


 
Posted : September 3, 2015 7:18 pm
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Well at least you admit the idea is idiotic on some level. Thank you for at least doing that.

Generally speaking, lately it seems conservatives want to blame the phrase "black lives matter" for the murders of these 2 cops. To imply that the Obama administration is somehow responsible for this is as anti-American as it gets. At the end of the day, you are accusing innocent decent people of having blood on their hands for heinous acts committed by thugs who distorted the true meaning of the original phrase.


 
Posted : September 4, 2015 5:13 am
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Now you are doing the same thing that you so bristled against. Not surprised.

Are you making some comparison between Black Lives Matter and the Tea Party? Wow.

No, I was comparing the reactions. But I would have no problem making that comparison either.

[Edited on 9/4/2015 by gondicar]


 
Posted : September 4, 2015 5:26 am
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At the end of the day, you are accusing innocent decent people of having blood on their hands for heinous acts committed by thugs who distorted the true meaning of the original phrase.

Interestingly enough, that was what I was implying with the hysteria surrounding taking down the Confederate Flag from Gov't properties after the Dylann Roof shootings. My mentioning of that quickly devolved into "what was the meaning of the Civil War" - which was not why I mentioned it. I brought it up to imply exactly what you said - heinous acts committed by a thug, distorting something, resulting in a completely knee jerk reaction.

We can argue that the taking down of the Confederate flags was long overdue and I would probably agree with that.

Matter of fact, I posted in direct response to Sang's posting of an article from msnbc where the author states:

"Tragically, lunatics sometimes commit horrific crimes. When it comes to maintaining a healthy discourse in a free society, let’s not connect their violence to political opinions we may or may not like."

I could and do also imply that the above comment from the msnbc writer and your comment quoted above also apply to guns in general in this country.

As a responsible gun owner I abhor the connection that somehow some imply I have with heinous acts committed by thugs and lunatics.


 
Posted : September 4, 2015 5:28 am
alloak41
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Well at least you admit the idea is idiotic on some level. Thank you for at least doing that.

How? If I agreed with you, I'd say that personal behavior has nothing to do with the outcomes that one gets from life. That's part of the problem. From where I sit, how you choose to conduct yourself has everything to do with what happens in life.


 
Posted : September 4, 2015 5:32 am
Muleman1994
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Racist militant groups are marching through the streets openly calling for the killing of Police Officers.
It was not all that long ago that anyone saying such a thing would have been shunned from society and openly shamed.

Just as appalling are the leaders of one political party who are endorsing Black Lives Matter and members of that political party will not speak out.
Is that their tacit approval of killing Police Officers?

What has caused this ethical and moral decay?

[Edited on 9/4/2015 by Muleman1994]


 
Posted : September 4, 2015 8:24 am
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Everyone better get one of these:


 
Posted : September 4, 2015 9:00 am
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Any time a police officer is killed in the line of duty it’s a tragedy, but when there are two slayings in quick succession, the anguish is that much more severe.

Late last week, Texas Sheriff’s Deputy Darren Goforth was gunned down at a Houston-area gas station. And then yesterday in northern Illinois, Lt. Joseph Gliniewicz was killed, sparking a manhunt for three suspects.

Death of Fox Lake, Illinois, officer a 'carefully staged suicide'

(CNN)Initially hailed as a hero after his death, Fox Lake, Illinois, police Lt. Joe Gliniewicz is now likely to be remembered by another label: a betrayer.

What once appeared to be the killing of an officer in the line of duty turns out to have been "a carefully staged suicide," George Filenko, Lake County Major Crimes Task Force commander, said Wednesday.

"This staged suicide was the end result of extensive criminal acts that Gliniewicz had been committing," Filenko said, announcing the conclusions of the investigation into the officer's September 1 death.

There was outrage over Gliniewicz's death, and an intense manhunt followed. Then puzzlement.

What looked like an officer whom suspects killed during one last, fateful call began to take a different shape.

Officials confirmed Wednesday the speculation that the story was not as it seemed.

