More war and death for profit.
Yay.
More war and death for profit.
Yay.
Sometimes I see our military engagement in certain ways as being a tool to keep global commerce functioning and growing, essentially for foreign and domestic business interests.
On the other hand, I suspect you would agree, that there are real threats in the world that need to be taken seriously or addressed from a military perspective?
I mean, it can't all just be for somebody somewhere wanting to profit...can it in your eyes?
Somewhere behind every cause, every crusade and every crisis, someone is getting paid.
I'm sitting here on an amazing morning in eastern Kansas and I'm supposed to get all excited and fired up and want to bomb or kill yet another dictator on another side of the world? A place I'll never go? A place I only know through pictures and images?
Whether by coup or by war...more war, more death, more profit.
Korea
Iran
Guatemala
Congo
Dominican Republic
South Vietnam
Brazil
Chile
Panama
Iraq
Now North Korea?
Yay?
"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist."
1. Lockheed Martin (LMT) -- aircraft, electronics, missiles, space
Arm sales:$36.3 billion, total sales: $46.5 billion
Gross profit: $2.7 billion, total workforce, 123,000
2. Boeing (BA) -- aircraft, electronics, missiles, space
Arm sales: $31.8 billion, total sales: $68.7 billion
Gross profit: $4 billion, total workforce: 171,700
3. BAE Systems -- aircraft, artillery, electronics, vehicles, missiles, ships
Arm sales: $29.2 billion, total sales: $30.7 billion
Gross profit: $2.3 billion, total workforce: 93,500
4. General Dynamics (GD) -- artillery, electronics, vehicles, small arms, ships
Arm sales: $23.8 billion, total sales: $32.7 billion
Gross profit: $2.5 billion, total workforce: 95,100
5. Raytheon (RTN) -- electronics, missiles
Arm sales: $22.5 billion, total sales: $24.9 billion
Gross profit: $1.9 billion, total workforce: 71,000
6. Northrop Grumman (NOC) -- aircraft, electronics, missiles, ships, space
Arm sales: $21.4 billion, total sales: $26.4 billion
Gross profit: $2.1 billion, total workforce: 72,500
7. EADS -- aircraft, electronics, missiles and space
Arm sales: $16.4 billion, total sales: $68.3 billion
Gross profit: $1.4 billion, total workforce: 133,120
8. Finmeccanica -- aircraft, artillery, engines, electronics, vehicles and missiles
Arms sales, $14.6 billion, total sales: $24.1 billion
Gross profit: $ -3.2 billion, total workforce: 70,470
9. L-3 Communications (LLL) -- electronics
Arm sales: $12.5 billion, total sales: $15.2 billion
Gross profit: $956 million, total workforce: 61,000
10. United Technologies (UTX) -- aircraft, electronics, engines
Arm sales: $11.6 billion, total sales: $58.2 billion
Gross profit: $5.3 billion, total workforce: 199,900
Top 10 Defense Contractors:
Total Arms Sales: $256,000,000,000
Gross Profit: $23,000,000,000
Total Workforce: 1,091,290
As the war machine keeps turning...
Just because somebody is making, selling and profiting the tools and means used for war and defense doesn't mean that is always the underlying cause is for the sole sake of profit.
And nobody is saying you have to be fired up or care really, I mean if you would just rather enjoy your beautiful morning why would you want to bring yourself down by coming here to enter in this type of discussion?
Sit down and shut up, is that it, Scott?
Cool. Don't wanna harsh your expertise. Enjoy the discussion.
Somewhere behind every cause, every crusade and every crisis, someone is getting paid.
I'm sitting here on an amazing morning in eastern Kansas and I'm supposed to get all excited and fired up and want to bomb or kill yet another dictator on another side of the world? A place I'll never go? A place I only know through pictures and images?
Whether by coup or by war...more war, more death, more profit.
Korea
Iran
Guatemala
Congo
Dominican Republic
South Vietnam
Brazil
Chile
Panama
IraqNow North Korea?
