I never get involved in discussing these type of charges because who really knows what is true and not? I don't try and know, and honestly don't care what we can't ever know is or isn't true.
Having worked bro pono rape cases for 25 years, I follow the headlines enough to see what the actual allegation is. It's impossible to know the truth at this point. Had Ms. Reade filed a police report in 1993 as her mother advised her to do, there could've been an investigation & Biden may never have been VP or he may not have been charged. Ms. Reade didn't put out this story. Once it was out, she filed a police report in DC in April, 2020 to "protect her from threats" not launch an investigation; she didn't even name Biden as the accused in the police report. The statute of limitations for sexual assault has already run & as a lawyer, Ms. Reade knows that.
As far as I recall, neither Clinton nor Trump were accused of sexual assault (not sexual harassment) during their run for office. There were plenty of "I had an affair with _____" but nothing as strong as sexual assault. Accusations were made against Trump in 2019 for sexual assault in Bergdorf Goodman's lingerie department in 1995-96 by a former journalist who never filed a police report & didn't go public until she was promoting a new book. She is now suing Trump for defamation.
If man or woman is a victim of sexual assault, they should file a police report immediately no matter what the perceived consequences. It's a heinous crime for which an alleged perpetrator should at least be investigated. It's not something to remain silent about only to raise 20-30 years later.
I agree that this election is not going to turn on this allegation against Biden. It's a referendum on Trump's tenure as president.
I never get involved in discussing these type of charges because who really knows what is true and not? I don't try and know, and honestly don't care what we can't ever know is or isn't true.
Having worked bro pono rape cases for 25 years, I follow the headlines enough to see what the actual allegation is. It's impossible to know the truth at this point. Had Ms. Reade filed a police report in 1993 as her mother advised her to do, there could've been an investigation & Biden may never have been VP or he may not have been charged. Ms. Reade didn't put out this story. Once it was out, she filed a police report in DC in April, 2020 to "protect her from threats" not launch an investigation; she didn't even name Biden as the accused in the police report. The statute of limitations for sexual assault has already run & as a lawyer, Ms. Reade knows that.
As far as I recall, neither Clinton nor Trump were accused of sexual assault (not sexual harassment) during their run for office. There were plenty of "I had an affair with _____" but nothing as strong as sexual assault. Accusations were made against Trump in 2019 for sexual assault in Bergdorf Goodman's lingerie department in 1995-96 by a former journalist who never filed a police report & didn't go public until she was promoting a new book. She is now suing Trump for defamation.
If man or woman is a victim of sexual assault, they should file a police report immediately no matter what the perceived consequences. It's a heinous crime for which an alleged perpetrator should at least be investigated. It's not something to remain silent about only to raise 20-30 years later.
I agree that this election is not going to turn on this allegation against Biden. It's a referendum on Trump's tenure as president.
Trump was certainly accused of sexual assault during his run for president, but the media pretty much ignored it. I think part of it was that Trump gave them so much other stuff to report on. Here is a list of 25 instances. And no, despite some Trumpers saying these have all been dismissed, they have not. Trump can't be sued while president, so some have been delayed until he is out of office. It's pretty clear that the Trump voters didn't care about his sexual assults.
https://www.businessinsider.com/women-accused-trump-sexual-misconduct-list-2017-12#jill-harth-4
Will the Democrats car about the accusition against Biden? Some might, but considering who he is running against it may be less important. We will hear a lot about this as Trump is in trouble, so he needs something, anything to smear Biden. That is the real reason that you find two threads started on the exact same topic and have a third Biden thread dominated on this topic. I'm not trying to minimize the seriousness of this accusation, but Trump needs something major on Biden so you can be sure that the red hats will try to make the most of this while trying (incorrectly) to say that Trump has been cleared of all past accusations of his sexual assults.
Will the Democrats car about the accusition against Biden? Some might, but considering who he is running against it may be less important.
Too funny, either you take an accusation of sexual assault seriously or, you do not.
Will the Democrats car about the accusition against Biden? Some might, but considering who he is running against it may be less important.
Too funny, either you take an accusation of sexual assault seriously or, you do not.
You can take it seriously and realize that you have to choose the lesser of two evils. We already know what a shitshow Trump is, and I believe there has to be a lot of truth in those 25 accusations of sexual assault against him. In comparison Biden is a saint, even if he did a despicable thing 27 years ago.
I never get involved in discussing these type of charges because who really knows what is true and not? I don't try and know, and honestly don't care what we can't ever know is or isn't true.
