If Hillary signed form OF-109 before leaving the State Department she has committed a felony. Can't get an answer to that question yet. Nobody seems to know if she signed it or not.

It's amazing, this administration stonewalls everything, it is really simple, did she sign it or not? What has it been a week? and still we don't have the answer to that. It is a really simple question.
The state department should be able to produce the document within hours.

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One would think...

However, The State Department is loaded with Hillary's people and is still run by her party.
After all this time that form ain't gonna appear.
The interesting thing will be the how and why spin goes.

The "I have no information on that today" line can't last much longer.

Hillary really need to make a change in her crisis management team.
Right now she looks arrogant, evasive, uncooperative and has that "how dare you question me, I'm Hillary Clinton!" look.
Who ever is advising her is either not getting thru the to her or she can't be reasoned with.

Whatever is happening in the Hillary camp, it ain't workin'.

And yet she is still kicking all the GOP wannabe candidates asses in the most recent polls. so much for the "scandal' hurting her candidacy. go figure

[Edited on 3/17/2015 by Bill_Graham]

In the end it will be about the candidates views and ideology when it comes to important issues and none of this attack dog bs will have any affect on the election. Whether it is Hilary or anyone else vs whoever on the Republican side it will come down to who the majority agree with about the major domestic and foreign policy issues and I believe Hilary if she runs will be very strong on the major issues both at home and abroad.

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That didn't happen in 2008 nor 2112.
An inexperienced, untested, un-vetted socialist was elected and our country and its people have suffered greatly.

The liberals seem to be all in for hillary who has no resume, no professional experience to be President and a long history of corruption and malfeasance.

Trust matters and no one trusts hillary.

In 2008 and 2012 Obama won easily because the Republicans made their candidates, McCain and Romney flip all of their views on many major issues making them each look like phonies. If they do the same thing again and nominate either one of their far right whackos or make one of their moderate candidate flip his views totally to appear far right they will lose again regardless of opponent. I have been saying this for years and it has proven out but the Republicans won't learn. Want to win back the White House give us a true moderate centrist type of candidate who has a consistent idealogical record. Do that and they would have a punchers chance against Hilary or anyone else. Going super ultra conservative with a far right candidate like Alloak wants to do and you lose every time.

In the end it will be about the candidates views and ideology when it comes to important issues and none of this attack dog bs will have any affect on the election. Whether it is Hilary or anyone else vs whoever on the Republican side it will come down to who the majority agree with about the major domestic and foreign policy issues and I believe Hilary if she runs will be very strong on the major issues both at home and abroad.

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That didn't happen in 2008 nor 2112.
An inexperienced, untested, un-vetted socialist was elected and our country and its people have suffered greatly.

The liberals seem to be all in for hillary who has no resume, no professional experience to be President and a long history of corruption and malfeasance.

Trust matters and no one trusts hillary.

If nobody trusts Hillary, then why is she leading in all the polls? You don't trust Hillary. Lots of conservatives don't trust Hillary. But obviously many do. If nobody trusts her you wouldn't be on here every day trying your hardest to make her look bad. She obviously scares you because you believe she is a threat to win the presidency.

Going super ultra conservative with a far right candidate like Alloak wants to do and you lose every time.

Could not disagree more. The last true conservative they nominated was Ronald Regan
They need to do it again. George Bush ran as a conservative but did not govern that way.
Nominate people like Romney and McCain and they will lose every time.

If nobody trusts Hillary, then why is she leading in all the polls? You don't trust Hillary. Lots of conservatives don't trust Hillary. But obviously many do. If nobody trusts her you wouldn't be on here every day trying your hardest to make her look bad. She obviously scares you because you believe she is a threat to win the presidency.

Hillary doesn't need help making her look bad, just check out her press conference about the emails
How can anyone believe that. After 8 years of Obama I believe people will be looking for some one with more integrity. Clinton has none

Going super ultra conservative with a far right candidate like Alloak wants to do and you lose every time.

Could not disagree more. The last true conservative they nominated was Ronald Regan
They need to do it again. George Bush ran as a conservative but did not govern that way.
Nominate people like Romney and McCain and they will lose every time.

If nobody trusts Hillary, then why is she leading in all the polls? You don't trust Hillary. Lots of conservatives don't trust Hillary. But obviously many do. If nobody trusts her you wouldn't be on here every day trying your hardest to make her look bad. She obviously scares you because you believe she is a threat to win the presidency.

Hillary doesn't need help making her look bad, just check out her press conference about the emails
How can anyone believe that. After 8 years of Obama I believe people will be looking for some one with more integrity. Clinton has none

I hope the GOP thinks the way you do and nominates a hardcore conservative as that should guarantee Hillary's election.

