
Your cute little graphic doesn’t mention the fact that France did join President Bush’s coalition to fight against terrorism and actively participated.
France opposed the Iraq invasion (the primary reason why there was no UN resolution about the invasion even brought to a vote was because France would have vetoed it) and the graphic is an accurate representation of the reactions of the individuals noted.
_______________________________________________________________________Your cute little graphic does not include the word Iraq.
France most certainly joined in The War on Terrorism.The UN? Now that is funny. The UN became irrelevant long ago.

Mule still hasn't answered the question on whether he was willing to have his taxes raised to whatever level is needed to pay for the war. If you are a fiscal conservative then surely you don't think we can pay for more wars on the credit card.
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The debt doesn't matter to Obama. He has added more to the national debt than all previous President combined.
Apparently it doesn't matter to you either if you refuse to answer the question. So we can stop hearing you complain about debt now.
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I have no reason to answer such a stupid and irrelevant question. You r question reflects your sense well, removed from reality
Now that is funny. Liberals are feigning concern about the national debt, while Obama has added more to the national debt that all previous presidents combined.

Your cute little graphic doesn’t mention the fact that France did join President Bush’s coalition to fight against terrorism and actively participated.
France opposed the Iraq invasion (the primary reason why there was no UN resolution about the invasion even brought to a vote was because France would have vetoed it) and the graphic is an accurate representation of the reactions of the individuals noted.
_______________________________________________________________________Your cute little graphic does not include the word Iraq.
France most certainly joined in The War on Terrorism.The UN? Now that is funny. The UN became irrelevant long ago.
Wow, are you really this big a fool, or is it that you just can't read?
The first 15 words in the graphic are this (bold and underline added for emphasis): "In 2003 the haters attacked France because the French refused to join the Iraq invasion"
[Edited on 11/17/2015 by gondicar]

Your cute little graphic doesn’t mention the fact that France did join President Bush’s coalition to fight against terrorism and actively participated.
France opposed the Iraq invasion (the primary reason why there was no UN resolution about the invasion even brought to a vote was because France would have vetoed it) and the graphic is an accurate representation of the reactions of the individuals noted.
_______________________________________________________________________Your cute little graphic does not include the word Iraq.
France most certainly joined in The War on Terrorism.The UN? Now that is funny. The UN became irrelevant long ago.
Wow, are you really this big a fool, or is it that you just can't read?
The first 15 words in the graphic are this (bold and underline added for emphasis): "In 2003 the haters attacked France because the French refused to join the Iraq invasion"
_________________________________________________________________________The word Iraq is in the commentary, not in any of those loosely quoted.

Your cute little graphic doesn’t mention the fact that France did join President Bush’s coalition to fight against terrorism and actively participated.
France opposed the Iraq invasion (the primary reason why there was no UN resolution about the invasion even brought to a vote was because France would have vetoed it) and the graphic is an accurate representation of the reactions of the individuals noted.
_______________________________________________________________________Your cute little graphic does not include the word Iraq.
France most certainly joined in The War on Terrorism.The UN? Now that is funny. The UN became irrelevant long ago.
Wow, are you really this big a fool, or is it that you just can't read?
The first 15 words in the graphic are this (bold and underline added for emphasis): "In 2003 the haters attacked France because the French refused to join the Iraq invasion"
_________________________________________________________________________The word Iraq is in the commentary, not in any of those loosely quoted.

Your cute little graphic doesn’t mention the fact that France did join President Bush’s coalition to fight against terrorism and actively participated.
France opposed the Iraq invasion (the primary reason why there was no UN resolution about the invasion even brought to a vote was because France would have vetoed it) and the graphic is an accurate representation of the reactions of the individuals noted.
_______________________________________________________________________Your cute little graphic does not include the word Iraq.
France most certainly joined in The War on Terrorism.The UN? Now that is funny. The UN became irrelevant long ago.
Wow, are you really this big a fool, or is it that you just can't read?
The first 15 words in the graphic are this (bold and underline added for emphasis): "In 2003 the haters attacked France because the French refused to join the Iraq invasion"
_________________________________________________________________________The word Iraq is in the commentary, not in any of those loosely quoted.
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Words matter.
The Islamic Extremist Terrorists know Obama is weak and are exploiting that fact as they continue to grow and win.

