The Allman Brothers Band
Hillary Clinton: Wh...
 
Notifications
Clear all

Hillary Clinton: Why all the animosity?

61 Posts
14 Users
0 Reactions
7,507 Views
Muleman1994
(@muleman1994)
Posts: 4923
Member
 

Hillary Clinton Humiliated In Texas As Her Failed Legacy Suffers Ultimate Embarrassment

https://conservativepoliticstoday.com/hillary-clinton-humiliated-in-texas-as-her-failed-legacy-suffers-ultimate-embarrassment/


 
Posted : December 13, 2018 7:01 am
BrerRabbit
(@brerrabbit)
Posts: 5580
Illustrious Member
Topic starter
 

Yep - Hillary humiliated, embarrassed, reviled, dropped from the Social Studies curriculum. The Texas School Board also added Billy Graham to Social Studies. Next item on agenda, ban teaching evolution?

Arf.


 
Posted : December 13, 2018 7:28 am
JimSheridan
(@jimsheridan)
Posts: 1635
Noble Member
 

Many voters feared that Hilary would spend her presidency being investigated by the FBI and would also use the presidency to enrich herself and her family, giving sweetheart deals to her cronies.

Of course, all of that is what Trump has done, which is no surprise to any voter who actually knew anything about the Donald's past. After his initial economic splash, watch the deficit rise and debt grow; it is the same pattern seen with many of his business ventures. Big gaudy opening, then a shit show leading to collapse.


 
Posted : December 13, 2018 7:45 am
Muleman1994
(@muleman1994)
Posts: 4923
Member
 

Did Clinton Foundation mislead IRS? State filings raise the question
https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/420897-did-clinton-foundation-mislead-irs-state-filings-suggest-so

Whistleblowers Allege FBI Is Investigating Pay For Play, Quid Pro Quo At Clinton
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/12/11/mark_meadows_whistleblowers_allege_fbi_is_investigating_pay_for_play_quid_pro_quo_at_clinton_foundation.html

Lying media now trying to memory-hole all the times Hillary Clinton met with Putin and cavorted with the Russians

Russian collusion has the Clinton fingerprints all over it
http://clinton.news/2018-07-23-lying-media-now-trying-to-memory-hole-all-the-times-hillary-clinton-met-with-putin-russians.html

IG Report on Clinton Investigation “extremely long and thorough”
https://saraacarter.com/ig-report-on-clinton-investigation-extremely-long-and-thorough/


 
Posted : December 13, 2018 8:31 am
nebish
(@nebish)
Posts: 4841
Illustrious Member
 

And what does Hillary have to do with how Republicans chose Trump out of the other 18 candidates? They wanted TRUMP, period, because of his rhetoric. Hillary has nothing to do with it and they know it. They are just too cowardly to admit it.

Since nobody else responded, I will. There were no Republican nominees that interested me enough in the primaries. I voted for Sanders in the primaries, then Trump in the general. Clearly I was going for something very different. Anything, different than establishment politicians - that is the only thing any of my votes in 2016 had to do with Hillary.


 
Posted : December 13, 2018 8:47 am
BrerRabbit
(@brerrabbit)
Posts: 5580
Illustrious Member
Topic starter
 

Russian collusion has the Clinton fingerprints all over it
[url] http://clinton.news/2018-07-23-lying-media-now-trying-to-memory-hole-all-th e-times-hillary-clinton-met-with-putin-russians.html[/url]

from the article you linked to, leans on Alex Jones as a source

"As Infowars founder Alex Jones notes, none other than Obama’s first secretary of state, Hillary “Reset Button” Clinton, has recently gone on record hammering the current administration over the Trump-Putin summit in Helsinki, but of course, she got very cozy with the Russian authoritarian during her tenure."

And a couple more paragraphs on Alex Jones' opinion, pretty good chunk of the article. Why would you rely on Alex Jones? You have stated many times you think he is full of crap.


 
Posted : December 13, 2018 9:02 am
BoytonBrother
(@boytonbrother)
Posts: 2859
Member
 

Since nobody else responded, I will. There were no Republican nominees that interested me enough in the primaries. I voted for Sanders in the primaries, then Trump in the general. Clearly I was going for something very different. Anything, different than establishment politicians - that is the only thing any of my votes in 2016 had to do with Hillary.