Evidently the American public has no problem trusting her as she is still kicking the GOP wannabes asses in the most recent polls so I m speculating the general public could care less about the GOP led crusade to discredit her over which e-mail server she used.

In 2008 and 2012 Obama won easily because the Republicans made their candidates, McCain and Romney flip all of their views on many major issues making them each look like phonies. If they do the same thing again and nominate either one of their far right whackos or make one of their moderate candidate flip his views totally to appear far right they will lose again regardless of opponent.

How do you fix that problem? Hint: Running another moderate won't.

Run a Conservative and he won't have to "flip" his views. If he loses we can live with it. This business about running moderates to attract Democrat voters when your OWN voters won't turn out is a loser. Totally absurd, you have to win your base first. NO, I'd much rather see them give conservatism a chance than run another moderate and lose anyway.

BTW, when's the last time the GOP nominated a "far-Right wacko?"

[Edited on 3/17/2015 by alloak41]

In 2008 and 2012 Obama won easily because the Republicans made their candidates, McCain and Romney flip all of their views on many major issues making them each look like phonies. If they do the same thing again and nominate either one of their far right whackos or make one of their moderate candidate flip his views totally to appear far right they will lose again regardless of opponent.

How do you fix that problem? Hint: Running another moderate won't.

Run a Conservative and he won't have to "flip" his views. If he loses we can live with it. This business about running moderates to attract Democrat voters when your OWN voters won't turn out is a loser. Totally absurd, you have to win your base first. NO, I'd much rather see them give conservatism a chance than run another moderate and lose anyway.

BTW, when's the last time the GOP nominated a "far-Right wacko?"

[Edited on 3/17/2015 by alloak41]

I hope you get Huckabee, Perry, or Cruz. Would any of them make you happy, alloak?

There - a guaranteed victory for whoever the Dem. candidate is.

I've made my picks. Nothing has changed thus far.

Going on 40 pages and she hasn't even officially declared yet. Interesting.

Going on 40 pages and she hasn't even officially declared yet. Interesting.

And the majority of posts see by conservatives telling us why she can'/won't/shouldn't run.

Going on 40 pages and she hasn't even officially declared yet. Interesting.

And the majority of posts see by conservatives telling us why she can'/won't/shouldn't run.

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We have yet to hear why the liberals support Hillary or to list any professional or governmental accomplishments.
And if not Hillary, which other liberal do you support?

Going on 40 pages and she hasn't even officially declared yet. Interesting.

And the majority of posts see by conservatives telling us why she can'/won't/shouldn't run.

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We have yet to hear why the liberals support Hillary or to list any professional or governmental accomplishments.
And if not Hillary, which other liberal do you support?

I have listed reasons, which you refuse to accept. That's not a problem for her since you were never going to vote for her or any other Democrat anyway. She needs only worry about mainstream America, not what those on the far right think. The reelection of Obama proves that point. I'm sure you didn't think he had a chance either. But if you honestly didn't think she had a chance this thread wouldn't be 40 pages.

But if you honestly didn't think she had a chance this thread wouldn't be 40 pages.

And, I must again commend alloak for creating a thread that just won't die. Tip of the hat Sir!

Going on 40 pages and she hasn't even officially declared yet. Interesting.

And the majority of posts see by conservatives telling us why she can'/won't/shouldn't run.

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We have yet to hear why the liberals support Hillary or to list any professional or governmental accomplishments.
And if not Hillary, which other liberal do you support?

I have listed reasons, which you refuse to accept. That's not a problem for her since you were never going to vote for her or any other Democrat anyway. She needs only worry about mainstream America, not what those on the far right think. The reelection of Obama proves that point. I'm sure you didn't think he had a chance either. But if you honestly didn't think she had a chance this thread wouldn't be 40 pages.

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Hillary’s history of corruption, cover-ups, elitism, scandals, lies and lack of a resume has and will keep this thread going for a long time.
That and the fact that this thread has gone off topic many times.

If you did post your reasons, please re-post them.

[Edited on 3/17/2015 by Muleman1994]

Going on 40 pages and she hasn't even officially declared yet. Interesting.

And the majority of posts see by conservatives telling us why she can'/won't/shouldn't run.

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We have yet to hear why the liberals support Hillary or to list any professional or governmental accomplishments.
And if not Hillary, which other liberal do you support?