Having worked bro pono rape cases for 25 years, I follow the headlines enough to see what the actual allegation is. It's impossible to know the truth at this point. Had Ms. Reade filed a police report in 1993 as her mother advised her to do, there could've been an investigation & Biden may never have been VP or he may not have been charged. Ms. Reade didn't put out this story. Once it was out, she filed a police report in DC in April, 2020 to "protect her from threats" not launch an investigation; she didn't even name Biden as the accused in the police report. The statute of limitations for sexual assault has already run & as a lawyer, Ms. Reade knows that.
As far as I recall, neither Clinton nor Trump were accused of sexual assault (not sexual harassment) during their run for office. There were plenty of "I had an affair with _____" but nothing as strong as sexual assault. Accusations were made against Trump in 2019 for sexual assault in Bergdorf Goodman's lingerie department in 1995-96 by a former journalist who never filed a police report & didn't go public until she was promoting a new book. She is now suing Trump for defamation.
If man or woman is a victim of sexual assault, they should file a police report immediately no matter what the perceived consequences. It's a heinous crime for which an alleged perpetrator should at least be investigated. It's not something to remain silent about only to raise 20-30 years later.
I agree that this election is not going to turn on this allegation against Biden. It's a referendum on Trump's tenure as president.
Trump was certainly accused of sexual assault during his run for president, but the media pretty much ignored it. I think part of it was that Trump gave them so much other stuff to report on. Here is a list of 25 instances. And no, despite some Trumpers saying these have all been dismissed, they have not. Trump can't be sued while president, so some have been delayed until he is out of office. It's pretty clear that the Trump voters didn't care about his sexual assults.
https://www.businessinsider.com/women-accused-trump-sexual-misconduct-list-2017-12#jill-harth-4
Will the Democrats car about the accusition against Biden? Some might, but considering who he is running against it may be less important. We will hear a lot about this as Trump is in trouble, so he needs something, anything to smear Biden. That is the real reason that you find two threads started on the exact same topic and have a third Biden thread dominated on this topic. I'm not trying to minimize the seriousness of this accusation, but
"Trump needs something major on Biden so you can be sure that the red hats will try to make the most of this while trying (incorrectly) to say that Trump has been cleared of all past accusations of his sexual assaults."
Well, didn't Trump try to Benghazi Biden in the Ukraine?
And Trump doesn't need to grope women. He has Melania, and Stormy, and Karen McDougal. Oh and there was that woman who said that on the airplane Trump's arms and hands were like an octopus. That probably was quite the site - an octopus trying to grab em by the puss.
In comparison Biden is a saint, even if he did a despicable thing 27 years ago.
"Despicable" The accusations against Judge Kavanaugh dated back to 1982 and the left had a fit.
Is there an expiration date?
I find it amusing that the red hats are going crazy about accusations of Biden possibly doing what Trump admitted on tape to doing. You just can't make this up.
Creepy Joe courtesy of CNN
I find it amusing that the red hats are going crazy about accusations of Biden possibly doing what Trump admitted on tape to doing. You just can't make this up.
It's all about good old Judge K & not about choir boy Donald.
I'll see your 1 and up you by 25 or more. Remember that power is in quantity.
Well, until there is any actual evidence or testimony under oath, there is no reason for me to continue with this or all of the other multiple threads that you have already posted and will post in the future on this topic. Your desperation to undermine Biden has been noted. If it weren't for Trump saying stupid things on a daily basis, maybe this topic would get the attention you so desperately want it to have, but just as Trump's big mouth kept his own sexual misconduct out of the limelight 4 years ago, it might do the same this time.
It's all about good old Judge K & not about choir boy Donald.
Actually, if you take a look at the thread title, it's about Joe Biden, the Kavanaugh example was introduced because someone here stated that one Biden accusation went back 27 years, like that exempts him.
Trump was certainly accused of sexual assault during his run for president, but the media pretty much ignored it. I think part of it was that Trump gave them so much other stuff to report on. Here is a list of 25 instances. And no, despite some Trumpers saying these have all been dismissed, they have not. Trump can't be sued while president, so some have been delayed until he is out of office. It's pretty clear that the Trump voters didn't care about his sexual assults.
Yes, there were at least 22 allegations of sexual misconduct/harassment against Trump that do not legally rise to the level of sexual assault/rape/sodomy of the type Ms. Reade alleged to her mother. E. Jean Carroll's pending defamation suit is based on an allegation of rape in a dressing room at Bergdorf Goodman.
Neither party cares if a candidate ogled a beauty contestant off-stage (the point of the contest is to ogle them on stage & rank them) or made a lewd comment or kissed someone once w/o permission 1-30 years ago.