Thank you for your response, but you do not strike me as one of the voters who has a fake
hatred for Hillary. But since we’re on the subject. As for wanting something different, why didn’t his constant praise of Putin, and constant derision of Americans, in 2015 and 2016, raise a serious red flag for you? And if it did, why were you willing to bring such risk into the White House, just to avoid “established politicians”. Surely an established politician is better than a treasonous traitor compromised by our adversaries.


 
Posted : December 13, 2018 10:05 am
nebish
(@nebish)
Posts: 4841
Illustrious Member
 

Since nobody else responded, I will. There were no Republican nominees that interested me enough in the primaries. I voted for Sanders in the primaries, then Trump in the general. Clearly I was going for something very different. Anything, different than establishment politicians - that is the only thing any of my votes in 2016 had to do with Hillary.

Thank you for your response, but you do not strike me as one of the voters who has a fake
hatred for Hillary. But since we’re on the subject. As for wanting something different, why didn’t his constant praise of Putin, and constant derision of Americans, in 2015 and 2016, raise a serious red flag for you? And if it did, why were you willing to bring such risk into the White House, just to avoid “established politicians”. Surely an established politician is better than a treasonous traitor compromised by our adversaries.

Yeah, so many things on Trump and my deciding to vote for him. I woke up and laid in bed for a bit on election day and it wasn't until that moment I decided I would vote for him. Sure, I followed everything pretty close and I was very active on our forum throughout the election. I didn't think I really could or wanted to vote for him throughout the entire process. The reasons, are rather obvious, you know. Russia? Well honestly, I did want US - Russia relations to improve and was hopeful there was some common alliance that could be formed to combat radial islamic terrorism. Frankly, I do not really care if they invade Crimea or whatever they do, I'm pretty much a nonintervention and would rather regional countries handle regional matters. Disparaging comments towards other Americans or immigrants, no I didn't like that. I believe we need to make it harder for illegal immigrants to come to our country, but I don't like calling them derogatory names or anything. I don't use language like that. He was certainly abrasive. I'm almost certain I posted on here once that the worst thing about Trump was when he opens his mouth - quite a thing to say about somebody running for and ultimately becoming President.

So yeah, there was risk. But when I laid there November 8th 2016 and contemplated which Independent I would be voting for who might get 1% of the vote as I had done the two previous elections, I thought about the Trump positions that I agreed with (trade, tough illegal immigration) and thought of all the times I have wanted a nonpolitician to become President and now I had my chance to vote for one that had a chance at winning, what was I going to do, vote 3rd party yet again and have it be meaningless. I choose to vote him on the things I supported and held my nose at the rest. And I am of the opinion that in 4 years (assuming the POTUS remains in office for the 4 years), we get to vote for somebody different if we want. This country is very resilient and even though most of the time when people exaggerate and say "this is the most important election of our lifetime" or "this President has done more to ruin this country than everyone before him", that kind of stuff to me is BS. America will always survive no matter who is in the White House, and in the case of Trump, it might not be because of him, but maybe in spite of him. 4 years is a blip on the radar of history. And maybe, from my seat, we get some positives out of it...from your seat, maybe we more negatives. 2020 will be here before we know it and we can all try and figure out the least bad candidate then as well.


 
Posted : December 13, 2018 11:07 am
OriginalGoober
(@originalgoober)
Posts: 1861
Noble Member
 

I am so, so, so HAPPY Crooked Hillary is no where near the White House. Dont listen to Boytons group-think blathering about "the right choice"/ The choice between a leftist "right pick" and a " treasonous traitor". Its actually kind of scary that someone would frame a Presidential election in those terms. These commies must be exposed and their agenda called out and ground down to a pulp and spread like manure on the fields of freedom. God Bless America.