Yay?
"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist."
1. Lockheed Martin (LMT) -- aircraft, electronics, missiles, space
Arm sales:$36.3 billion, total sales: $46.5 billion
Gross profit: $2.7 billion, total workforce, 123,0002. Boeing (BA) -- aircraft, electronics, missiles, space
Arm sales: $31.8 billion, total sales: $68.7 billion
Gross profit: $4 billion, total workforce: 171,7003. BAE Systems -- aircraft, artillery, electronics, vehicles, missiles, ships
Arm sales: $29.2 billion, total sales: $30.7 billion
Gross profit: $2.3 billion, total workforce: 93,5004. General Dynamics (GD) -- artillery, electronics, vehicles, small arms, ships
Arm sales: $23.8 billion, total sales: $32.7 billion
Gross profit: $2.5 billion, total workforce: 95,1005. Raytheon (RTN) -- electronics, missiles
Arm sales: $22.5 billion, total sales: $24.9 billion
Gross profit: $1.9 billion, total workforce: 71,0006. Northrop Grumman (NOC) -- aircraft, electronics, missiles, ships, space
Arm sales: $21.4 billion, total sales: $26.4 billion
Gross profit: $2.1 billion, total workforce: 72,5007. EADS -- aircraft, electronics, missiles and space
Arm sales: $16.4 billion, total sales: $68.3 billion
Gross profit: $1.4 billion, total workforce: 133,1208. Finmeccanica -- aircraft, artillery, engines, electronics, vehicles and missiles
Arms sales, $14.6 billion, total sales: $24.1 billion
Gross profit: $ -3.2 billion, total workforce: 70,4709. L-3 Communications (LLL) -- electronics
Arm sales: $12.5 billion, total sales: $15.2 billion
Gross profit: $956 million, total workforce: 61,00010. United Technologies (UTX) -- aircraft, electronics, engines
Arm sales: $11.6 billion, total sales: $58.2 billion
Gross profit: $5.3 billion, total workforce: 199,900Top 10 Defense Contractors:
Total Arms Sales: $256,000,000,000
Gross Profit: $23,000,000,000
Total Workforce: 1,091,290As the war machine keeps turning...
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I see your point.
As long as innocent people are being killed you are all in.
You are good with terrorism.
You are supportive of babies being murdered and having the tax-payers foot the bill.
The more black people that are killed in the cities run by Democrats the happier you are.
Understood.
As long as innocent people are being killed you are all in.
You are good with terrorism.
You are supportive of babies being murdered and having the tax-payers foot the bill.
The more black people that are killed in the cities run by Democrats the happier you are.
You sound like a good guy.
What's your name? I'm Jerry.
Sit down and shut up, is that it, Scott?
Cool. Don't wanna harsh your expertise. Enjoy the discussion.
Nothing could be further from the truth. I'm sending you a pm.
Maybe Trump could get Hillary,Obama,Pelosi,Kerry & Reid to go to North Korea and talk with him.I mean they all were sooooo great at what they did.When they had the rein's,the whole world was safe,sound,happy & united 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛
I wonder if Kin Jung Un knows what it is like to be on the business end of a laser guided tweet.
Maybe Trump could get Hillary,Obama,Pelosi,Kerry & Reid to go to North Korea and talk with him.I mean they all were sooooo great at what they did.When they had the rein's,the whole world was safe,sound,happy & united 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛
We should send you to North Korea. If Dennis Rodman was well received, you will probably be offered a high position on his staff.
Another failed missile test from North Korea:
North Korea test-fires ballistic missile in defiance of world pressure
By Jack Kim and Ju-min Park | SEOUL
World News | Sat Apr 29, 2017 | 10:52pm EDT
North Korea test-fired a ballistic missile on Saturday shortly after U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson warned that failure to curb Pyongyang's nuclear and ballistic missile programs could lead to "catastrophic consequences".