I have listed reasons, which you refuse to accept. That's not a problem for her since you were never going to vote for her or any other Democrat anyway. She needs only worry about mainstream America, not what those on the far right think. The reelection of Obama proves that point. I'm sure you didn't think he had a chance either. But if you honestly didn't think she had a chance this thread wouldn't be 40 pages.

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Hillary’s history of corruption, cover-ups, elitism, scandals, lies and lack of a resume has and will keep this thread going for a long time.
That and the fact that this thread has gone off topic many times.

If you did post your reasons, please re-post them.

[Edited on 3/17/2015 by Muleman1994]

In other words, you are too lazy to go back and find them. It's OK. we already knew that.

40 pp. and yet not one liberal contributor has stepped up and said they are all in with Hillary and become agitated if their staunch defense is questioned as carrying water. Interesting. Its almost like they need to wait for a signal from Howard Dean and Ed Rendell on MSNBC that Hillary has emerged. Its all too calculated and orchestrated and will feel as genuine as her recent admissions on the email saga.

In 2008 and 2012 Obama won easily because the Republicans made their candidates, McCain and Romney flip all of their views on many major issues making them each look like phonies. If they do the same thing again and nominate either one of their far right whackos or make one of their moderate candidate flip his views totally to appear far right they will lose again regardless of opponent.

How do you fix that problem? Hint: Running another moderate won't.

Run a Conservative and he won't have to "flip" his views. If he loses we can live with it. This business about running moderates to attract Democrat voters when your OWN voters won't turn out is a loser. Totally absurd, you have to win your base first. NO, I'd much rather see them give conservatism a chance than run another moderate and lose anyway.

BTW, when's the last time the GOP nominated a "far-Right wacko?"

[Edited on 3/17/2015 by alloak41]

They didn't have to when Romney flipped his views to their side to make himself look like a far right whacko as McCain did the time before that. Neither of them were allowed to be nominated as their true before flipping selves so they flipped to get nominated and were exposed as being phonies. Go ahead and run one of those far right candidates you like and see what happens regardless of opponent. If you can accept that outcome so could I.

Going on 40 pages and she hasn't even officially declared yet. Interesting.

And the majority of posts see by conservatives telling us why she can'/won't/shouldn't run.

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We have yet to hear why the liberals support Hillary or to list any professional or governmental accomplishments.
And if not Hillary, which other liberal do you support?

I have listed reasons, which you refuse to accept. That's not a problem for her since you were never going to vote for her or any other Democrat anyway. She needs only worry about mainstream America, not what those on the far right think. The reelection of Obama proves that point. I'm sure you didn't think he had a chance either. But if you honestly didn't think she had a chance this thread wouldn't be 40 pages.

______________________________________________________________________

Hillary’s history of corruption, cover-ups, elitism, scandals, lies and lack of a resume has and will keep this thread going for a long time.
That and the fact that this thread has gone off topic many times.

If you did post your reasons, please re-post them.

[Edited on 3/17/2015 by Muleman1994]

In other words, you are too lazy to go back and find them. It's OK. we already knew that.

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Just proves my point.
You never listed any reasons.

Going on 40 pages and she hasn't even officially declared yet. Interesting.

And the majority of posts see by conservatives telling us why she can'/won't/shouldn't run.

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We have yet to hear why the liberals support Hillary or to list any professional or governmental accomplishments.
And if not Hillary, which other liberal do you support?

I have listed reasons, which you refuse to accept. That's not a problem for her since you were never going to vote for her or any other Democrat anyway. She needs only worry about mainstream America, not what those on the far right think. The reelection of Obama proves that point. I'm sure you didn't think he had a chance either. But if you honestly didn't think she had a chance this thread wouldn't be 40 pages.

______________________________________________________________________

Hillary’s history of corruption, cover-ups, elitism, scandals, lies and lack of a resume has and will keep this thread going for a long time.
That and the fact that this thread has gone off topic many times.

If you did post your reasons, please re-post them.

[Edited on 3/17/2015 by Muleman1994]

In other words, you are too lazy to go back and find them. It's OK. we already knew that.

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Just proves my point.
You never listed any reasons.

1. It didn't prove anything other than your inability to debate.
2. I never said I was all in on Hillary. As of now, without anyone actually declared to run, she is the leading candidate. Based on the number of posts by you and alloak, I would say that you guys are afraid of the fact that she could probably win. I've never seen two guys like you rant and rave about a candidate like you two have. I think alloak has a crush on her and you are just misanthropic. 😛

Going on 40 pages and she hasn't even officially declared yet. Interesting.

And the majority of posts see by conservatives telling us why she can'/won't/shouldn't run.

