Its a good sign that the insurer is allowing for alternative therapies instead of highly addictive morphine . Its a stretch to compare his situation to active players where there are plenty of approved treatments, the best doctors and physical therapists, for treatment for getting the crap kicked out of you per week without having to resort to mind altering party drugs.

[Edited on 3/2/2015 by OriginalGoober]

[Edited on 3/2/2015 by OriginalGoober]

Its a good sign that the insurer is allowing for alternative therapies instead of highly addictive morphine . Its a stretch to compare his situation to active players where there are plenty of approved treatments, the best doctors and physical therapists, for getting the crap kicked out of you per week without having to resort to mind altering party drugs.

This post makes no sense to me whatsoever. On the one hand you applaud Kaiser for using marijuana instead of morphine. Then you mention the NFL's "approved treatments" but fail to be specific regarding just what those "approved treatments" involve.

Apparently your knowledge regarding this subject is extremely lacking. And apparently you were not aware that there is a current lawsuit against the NFL by former players, many of them still in their 30's, charging the NFL with giving them regular painkiller injections which have resulted in lifelong kidney damage.

But to you the NFL's "approved treatments, the best doctors and physical therapists" are above reproach.

I am not ready to buy in that the NFL medical care system is suspect. If you believe this, than your original post could of benefited from some examples of this before trying to convince people NFL weed is the answer, because its not a hot topic on a non sports talk site. In fact it would be quite a scandal that players were forced into receiving unapproved treatments. Where else are there doctors on hand and expensive medical equipment (x-ray, mri) at the jobsite? Maybe at one time substandard care was the case, but it could be that doctors didnt know better and now there are aging players making all kinds of accusations about the treatment they received. i agree with you that a high percentage of players bodies suffered alot of long lasting trauma that no accepted or unapproved treatment would take away and the older players received lousy benefits. i am not ready to swallow nfl weed as a great remedy as quickly as you would an edible but maybe this is because I dont have a pro legalize position, which I take is your main message , and you only used nfl as an attention grabber.

i am not ready to swallow nfl weed as a great remedy as quickly as you would an edible but maybe this is because I dont have a pro legalize position, which I take is your main message , and you only used nfl as an attention grabber.

Actually, you could not be more correct about that. Yes, I am pro marijuana legalization. And yes, I think it is quite an "attention grabber" that the NFL would routinely administer painkiller injections that have lifelong consequences to the person's health, meanwhile keeping use of a plant with no documented side effects illegal. You're absolutely correct, that is QUITE an "attention grabber" and I'd use that argument ANY time to support my pro marijuana legalization stance.

More than agree with you Robslob..I am familiar with that lawsuit..besides painkiller injections, they were dispensing pills like candy. There are some good interviews with Ray Lucas,(who is in recovery as a result of the aforementioned) and with Jim McMahon..The NFL recently lowered the amount allowed in the bloodstream..I'm sure that in the next round of CBA talks, this will be a big issue..The players should stand firm on this

I'm with you 100% Rob.

San Jose Mercury News, 3-5-15:

"Nate Jackson, the former NFL tight end from San Jose, credits marijuana with keeping his brain clean after his playing days and believes the NFL will have to allow the drug in the near future.

Jackson, speaking at a marijuana business conference, said he avoided opiate painkillers as much as he could during his six-year career. He instead relied on marijuana rather than risk becoming addicted to prescription drugs as many of his contemporaries did.

'I feel like I exited the game with my mind intact,' Jackson said. 'And I credit that to marijuana in a lot of ways and not getting hooked on these pain pills that are recklessly distributed in the league when a guy gets an injury.' "

FYI, Jackson is the author of "Slow Getting Up: A Story of NFL Survival From The Bottom of The Pile."

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Is the cost of medical marijuana covered by health insurance?

Q: If growing and smoking marijuana are legal in some areas, why are folks still being arrested for growing and smoking marijuana in those areas?

Q: If growing and smoking marijuana are legal in some areas, why are folks still being arrested for growing and smoking marijuana in those areas?

Federal vs. State law?

What specific cases are you talking about?

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Q: If growing and smoking marijuana are legal in some areas, why are folks still being arrested for growing and smoking marijuana in those areas?

Federal vs. State law?

What specific cases are you talking about?

As BillyBlastoff said, what specific cases are you talking about? I live in California and I've never heard of that happening. What the Feds HAVE done is harrass the dispensaries themselves. Maybe a year ago they raided several of them in San Francisco. They've been trying to put one of the big ones out of business for several years and it's in court right now. I can't remember the name of the dispensary but the owner is a very committed guy and is fighting this tooth and nail. There even was a short cable TV series (three episodes if I remember) 2 or 3 years ago which documented his struggles against the Feds. From everything I've read and also on that cable series, the guy is running everything above board and really is being singled out by the Feds because the volume he is doing is so large.

I think a lot of the dispensaries which have been harassed are not in compliance. Here in San Jose where I live (50 miles south of San Francisco), they have new rules like being such and such a distance from a school. And by July of this year, no dispensary in San Jose will be allowed to sell any edibles unless they are manufactured on-site. That's a little overboard to me, but then again, the strict controls give the entire business more legitimacy. They SHOULD be very anal and restrictive about edibles and their content. I use edibles so I know how strong they are. Think of some kid who decides to get REALLY high and swallows a 100mg dose. He's liable to kill someone on the highway.

Another reason some of the dispensaries were caused to shut down is that they were doing illegal things. A couple of years back via an undercover operation they caught a dispensary employee who was delivering something like a pound of weed to someone he met in a parking lot.

But those incidents are comparatively rare. I know the number is much smaller now because of the new regulations, but at one time there were around 100 dispensaries in San Jose and the vast majority were doing business in a legal fashion. If you're wondering, the population of San Jose is right around one million.

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It is a case of feral vs. state law. Doesn't matter what the state says, at the federal level marijuana is still illegal. Just read a case this week where a group of people were prosecuted by the feds in a state where it is legal for rec use (can't remember which state). Feds went after them because they said they were selling and distributing. The group was convicted of a lesser charge and may face some prison time, but they were looking at up to 10 yrs. on the original charges. Even though I don't partake I think it is time we did something about this at the federal level.

Pretty sure I heard that was in Oregon.

Harborside is the dispensary and I think they won a round recently.

They beat the rap but they didn't beat the ride.

Harborside is the dispensary and I think they won a round recently.

Thanks for remembering the name of the dispensary Ron. Here is the latest article I could find regarding Harborside vs. the Feds. I find it incredible the lengths that someone like Melinda Haag will go to in order to support their own agenda:

http://globenewswire.com/news-release/2015/02/02/702204/10118190/en/Marijuana-Federal-vs-State-Melinda-Haag-Defies-Congress-and-Breaks-Federal-Law-to-Continue-Prosecution-of-Harborside-Health-Centers.html

I guess she didn't get the memo from the White House.

Morgan Spurlock did a show on cannabis for CNN last year and Harborside was featured in it very prominently.