Gliniewicz was under increasing levels of stress from scrutiny into what the investigators found to be criminal activity, Filenko said.

The officer had been stealing and laundering money from a police department program that mentored young people hoping to become law enforcement officers, Filenko said. Gliniewicz, a leader in that program, had been stealing money for at least seven years, he said.

The investigation found that the officer -- who had experience creating mock crime scenes -- staged his suicide to make it look like a homicide.

The officer placed his equipment at the scene in an "attempt to mislead first responders and investigators to believe this was a homicide," Filenko said.

'Ultimate betrayal'

Far from being a hero, Gliniewicz "committed the ultimate betrayal" with his actions over the past several years, Filenko said. "He behaved for years in a manner completely contrary to the image he portrayed."

Mystery deepens in death of Fox Lake officer

The initial assumptions shifted when investigators "didn't see anything to indicate there was a struggle physically" in the officer's death, Filenko said.

Investigators then found that the village of Fox Lake, north of Chicago, had started "a thorough internal audit of all of their assets" that Gliniewicz was concerned might unearth proof of his illicit financial activities, Filenko said.

The investigation indicates at least two others were involved in criminal activity, though that inquiry is ongoing, and police are not commenting further for now, he said.

Before becoming a police officer, Gliniewicz served in active duty and reserve from 1980 to 2007, earning the nickname GI Joe by those who knew him. He left the military with a rank of first sergeant.

Who was Lt. Joe Gliniewicz?

At Wednesday's press briefing, Filenko was asked whether police allowed the narrative of Gliniewicz to spread, even as investigators started having doubts.

"We completely believed from Day One that (the death of Gliniewicz) was a homicide," he said. "Our intention was never to mislead the public."

The last call

The veteran officer had planned to retire in August, but he was asked to stay on for another month.

The last radio call of his more than 30 years on the job was anything but routine. It would signal the beginning of a mystery that stumped investigators for a time.

On the morning of September 1, the lieutenant sent word over his radio at 7:52 a.m. he was pursuing a trio on foot. Three minutes later, he requested backup. Radio communication dropped off. Colleagues would not hear Gliniewicz's voice again.

The backups arrived at about 8 a.m. and a few minutes later found Gliniewicz dead. His body was roughly 50 yards from his cruiser, police said.

Three people who appeared in a surveillance video near the crime scene were cleared of any suspicion.

The shooting

Gliniewicz was wearing a bulletproof vest at the time he was shot, according to two law enforcement officials briefed on the investigation. One of the officials said two shots hit Gliniewicz -- one stopped by his bulletproof vest, and another entered his torso at a downward angle.

The officer's .40-caliber pistol was found at the scene. A source involved in the investigation told CNN in September that Gliniewicz's gun was fired, but it wasn't clear who pulled the trigger.

Lake County officials said the case was being handled as a homicide, but other theories remained on the table during the investigation, including the possibility of a self-inflicted fatal gunshot wound.

The coroner said he couldn't rule out a homicide, suicide or accident.

A massive manhunt was launched in the aftermath.

More than 400 law enforcement officers raked through the heavy woods near Fox Lake on foot, all-terrain vehicles and horseback.

The FBI, U.S. marshals and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives also helped in the hunt as well as police from adjoining areas. But eventually they pulled out, saying no suspects or persons of interest had been identified.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/04/us/fox-lake-illinois-police-officer-joe-gliniewicz/index.html


 
Posted : November 4, 2015 12:18 pm
Muleman1994
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“Obama: Targeting police is 'completely unacceptable'”

That is pretty funny coming from Obama who generally runs to the TV cameras and blames the police long before the facts are known.

Not surprising though. Obama has no problem going for cheap shots while standing on the bodies of dead black criminals.


 
Posted : November 5, 2015 7:24 am
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pops your my hero, or gyro, or sub or wedge or grinder


 
Posted : November 5, 2015 8:43 am
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Posted : November 5, 2015 9:43 am
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