It does deserve its own thread. High time these old white men got called out. They are from a generation that did not regard this behavior as deeply traumatic abuse. Democrat, Republican, makes no difference, this stops now.

I am with AOC on this one - let's look at it, give the woman her day in court. If it can't be proven then ok Biden skates same as Trump did. Whatever the outcome, upshot is at least it serves more notice that this kind of abuse is history now, which is a healthy change, and the Bidens and Trumps and the rest will be buried in the graveyard of sexist anachronism. Time to move on.

"Time to move on"...Agreed..... As soon as this gets the same attention and scrutiny Judge Kavanaugh received. A potential holder of the highest office in the land deserves the same treatment as a potential Supreme Court Judge.

Nowhere have I defended Joe or equated sexual assault to the pu**^ grabbing quote.

Just pointing out the irony of a bunch of people who had no problem voting for a man with over 20 accusers (not to mention his legacy of fraud and overall sense of entitlement) now pretending to give a rat's ass about women or victim's rights.

What is different now other than the accused's party affiliation?
When it was Trump in the hot seat I recall the Fox News crowd being very quick to write off the accusers as gold diggers on the Clinton's pay roll.

I have never been a big Biden fan nor have I ever come to his defense here, just curious as to why a candidates morals now matter to the Redhat nation.

Nowhere have I defended Joe or equated sexual assault to the pu**^ grabbing quote.

Never stated or inferred that you have, used your words only as a means to highlight the hypocrisy that exits between the left and the right.

What is different now other than the accused's party affiliation?

Not a damn thing, that is the point

It is a valid complaint that the Democratic Party is dragging its feet

And your best guess as to why?

Nowhere have I defended Joe or equated sexual assault to the pu**^ grabbing quote.

Never stated or inferred that you have, used your words only as a means to highlight the hypocrisy that exits between the left and the right.

What is different now other than the accused's party affiliation?

Not a damn thing, that is the point

Exactly, so why do the red hats suddenly care about a potential sexual assault victim?

Nowhere have I defended Joe or equated sexual assault to the pu**^ grabbing quote.

Never stated or inferred that you have, used your words only as a means to highlight the hypocrisy that exits between the left and the right.

What is different now other than the accused's party affiliation?

Not a damn thing, that is the point

Exactly, so why do the red hats suddenly care about a potential sexual assault victim?

The EXACT same reason the left does, political gain. Both sides are and will continue to be equally guilty. Biden gets the same treatment as Kavanaugh. Live in a glass house?...

The difference is that liberals are calling Biden out now, as Redhats never did on their guy.

Please, save the "holier than thou" B.S. You can't have it both ways. In one post you say the Dems are "Dragging their feet" and in the next you say "They are calling him out now"...

Both parties suck, Vote them all out in November. If anyone has held office for 8 or more years, vote them out.

Hahah what a trip, everyone but the BIIIIG guy is the hypocrite. Seems I forgot disagreeing with you constitutes a violation of your first amendment rights. Spare me

Hahah what a trip, everyone but the BIIIIG guy is the hypocrite. Seems I forgot disagreeing with you constitutes a violation of your first amendment rights. Spare me

"Between the left and the right"...Just one more person here who can not distinguish personal from a critical observation of the insanity that is the two party system.

Your lack of interpretive skills does not serve you well.

You've made two threads on this, how many did you make about sexual assault claims on the 2016 campaign trail?

Tara Reade's 27 year old alleged sexual assault

Christine Blasey Ford's accusation of Judge Kavanaugh goes back to 1982. Do the math.

You've made two threads on this, how many did you make about sexual assault claims on the 2016 campaign trail?

You can either reply to the issue at hand or continue to make me your focal point.

LOL, your call

Please, save the "holier than thou" B.S. You can't have it both ways. In one post you say the Dems are "Dragging their feet" and in the next you say "They are calling him out now"...

Nope, I said the Democratic Party is dragging its feet. I also said Liberals are calling Biden out. " Liberal" is not a party. You know as well as I that Libs are more capable of self-criticism.

As far as "holier than thou", that is your thing - if that is how you interpret my objective observations of differences, made without any judgement, then feel free to interpret as you will, pass judgement on yourself, I am not interested.

In my humble view, just as "most" Conservatives are Republican, "most" Liberals are Democrats .....Pardon me for generalizing.

You've made two threads on this, how many did you make about sexual assault claims on the 2016 campaign trail?

You can either reply to the issue at hand or continue to make me your focal point.

LOL, your call

Says the guy that hijacks a thread about a book title to make it his free speech battleground.
You already made a thread for this topic. You chose to make another that began with quoting me, then proceeded to ignore the point I was making with your typical bs deflections and calling everyone else a hypocrite.
Don't like being called out your on hypocrisy and ignorant bs? Stick the the Glenn Beck and Stormfront forums or at least stop back peddling and contradicting yourself all the time.

