Not long after the coward Obama cut and ran from Iraq giving ISIS a clear path to grow exponentially and wreak havoc and death.

Commie! Pinko! TRAITOR!!!

i tend to think that is because of media, constantly being told something bad is going to happen.

[Edited on 11/18/2015 by LeglizHemp]

__________________________________________________________________________

Or is it because something bad just did happen?

The bad thing that just happened is because Obama let ISIS establish itself and grow exponentially and without opposition.

Just to broaden your perspective you should consider that the European countries withdrew from the Middle East militarily at the same time that European fighters began to join ISIS in great numbers.

__________________________________________________________________________

Not long after the coward Obama cut and ran from Iraq giving ISIS a clear path to grow exponentially and wreak havoc and death.

It was also a campaign promise to end the Iraq War. Since McCain was solidly pro-war one can say this was one of the reasons President Obama was elected.

Bush's surge should have ensured what was then the coals of ISIS were out and not simmering. Bush was responsible for ISIS mainly because he disbanded the military and then these soldiers formed their own army. It was a very stupid move and the world is still living with the outcome of that stupidity.

You guys need to accept the fact that while you are enamored with guns you suck at wars.

You still got that ankle holster?

i tend to think that is because of media, constantly being told something bad is going to happen.

[Edited on 11/18/2015 by LeglizHemp]

__________________________________________________________________________

Or is it because something bad just did happen?

The bad thing that just happened is because Obama let ISIS establish itself and grow exponentially and without opposition.

Just to broaden your perspective you should consider that the European countries withdrew from the Middle East militarily at the same time that European fighters began to join ISIS in great numbers.

__________________________________________________________________________

Not long after the coward Obama cut and ran from Iraq giving ISIS a clear path to grow exponentially and wreak havoc and death.

It was also a campaign promise to end the Iraq War. Since McCain was solidly pro-war one can say this was one of the reasons President Obama was elected.

Bush's surge should have ensured what was then the coals of ISIS were out and not simmering. Bush was responsible for ISIS mainly because he disbanded the military and then these soldiers formed their own army. It was a very stupid move and the world is still living with the outcome of that stupidity.

You guys need to accept the fact that while you are enamored with guns you suck at wars.

You still got that ankle holster?

_______________________________________________________________________

“Bush's surge should have ensured what was then the coals of ISIS were out and not simmering.”
- Crap. ISIS did not exist in 2007/08. Some of the what was 600 or so remaining Al Qaeda in Iraq and a few others had a free hand after Obama cut and ran to form ISIS.

The rest of your post is nothing more than common liberal weakness.

i tend to think that is because of media, constantly being told something bad is going to happen.

[Edited on 11/18/2015 by LeglizHemp]

__________________________________________________________________________

Or is it because something bad just did happen?

The bad thing that just happened is because Obama let ISIS establish itself and grow exponentially and without opposition.

Just to broaden your perspective you should consider that the European countries withdrew from the Middle East militarily at the same time that European fighters began to join ISIS in great numbers.

__________________________________________________________________________

Not long after the coward Obama cut and ran from Iraq giving ISIS a clear path to grow exponentially and wreak havoc and death.

It was also a campaign promise to end the Iraq War. Since McCain was solidly pro-war one can say this was one of the reasons President Obama was elected.

Bush's surge should have ensured what was then the coals of ISIS were out and not simmering. Bush was responsible for ISIS mainly because he disbanded the military and then these soldiers formed their own army. It was a very stupid move and the world is still living with the outcome of that stupidity.

You guys need to accept the fact that while you are enamored with guns you suck at wars.

You still got that ankle holster?

_______________________________________________________________________

“Bush's surge should have ensured what was then the coals of ISIS were out and not simmering.”
- Crap. ISIS did not exist in 2007/08. Some of the what was 600 or so remaining Al Qaeda in Iraq and a few others had a free hand after Obama cut and ran to form ISIS.

The rest of your post is nothing more than common liberal weakness.

I guess you are too dumb to accept reality bush set the timeline for american troops exiting iraq. also the removal of saddam gave birth to isil in iraq.

[Edited on 11/21/2015 by pops42]

_________________________________________________________________________

Not according to anyone who is informed and has the ability to apply critical thinking.
You have never demonstrated either trait.

Here you go pops. Learn something:

On the Origin of ISIS
http://www.hudson.org/research/10584-on-the-origin-of-isis

[Edited on 11/21/2015 by Muleman1994]

i tend to think that is because of media, constantly being told something bad is going to happen.

[Edited on 11/18/2015 by LeglizHemp]

__________________________________________________________________________

Or is it because something bad just did happen?

The bad thing that just happened is because Obama let ISIS establish itself and grow exponentially and without opposition.

Just to broaden your perspective you should consider that the European countries withdrew from the Middle East militarily at the same time that European fighters began to join ISIS in great numbers.

__________________________________________________________________________

Not long after the coward Obama cut and ran from Iraq giving ISIS a clear path to grow exponentially and wreak havoc and death.

It was also a campaign promise to end the Iraq War. Since McCain was solidly pro-war one can say this was one of the reasons President Obama was elected.

Bush's surge should have ensured what was then the coals of ISIS were out and not simmering. Bush was responsible for ISIS mainly because he disbanded the military and then these soldiers formed their own army. It was a very stupid move and the world is still living with the outcome of that stupidity.

You guys need to accept the fact that while you are enamored with guns you suck at wars.

You still got that ankle holster?

_______________________________________________________________________

“Bush's surge should have ensured what was then the coals of ISIS were out and not simmering.”
- Crap. ISIS did not exist in 2007/08. Some of the what was 600 or so remaining Al Qaeda in Iraq and a few others had a free hand after Obama cut and ran to form ISIS.

The rest of your post is nothing more than common liberal weakness.

I guess you are too dumb to accept reality bush set the timeline for american troops exiting iraq. also the removal of saddam gave birth to isil in iraq.

[Edited on 11/21/2015 by pops42]

_________________________________________________________________________

Not according to anyone who is informed and has the ability to apply critical thinking.
You have never demonstrated either trait.

Here you go pops. Learn something:

On the Origin of ISIS
http://www.hudson.org/research/10584-on-the-origin-of-isis

[Edited on 11/21/2015 by Muleman1994]

Maybe you should go back and read it as it clearly states that ISIS came to be after Sadaam was removed from power and the new regime started hunting down former military officers.