 
Posted : December 13, 2018 5:51 pm
BoytonBrother
(@boytonbrother)
Posts: 2859
Member
 

I am so, so, so HAPPY Crooked Hillary is no where near the White House. Dont listen to Boytons group-think blathering about "the right choice"/ The choice between a leftist "right pick" and a " treasonous traitor". Its actually kind of scary that someone would frame a Presidential election in those terms. These commies must be exposed and their agenda called out and ground down to a pulp and spread like manure on the fields of freedom. God Bless America.

Goob is so so HAPPY Crooked Hillary/Democrats/Blacks like Obama are nowhere near the White House. I agree with you about grinding the commies in the White House into manure pulp.


 
Posted : December 13, 2018 6:21 pm
alloak41
(@alloak41)
Posts: 3169
Famed Member
 

First post in quite a while...feels kind of cool. I admit to no not liking Hil much at at the outset, even though I voted for her husband. This continued into the subsequent years without a doubt.

Nurse Ratchet!!

However, as the years rolled on she actually started to grow on me. I don't agree with much of her politics but I'm sure she's a fine woman personally -- and anybody even slightly reasonable would have to admit that much of the hatred toward her is (and continues to be) unwarranted.

She merely turned into one of those "lightning rods" as many others have....Unfairly, but it is what it is. Once that gets started, forget it...


 
Posted : December 13, 2018 7:25 pm
BrerRabbit
(@brerrabbit)
Posts: 5580
Illustrious Member
Topic starter
 

Nurse Ratchet!!

Worth a thousand words. This I can understand.


 
Posted : December 13, 2018 7:27 pm
alloak41
(@alloak41)
Posts: 3169
Famed Member
 

Nurse Ratchet!!

Worth a thousand words. This I can understand.

Gotta admit there's a resemblance there...

Ouch!! loll


 
Posted : December 13, 2018 7:31 pm
BrerRabbit
(@brerrabbit)
Posts: 5580
Illustrious Member
Topic starter
 

lol

"You men are in this hospital...because of your proven inability to adjust to society"


 
Posted : December 13, 2018 11:01 pm
BoytonBrother
(@boytonbrother)
Posts: 2859
Member
 

So Brer, how would you grade the results of your solicitation so far? Goob says “he’s happy she’s nowhere near the White House. Mule posted links from conservativedaily.com, nebish was opposed to an established politician (although he doesn’t really fall into the category of people described in the OP), and back from hiatus alloak added she became a lightning rod, which is true! But did we get the “why” yet? Lying and corruption doesn’t make her unique fellas. It doesn’t answer Brer’s question.


 
Posted : December 14, 2018 4:20 am
cyclone88
(@cyclone88)
Posts: 1999
Noble Member
 

Butting in here because the question was posed to Mr. Rabbit. I think my answer - the US isn't ready for a woman president - makes sense. I don't see any of those MAGA hat-wearing guys enjoying watching her waving from AF 1 as prez nor could they tolerate seeing BC back in the WH as 1st Husband. She's also an OLD woman. They could tolerate Palin because she's attractive had Cheney won & one of his many heart contraptions failed.

Is there a prize for best answer?


 
Posted : December 14, 2018 5:31 am
BrerRabbit
(@brerrabbit)
Posts: 5580
Illustrious Member
Topic starter
 

Although I agree cyclone, there seems to be something else much more sinister driving the madness. I understand being against a candidate and raging when they are a current challenge, but this chronic reflex for years is just bizarre. It's like post-hypnotic suggestion. It didn't happen after the Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton events. Something really got to these folks.

Short answer - I think it is brainwashing.


 
Posted : December 14, 2018 7:19 am
nebish
(@nebish)
Posts: 4841
Illustrious Member
 

Before you award the blue ribbon here, allow me to try and summarize what I believe is underneath the hatred since I didn't offer any of that before.

I agree with Mr cylone, not just that she is a woman, I think many conservatives could and would support a woman for POTUS is they were of similar political mind. The age and appearance factor, unfortunately does play a role, however, it can't be any kind of primary reasoning, rather it is just more of piling on to the fact that some already hate her.