It's becoming quite clear that a lot of things posted around here recently don't even deserve the dignity of an answer, but outright lies do deserve calling out from time to time.
+1
I'm trying, but when there are so many it is difficult to choose which one to respond to and which to ignore.
You guys would look far less foolish if you just write him off as hopeless and move on. What do you hope to achieve by responding to him? You can't win, he lives alone on another planet.
And you would look far less foolish if you just wrote us all off as hopeless and move on. Yet here you are.


It's becoming quite clear that a lot of things posted around here recently don't even deserve the dignity of an answer, but outright lies do deserve calling out from time to time.
+1
I'm trying, but when there are so many it is difficult to choose which one to respond to and which to ignore.
You guys would look far less foolish if you just write him off as hopeless and move on. What do you hope to achieve by responding to him? You can't win, he lives alone on another planet.
Interesting take.
Have you ever lived in Macon, GA?

Been funny (as in sad, not comical) watching people toss this phrase around as some kind of gotcha moment while totally ignoring the context and meaning with which is was said. It is a tactic that has become so typical of politics from ALL sides that very few people even bat an eye about it anymore, even if on some level they know they are being played. A symptom of everything that is wrong with modern political discourse.

Mule, I think everyone here understands that there needs to be some form of escalation in the fight against daesh. we just disagree upon tactics. it is perfectly appropriate in this discussion to ask for your opinion on how to pay for it. you have expressed your dislike for running up the debt. you have expressed your dislike of higher taxes. you seem to think we need to go for the highest level of escalation which will get expensive. I would really be interested in how you would like to see that escalation funded. I do not ask this as a political question but as seriously interested in your opinion.

It's becoming quite clear that a lot of things posted around here recently don't even deserve the dignity of an answer, but outright lies do deserve calling out from time to time.
+1
I'm trying, but when there are so many it is difficult to choose which one to respond to and which to ignore.
You guys would look far less foolish if you just write him off as hopeless and move on. What do you hope to achieve by responding to him? You can't win, he lives alone on another planet.
And you would look far less foolish if you just wrote us all off as hopeless and move on. Yet here you are.
I guess we're the same then.
If you say so.

Mule, I think everyone here understands that there needs to be some form of escalation in the fight against daesh. we just disagree upon tactics. it is perfectly appropriate in this discussion to ask for your opinion on how to pay for it. you have expressed your dislike for running up the debt. you have expressed your dislike of higher taxes. you seem to think we need to go for the highest level of escalation which will get expensive. I would really be interested in how you would like to see that escalation funded. I do not ask this as a political question but as seriously interested in your opinion.
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Okay, I respect your question.
There are many steps that need to be taken to pay for The War on Terror and get the country’s economy stable. Some of which are:
- Elect a Republican President who will lay the foundation for full employment to include a living wage.
- Reduce the corporate tax rate significantly which would bring back to the U.S. the trillions of dollars companies are storing overseas because The U.S. has the highest corporate tax rate in the world.
- Actually stop the waste, fraud and abuse in the government.
- Repeal and replace Obamacare with a system that ensures that all Americans can be insured at a fair rate and get the government out of the doctor’s office.
- Match foreign tariffs on our products to those we import.
- Stop all foreign aid to all countries unless they actively join the War on Terror and take their fair share of refugees.
- Enact a zero based government budgeting law.
- Stop funding of all crony capitalism.
- Eliminate the Commerce, Education and Health and Housing and Urban Development.
- Institute a fair and balanced Immigration Law.
- Hold teachers accountable for their failure to educate students.
- Ban government employee unions.
- Pass a balanced budget amendment.
- Forbid amendments for any bill. All laws proposed must be clean, fully accounted for and publically posted before voting.
- Stop the multi-generational entitlement programs.
- Require all government contracts to be open to all.
- After eliminating the IRS, enforce tax collection regardless of someone’s social or political status.
There is a good start and remember that previous wars were not paid for but they were necessary for our national security. We eventually paid for them all.
[Edited on 11/18/2015 by Muleman1994]

Mule, I think everyone here understands that there needs to be some form of escalation in the fight against daesh. we just disagree upon tactics. it is perfectly appropriate in this discussion to ask for your opinion on how to pay for it. you have expressed your dislike for running up the debt. you have expressed your dislike of higher taxes. you seem to think we need to go for the highest level of escalation which will get expensive. I would really be interested in how you would like to see that escalation funded. I do not ask this as a political question but as seriously interested in your opinion.
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Okay, I respect your question.
There are many steps that need to be taken to pay for The War on Terror and get the country’s economy stable. Some of which are:
- Elect a Republican President who will lay the foundation for full employment to include a living wage.
- Reduce the corporate tax rate significantly which would bring back to the U.S. the trillions of dollars companies are storing overseas because The U.S. has the highest corporate tax rate in the world.
- Actually stop the waste, fraud and abuse in the government.
- Repeal and replace Obamacare with a system that ensures that all Americans can be insured at a fair rate and get the government out of the doctor’s office.
- Match foreign tariffs on our products to those we import.
- Stop all foreign aid to all countries unless they actively join the War on Terror and take their fair share of refugees.
- Enact a zero based government budgeting law.
- Stop funding of all crony capitalism.
- Eliminate the Commerce, Education and Health and Human Services agencies.
- Institute a fair and balanced Immigration Law.
- Hold teachers accountable for their failure to educate students.
- Ban government employee unions.
- Pass a balanced budget amendment.
- Forbid amendments for any bill. All laws proposed must be clean, fully accounted for and publically posted before voting.
- Stop the multi-generational entitlement programs.
- Require all government contracts to be open to all.
- After eliminating the IRS, enforce tax collection regardless of someone’s social or political status.
There is a good start and remember that previous wars were not paid for but they were necessary for our national security. We eventually paid for them all.
One would need a much larger government with a bigger budget to administrate all of the above. You do understand that when you create more things for government to do you need more government. This has long been a republican failing.

Mule, I think everyone here understands that there needs to be some form of escalation in the fight against daesh. we just disagree upon tactics. it is perfectly appropriate in this discussion to ask for your opinion on how to pay for it. you have expressed your dislike for running up the debt. you have expressed your dislike of higher taxes. you seem to think we need to go for the highest level of escalation which will get expensive. I would really be interested in how you would like to see that escalation funded. I do not ask this as a political question but as seriously interested in your opinion.
________________________________________________________________________
Okay, I respect your question.
There are many steps that need to be taken to pay for The War on Terror and get the country’s economy stable. Some of which are:
- Elect a Republican President who will lay the foundation for full employment to include a living wage.
- Reduce the corporate tax rate significantly which would bring back to the U.S. the trillions of dollars companies are storing overseas because The U.S. has the highest corporate tax rate in the world.
- Actually stop the waste, fraud and abuse in the government.
- Repeal and replace Obamacare with a system that ensures that all Americans can be insured at a fair rate and get the government out of the doctor’s office.
- Match foreign tariffs on our products to those we import.
- Stop all foreign aid to all countries unless they actively join the War on Terror and take their fair share of refugees.
- Enact a zero based government budgeting law.
- Stop funding of all crony capitalism.
- Eliminate the Commerce, Education and Health and Human Services agencies.
- Institute a fair and balanced Immigration Law.
- Hold teachers accountable for their failure to educate students.
- Ban government employee unions.
- Pass a balanced budget amendment.
- Forbid amendments for any bill. All laws proposed must be clean, fully accounted for and publically posted before voting.
- Stop the multi-generational entitlement programs.
- Require all government contracts to be open to all.
- After eliminating the IRS, enforce tax collection regardless of someone’s social or political status.
There is a good start and remember that previous wars were not paid for but they were necessary for our national security. We eventually paid for them all.
thank you for your honest response.
maybe we can agree that meeting all of those requirements will be difficult. i do not believe that you are saying we do nothing until they are met. so that leaves debt, which you also addressed. what i find confusing about that part of it is an earlier comment you made....
"Liberals are feigning concern about the national debt, while Obama has added more to the national debt that all previous presidents combined."
i suppose your future requirements for paying for things covers you, but to me it seems you are also comfortable with incurring more debt to fight this war. at least at the present time. i personally feel that the debt we have taken on while obama has been president could be paid off as easily as war debt.
i suppose we will see, because something is going to happen next year, no matter who wins the election and debt will be incurred.
again, thank you for your response.

Mule, I think everyone here understands that there needs to be some form of escalation in the fight against daesh. we just disagree upon tactics. it is perfectly appropriate in this discussion to ask for your opinion on how to pay for it. you have expressed your dislike for running up the debt. you have expressed your dislike of higher taxes. you seem to think we need to go for the highest level of escalation which will get expensive. I would really be interested in how you would like to see that escalation funded. I do not ask this as a political question but as seriously interested in your opinion.
________________________________________________________________________
Okay, I respect your question.
There are many steps that need to be taken to pay for The War on Terror and get the country’s economy stable. Some of which are:
- Elect a Republican President who will lay the foundation for full employment to include a living wage.
- Reduce the corporate tax rate significantly which would bring back to the U.S. the trillions of dollars companies are storing overseas because The U.S. has the highest corporate tax rate in the world.
- Actually stop the waste, fraud and abuse in the government.
- Repeal and replace Obamacare with a system that ensures that all Americans can be insured at a fair rate and get the government out of the doctor’s office.
- Match foreign tariffs on our products to those we import.
- Stop all foreign aid to all countries unless they actively join the War on Terror and take their fair share of refugees.
- Enact a zero based government budgeting law.
- Stop funding of all crony capitalism.
- Eliminate the Commerce, Education and Health and Housing and Urban Development.
- Institute a fair and balanced Immigration Law.
- Hold teachers accountable for their failure to educate students.
- Ban government employee unions.
- Pass a balanced budget amendment.
- Forbid amendments for any bill. All laws proposed must be clean, fully accounted for and publically posted before voting.
- Stop the multi-generational entitlement programs.
- Require all government contracts to be open to all.
- After eliminating the IRS, enforce tax collection regardless of someone’s social or political status.
There is a good start and remember that previous wars were not paid for but they were necessary for our national security. We eventually paid for them all.One would need a much larger government with a bigger budget to administrate all of the above. You do understand that when you create more things for government to do you need more government. This has long been a republican failing.
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Spoken as the liberal liar you are.
What I propose would greatly reduce both the size of government and its budget. You are of course against anything like that because liberals want big government and total control over the people and don’t care how much it costs.
[Edited on 11/18/2015 by Muleman1994]

The same people advising Charlie Sheen to pay millions to keep his HIV + status quite must be the same people advising Obama on his ISIS strategy.

ROFLMFAO, really?

ROFLMFAO, really?
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It was just there; hanging in the air.