On the other side, Tehran’s first order of business in 2003 after Saddam had been toppled was to take revenge on the Iraqi military and intelligence personnel the Iranians had fought in the 1980s. Many of Iran’s allies in Iraq—including, some say, former prime minister Maliki—formed death squads to go after these officers. Saddam’s onetime officer corps went into hiding and used their expertise and money to wage war against the regime that had replaced them. When the United States, in partnership with major Sunni tribes, defeated the Sunni insurgency, American officials pleaded with Maliki to stop hunting the former Baathists and allow them to resettle peacefully in a post-Saddam Iraq. Maliki didn’t, nor did his allies. Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps officers like Quds Force commander and Iran-Iraq war veteran Qassem Suleimani as well as Iranian-backed militias like Asa’ib ahl al-Haq continued to prosecute their war against Iraq’s Sunni community. Eventually the Sunnis came to see ISIS as one of their few lines of defense against this Shiite persecution.

i tend to think that is because of media, constantly being told something bad is going to happen.

[Edited on 11/18/2015 by LeglizHemp]

__________________________________________________________________________

Or is it because something bad just did happen?

The bad thing that just happened is because Obama let ISIS establish itself and grow exponentially and without opposition.

Just to broaden your perspective you should consider that the European countries withdrew from the Middle East militarily at the same time that European fighters began to join ISIS in great numbers.

__________________________________________________________________________

Not long after the coward Obama cut and ran from Iraq giving ISIS a clear path to grow exponentially and wreak havoc and death.

It was also a campaign promise to end the Iraq War. Since McCain was solidly pro-war one can say this was one of the reasons President Obama was elected.

Bush's surge should have ensured what was then the coals of ISIS were out and not simmering. Bush was responsible for ISIS mainly because he disbanded the military and then these soldiers formed their own army. It was a very stupid move and the world is still living with the outcome of that stupidity.

You guys need to accept the fact that while you are enamored with guns you suck at wars.

You still got that ankle holster?

_______________________________________________________________________

“Bush's surge should have ensured what was then the coals of ISIS were out and not simmering.”
- Crap. ISIS did not exist in 2007/08. Some of the what was 600 or so remaining Al Qaeda in Iraq and a few others had a free hand after Obama cut and ran to form ISIS.

The rest of your post is nothing more than common liberal weakness.

I guess you are too dumb to accept reality bush set the timeline for american troops exiting iraq. also the removal of saddam gave birth to isil in iraq.

[Edited on 11/21/2015 by pops42]

_________________________________________________________________________

Not according to anyone who is informed and has the ability to apply critical thinking.
You have never demonstrated either trait.

Here you go pops. Learn something:

On the Origin of ISIS
http://www.hudson.org/research/10584-on-the-origin-of-isis

[Edited on 11/21/2015 by Muleman1994]

I guess you are too lazy and stupid to read your own link son 😛 maybe have dr carson fix that "coat hanger" lobotomy of yours.

_______________________________________________________________________

You claimed:
"bush set the timeline for american troops exiting iraq. also the removal of saddam gave birth to isil in iraq."

The facts, well reported show you are a fool.

BTW - I hear Dr. Carson turned down your brain surgery case. Nothing found to work on.

i tend to think that is because of media, constantly being told something bad is going to happen.

[Edited on 11/18/2015 by LeglizHemp]

__________________________________________________________________________

Or is it because something bad just did happen?

The bad thing that just happened is because Obama let ISIS establish itself and grow exponentially and without opposition.

Just to broaden your perspective you should consider that the European countries withdrew from the Middle East militarily at the same time that European fighters began to join ISIS in great numbers.

__________________________________________________________________________

Not long after the coward Obama cut and ran from Iraq giving ISIS a clear path to grow exponentially and wreak havoc and death.

It was also a campaign promise to end the Iraq War. Since McCain was solidly pro-war one can say this was one of the reasons President Obama was elected.

Bush's surge should have ensured what was then the coals of ISIS were out and not simmering. Bush was responsible for ISIS mainly because he disbanded the military and then these soldiers formed their own army. It was a very stupid move and the world is still living with the outcome of that stupidity.

You guys need to accept the fact that while you are enamored with guns you suck at wars.

You still got that ankle holster?

_______________________________________________________________________

“Bush's surge should have ensured what was then the coals of ISIS were out and not simmering.”
- Crap. ISIS did not exist in 2007/08. Some of the what was 600 or so remaining Al Qaeda in Iraq and a few others had a free hand after Obama cut and ran to form ISIS.

The rest of your post is nothing more than common liberal weakness.

I guess you are too dumb to accept reality bush set the timeline for american troops exiting iraq. also the removal of saddam gave birth to isil in iraq.

[Edited on 11/21/2015 by pops42]

_________________________________________________________________________

Not according to anyone who is informed and has the ability to apply critical thinking.
You have never demonstrated either trait.

Here you go pops. Learn something:

On the Origin of ISIS
http://www.hudson.org/research/10584-on-the-origin-of-isis

[Edited on 11/21/2015 by Muleman1994]

I guess you are too lazy and stupid to read your own link son 😛 maybe have dr carson fix that "coat hanger" lobotomy of yours.

_______________________________________________________________________

You claimed:
"bush set the timeline for american troops exiting iraq. also the removal of saddam gave birth to isil in iraq."

The facts, well reported show you are a fool.

BTW - I hear Dr. Carson turned down your brain surgery case. Nothing found to work on.

Wrong again.

http://world.time.com/2011/10/21/iraq-not-obama-called-time-on-the-u-s-troop-presence/

n one of his final acts in office, President Bush in December of 2008 had signed a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) with the Iraqi government that set the clock ticking on ending the war he’d launched in March of 2003. The SOFA provided a legal basis for the presence of U.S. forces in Iraq after the United Nations Security Council mandate for the occupation mission expired at the end of 2008. But it required that all U.S. forces be gone from Iraq by January 1, 2012, unless the Iraqi government was willing to negotiate a new agreement that would extend their mandate. And as Middle East historian Juan Cole has noted, “Bush had to sign what the [Iraqi] parliament gave him or face the prospect that U.S. troops would have to leave by 31 December, 2008, something that would have been interpreted as a defeat… Bush and his generals clearly expected, however, that over time Washington would be able to wriggle out of the treaty and would find a way to keep a division or so in Iraq past that deadline.”

Here is another link for you to ignore

http://www.cfr.org/iraq/us-security-agreements-iraq/p16448

And then there is this pdf of the actual treaty which you will also ignore, but if you scroll to the end you will see that it was signed on November 17 2008 when Bush was still president.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/122074.pdf

[Edited on 11/21/2015 by jkeller]

i tend to think that is because of media, constantly being told something bad is going to happen.

[Edited on 11/18/2015 by LeglizHemp]

__________________________________________________________________________

Or is it because something bad just did happen?

The bad thing that just happened is because Obama let ISIS establish itself and grow exponentially and without opposition.

Just to broaden your perspective you should consider that the European countries withdrew from the Middle East militarily at the same time that European fighters began to join ISIS in great numbers.

__________________________________________________________________________

Not long after the coward Obama cut and ran from Iraq giving ISIS a clear path to grow exponentially and wreak havoc and death.