Here is what I think...she has been in the White House for 8 years as First Lady, she was in the US Senate for 8 years. She then served as Secretary of State for President Obama, plus she ran for President...twice. For hardcore conservative types she has been enemy number 1 on a national scale for 25 years, essentially being the face of the Democrat party as other national figures have come and gone, there is Hillary. So she shoulders all that the right hates about the Bill Clinton Presidency, she is a NY liberal Senator (which conservatives always love to hate on NY and CA liberals anyway), and she had a prominent role in the Obama Administration, plus having all that TV time from the two Presidential runs. Even if there was no controversy surrounding her, which everyone knows there is, right or wrong, there is - just the fact that she has been around so long representing and espousing liberal and Democratic party views, I think that is why people hate her.


 
Posted : December 14, 2018 7:29 am
BrerRabbit
(@brerrabbit)
Posts: 5580
Illustrious Member
Topic starter
 

Good stuff - yet many politicians have been on the scene for a long time prior to their day in the spotlight. Nixon perfect example, but when he resigned everyone moved on, and even his detractors recognized his humanity and applauded his class and intelligence. Those who reviled him moved on as well.

There is something else happening here, this is a new phenomenon.

Pitchfork-and-torch politics.


 
Posted : December 14, 2018 8:48 am
Bhawk
(@bhawk)
Posts: 3333
Famed Member
 

I think many conservatives could and would support a woman for POTUS is they were of similar political mind.

Nikki Haley would be/is as good of a candidate as any other right now.


 
Posted : December 14, 2018 9:05 am
nebish
(@nebish)
Posts: 4841
Illustrious Member
 

I think the times and how people engage in politics is so much different now than 40+ years ago. Add in that Hillary never really has gone away or at least risen above a partisan divide the way a former President might post-office. Hillary on the contrary appears to want to stay relevant in a way others might not want to.

One other thing, I have a dear friend who is Democrat all the way. Huge Obama supporter. He doesn't trust Hillary. While he didn't tell me who he voted for in 2016, he despises Trump so he probably voted for her. I do know however if it was Kaisich vs Hillary he said he would've voted for Kaisich. Just an example, if a liberal can't trust her, surely a conservative wouldn't. It's likely an accumulation of things through the years that I think adds up to it all.


 
Posted : December 14, 2018 9:12 am
nebish
(@nebish)
Posts: 4841
Illustrious Member
 

I think many conservatives could and would support a woman for POTUS is they were of similar political mind.

Nikki Haley would be/is as good of a candidate as any other right now.

She did well for herself and I think did a good job at the UN when honestly she had little qualification to actually be there. Maybe it will end up being a step on the ladder for her.


 
Posted : December 14, 2018 9:16 am
cyclone88
(@cyclone88)
Posts: 1999
Noble Member
 

Nixon is from another era - when people behaved w/a certain decorum, leaders were respected, and humiliating defeat meant ostracism. Nixon - can't believe I'm say this - had the good grace to choose resignation & possibly salvaged dignity over the humiliation of impeachment & he stayed out of the political spotlight for the rest of his life save for the Frost interviews. That said, Nixon had been held out as the benchmark for corruption, high crimes, and crooks in the WH until Trump. I remember people saying when W was appointed, "we lived thru Nixon so we'll survive this." So, I'll have to disagree that Nixon didn't fade from animosity.

I also disagree that people moved on from BC. They moved on from his ill-advised impeachment easily, but not him. The very name Clinton sends some factions into hysteria. Perhaps HRC suffers from association.

The recent litany of the service of GHWB suggests that longevity in political life doesn't always mean time to leave the stage. Ditto for Dole & McCain.

I keep going back to the gender issue only because the 1st sign I saw of it in ANY political figure aside from Nixon was HRC's time as 1st Lady of Arkansas. She was despised. Hated. Bella Abzug & Gloria Steinem would've been more welcome. Didn't get it then; don't get it now.


 
Posted : December 14, 2018 9:24 am
BrerRabbit
(@brerrabbit)
Posts: 5580
Illustrious Member
Topic starter
 

The propaganda and mind-control was so effective that it worked on liberals too. This is beyond Trump or his team's ability. Let me put on my tinfoil hat and say that it has occurred to me that the Russians (or GloboCorp) may be pulling a much bigger psy-op on us than we realize - not to support one candidate or another but to mindf*ck America into a useless pile of fired-up pissed-off ignorant backbiting sh*t.