[Edited on 4/26/2020 by lukester420]

Don't like being called out your on hypocrisy and ignorant bs?

I really don't care what you think, you can call it anyway you see fit, that does not change or alter in anyway shape or form that the presumptive Democratic Candidate for the office of President has been accused of sexual assault, now does it? The whole reason for this thread is to see if the same rats who crawled out of the sewer calling for a FBI investigation of Judge Kavanaugh are finding every reason in the book to attempt to discredit the woman who stated that Senator Biden, "Penetrated me with his fingers".....

Let's get the FBI involved in this.

If he did the crime, then he has to do the time.

I do find the timing of the accusations a bit confounding but sexual assaults or rape can be very complicated especially when they involve public figures.

Trump's favorite hobby - even more so than golf on the taxpayers' dime.

https://www.businessinsider.com/women-accused-trump-sexual-misconduct-list-2017-12#jill-harth-4

[Edited on 4/26/2020 by MartinD28]

Seems odd one would start a duplicate thread by quoting me if they don't care what I think.

Yes, Biden was accused, yes he should be investigated and yes he should be thrown under the jail if guilty.

I still find it comical that you were not quick to jump to this chivalrous defense of a victim of alleged sexual assault when the shoe was on the other foot but now somehow everyone else is a rat and a hypocrite. So predictable

I still find it comical that you were not quick to jump to this chivalrous defense of a victim of alleged sexual assault when the shoe was on the other foot but now somehow everyone else is a rat and a hypocrite. So predictable

I am not defending anyone. I am critical of the people who were quick to jump on the "Kavanaugh is guilty" train while remaining silent about Biden. Now as to the timing of this accusation, is it any different than what I perceive to have been about Kavanugh's stance on Abortion?... And the fear of what his vote represents? That, is predictable.

I repeat, both parties suck.

A potential holder of the highest office in the land deserves the same treatment as a potential Supreme Court Judge.

Apples & oranges.

A SCOTUS nominee is a political appointee requiring Congressional approval. When presented w/an allegation, they investigate. A presidential candidate is elected by voters who can choose whether allegations never brought to the attention of the police are important to them or not.

[Edited on 4/26/2020 by cyclone88]

If that is the reason you started this thread, have you found the sewer rats trying to discredit the woman?

He doesn't own a mirror apparently.

If that is the reason you started this thread, have you found the sewer rats trying to discredit the woman?

In a matter of speaking, yes. Going back into some older threads, there is one about Judge Kavanaugh (Misspelled with a C) in Sept. of '18 with 12 pages of ranting about how guilty he is, quite entertaining, all of the back & forth about his character, his political stances...12 pages. Here?...

Crickets.

All this silence on this issue swirling around Biden is going to knee-cap the "Me-Too" movement. If it gets ignored by the big news outlets and cable pundits its not going to look good.

In a matter of speaking, yes

"In a manner of speaking"

means:

"To some degree or extent"

kind of rather
fairly quite
somewhat relatively
moderately pretty
slightly enough
kinda something
sorta kindly
like a bit
a little a tad
a touch sort of
to some extent a shade
a mite in a way
ish to a degree
more or less of sorts
after a sort as one might say
after a fashion

Point taken

From last year, look at that!...More accusations!

Unless you are bashing Trump, most threads here don't get a lot of posts any more.

Unless you are bashing Trump, most threads here don't get a lot of posts any more.

Trump bad!....Biden is well, not as bad, And at least he is not Trump, he may be creepy, but he's better than Trump. It really doesn't matter what Biden says, he isn't Trump and that...is good enough.

If somebody did an unbiased comparison of Trump vs Biden in terms of allegations, history, controversies and even foot in mouth comments...Biden comes out the cleaner one. Maybe if it was Biden vs some other Republican, Joe would have a hard time with some of his history, but comparing him to Trump...there aren't many redeeming qualities in Trump.

I never get involved in discussing these type of charges because who really knows what is true and not? I don't try and know, and honestly don't care what we can't ever know is or isn't true.

It's better to look at who the person we know is, not the one we don't know. Pretty sure everyone has a good handle on who Trump is and who Biden is - in terms of what is public knowlege. That is going to determine how very many people vote this November.

Don't like being called out your on hypocrisy and ignorant bs?

I really don't care what you think, you can call it anyway you see fit, that does not change or alter in anyway shape or form that the presumptive Democratic Candidate for the office of President has been accused of sexual assault, now does it? The whole reason for this thread is to see if the same rats who crawled out of the sewer calling for a FBI investigation of Judge Kavanaugh are finding every reason in the book to attempt to discredit the woman who stated that Senator Biden, "Penetrated me with his fingers".....

Let's get the FBI involved in this.

Seems reasonable, but would you be happy with the same 1 week super limited investigation investigation that Kavanaugh got? Should the FBI also investigate the allegations against Trump as well, or do you only want to investigate Democrats?