It was also a campaign promise to end the Iraq War. Since McCain was solidly pro-war one can say this was one of the reasons President Obama was elected.

Bush's surge should have ensured what was then the coals of ISIS were out and not simmering. Bush was responsible for ISIS mainly because he disbanded the military and then these soldiers formed their own army. It was a very stupid move and the world is still living with the outcome of that stupidity.

You guys need to accept the fact that while you are enamored with guns you suck at wars.

You still got that ankle holster?

_______________________________________________________________________

“Bush's surge should have ensured what was then the coals of ISIS were out and not simmering.”
- Crap. ISIS did not exist in 2007/08. Some of the what was 600 or so remaining Al Qaeda in Iraq and a few others had a free hand after Obama cut and ran to form ISIS.

The rest of your post is nothing more than common liberal weakness.

I guess you are too dumb to accept reality bush set the timeline for american troops exiting iraq. also the removal of saddam gave birth to isil in iraq.

[Edited on 11/21/2015 by pops42]

_________________________________________________________________________

Not according to anyone who is informed and has the ability to apply critical thinking.
You have never demonstrated either trait.

Here you go pops. Learn something:

On the Origin of ISIS
http://www.hudson.org/research/10584-on-the-origin-of-isis

[Edited on 11/21/2015 by Muleman1994]

I guess you are too lazy and stupid to read your own link son 😛 maybe have dr carson fix that "coat hanger" lobotomy of yours.

_______________________________________________________________________

You claimed:
"bush set the timeline for american troops exiting iraq. also the removal of saddam gave birth to isil in iraq."

The facts, well reported show you are a fool.

BTW - I hear Dr. Carson turned down your brain surgery case. Nothing found to work on.

Wrong again.

http://world.time.com/2011/10/21/iraq-not-obama-called-time-on-the-u-s-troop-presence/

n one of his final acts in office, President Bush in December of 2008 had signed a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) with the Iraqi government that set the clock ticking on ending the war he’d launched in March of 2003. The SOFA provided a legal basis for the presence of U.S. forces in Iraq after the United Nations Security Council mandate for the occupation mission expired at the end of 2008. But it required that all U.S. forces be gone from Iraq by January 1, 2012, unless the Iraqi government was willing to negotiate a new agreement that would extend their mandate. And as Middle East historian Juan Cole has noted, “Bush had to sign what the [Iraqi] parliament gave him or face the prospect that U.S. troops would have to leave by 31 December, 2008, something that would have been interpreted as a defeat… Bush and his generals clearly expected, however, that over time Washington would be able to wriggle out of the treaty and would find a way to keep a division or so in Iraq past that deadline.”

Here is another link for you to ignore

http://www.cfr.org/iraq/us-security-agreements-iraq/p16448

And then there is this pdf of the actual treaty which you will also ignore, but if you scroll to the end you will see that it was signed on November 17 2008 when Bush was still president.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/122074.pdf

[Edited on 11/21/2015 by jkeller]

______________________________________________________________________

The WP has been through this before and I proved it wrong and its spin crap.
You are late to the game again son.

i tend to think that is because of media, constantly being told something bad is going to happen.

[Edited on 11/18/2015 by LeglizHemp]

__________________________________________________________________________

Or is it because something bad just did happen?

The bad thing that just happened is because Obama let ISIS establish itself and grow exponentially and without opposition.

Just to broaden your perspective you should consider that the European countries withdrew from the Middle East militarily at the same time that European fighters began to join ISIS in great numbers.

__________________________________________________________________________

Not long after the coward Obama cut and ran from Iraq giving ISIS a clear path to grow exponentially and wreak havoc and death.

It was also a campaign promise to end the Iraq War. Since McCain was solidly pro-war one can say this was one of the reasons President Obama was elected.

Bush's surge should have ensured what was then the coals of ISIS were out and not simmering. Bush was responsible for ISIS mainly because he disbanded the military and then these soldiers formed their own army. It was a very stupid move and the world is still living with the outcome of that stupidity.

You guys need to accept the fact that while you are enamored with guns you suck at wars.

You still got that ankle holster?

_______________________________________________________________________

“Bush's surge should have ensured what was then the coals of ISIS were out and not simmering.”
- Crap. ISIS did not exist in 2007/08. Some of the what was 600 or so remaining Al Qaeda in Iraq and a few others had a free hand after Obama cut and ran to form ISIS.

The rest of your post is nothing more than common liberal weakness.

I guess you are too dumb to accept reality bush set the timeline for american troops exiting iraq. also the removal of saddam gave birth to isil in iraq.

[Edited on 11/21/2015 by pops42]

_________________________________________________________________________

Not according to anyone who is informed and has the ability to apply critical thinking.
You have never demonstrated either trait.

Here you go pops. Learn something:

On the Origin of ISIS
http://www.hudson.org/research/10584-on-the-origin-of-isis

[Edited on 11/21/2015 by Muleman1994]

I guess you are too lazy and stupid to read your own link son 😛 maybe have dr carson fix that "coat hanger" lobotomy of yours.

_______________________________________________________________________

You claimed:
"bush set the timeline for american troops exiting iraq. also the removal of saddam gave birth to isil in iraq."

The facts, well reported show you are a fool.

BTW - I hear Dr. Carson turned down your brain surgery case. Nothing found to work on.

Wrong again.

http://world.time.com/2011/10/21/iraq-not-obama-called-time-on-the-u-s-troop-presence/

n one of his final acts in office, President Bush in December of 2008 had signed a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) with the Iraqi government that set the clock ticking on ending the war he’d launched in March of 2003. The SOFA provided a legal basis for the presence of U.S. forces in Iraq after the United Nations Security Council mandate for the occupation mission expired at the end of 2008. But it required that all U.S. forces be gone from Iraq by January 1, 2012, unless the Iraqi government was willing to negotiate a new agreement that would extend their mandate. And as Middle East historian Juan Cole has noted, “Bush had to sign what the [Iraqi] parliament gave him or face the prospect that U.S. troops would have to leave by 31 December, 2008, something that would have been interpreted as a defeat… Bush and his generals clearly expected, however, that over time Washington would be able to wriggle out of the treaty and would find a way to keep a division or so in Iraq past that deadline.”

Here is another link for you to ignore

http://www.cfr.org/iraq/us-security-agreements-iraq/p16448

And then there is this pdf of the actual treaty which you will also ignore, but if you scroll to the end you will see that it was signed on November 17 2008 when Bush was still president.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/122074.pdf

[Edited on 11/21/2015 by jkeller]

______________________________________________________________________

The WP has been through this before and I proved it wrong and its spin crap.
You are late to the game again son.

So, according to you, the actual SOFA agreement is a lie? How is that possible? You have reached a whole new level of derangement. Congratulations. 😛

i tend to think that is because of media, constantly being told something bad is going to happen.