Best defense? If were Surgeon General I would recommend every citizen take a Chill Pill.

[Edited on 12/14/2018 by BrerRabbit]


 
Posted : December 14, 2018 9:25 am
cyclone88
(@cyclone88)
Posts: 1999
Noble Member
 

Hillary on the contrary appears to want to stay relevant in a way others might not want to.

I agree. I was gobsmacked when HRC ran for Senate. I thought anyone who had been through the nightmare of being publicly & humiliatingly tied to BC & his many scandals would've run to the private sector. I expected her to 1) write the expected book and 2) jump feet first into any of the many business opportunities/board memberships she must've been offered.

Maybe that's the source of the animosity. She's a smart, well-educated, experienced woman who could've done good & well in the private or non-profit sector but seems to have stubbornly, even with entitlement, stayed on. She might be less reviled if she was former 1st Lady and current CEO of XYZ, Inc.

[Edited on 12/14/2018 by cyclone88]


 
Posted : December 14, 2018 9:40 am
MartinD28
(@martind28)
Posts: 2855
Famed Member
 

Butting in here because the question was posed to Mr. Rabbit. I think my answer - the US isn't ready for a woman president - makes sense. I don't see any of those MAGA hat-wearing guys enjoying watching her waving from AF 1 as prez nor could they tolerate seeing BC back in the WH as 1st Husband. She's also an OLD woman. They could tolerate Palin because she's attractive had Cheney won & one of his many heart contraptions failed.

Is there a prize for best answer?

I'm not so sure that the US isn't ready for a woman prez. Maybe just not that particular woman. Using similar logic, one could have stated that the US wasn't ready for an Afican American prez, and that was proven false.


 
Posted : December 14, 2018 11:04 am
MartinD28
(@martind28)
Posts: 2855
Famed Member
 

I think many conservatives could and would support a woman for POTUS is they were of similar political mind.

Nikki Haley would be/is as good of a candidate as any other right now.

Would be interesting if she primaries Little Donald.


 
Posted : December 14, 2018 11:06 am
porkchopbob
(@porkchopbob)
Posts: 4636
Illustrious Member
 

It's likely an accumulation of things through the years that I think adds up to it all.

Definitely agree. Hillary was a punching bag since 1992, basically Rush's Head Feminazi. Even SNL portrayed her as a wet-blanket nag in the 1990s. Since becoming NY Senator and thereby essentially announcing her Presidential aspirations in the early 2000s, she's been Conservative's Boogey Man. Her opponents had decades to cement the perception of her, which is telling that after all of the "Lock Her Up" chants, I still have yet to get an answer to the exact charges that should be brought upon her. Decades of negativity became a public identity to some, but familiarity might have been her greatest albatross. People like new flavors.

I think another significant factor was that Hillary was all but anointed as successor, and voters like to think they have a choice, even if it's to spite themselves. She likely got too comfortable, assuming she'd coast to victory, and learned nothing from her poor 2008 campaign. Had she been more aggressive where she needed to be in those last 2 month, she'd likely have won more than just an overall majority.


PorkchopBob Studio

 
Posted : December 14, 2018 11:40 am
BrerRabbit
(@brerrabbit)
Posts: 5580
Illustrious Member
Topic starter
 

Back by unpopular demand - the greatest unsolved mystery in US political history, the ever elusive reason why the Hilary Hate.


 
Posted : April 20, 2019 9:20 am
BrerRabbit
(@brerrabbit)
Posts: 5580
Illustrious Member
Topic starter
 

Writing from the icebox, here.

It's as simple as the US isn't ready for a woman to be president. A pu$$ygrabbing TV celebrity w/porn stars & playmates on his arm isn't as scary to certain segments of the population as a smart woman. DJT tapped into that.

Classic.... Did Crooked Hillary tap into your welfare mooching, lazy, gimmie, gimmie, gimmie, lifestyle?

cyclone is some kind of lawyer, I doubt he is leading a gimmie gimmie welfare lifestyle.


 
Posted : April 20, 2019 9:30 am
Page 2 / 3
Share: