hmmmm.... remember Benghazi? Talk about not letting go..... 😛

There is nothing manufactured about this. Both Sessions and Trump have lied about involvement with Russia. If they are so innocent, why did they lie?

There is nothing manufactured about this. Both Sessions and Trump have lied about involvement with Russia. If they are so innocent, why did they lie?

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Willing to bet that there is much much more to the story than we've been told. Remains to be seen if the details of the truth will come out. We know that Trump, Flynn, and Sessions lie. That begs the question of who else is keeping the truth in. Me thinks the Trump / Russian connection is large & wide. Just look at the pieces that have unfolded to date.

National security adviser meets with high-ranking Russian officials, then lies to the VP. Attorney general meets twice with the Russian ambassador, then lies to Congress in his confirmation hearings. Extensive business dealings between POTUS and Russia, which 45 is very keen on keeping secret (tax returns?) Nope, nothing to see here. OH LOOK - AN IMMIGRANT! MARIJUANA!

as i have heard many times and for many years

Follow the Evidence, it will Lead you to the Truth

😮 😛

Why did Flynn get fired?

Why did Sessions recuse himself?

Hint: it aint because they were innocent.

ok i'm drinking, but......

is it possible Putin was behind Trump pushing the Birther thing?

Cheers ~/ ~/ |`?

Was Gretchen Carlson a Russian plant to get info on Ailes and Oreilly and Hannity?

Cheers ~/

what if Dolphins did LSD?
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/what-weve-learned-from-giving-dolphins-lsd

[Edited on 3/3/2017 by LeglizHemp]

[Edited on 3/3/2017 by LeglizHemp]

Carter Page interview was interesting.....was on ????? dude that's on at 8pm est.....oh hit info thing on remote.....chris hayes msnbc

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Fake News! Nothing here but a poor smear campaign. Better luck fishing in the Gobi desert.

Fake news is right. This is a bullshit story that has been discredited repeatedly. However, Flynn and Sessions lying actually occurred.

Normally I don't think there is anything wrong with representatives of foreign government meeting with campaign or administration-elect officials. It seems natural actually.

Two problems here:
1) Russian hacking into the DNC, State Dept and Hillary Clinton servers and related leaked information
2) the constant denials that anyone in the campaign or administration-elect officials met with any Russians

Obviously the suspicion is that there may have been coordination or collusion between the hackers and the campaign is very serious. And the fact the administration continues to deny anyone related to the campaign or administration had contact with Russians, and then we learn something different certainly casts doubt if they are trying to hide something.

I'm not trying to hide something, I am anxious to know the full results of the FBI investigation.

Regarding Sessions and the Russian Ambassador, again, I don't see anything wrong with that on the surface - even in Session's capacity as a representative of the Trump campaign. Foreign diplomats are going to want to learn more about the policies and positions the next administration, and having conversation with foreign representatives is beneficial to a campaign's knowledge of a host of issues, concerns and policy proposals.

It comes back to the Russian hacking issue. If there was no hacking and no leaks then I think all of this would truly be a non-issue. Of course you have Trump's potential business and financial ties to the Russian government out there. Still, the overbearing issue is if anyone from the campaign was involved or initiated or directed in any way a foreign government to obtain or disseminate information into the narrative of our election - that is the root problem that still needs officially proven or dismissed.

Normally I don't think there is anything wrong with representatives of foreign government meeting with campaign or administration-elect officials. It seems natural actually.

Two problems here:
1) Russian hacking into the DNC, State Dept and Hillary Clinton servers and related leaked information
2) the constant denials that anyone in the campaign or administration-elect officials met with any Russians

Obviously the suspicion is that there may have been coordination or collusion between the hackers and the campaign is very serious. And the fact the administration continues to deny anyone related to the campaign or administration had contact with Russians, and then we learn something different certainly casts doubt if they are trying to hide something.

I'm not trying to hide something, I am anxious to know the full results of the FBI investigation.

Regarding Sessions and the Russian Ambassador, again, I don't see anything wrong with that on the surface - even in Session's capacity as a representative of the Trump campaign. Foreign diplomats are going to want to learn more about the policies and positions the next administration, and having conversation with foreign representatives is beneficial to a campaign's knowledge of a host of issues, concerns and policy proposals.