[Edited on 11/18/2015 by LeglizHemp]

__________________________________________________________________________

Or is it because something bad just did happen?

The bad thing that just happened is because Obama let ISIS establish itself and grow exponentially and without opposition.

Just to broaden your perspective you should consider that the European countries withdrew from the Middle East militarily at the same time that European fighters began to join ISIS in great numbers.

__________________________________________________________________________

Not long after the coward Obama cut and ran from Iraq giving ISIS a clear path to grow exponentially and wreak havoc and death.

It was also a campaign promise to end the Iraq War. Since McCain was solidly pro-war one can say this was one of the reasons President Obama was elected.

Bush's surge should have ensured what was then the coals of ISIS were out and not simmering. Bush was responsible for ISIS mainly because he disbanded the military and then these soldiers formed their own army. It was a very stupid move and the world is still living with the outcome of that stupidity.

You guys need to accept the fact that while you are enamored with guns you suck at wars.

You still got that ankle holster?

_______________________________________________________________________

“Bush's surge should have ensured what was then the coals of ISIS were out and not simmering.”
- Crap. ISIS did not exist in 2007/08. Some of the what was 600 or so remaining Al Qaeda in Iraq and a few others had a free hand after Obama cut and ran to form ISIS.

The rest of your post is nothing more than common liberal weakness.

I guess you are too dumb to accept reality bush set the timeline for american troops exiting iraq. also the removal of saddam gave birth to isil in iraq.

[Edited on 11/21/2015 by pops42]

_________________________________________________________________________

Not according to anyone who is informed and has the ability to apply critical thinking.
You have never demonstrated either trait.

Here you go pops. Learn something:

On the Origin of ISIS
http://www.hudson.org/research/10584-on-the-origin-of-isis

[Edited on 11/21/2015 by Muleman1994]

I guess you are too lazy and stupid to read your own link son 😛 maybe have dr carson fix that "coat hanger" lobotomy of yours.

_______________________________________________________________________

You claimed:
"bush set the timeline for american troops exiting iraq. also the removal of saddam gave birth to isil in iraq."

The facts, well reported show you are a fool.

BTW - I hear Dr. Carson turned down your brain surgery case. Nothing found to work on.

Wrong again.

http://world.time.com/2011/10/21/iraq-not-obama-called-time-on-the-u-s-troop-presence/

n one of his final acts in office, President Bush in December of 2008 had signed a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) with the Iraqi government that set the clock ticking on ending the war he’d launched in March of 2003. The SOFA provided a legal basis for the presence of U.S. forces in Iraq after the United Nations Security Council mandate for the occupation mission expired at the end of 2008. But it required that all U.S. forces be gone from Iraq by January 1, 2012, unless the Iraqi government was willing to negotiate a new agreement that would extend their mandate. And as Middle East historian Juan Cole has noted, “Bush had to sign what the [Iraqi] parliament gave him or face the prospect that U.S. troops would have to leave by 31 December, 2008, something that would have been interpreted as a defeat… Bush and his generals clearly expected, however, that over time Washington would be able to wriggle out of the treaty and would find a way to keep a division or so in Iraq past that deadline.”

Here is another link for you to ignore

http://www.cfr.org/iraq/us-security-agreements-iraq/p16448

And then there is this pdf of the actual treaty which you will also ignore, but if you scroll to the end you will see that it was signed on November 17 2008 when Bush was still president.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/122074.pdf

[Edited on 11/21/2015 by jkeller]

______________________________________________________________________

The WP has been through this before and I proved it wrong and its spin crap.
You are late to the game again son.

So, according to you, the actual SOFA agreement is a lie? How is that possible? You have reached a whole new level of derangement. Congratulations. 😛

_________________________________________________________________________

Already answered son.
The WP has been through this before and I proved it wrong and its spin crap.

i tend to think that is because of media, constantly being told something bad is going to happen.

[Edited on 11/18/2015 by LeglizHemp]

__________________________________________________________________________

Or is it because something bad just did happen?

The bad thing that just happened is because Obama let ISIS establish itself and grow exponentially and without opposition.

Just to broaden your perspective you should consider that the European countries withdrew from the Middle East militarily at the same time that European fighters began to join ISIS in great numbers.

__________________________________________________________________________

Not long after the coward Obama cut and ran from Iraq giving ISIS a clear path to grow exponentially and wreak havoc and death.

It was also a campaign promise to end the Iraq War. Since McCain was solidly pro-war one can say this was one of the reasons President Obama was elected.

Bush's surge should have ensured what was then the coals of ISIS were out and not simmering. Bush was responsible for ISIS mainly because he disbanded the military and then these soldiers formed their own army. It was a very stupid move and the world is still living with the outcome of that stupidity.

You guys need to accept the fact that while you are enamored with guns you suck at wars.

You still got that ankle holster?

_______________________________________________________________________

“Bush's surge should have ensured what was then the coals of ISIS were out and not simmering.”
- Crap. ISIS did not exist in 2007/08. Some of the what was 600 or so remaining Al Qaeda in Iraq and a few others had a free hand after Obama cut and ran to form ISIS.

The rest of your post is nothing more than common liberal weakness.

I guess you are too dumb to accept reality bush set the timeline for american troops exiting iraq. also the removal of saddam gave birth to isil in iraq.

[Edited on 11/21/2015 by pops42]

_________________________________________________________________________

Not according to anyone who is informed and has the ability to apply critical thinking.
You have never demonstrated either trait.

Here you go pops. Learn something:

On the Origin of ISIS
http://www.hudson.org/research/10584-on-the-origin-of-isis

[Edited on 11/21/2015 by Muleman1994]

I guess you are too lazy and stupid to read your own link son 😛 maybe have dr carson fix that "coat hanger" lobotomy of yours.

_______________________________________________________________________

You claimed:
"bush set the timeline for american troops exiting iraq. also the removal of saddam gave birth to isil in iraq."

The facts, well reported show you are a fool.

BTW - I hear Dr. Carson turned down your brain surgery case. Nothing found to work on.

Wrong again.

http://world.time.com/2011/10/21/iraq-not-obama-called-time-on-the-u-s-troop-presence/

n one of his final acts in office, President Bush in December of 2008 had signed a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) with the Iraqi government that set the clock ticking on ending the war he’d launched in March of 2003. The SOFA provided a legal basis for the presence of U.S. forces in Iraq after the United Nations Security Council mandate for the occupation mission expired at the end of 2008. But it required that all U.S. forces be gone from Iraq by January 1, 2012, unless the Iraqi government was willing to negotiate a new agreement that would extend their mandate. And as Middle East historian Juan Cole has noted, “Bush had to sign what the [Iraqi] parliament gave him or face the prospect that U.S. troops would have to leave by 31 December, 2008, something that would have been interpreted as a defeat… Bush and his generals clearly expected, however, that over time Washington would be able to wriggle out of the treaty and would find a way to keep a division or so in Iraq past that deadline.”