_____________________________________________________________________

We have yet to hear why the liberals support Hillary or to list any professional or governmental accomplishments.
And if not Hillary, which other liberal do you support?

I have listed reasons, which you refuse to accept. That's not a problem for her since you were never going to vote for her or any other Democrat anyway. She needs only worry about mainstream America, not what those on the far right think. The reelection of Obama proves that point. I'm sure you didn't think he had a chance either. But if you honestly didn't think she had a chance this thread wouldn't be 40 pages.

______________________________________________________________________

Hillary’s history of corruption, cover-ups, elitism, scandals, lies and lack of a resume has and will keep this thread going for a long time.
That and the fact that this thread has gone off topic many times.

If you did post your reasons, please re-post them.

[Edited on 3/17/2015 by Muleman1994]

In other words, you are too lazy to go back and find them. It's OK. we already knew that.

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Just proves my point.
You never listed any reasons.

1. It didn't prove anything other than your inability to debate.
2. I never said I was all in on Hillary. As of now, without anyone actually declared to run, she is the leading candidate. Based on the number of posts by you and alloak, I would say that you guys are afraid of the fact that she could probably win. I've never seen two guys like you rant and rave about a candidate like you two have. I think alloak has a crush on her and you are just misanthropic. 😛

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And like i have said many times, it is way too early to pick a candidate as there are no declared candidates declared and their policy positions are just now coming out.

And no, it is not my "inability to debate", it is my refusal to agree with your and you ineffective gun control position.

Based on the number of posts by you and alloak, I would say that you guys are afraid of the fact that she could probably win. I've never seen two guys like you rant and rave about a candidate like you two have. I think alloak has a crush on her and you are just misanthropic. 😛

It's not fear and it's not a crush. It's a thread topic that's fun to converse on.

Based on the number of posts by you and alloak, I would say that you guys are afraid of the fact that she could probably win. I've never seen two guys like you rant and rave about a candidate like you two have. I think alloak has a crush on her and you are just misanthropic. 😛

It's not fear and it's not a crush. It's a thread topic that's fun to converse on.

Racist!

Going on 40 pages and she hasn't even officially declared yet. Interesting.

And the majority of posts see by conservatives telling us why she can'/won't/shouldn't run.

_____________________________________________________________________

We have yet to hear why the liberals support Hillary or to list any professional or governmental accomplishments.
And if not Hillary, which other liberal do you support?

I have listed reasons, which you refuse to accept. That's not a problem for her since you were never going to vote for her or any other Democrat anyway. She needs only worry about mainstream America, not what those on the far right think. The reelection of Obama proves that point. I'm sure you didn't think he had a chance either. But if you honestly didn't think she had a chance this thread wouldn't be 40 pages.

______________________________________________________________________

Hillary’s history of corruption, cover-ups, elitism, scandals, lies and lack of a resume has and will keep this thread going for a long time.
That and the fact that this thread has gone off topic many times.

If you did post your reasons, please re-post them.

[Edited on 3/17/2015 by Muleman1994]

In other words, you are too lazy to go back and find them. It's OK. we already knew that.

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Just proves my point.
You never listed any reasons.

Why should he do your work for you? 😉

BTW still waiting for you to support your claim that the Supreme Court has overruled Obama 9-0 multiple times. or is that just another one of your lies?

Going on 40 pages and she hasn't even officially declared yet. Interesting.

And the majority of posts see by conservatives telling us why she can'/won't/shouldn't run.

_____________________________________________________________________

We have yet to hear why the liberals support Hillary or to list any professional or governmental accomplishments.
And if not Hillary, which other liberal do you support?

I have listed reasons, which you refuse to accept. That's not a problem for her since you were never going to vote for her or any other Democrat anyway. She needs only worry about mainstream America, not what those on the far right think. The reelection of Obama proves that point. I'm sure you didn't think he had a chance either. But if you honestly didn't think she had a chance this thread wouldn't be 40 pages.

______________________________________________________________________

Hillary’s history of corruption, cover-ups, elitism, scandals, lies and lack of a resume has and will keep this thread going for a long time.
That and the fact that this thread has gone off topic many times.

If you did post your reasons, please re-post them.

[Edited on 3/17/2015 by Muleman1994]

In other words, you are too lazy to go back and find them. It's OK. we already knew that.

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Just proves my point.
You never listed any reasons.

Why should he do your work for you? 😉

BTW still waiting for you to support your claim that the Supreme Court has overruled Obama 9-0 multiple times. or is that just another one of your lies?

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This is where the treads go off the rails… do daa, do daa

This is where the treads go off the rails… do daa, do daa

They go off the rails as soon as you show up. #notacoincidence

Going on 40 pages and she hasn't even officially declared yet. Interesting.