U.S. and South Korean officials said the test, from an area north of the North Korean capital, appeared to have failed, in what would be the North's fourth straight unsuccessful missile test since March.
The test came as the USS Carl Vinson aircraft carrier group arrived in waters near the Korean peninsula, where it began exercises with the South Korean navy on Saturday, about 12 hours after the failed launch, a South Korean navy official said.
Tillerson, in a U.N. Security Council meeting on North Korea on Friday, repeated the Trump administration's position that all options were on the table if Pyongyang persisted with its nuclear and missile development.
U.S. President Donald Trump, asked about his message to North Korea after the test, told reporters: "You'll soon find out" but did not elaborate on what the U.S. response would be.
Separately, in excerpts of an interview with CBS News released on Saturday, Trump said the United States and China would "not be happy" with a nuclear test but gave no other details.
Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi told the U.N. meeting it was not only up to China to solve the North Korean problem.
"The key to solving the nuclear issue on the peninsula does not lie in the hands of the Chinese side," Wang said.
In a commentary on Saturday, China's official Xinhua news agency said both North Korea and the United States needed to tread cautiously.
"If both sides fail to make such necessary concessions, then not only will the two countries, but the whole region and the whole world end up paying a heavy price for a possible confrontation."
Trump, in an interview with Reuters on Thursday, praised Chinese leader Xi Jinping for "trying very hard" on North Korea but warned a "major, major conflict" was possible.
The North has been conducting missile and nuclear weapons related activities at an unprecedented rate and is believed to have made progress in developing intermediate-range and submarine-launched missiles.
Tension on the Korean peninsula has been high for weeks over fears the North may conduct a long-range missile test, or its sixth nuclear test, around the time of the April 15 anniversary of its state founder's birth.
Pope Francis, speaking to reporters, called for another country to mediate the dispute between Pyongyang and Washington, saying the world risked a devastating war.
JAPAN PROTESTS
Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe condemned the test as a grave threat to the international order.
"I urged Russia to play a constructive role in dealing with North Korea," Abe told reporters in London. "Japan is watching how China will act in regard to North Korea."
U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the North Koreans had probably tested a medium-range missile known as a KN-17 and it appeared to have broken up within minutes of taking off.
The South Korean military said the missile reached an altitude of 71 km (44 miles) before disintegrating. It said the launch was a clear violation of U.N. resolutions and warned the North not to act rashly.
With North Korea acting in defiance of the pressure, the United States could conduct new naval drills and deploy more ships and aircraft in the region, a U.S. official told Reuters.
The dispatch of Carl Vinson to the waters off the Korean peninsula is a "reckless action of the war maniacs aimed at an extremely dangerous nuclear war," the Rodong Sinmun, the official newspaper of North Korea's ruling Workers' Party, said in a commentary on Saturday.
Inter-continental ballistic rockets will fly into the United States "if the U.S. shows any slight sign of provocation," the newspaper said.
MORE SANCTIONS MOOTED
Kim Dong-yub, an expert at Kyungnam University's Institute of Far Eastern Studies in Seoul, said North Korea might have got the data it wanted with the missile's short flight, then blown it up in a bid to limit the anger of China, which warned Pyongyang against further provocation.
North Korea rattled world powers in February when it successfully launched a new intermediate-range ballistic missile that it said could carry a nuclear weapon. It also successfully tested ballistic missiles on March 6.
It is not clear what has caused the series of failed missile tests since then.
The Trump administration could respond to the test by speeding up its plans for new U.S. sanctions, including possible measures against specific North Korean and Chinese entities, said the U.S. official, who declined to be identified.
"Something that's ready to go could be taken from the larger package and expedited," said the official.
France also condemned the test and called for a firm reaction.
The U.N. Security Council is likely to start discussing a statement to condemn the missile launch, said diplomats.
But condemnations and sanctions resolutions since 2006, when North Korea conducted its first nuclear test, have done little to impede its push for ballistic missiles and nuclear arms.