Here is another link for you to ignore

http://www.cfr.org/iraq/us-security-agreements-iraq/p16448

And then there is this pdf of the actual treaty which you will also ignore, but if you scroll to the end you will see that it was signed on November 17 2008 when Bush was still president.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/122074.pdf

[Edited on 11/21/2015 by jkeller]

______________________________________________________________________

The WP has been through this before and I proved it wrong and its spin crap.
You are late to the game again son.

So, according to you, the actual SOFA agreement is a lie? How is that possible? You have reached a whole new level of derangement. Congratulations. 😛

_________________________________________________________________________

Already answered son.
The WP has been through this before and I proved it wrong and its spin crap.

The only things you ever proved were that you don't know what you are talking about and you are a liar. Oh, and you are to lazy to read your own links. 😛

i tend to think that is because of media, constantly being told something bad is going to happen.

[Edited on 11/18/2015 by LeglizHemp]

__________________________________________________________________________

Or is it because something bad just did happen?

The bad thing that just happened is because Obama let ISIS establish itself and grow exponentially and without opposition.

Just to broaden your perspective you should consider that the European countries withdrew from the Middle East militarily at the same time that European fighters began to join ISIS in great numbers.

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Not long after the coward Obama cut and ran from Iraq giving ISIS a clear path to grow exponentially and wreak havoc and death.

It was also a campaign promise to end the Iraq War. Since McCain was solidly pro-war one can say this was one of the reasons President Obama was elected.

Bush's surge should have ensured what was then the coals of ISIS were out and not simmering. Bush was responsible for ISIS mainly because he disbanded the military and then these soldiers formed their own army. It was a very stupid move and the world is still living with the outcome of that stupidity.

You guys need to accept the fact that while you are enamored with guns you suck at wars.

You still got that ankle holster?

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“Bush's surge should have ensured what was then the coals of ISIS were out and not simmering.”
- Crap. ISIS did not exist in 2007/08. Some of the what was 600 or so remaining Al Qaeda in Iraq and a few others had a free hand after Obama cut and ran to form ISIS.

The rest of your post is nothing more than common liberal weakness.

I guess you are too dumb to accept reality bush set the timeline for american troops exiting iraq. also the removal of saddam gave birth to isil in iraq.

[Edited on 11/21/2015 by pops42]

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Not according to anyone who is informed and has the ability to apply critical thinking.
You have never demonstrated either trait.

Here you go pops. Learn something:

On the Origin of ISIS
http://www.hudson.org/research/10584-on-the-origin-of-isis

[Edited on 11/21/2015 by Muleman1994]

I guess you are too lazy and stupid to read your own link son 😛 maybe have dr carson fix that "coat hanger" lobotomy of yours.

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You claimed:
"bush set the timeline for american troops exiting iraq. also the removal of saddam gave birth to isil in iraq."

The facts, well reported show you are a fool.

BTW - I hear Dr. Carson turned down your brain surgery case. Nothing found to work on.

Wrong again.

http://world.time.com/2011/10/21/iraq-not-obama-called-time-on-the-u-s-troop-presence/

n one of his final acts in office, President Bush in December of 2008 had signed a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) with the Iraqi government that set the clock ticking on ending the war he’d launched in March of 2003. The SOFA provided a legal basis for the presence of U.S. forces in Iraq after the United Nations Security Council mandate for the occupation mission expired at the end of 2008. But it required that all U.S. forces be gone from Iraq by January 1, 2012, unless the Iraqi government was willing to negotiate a new agreement that would extend their mandate. And as Middle East historian Juan Cole has noted, “Bush had to sign what the [Iraqi] parliament gave him or face the prospect that U.S. troops would have to leave by 31 December, 2008, something that would have been interpreted as a defeat… Bush and his generals clearly expected, however, that over time Washington would be able to wriggle out of the treaty and would find a way to keep a division or so in Iraq past that deadline.”

Here is another link for you to ignore

http://www.cfr.org/iraq/us-security-agreements-iraq/p16448

And then there is this pdf of the actual treaty which you will also ignore, but if you scroll to the end you will see that it was signed on November 17 2008 when Bush was still president.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/122074.pdf

[Edited on 11/21/2015 by jkeller]

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The WP has been through this before and I proved it wrong and its spin crap.
You are late to the game again son.

So, according to you, the actual SOFA agreement is a lie? How is that possible? You have reached a whole new level of derangement. Congratulations. 😛

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Already answered son.
The WP has been through this before and I proved it wrong and its spin crap.

The only things you ever proved were that you don't know what you are talking about and you are a liar. Oh, and you are to lazy to read your own links. 😛

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The link I posted, from a liberal, clearly details how ISIS was born from Obama cutting and running from Iraq and Obama's subsequent failures allow ISIS to grow.

i tend to think that is because of media, constantly being told something bad is going to happen.

[Edited on 11/18/2015 by LeglizHemp]

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Or is it because something bad just did happen?

The bad thing that just happened is because Obama let ISIS establish itself and grow exponentially and without opposition.

Just to broaden your perspective you should consider that the European countries withdrew from the Middle East militarily at the same time that European fighters began to join ISIS in great numbers.

__________________________________________________________________________

Not long after the coward Obama cut and ran from Iraq giving ISIS a clear path to grow exponentially and wreak havoc and death.

It was also a campaign promise to end the Iraq War. Since McCain was solidly pro-war one can say this was one of the reasons President Obama was elected.

Bush's surge should have ensured what was then the coals of ISIS were out and not simmering. Bush was responsible for ISIS mainly because he disbanded the military and then these soldiers formed their own army. It was a very stupid move and the world is still living with the outcome of that stupidity.

You guys need to accept the fact that while you are enamored with guns you suck at wars.

You still got that ankle holster?

_______________________________________________________________________

“Bush's surge should have ensured what was then the coals of ISIS were out and not simmering.”
- Crap. ISIS did not exist in 2007/08. Some of the what was 600 or so remaining Al Qaeda in Iraq and a few others had a free hand after Obama cut and ran to form ISIS.

The rest of your post is nothing more than common liberal weakness.

I guess you are too dumb to accept reality bush set the timeline for american troops exiting iraq. also the removal of saddam gave birth to isil in iraq.

[Edited on 11/21/2015 by pops42]

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Not according to anyone who is informed and has the ability to apply critical thinking.
You have never demonstrated either trait.

Here you go pops. Learn something:

On the Origin of ISIS
http://www.hudson.org/research/10584-on-the-origin-of-isis

[Edited on 11/21/2015 by Muleman1994]

I guess you are too lazy and stupid to read your own link son 😛 maybe have dr carson fix that "coat hanger" lobotomy of yours.