It comes back to the Russian hacking issue. If there was no hacking and no leaks then I think all of this would truly be a non-issue. Of course you have Trump's potential business and financial ties to the Russian government out there. Still, the overbearing issue is if anyone from the campaign was involved or initiated or directed in any way a foreign government to obtain or disseminate information into the narrative of our election - that is the root problem that still needs officially proven or dismissed.

Perjury is perjury no matter what the subject matter is.

Perjury was certainly a matter of concern when it came to Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky.

Perjury was certainly a matter of concern when it came to Hillary Clinton and Benghazi and emails.

Perjury now is of no concern when it comes to Jeff Sessions? The top law enforcement lawyer in the land?

Neat trick.

Members of Congress meet with diplomats, ambassadors and representatives of other countries all the time. Not an issue. Meeting with them and lying about it under oath is an issue, unless you think it isn't.

What's really getting shocking is just how bad this Administration is already at governing and navigating Washington. Everyone wants to change Washington until they get there and see that it's not so easy. Yeah, sure, drain the swamp, bring in a fresh perspective, all that.

However, to just waltz in and think that you know everything about everything and don't need to be advised on how everything has been working for over 200 years is simply idiotic arrogance. The constant conflicting statements given by different people shows a real lack of cohesive leadership. Before you can get really down deep into policy you have to have your day-to-day business in line and in order. So far...

Normally I don't think there is anything wrong with representatives of foreign government meeting with campaign or administration-elect officials. It seems natural actually.

Two problems here:
1) Russian hacking into the DNC, State Dept and Hillary Clinton servers and related leaked information
2) the constant denials that anyone in the campaign or administration-elect officials met with any Russians

Obviously the suspicion is that there may have been coordination or collusion between the hackers and the campaign is very serious. And the fact the administration continues to deny anyone related to the campaign or administration had contact with Russians, and then we learn something different certainly casts doubt if they are trying to hide something.

I'm not trying to hide something, I am anxious to know the full results of the FBI investigation.

Regarding Sessions and the Russian Ambassador, again, I don't see anything wrong with that on the surface - even in Session's capacity as a representative of the Trump campaign. Foreign diplomats are going to want to learn more about the policies and positions the next administration, and having conversation with foreign representatives is beneficial to a campaign's knowledge of a host of issues, concerns and policy proposals.

It comes back to the Russian hacking issue. If there was no hacking and no leaks then I think all of this would truly be a non-issue. Of course you have Trump's potential business and financial ties to the Russian government out there. Still, the overbearing issue is if anyone from the campaign was involved or initiated or directed in any way a foreign government to obtain or disseminate information into the narrative of our election - that is the root problem that still needs officially proven or dismissed.

Perjury is perjury no matter what the subject matter is.

Perjury was certainly a matter of concern when it came to Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky.

Perjury was certainly a matter of concern when it came to Hillary Clinton and Benghazi and emails.

Perjury now is of no concern when it comes to Jeff Sessions? The top law enforcement lawyer in the land?

Neat trick.

Members of Congress meet with diplomats, ambassadors and representatives of other countries all the time. Not an issue. Meeting with them and lying about it under oath is an issue, unless you think it isn't.

What's really getting shocking is just how bad this Administration is already at governing and navigating Washington. Everyone wants to change Washington until they get there and see that it's not so easy. Yeah, sure, drain the swamp, bring in a fresh perspective, all that.

However, to just waltz in and think that you know everything about everything and don't need to be advised on how everything has been working for over 200 years is simply idiotic arrogance. The constant conflicting statements given by different people shows a real lack of cohesive leadership. Before you can get really down deep into policy you have to have your day-to-day business in line and in order. So far...

I agree regarding the level of incompetence within this administration. It points directly to Donnie's lack of leadership. The guy simply is not competent and has done NOTHING in his career remotely close to the position he finds himself in now. You could see it in his eyes early on as he himself knows he's way over his head. He looked like the lost child he's proving to be.

Thank god he was at least bright enough to follow the advice of a few around him and hire bright, thoughtful, and competent people to run our security apparatus. Defense and State seem to be operating okay, but the White House itself? Oh boy.....