The South Korean politician expected to win a May 9 presidential election, Moon Jae-in, called the test an "exercise in futility".
"We urge again the Kim Jong Un regime to immediately stop reckless provocative acts and choose the path to cooperate with the international community," Park Kwang-on, a spokesman for Moon, said in a statement, referring to the North Korean leader.
Moon has advocated a more moderate policy on the North and been critical of the deployment of an advanced U.S. missile defense system in the South intended to counter North Korea's missile threat, which China also strongly objects to.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-idUSKBN17U2XB
A NK nuclear test still may be pending:
China threatens North Korea with sanctions if nuclear tests persist, Tillerson says
Published April 28, 2017 Fox NewsSec. Tillerson discusses US strategy on North Korea
China has threatened Pyongyang with sanctions if the rogue government continues to disregard calls to stop conducting nuclear tests, which are seen as a provocation to its regional neighbors and the U.S, U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said.
Tillerson, in an interview with Fox News on Thursday, said that China’s commitment to implement sanctions on their own accord and that North Korea is aware.
"We know that China is in communications with the regime in Pyongyang," Tillerson said. "They confirmed to us that they had requested the regime conduct no further nuclear test."
Although China’s foreign ministry did not immediately comment on the secretary’s remarks, a spokesman said that Beijing remains committed to employing sanctions imposed under U.N. Security Council resolutions.
The potential for joint pressure on North Korea comes just as tensions in the region reach new heights. Earlier Thursday, the senior U.S. Navy officer overseeing military operations in the Pacific said the crisis with North Korea is at the worst point he's ever seen.
"It's real," Adm. Harry Harris Jr., commander of U.S. Pacific Command, said during testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee. He added that although U.S. intelligence agencies are unsure how far along North Korea’s nuclear missile program is but he has no doubt that North Korean leader Kim Jong Un intends to fulfill his pursuit of a nuclear-tipped missile capable of striking the United States.
Although China has consistently called for an end to North Korea's nuclear weapons program, it opposes unilateral sanctions imposed without a U.N. mandate.
The House GOP leadership announced late Thursday that it would vote next week on new sanctions against North Korea that would target its shipping industry and those who employ North Korean slave labor abroad.
"The time for waiting on North Korea to get its act together is over. Congress has led the effort to institute tough and far-reaching sanctions against Pyongyang," said House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif.
In the meantime, the U.S. has sent a massive amount of American weaponry to the region. A group of American warships led by the aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson is in striking range of North Korea "if the president were to call on it," Harris told the committee. A U.S. missile defense system called Terminal High-Altitude Area Defense is being installed in South Korea.
Harris said he has adequate forces to "fight tonight" against North Korea if that were to become necessary.
Meanwhile NK conducts live fire exercises
Nephew was back in USA in July. he loves it there, teaching children. says there is no point in knowing where the bomb shelter is, you'd never make it. LOL. anyhow he is back there now.
I read something disturbing, I'll try to find the article which highlights all the times it happened, but the crux of it is sanctions are a pre-cursor to the actual war. Whenever we start sanctioning a country, we end up going to war on them later on.
IF WE ATTACK KOREA, CHINA WILL SIDE WITH THEM AGAINST THE US
Ya think? And Russia too. World War Three.
Grasshopper, when sh!t about to hit fan . . .
TURN OFF THE FVCKIN FAN, DUMBASS !
Ya think? And Russia too. World War Three.
Grasshopper, when sh!t about to hit fan . . .
TURN OFF THE FVCKIN FAN, DUMBASS !
Laughed so hard i had to get my back straightened out again.
IF WE ATTACK KOREA, CHINA WILL SIDE WITH THEM AGAINST THE US
hannity? 😛
China said if we make a preemptive strike, they will fight with North Korea. If we retaliate to a North Korean strike, they will remain neutral.