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You claimed:
"bush set the timeline for american troops exiting iraq. also the removal of saddam gave birth to isil in iraq."

The facts, well reported show you are a fool.

BTW - I hear Dr. Carson turned down your brain surgery case. Nothing found to work on.

Wrong again.

http://world.time.com/2011/10/21/iraq-not-obama-called-time-on-the-u-s-troop-presence/

n one of his final acts in office, President Bush in December of 2008 had signed a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) with the Iraqi government that set the clock ticking on ending the war he’d launched in March of 2003. The SOFA provided a legal basis for the presence of U.S. forces in Iraq after the United Nations Security Council mandate for the occupation mission expired at the end of 2008. But it required that all U.S. forces be gone from Iraq by January 1, 2012, unless the Iraqi government was willing to negotiate a new agreement that would extend their mandate. And as Middle East historian Juan Cole has noted, “Bush had to sign what the [Iraqi] parliament gave him or face the prospect that U.S. troops would have to leave by 31 December, 2008, something that would have been interpreted as a defeat… Bush and his generals clearly expected, however, that over time Washington would be able to wriggle out of the treaty and would find a way to keep a division or so in Iraq past that deadline.”

Here is another link for you to ignore

http://www.cfr.org/iraq/us-security-agreements-iraq/p16448

And then there is this pdf of the actual treaty which you will also ignore, but if you scroll to the end you will see that it was signed on November 17 2008 when Bush was still president.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/122074.pdf

[Edited on 11/21/2015 by jkeller]

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The WP has been through this before and I proved it wrong and its spin crap.
You are late to the game again son.

So, according to you, the actual SOFA agreement is a lie? How is that possible? You have reached a whole new level of derangement. Congratulations. 😛

_________________________________________________________________________

Already answered son.
The WP has been through this before and I proved it wrong and its spin crap.

The only things you ever proved were that you don't know what you are talking about and you are a liar. Oh, and you are to lazy to read your own links. 😛

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The link I posted, from a liberal, clearly details how ISIS was born from Obama cutting and running from Iraq and Obama's subsequent failures allow ISIS to grow.

The link you posted clearly showed that ISIS formed after Saddaam was deposed and it was started by his former military leaders as I quoted. If the link says something different, why don't you show me? Don't tell me you won't do my research for me. I read it, quoted it, and proved you wrong. You never even read it. If you did, you didn't understand it. What did you do, Google "ISIS Obama" and come up with that link? Obama is mentioned, but not as the reason ISIS was formed. DOH! 😛 😛

Cute picture. But you already posted this link:

http://www.hudson.org/research/10584-on-the-origin-of-isis
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Which said this:

ccordingly, it might be most useful to see the current sectarian conflagration tearing through the Middle East as an extension of the Iran-Iraq war. After that nearly decade-long conflict (1980-1988), Saddam Hussein, ever fearful of coups, liquidated senior army officers who’d emerged from the war as heroes. One such officer was his cousin, childhood friend, and brother-in-law, Defense Minister Adnan Khairallah Talfah. Having thus hollowed out the Iraqi army, Saddam built special units, like the Republican Guards and Fedayeen Saddam, that were well trained in espionage work and explosives. After the U.S.-led invasion in 2003, some of these officers, along with others from Saddam’s M4 directorate of the Iraqi intelligence service, joined the insurgency against coalition forces and Iraq’s new Shiite-dominated ruling order, which from their perspective was a collaborative American and Iranian affair.

So you have already shown that your little cartoon is factually incorrect.

Cute picture. But you already posted this link:

http://www.hudson.org/research/10584-on-the-origin-of-isis
/a>

Which said this:

ccordingly, it might be most useful to see the current sectarian conflagration tearing through the Middle East as an extension of the Iran-Iraq war. After that nearly decade-long conflict (1980-1988), Saddam Hussein, ever fearful of coups, liquidated senior army officers who’d emerged from the war as heroes. One such officer was his cousin, childhood friend, and brother-in-law, Defense Minister Adnan Khairallah Talfah. Having thus hollowed out the Iraqi army, Saddam built special units, like the Republican Guards and Fedayeen Saddam, that were well trained in espionage work and explosives. After the U.S.-led invasion in 2003, some of these officers, along with others from Saddam’s M4 directorate of the Iraqi intelligence service, joined the insurgency against coalition forces and Iraq’s new Shiite-dominated ruling order, which from their perspective was a collaborative American and Iranian affair.

So you have already shown that your little cartoon is factually incorrect.

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You forgot to read the salient point:

ISIS’s leader, Ibrahim Awwad al-Badri, is the self-proclaimed caliph, also known as Abu-Bakr al-Baghdadi, a 43-year-old jihadist from the Iraqi city of Samarra. During the American occupation, he was arrested on unclear charges, but deemed a low security threat and released after six months. Once out of jail, he joined Al Qaeda in Iraq, then under the leadership of the Jordanian Abu Musab al Zarqawi. Long before he proclaimed his caliphate, Baghdadi came to understand something that was lost on Zarqawi. As a member of the Banu Badr clan, Baghdadi saw that he needed to court the tribesmen on both sides of the Iraqi-Syrian border.

His strategy was greatly facilitated by the Obama administration’s December 2011 withdrawal from Iraq and the anti-Sunni policies pursued by the Shiite-dominated government in Baghdad. ISIS’s project was further aided by the Syrian uprising, which began in March 2011. Over the last three and half years, it has evolved into a civil war in which Syrian president Bashar al-Assad has slaughtered Sunnis. The White House and the rest of the international community have done nothing to stop him.

Proving yet again ISIS is a product of Obama's cut and run policy.

Muleman = Commie! Pinko! TRAITOR!!!

Cute picture. But you already posted this link:

http://www.hudson.org/research/10584-on-the-origin-of-isis
/a>

Which said this:

ccordingly, it might be most useful to see the current sectarian conflagration tearing through the Middle East as an extension of the Iran-Iraq war. After that nearly decade-long conflict (1980-1988), Saddam Hussein, ever fearful of coups, liquidated senior army officers who’d emerged from the war as heroes. One such officer was his cousin, childhood friend, and brother-in-law, Defense Minister Adnan Khairallah Talfah. Having thus hollowed out the Iraqi army, Saddam built special units, like the Republican Guards and Fedayeen Saddam, that were well trained in espionage work and explosives. After the U.S.-led invasion in 2003, some of these officers, along with others from Saddam’s M4 directorate of the Iraqi intelligence service, joined the insurgency against coalition forces and Iraq’s new Shiite-dominated ruling order, which from their perspective was a collaborative American and Iranian affair.