Sexual crimes are heinous. People should care about those, but none more so than the victim. It needs to be reported to the police.
When Biden's lastest campaign message was "Don't drink bleach," his candidacy isn't going to be de-railed by Ms. Reade's allegations.
Typical, Biden is accused, (Again) and all of the usual suspects appear to chime in with "What about the other guy"?
Joe has been accused of penetrating a woman with his fingers after she delivered his gym bag.
Either you are taking that seriously or you are among those who will reply with, "What about the other guy"?
Is this where we're supposed to discuss allegations about Biden? Why is the original Biden thread being made unreadable by posts on this topic?
Is this where we're supposed to discuss allegations about Biden? Why is the original Biden thread being made unreadable by posts on this topic?
Read the thread title, and then you tell us, you've contributed 4 posts on this thread and three of them focus on President Trump.
Candidate Joe is hoping this question fades faster than coronavirus lysol chaser. Unfortunately, this question will be waiting for him, to answer. Will he deny,deny,deny ? Has he even gone on record with any type of explanation to this former employee of his?
Candidate Joe is hoping this question fades faster than coronavirus lysol chaser. Unfortunately, this question will be waiting for him, to answer. Will he deny,deny,deny ? Has he even gone on record with any type of explanation to this former employee of his?
Of course he will deny these accusations, this is what ALL candidates do and will continue to do, because nothing is more important than being elected!
Actually to be fair, Trump used the "Too ugly to assult" approach. It seemed to work.
. . .accusation went back 27 years, like that exempts him
Correct me if I am wrong, but I was under the impression that was one of the main reasons Kavanaugh beat the rap.
"My guy did it ... but so did yours". Yeah, that makes it even.
Is this where we're supposed to discuss allegations about Biden? Why is the original Biden thread being made unreadable by posts on this topic?
Read the thread title, and then you tell us, you've contributed 4 posts on this thread and three of them focus on President Trump.
My point is there's one thread about Biden in general & currently about his remarks re the DNC & one about the sexual allegations against him. I'd like to read the Biden thread but sexual allegation comments are cluttering it up IMO.
If you interpreted any of my comments to be anti-Trump, that's incorrect. If anything, I've pointed out that Trump & Clinton were never accused of sexual assault/rape/sodomy prior to becoming president - harassment, yes, assault, no.
One of my comments was in response to your question re why a SCOTUS nominee & POTUS candidate are treated differently.
I've little to no interest in this topic because nothing was reported to the police at the time it happened even though Ms. Reade was urged to do so by her mother. A police investigation is barred by statute of limitations.
I consider Ms. Reade reluctant. Her allegations came to light as a side issue when a local reporter was investigating her alleged activities as a Russian asset & pro-Putin twitter feed. These allegations seem like something she never intended to report or make known publicly. She didn't file a police report. She kept silent during Biden's run for/stint as VP. Since she was outed, she's taken steps to mitigate damage to herself. Remember, this is a woman who changed her name & moved to another state to protect herself & her daughter from domestic abuse. Pretty sure her abuser can find her now.
In every other case mentioned on the board, the alleged victim was driving the action no matter what the political affiliation of the accused.
. . .accusation went back 27 years, like that exempts him
Correct me if I am wrong, but I was under the impression that was one of the main reasons Kavanaugh beat the rap.
"My guy did it ... but so did yours". Yeah, that makes it even.
Does not in any way, shape, or form, "Make it even"....But it is what happens.
. . .accusation went back 27 years, like that exempts him
Correct me if I am wrong, but I was under the impression that was one of the main reasons Kavanaugh beat the rap.
"My guy did it ... but so did yours". Yeah, that makes it even.
Not really...not even...not even close. Trump is always the winner, and he reminds us that others are losers. Trump's numbers are much more impressive than Joe's. 😛
Trump is always the winner, and he reminds us that others are losers. Trump's numbers are much more impressive than Joe's. 😛
Well, this is why we are all looking forward to the debates. A place where creepy Joe Biden can stand up and in his own words, speak for himself and to the left's hopeful glee, prove president Trump wrong, all without steppin' on his own tongue in the process.
at some point males won't be able to hold political office
Well, we might let a few of you...
Risky. Give em an inch and they'll take a mile. Men have blown it. It is going to be women who will pick up the pieces and fix the world.
I have no doubt we can. 
Joe's done.
Finished. Kaput.
He just might not know it yet - but the vultures are circling and he's the menu.
If he's lucky, he makes it to the end of May before bowing out, but it may not last that long.
[Edited on 4/28/2020 by Fujirich]