Thanks god we have adults running Congress (relatively speaking) and the Judiciary.

Normally I don't think there is anything wrong with representatives of foreign government meeting with campaign or administration-elect officials. It seems natural actually.

Two problems here:
1) Russian hacking into the DNC, State Dept and Hillary Clinton servers and related leaked information
2) the constant denials that anyone in the campaign or administration-elect officials met with any Russians

Obviously the suspicion is that there may have been coordination or collusion between the hackers and the campaign is very serious. And the fact the administration continues to deny anyone related to the campaign or administration had contact with Russians, and then we learn something different certainly casts doubt if they are trying to hide something.

I'm not trying to hide something, I am anxious to know the full results of the FBI investigation.

Regarding Sessions and the Russian Ambassador, again, I don't see anything wrong with that on the surface - even in Session's capacity as a representative of the Trump campaign. Foreign diplomats are going to want to learn more about the policies and positions the next administration, and having conversation with foreign representatives is beneficial to a campaign's knowledge of a host of issues, concerns and policy proposals.

It comes back to the Russian hacking issue. If there was no hacking and no leaks then I think all of this would truly be a non-issue. Of course you have Trump's potential business and financial ties to the Russian government out there. Still, the overbearing issue is if anyone from the campaign was involved or initiated or directed in any way a foreign government to obtain or disseminate information into the narrative of our election - that is the root problem that still needs officially proven or dismissed.

Perjury is perjury no matter what the subject matter is.

Perjury was certainly a matter of concern when it came to Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky.

Perjury was certainly a matter of concern when it came to Hillary Clinton and Benghazi and emails.

Perjury now is of no concern when it comes to Jeff Sessions? The top law enforcement lawyer in the land?

Neat trick.

Members of Congress meet with diplomats, ambassadors and representatives of other countries all the time. Not an issue. Meeting with them and lying about it under oath is an issue, unless you think it isn't.

What's really getting shocking is just how bad this Administration is already at governing and navigating Washington. Everyone wants to change Washington until they get there and see that it's not so easy. Yeah, sure, drain the swamp, bring in a fresh perspective, all that.

However, to just waltz in and think that you know everything about everything and don't need to be advised on how everything has been working for over 200 years is simply idiotic arrogance. The constant conflicting statements given by different people shows a real lack of cohesive leadership. Before you can get really down deep into policy you have to have your day-to-day business in line and in order. So far...

'Neat trick'

Yeah...

Internet forums are funny you know....like are you quoting me to direct a response at me, or are you using it to make some other point on your own?

Perjury? I didn't mention it. I don't think that discussing certain aspects of any issue (the contact with Russian representatives related to the hacking) automatically requires one to mention and comment on other related aspects. You want perjury charges? Go ahead...I won't stand in your way...from behind my computer over a thousand miles away. If people involved think he perjured himself, that is an issue for others to figure out. I mean who am I, who are you, is everything simple as they appear? I don't care. Plenty of things I don't care about. Tax payer money for killing unborn babies...I don't care. Throw the health insurance industry in the toilet in favor of a government run single payer system...I don't care. Examine the words and the meaning of somebody under oath in a Senate Confirmation Hearing...I don't care. Maybe somebody else does, maybe somebody else posted in this forum about Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton - I didn't, you can speak to those other people on that, why quote me?

Is the White House a "well oiled machine" - of course not. Is Trump and most of the people around him learning on the fly and in over their head? Ah yeah....have I ever said otherwise? In fact I'm pretty sure I have said exactly that before.

So why quote me when giving such a response? As if you are replying to something I specifically said. My post; Russia or any country hacking our government officials cyber systems and using it against a political candidate is serious, and if this Trump administration was part of that, it is beyond serious it is impeachable and resignation worthy. I don't have the results of the investigation yet, I'll go where it goes...I'm not here to represent one side vs the other side - that is somebody else, please don't use me as your target of such posts.

If you don't want me to respond to your posts, so noted. Won't do it again.

If you don't want me to respond to your posts, so noted. Won't do it again.

Not what I was getting at, but do as you wish. One thing the WP doesn't need is less posts.