On the other side, Tehran’s first order of business in 2003 after Saddam had been toppled was to take revenge on the Iraqi military and intelligence personnel the Iranians had fought in the 1980s. Many of Iran’s allies in Iraq—including, some say, former prime minister Maliki—formed death squads to go after these officers. Saddam’s onetime officer corps went into hiding and used their expertise and money to wage war against the regime that had replaced them. When the United States, in partnership with major Sunni tribes, defeated the Sunni insurgency, American officials pleaded with Maliki to stop hunting the former Baathists and allow them to resettle peacefully in a post-Saddam Iraq. Maliki didn’t, nor did his allies. Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps officers like Quds Force commander and Iran-Iraq war veteran Qassem Suleimani as well as Iranian-backed militias like Asa’ib ahl al-Haq continued to prosecute their war against Iraq’s Sunni community. Eventually the Sunnis came to see ISIS as one of their few lines of defense against this Shiite persecution.

So you have already shown that your little cartoon is factually incorrect.

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You forgot to read the salient point:

ISIS’s leader, Ibrahim Awwad al-Badri, is the self-proclaimed caliph, also known as Abu-Bakr al-Baghdadi, a 43-year-old jihadist from the Iraqi city of Samarra. During the American occupation, he was arrested on unclear charges, but deemed a low security threat and released after six months. Once out of jail, he joined Al Qaeda in Iraq, then under the leadership of the Jordanian Abu Musab al Zarqawi. Long before he proclaimed his caliphate, Baghdadi came to understand something that was lost on Zarqawi. As a member of the Banu Badr clan, Baghdadi saw that he needed to court the tribesmen on both sides of the Iraqi-Syrian border.

His strategy was greatly facilitated by the Obama administration’s December 2011 withdrawal from Iraq and the anti-Sunni policies pursued by the Shiite-dominated government in Baghdad. ISIS’s project was further aided by the Syrian uprising, which began in March 2011. Over the last three and half years, it has evolved into a civil war in which Syrian president Bashar al-Assad has slaughtered Sunnis. The White House and the rest of the international community have done nothing to stop him.

Proving yet again ISIS is a product of Obama's cut and run policy.

Wrong. The article clearly states that ISIS started around 2003. Try to create a timeline. It is easy. 2003 occurred before 2011. In 2003 Bush was president. That is 6 years before Obama became president.

"facilitated by the Obama administration’s December 2011 withdrawal from Iraq"

"facilitated by the Obama administration’s December 2011 withdrawal from Iraq"

The entire sentence read "His strategy was greatly facilitated by the Obama administration’s December 2011 withdrawal from Iraq and the anti-Sunni policies pursued by the Shiite-dominated government in Baghdad. " Which means that he was alfeady up and running. And, as i have pointed out, Obama was pulling the troops out because of the agreement signed on 11/17/2008 which is before Obama was in office. You should really try reading the links you have been provided with, not to mention the links you put up. Thanks for proving me to be correct and you wrong again. Maybe you should just back away from this.

"facilitated by the Obama administration’s December 2011 withdrawal from Iraq"

The entire sentence read "His strategy was greatly facilitated by the Obama administration’s December 2011 withdrawal from Iraq and the anti-Sunni policies pursued by the Shiite-dominated government in Baghdad. " Which means that he was alfeady up and running. And, as i have pointed out, Obama was pulling the troops out because of the agreement signed on 11/17/2008 which is before Obama was in office. You should really try reading the links you have been provided with, not to mention the links you put up. Thanks for proving me to be correct and you wrong again. Maybe you should just back away from this.

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ISIS came about because Obama cut and ran from Iraq and then paid no attention to its rapid growth.

This is another reason Obama tries to call ISIS the JV and was humiliated for that naive view.

"facilitated by the Obama administration’s December 2011 withdrawal from Iraq"

The entire sentence read "His strategy was greatly facilitated by the Obama administration’s December 2011 withdrawal from Iraq and the anti-Sunni policies pursued by the Shiite-dominated government in Baghdad. " Which means that he was alfeady up and running. And, as i have pointed out, Obama was pulling the troops out because of the agreement signed on 11/17/2008 which is before Obama was in office. You should really try reading the links you have been provided with, not to mention the links you put up. Thanks for proving me to be correct and you wrong again. Maybe you should just back away from this.

________________________________________________________________________

ISIS came about because Obama cut and ran from Iraq and then paid no attention to its rapid growth.

This is another reason Obama tries to call ISIS the JV and was humiliated for that naive view.

You can ignore every fact I have provided, but it doesn't change reality. It just makes you look stupid. Have fun in your alternate reality.

"facilitated by the Obama administration’s December 2011 withdrawal from Iraq"

The entire sentence read "His strategy was greatly facilitated by the Obama administration’s December 2011 withdrawal from Iraq and the anti-Sunni policies pursued by the Shiite-dominated government in Baghdad. " Which means that he was alfeady up and running. And, as i have pointed out, Obama was pulling the troops out because of the agreement signed on 11/17/2008 which is before Obama was in office. You should really try reading the links you have been provided with, not to mention the links you put up. Thanks for proving me to be correct and you wrong again. Maybe you should just back away from this.

________________________________________________________________________

ISIS came about because Obama cut and ran from Iraq and then paid no attention to its rapid growth.

This is another reason Obama tries to call ISIS the JV and was humiliated for that naive view.

You can ignore every fact I have provided, but it doesn't change reality. It just makes you look stupid. Have fun in your alternate reality.

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I can and do ignore your bullshit.

When the facts are presented you misrepresent and distort them and continue to lie to try and provide cover for Obama's failures.

Take the liberal filter off your glasses and learn how to evaluate accurate information.

"facilitated by the Obama administration’s December 2011 withdrawal from Iraq"

The entire sentence read "His strategy was greatly facilitated by the Obama administration’s December 2011 withdrawal from Iraq and the anti-Sunni policies pursued by the Shiite-dominated government in Baghdad. " Which means that he was alfeady up and running. And, as i have pointed out, Obama was pulling the troops out because of the agreement signed on 11/17/2008 which is before Obama was in office. You should really try reading the links you have been provided with, not to mention the links you put up. Thanks for proving me to be correct and you wrong again. Maybe you should just back away from this.

________________________________________________________________________

ISIS came about because Obama cut and ran from Iraq and then paid no attention to its rapid growth.

This is another reason Obama tries to call ISIS the JV and was humiliated for that naive view.

You can ignore every fact I have provided, but it doesn't change reality. It just makes you look stupid. Have fun in your alternate reality.

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I can and do ignore your bullshit.

When the facts are presented you misrepresent and distort them and continue to lie to try and provide cover for Obama's failures.

Take the liberal filter off your glasses and learn how to evaluate accurate information.

You can ignore and lie all you want to. It just makes you look stupid.

"facilitated by the Obama administration’s December 2011 withdrawal from Iraq"

The entire sentence read "His strategy was greatly facilitated by the Obama administration’s December 2011 withdrawal from Iraq and the anti-Sunni policies pursued by the Shiite-dominated government in Baghdad. " Which means that he was alfeady up and running. And, as i have pointed out, Obama was pulling the troops out because of the agreement signed on 11/17/2008 which is before Obama was in office. You should really try reading the links you have been provided with, not to mention the links you put up. Thanks for proving me to be correct and you wrong again. Maybe you should just back away from this.

________________________________________________________________________

ISIS came about because Obama cut and ran from Iraq and then paid no attention to its rapid growth.

This is another reason Obama tries to call ISIS the JV and was humiliated for that naive view.

You can ignore every fact I have provided, but it doesn't change reality. It just makes you look stupid. Have fun in your alternate reality.

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I can and do ignore your bullshit.

When the facts are presented you misrepresent and distort them and continue to lie to try and provide cover for Obama's failures.

Take the liberal filter off your glasses and learn how to evaluate accurate information.

You can ignore and lie all you want to. It just makes you look stupid.

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You should really take another look at those Tarot cards.

Keep lying and looking stupid, mule. It is what you do best. 😛

I see we are still waiting for pops to make a comment or offer opinion of the thread in which he is posting...

A clear view of Obama's foreign policy failure(s):

Obama’s phony war
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/obamas-phony-war/2015/11/19/cacea0dc-8eeb-11e5-ae1f-af46b7df8483_story.html
By Charles Krauthammer November 19, 2015

Tell me: What’s a suicide bomber doing with a passport? He’s not going anywhere. And, though I’m not a religious scholar, I doubt that a passport is required in paradise for a martyr to access his 72 black-eyed virgins.

A Syrian passport was found near the body of one of the terrorists. Why was it there?

Undoubtedly, to back up the ISIS boast that it is infiltrating operatives amid the refugees flooding Europe. The passport may have been fake, but the terrorist’s fingerprints were not. They match those of a man who just a month earlier had come through Greece on his way to kill Frenchmen in Paris.

If the other goal of the Paris massacre was to frighten France out of the air campaign in Syria — the way Spain withdrew from the Iraq war after the terrorist attack on its trains in 2004 — they picked the wrong country. France is a serious post-colonial power, as demonstrated in Ivory Coast, the Central African Republic and Mali, which France saved from an Islamist takeover in 2013.

Indeed, socialist President François Hollande has responded furiously to his country’s 9/11 with an intensified air campaign, hundreds of raids on suspected domestic terrorists, a state of emergency and proposed changes in the constitution to make France less hospitable to jihad.

Meanwhile, Barack Obama, titular head of the free world, has responded to Paris with weariness and annoyance. His news conference in Turkey was marked by a stunning tone of passivity, detachment and lassitude, compounded by impatience and irritability at the very suggestion that his Syria strategy might be failing.

The only time he showed any passion was in denouncing Republicans for hardheartedness toward Muslim refugees. One hundred and twenty-nine innocents lie dead, but it takes the GOP to kindle Obama’s ire.

The rest was mere petulance, dismissing criticisms of his Syria policy as popping off.

Inconveniently for Obama, one of those popper-offers is Dianne Feinstein, the leading Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee. She directly contradicted Obama’s blithe assertion, offered the day before the Paris attack, that the Islamic State (a.k.a. ISIL) was contained and not gaining strength. “I have never been more concerned,” said Feinstein. “ISIL is not contained. ISIL is expanding.”

Obama defended his policy by listing its multifaceted elements. Such as, “I hosted at the United Nations an entire discussion of counterterrorism strategies and curbing the flow of foreign fighters.” An “entire” discussion, mind you. Not a partial one. They tremble in Raqqa.
And “We have mobilized 65 countries to go after ISIL.” Yes, and what would we do without Luxembourg?

Obama complained of being criticized for not being bellicose enough. But the complaint is not about an absence of bellicosity but about an absence of passion, of urgency and of commitment to the fight. The air campaign over Syria averages seven strikes a day. Seven. In Operation Desert Storm, we flew 1,100 sorties a day. Even in the Kosovo campaign, we averaged 138. Obama is doing just enough in Syria to give the appearance of motion, yet not nearly enough to have any chance of success.

Obama’s priorities lie elsewhere. For example, climate change, which he considers the greatest “threat to our future.” And, of course, closing Guantanamo. Obama actually released five detainees on the day after the Paris massacre. He is passionate about Guantanamo. It’s a great terrorist recruiting tool, he repeatedly explains. Obama still seems to believe that — even as ISIS has produced an astonishing wave of terrorist recruitment with a campaign of brutality, butchery and enslavement filmed in living color. Who can still believe that young Muslims are leaving Europe to join the Islamic State because of Guantanamo?

Obama’s other passion is protecting Islam from any possible association with “violent extremism.” The Islamic State is nothing but “killers with fantasies of glory.” Obama can never bring himself to acknowledge why these people kill and willingly die: to advance a radical Islamist millenarianism that is purposeful, indeed eschatological — and appealing enough to have created the largest, most dangerous terrorist movement on Earth.

Hollande is trying to gather a real coalition to destroy the Islamic State, even as Obama touts his phony 65. For 11?post-World War II presidencies, coalition leading has been the role of the United States. Where is America today? Awaiting a president. The next president.

Krauthammer - now there's an impartial source......... LOL

Couldn't find a cartoon to post? 😛

"facilitated by the Obama administration’s December 2011 withdrawal from Iraq"

The entire sentence read "His strategy was greatly facilitated by the Obama administration’s December 2011 withdrawal from Iraq and the anti-Sunni policies pursued by the Shiite-dominated government in Baghdad. " Which means that he was alfeady up and running. And, as i have pointed out, Obama was pulling the troops out because of the agreement signed on 11/17/2008 which is before Obama was in office. You should really try reading the links you have been provided with, not to mention the links you put up. Thanks for proving me to be correct and you wrong again. Maybe you should just back away from this.

________________________________________________________________________

ISIS came about because Obama cut and ran from Iraq and then paid no attention to its rapid growth.

This is another reason Obama tries to call ISIS the JV and was humiliated for that naive view.

You can ignore every fact I have provided, but it doesn't change reality. It just makes you look stupid. Have fun in your alternate reality.

You've got to wonder if Mule actually thinks he is convincing anybody of anything. He is proven wrong and a liar over and over. Does he actually believe the stuff he posts? Is he that dumb? The facts here are proven that the timetable for withdrawal was Bush's and that ISIS existed when Bush was in office, yet somehow Obama was the one who cut and ran and Obama created ISIS? Since we are blaming Obama for things that happened before he was president, maybe you should blame him for the US cut and running in Beruit and the creation of Taliban as well.