And the majority of posts see by conservatives telling us why she can'/won't/shouldn't run.

_____________________________________________________________________

We have yet to hear why the liberals support Hillary or to list any professional or governmental accomplishments.
And if not Hillary, which other liberal do you support?

I have listed reasons, which you refuse to accept. That's not a problem for her since you were never going to vote for her or any other Democrat anyway. She needs only worry about mainstream America, not what those on the far right think. The reelection of Obama proves that point. I'm sure you didn't think he had a chance either. But if you honestly didn't think she had a chance this thread wouldn't be 40 pages.

______________________________________________________________________

Hillary’s history of corruption, cover-ups, elitism, scandals, lies and lack of a resume has and will keep this thread going for a long time.
That and the fact that this thread has gone off topic many times.

If you did post your reasons, please re-post them.

[Edited on 3/17/2015 by Muleman1994]

In other words, you are too lazy to go back and find them. It's OK. we already knew that.

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Just proves my point.
You never listed any reasons.

Why should he do your work for you? 😉

BTW still waiting for you to support your claim that the Supreme Court has overruled Obama 9-0 multiple times. or is that just another one of your lies?

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This is where the treads go off the rails… do daa, do daa

You have no problem asking for citation but when we catch you in a lie you refuse to provide them to support your claims and deflect by telling us to do our own research. Quid Pro Quo Mule or GTFO and stop wasting everyone's time.

Going on 40 pages and she hasn't even officially declared yet. Interesting.

And the majority of posts see by conservatives telling us why she can'/won't/shouldn't run.

_____________________________________________________________________

We have yet to hear why the liberals support Hillary or to list any professional or governmental accomplishments.
And if not Hillary, which other liberal do you support?

I have listed reasons, which you refuse to accept. That's not a problem for her since you were never going to vote for her or any other Democrat anyway. She needs only worry about mainstream America, not what those on the far right think. The reelection of Obama proves that point. I'm sure you didn't think he had a chance either. But if you honestly didn't think she had a chance this thread wouldn't be 40 pages.

______________________________________________________________________

Hillary’s history of corruption, cover-ups, elitism, scandals, lies and lack of a resume has and will keep this thread going for a long time.
That and the fact that this thread has gone off topic many times.

If you did post your reasons, please re-post them.

[Edited on 3/17/2015 by Muleman1994]

In other words, you are too lazy to go back and find them. It's OK. we already knew that.

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Just proves my point.
You never listed any reasons.

Why should he do your work for you? 😉

BTW still waiting for you to support your claim that the Supreme Court has overruled Obama 9-0 multiple times. or is that just another one of your lies?

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This is where the treads go off the rails… do daa, do daa

You have no problem asking for citation but when we catch you in a lie you refuse to provide them to support your claims and deflect by telling us to do our own research. Quid Pro Quo Mule or GTFO and stop wasting everyone's time.

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You posted so who is wasting everyone's time?

State Department: No record of Clinton signing 'separation' form.

How convenient.

The only thing saving Hillary from criminal prosecution is obama and holder’s corrupt justice department.
So far.

This is where the treads go off the rails… do daa, do daa

They go off the rails as soon as you show up. #notacoincidence

Please give jkeller his due credit, muleman isn't arguing with himself.

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Credit for what?
Misrepresenting what a Republican thinks?
How would he know so much about any Republican policy; The N.Y.Times editorial pages or The Onion?

In 2008 and 2012 Obama won easily because the Republicans made their candidates, McCain and Romney flip all of their views on many major issues making them each look like phonies. If they do the same thing again and nominate either one of their far right whackos or make one of their moderate candidate flip his views totally to appear far right they will lose again regardless of opponent.

How do you fix that problem? Hint: Running another moderate won't.

Run a Conservative and he won't have to "flip" his views. If he loses we can live with it. This business about running moderates to attract Democrat voters when your OWN voters won't turn out is a loser. Totally absurd, you have to win your base first. NO, I'd much rather see them give conservatism a chance than run another moderate and lose anyway.

BTW, when's the last time the GOP nominated a "far-Right wacko?"

[Edited on 3/17/2015 by alloak41]

They didn't have to when Romney flipped his views to their side to make himself look like a far right whacko as McCain did the time before that. Neither of them were allowed to be nominated as their true before flipping selves so they flipped to get nominated and were exposed as being phonies. Go ahead and run one of those far right candidates you like and see what happens regardless of opponent. If you can accept that outcome so could I.

Far right whacko? What did he do to make himself look like a "far right wacko"?