Sec. of State Kerry embarrasses The U.S. and himself again. Hebdo attacks “justified”?
John Kerry Justifies Charlie Hebdo Slaughter
3:18 PM, Nov 17, 2015 • By DANIEL HALPER
In remarks today in Paris, France, Secretary of State John Kerry justified the terror attack earlier this year that targeted the magazine Charlie Hebdo in January. This latest attack, by contrast, was different, said Kerry.
"In the last days, obviously, that has been particularly put to the test," Kerry said, according to a State Department transcript. "There’s something different about what happened from Charlie Hebdo, and I think everybody would feel that. There was a sort of particularized focus and perhaps even a legitimacy in terms of – not a legitimacy, but a rationale that you could attach yourself to somehow and say, okay, they’re really angry because of this and that.
"This Friday was absolutely indiscriminate. It wasn’t to aggrieve one particular sense of wrong. It was to terrorize people. It was to attack everything that we do stand for. That’s not an exaggeration. It was to assault all sense of nationhood and nation-state and rule of law and decency, dignity, and just put fear into the community and say, “Here we are.” And for what? What’s the platform? What’s the grievance? That we’re not who they are? They kill people because of who they are and they kill people because of what they believe. And it’s indiscriminate. They kill Shia. They kill Yezidis. They kill Christians. They kill Druze. They kill Ismaili. They kill anybody who isn’t them and doesn’t pledge to be that. And they carry with them the greatest public display of misogyny that I’ve ever seen, not to mention a false claim regarding Islam. It has nothing to do with Islam; it has everything to do with criminality, with terror, with abuse, with psychopathism – I mean, you name it."

Poll: Americans' views of U.S. fight against ISIS hit new low
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-americans-views-of-u-s-fight-against-isis-hit-new-lows/

i tend to think that is because of media, constantly being told something bad is going to happen.
[Edited on 11/18/2015 by LeglizHemp]

i tend to think that is because of media, constantly being told something bad is going to happen.
[Edited on 11/18/2015 by LeglizHemp]
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Or is it because something bad just did happen?
The bad thing that just happened is because Obama let ISIS establish itself and grow exponentially and without opposition.

bad things have happened since i was born and before and will after i die.
sorry mule, i'm just not afraid and i don't expect a perfect solution. maybe people need to understand that we can't change peoples perceptions of reality by throwing around information they find on the internet or see on tv. i'm guilty of this also, but i try not to abuse it. at least i think i don't. i respect your opinion but i disagree with it.
oh well, i hope everyone is safe from the coming doom, LOL. 😛

bad things have happened since i was born and before and will after i die.
sorry mule, i'm just not afraid and i don't expect a perfect solution. maybe people need to understand that we can't change peoples perceptions of reality by throwing around information they find on the internet or see on tv. i'm guilty of this also, but i try not to abuse it. at least i think i don't. i respect your opinion but i disagree with it.
oh well, i hope everyone is safe from the coming doom, LOL. 😛
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So you believe that ISIS should be allowed to continue to grow and kill at will?

It is only Wednesday...
[Edited on 11/19/2015 by Muleman1994]

i tend to think that is because of media, constantly being told something bad is going to happen.
[Edited on 11/18/2015 by LeglizHemp]
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Or is it because something bad just did happen?
The bad thing that just happened is because Obama let ISIS establish itself and grow exponentially and without opposition.
Just to broaden your perspective you should consider that the European countries withdrew from the Middle East militarily at the same time that European fighters began to join ISIS in great numbers.

John McCain's answer. Send 10,000 US troops to Syria.
P.S. US Intelligence officials warned last May that the mastermind of the attacks was capable of conducting a large scale attack. Nobody paid attention.
http://www.geo.tv/article-204706-French-PM-warns-of-risk-of-chemical-attack#_
[Edited on 11/19/2015 by gina]

I'm just shocked that Gina actually believes terrorists were responsible for the Paris attacks. That is a first. I thought for sure she would have offered some kind of conspiracy theory.

i tend to think that is because of media, constantly being told something bad is going to happen.
[Edited on 11/18/2015 by LeglizHemp]
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Or is it because something bad just did happen?
The bad thing that just happened is because Obama let ISIS establish itself and grow exponentially and without opposition.
Just to broaden your perspective you should consider that the European countries withdrew from the Middle East militarily at the same time that European fighters began to join ISIS in great numbers.
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Not long after the coward Obama cut and ran from Iraq giving ISIS a clear path to grow exponentially and wreak havoc and death.
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