IF WE ATTACK KOREA, CHINA WILL SIDE WITH THEM AGAINST THE US
hannity? 😛
China said if we make a preemptive strike, they will fight with North Korea. If we retaliate to a North Korean strike, they will remain neutral.
Like they did in 1951?
The Korean War never ended. No peace was ever agreed upon - it was just shelved for a while. The chickens have come home to roost.
China is probably loving this.
Though it is not the same, who won in Viet Nam? Was anything really accomplished except for the US getting clothes made there that discount stores sell here, and that was more from Nafta than anything else.
Wars do not solve problems other than to stimulate the economies of the countries waging them, because in the past we have needed to build more planes etc. which created jobs. since the next big war will be nuclear, it will NOT stimulate the economy.
"We're Going to Do It Because We Have No Choice" 9-22-17
Comment: Is Trump's sentiment too strong? Contemplate what others have.
Today 9-24-17, Kim Jung Un sent an ICBM towards Japan landing in the Sea of Hokkaido.
Meanwhile South Korea practices
and the US is ready with a variety of responses for North Korea, whenever the moment occurs where action is necessary.
And the Tridents....
The History Channel has an educational video as to why you don't want to be in a nuclear war.
[Edited on 9/24/2017 by gina]
[Edited on 9/24/2017 by gina]
Clearly the best way to handle the situation is to threaten North Korea on Twitter and call their leader names. It's amazing that we've never tried this before. How can this strategy possibly fail? I mean it worked so well yesterday keeping NFL players from kneeling during the national anthem.
Those ding dongs are creating other troubles.
Volcano Threat Catastrophic Eruption N. Korea and China Border - Magma chamber
Remarks: Three earthquakes have struck where they have done nuclear tests. What is worse is that they want to do it over the Pacific. There are already BIG troubles in the Pacific Ocean, along the Ring of Fire but it is worse. There will be a 65% increase in geomagnetic storms tomorrow, Wed. 9-27 and Thurs 9=28 an 8-% increase. The geomagnetic storms in and of themselves can trigger earthquakes. We cannot have N. Korea firing off missiles during geomagnetic storms.
Interesting documentary from CNN
When you see the people and how they live, you understand they have no concept of anything really outside their world and what they have been told by their government. They are happy and revere their leaders with faith that is religious like. When you see all of this, you can understand why Kim Jung Un will fight till the death to protect his land and those people, it is more than just wanting to remain in power over people who live less luxuriantly than he does. There is a symbiotic patriotism between him and his people. You could never bring democracy to those people unless you wanted to spend 100 years trying to do that. Their whole culture revolves around revering their leaders, their land and enjoying their lives, as simple as they may be.
[Edited on 9/26/2017 by gina]
When you see the people and how they live, you understand they have no concept of anything really outside their world and what they have been told by their government. They are happy and revere their leaders with faith that is religious like.
This descrip fits the trumpsters pretty well too.
I read something today that intel analysts believed that Kim Jung Un planned something for Columbus Day. Trump said he met with his highest military people, and the last thing he reportedly said when asked what we would do about anything happening happening on Columbus Day, he said "you'll find out".
If North Korea attacks Japan more than 2 million die in the first strike.
Meanwhile, North Korea plans to test a long range missile capable of hitting the US West Coast.
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/10/06/537711/North-Korea-test-missile-US
I read something today that intel analysts believed that Kim Jung Un planned something for Columbus Day. Trump said he met with his highest military people, and the last thing he reportedly said when asked what we would do about anything happening happening on Columbus Day, he said "you'll find out".
If North Korea attacks Japan more than 2 million die in the first strike.
Meanwhile, North Korea plans to test a long range missile capable of hitting the US West Coast.
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/10/06/537711/North-Korea-test-missile-US
Got a link for that Columbus day threat? No? Shocking.
Why not send Tom from Fired Up Garage with a couple of tractor trailers full of pork and beans. That might get everybody to turn in to refugees. Don't forget the hot chili peppers.
