I was invited to an election night party that was attended by entirely pro Clinton folk. That was fine.... They assumed that since I have a long ponytail that I was a Democrat and pro Clinton. I found that stereotyping and odd. I never talk politics or religion socially, and even then with very rare exceptions and only with close friends, so nobody had a clue what I thought.
I kept my mouth shut with all my friends all year about my political choice for President. I was afraid of being called sexist, racist, low mentality, uneducated, etc etc etc. Yes I voted for Trump. No I do not see him without flaws, some troubling at times. I am not going to defend why I voted.
I am going to start telling my friends who I voted for. We'll see how many still associate with me. Might be a little herd self-thinning. Whatever.
If Clinton supporters believe Trump did not get elected with some Latino, educated, Black, female vote, then I would challenge that he certainly did. The media is still hawking the high school educated blue collar whites did it (the vote).... a big factor I admit, but a part only.
I know there are a whole lot of folk like me..... afraid of their friends who have endlessly opinionated in a nasty way about how nasty Trump is (huh?)....... who have kept mouths shut.
I am only going to say "Not everyone thinks like you politically, or voted like you did". I wont be arrogant like they thought they were going to be, trouncing and vilifying Trump in victorious correctness, in an opposite anti Clinton reverse version.
That party was disgusting...... I had to listen to people put down anyone who would vote for Trump as sub human, stupid, uninformed, and worse. and these are pro human rights people? Yikes, they came across as Socialists.....
rant over................
I totally get this. I lived in NYC for over a decade and I never liked the presumption that everyone who isn't a raging union-loving liberal probably has horns on their head. Even when I agreed with people, the presumption that any other train of thought was the product of miseducation was pretty offensive. Self-righteousness absolutism, liberal or conservative, is an ugly thing that doesn't accomplish anything.
I have a lot conservative and liberal friends and family from all over the country who I love and respect. I don't agree with them always, since I'm not blindly on one side of the aisle, but it's never personal.
I voted for Clinton. Not to debate here about it, but I wasn't bonkers for her, but I couldn't vote in the primaries in NY because I wasn't a member of a political party. I find Trump incredibly frightening, mostly for his disposition. I know some people see him as an outsider and a world shaker, all I see is a narcissist who plays fast and loose with facts. I never felt that way about Romney or Bush or Kerry or Dole or Gore, etc. But I've said it before here, but those saying "we won, get over it" as if Hillary supporters are sour grapes Cleveland Indians fans, are missing the point - many people in this country find Trump incredibly frightening, and I think it's a legitimate concern that his supporters need to understand just as much as his detractors need to understand why people support him.
I understand why many, many rational smart people voted for him and against her, I know they are not all wearing white hoods. Like shifting icebergs, it seems as the suburbs grow, rural areas shrink, and urban areas rise higher, people get further and further from each other, which means a gap in discussion and understanding. The absolutist attitudes of "I am correct, winning is validation" or "we lost to deplorables" are both equally offensive and don't move us forwards.
I'm with you bird
I probably woulda declined the party invite
I get it thou
[Edited on 11/11/2016 by rainy]
bird72 - you said MUCH better what I think I was trying to say in another thread ! Nice post for sure.
