For a guy who is clearly obsessed with the Left and hate, you sure spend lots of time "researching" and talking about them. If you are never going to vote that way then why waste your time? It is all about bitter hatred with you. Sad.
Find a hobby or paint the house. Far more useful way to spend your time and energy. Or try using the other hand for a change and it might seem like it is someone else.
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I am entitled to my opinion as is everyone else.
You however have nothing to contribute to the tread but seem to feel a need to lie about me.That is what is sad.
I know liberals are all for free speech as long as that speech agrees with your opinion.
Let me give you a hint, our First Amendment Right doesn’t work that way.That is what is really sad.
Do you liberals have anything to offer?
[Edited on 3/13/2015 by Muleman1994]
Funny how you accuse liberals of lying but when we prove you are lying you either ignore us or change the subject.
Still waiting for your citation on all of Obama's executive action that were overturned by 9-0 decisions by the Supreme Court or is that just another one of your lies? 😉
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I never said all liberals were lying and no one has ever proved that I have lied.
By your statement alone you are lying. Those are your words.
I also told you that I was not going to do the basic research you are either incapable of or unwilling to do.
I'm just amazed that people think all liberals are the same. Reading the Whipping Post it sounds like we are on the verge of another Civil War.
What's really crazy is that this web site should target "like minded" people. At least people that have the common factor of digging the Allman Brothers Band. Yet to read these posts you'd think we are in opposite trenches lobbing canisters of mustard gas at each other.
I'm as guilty as the next mustard gas slinger and often ashamed at my reactions to the written word. I've gone back and deleted stuff more than once because I realized I was being an unkind and reprehensible excuse for a human.
Human kind is a weird tribe. We are strange animals.
Good post, but you don't have to take the high road. Depending upon who you are dealing with here, sometimes we have to lower ourselves to relate to the source. 😛 😛
For a guy who is clearly obsessed with the Left and hate, you sure spend lots of time "researching" and talking about them. If you are never going to vote that way then why waste your time? It is all about bitter hatred with you. Sad.
Find a hobby or paint the house. Far more useful way to spend your time and energy. Or try using the other hand for a change and it might seem like it is someone else.
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I am entitled to my opinion as is everyone else.
You however have nothing to contribute to the tread but seem to feel a need to lie about me.That is what is sad.
I know liberals are all for free speech as long as that speech agrees with your opinion.
Let me give you a hint, our First Amendment Right doesn’t work that way.That is what is really sad.
Do you liberals have anything to offer?
[Edited on 3/13/2015 by Muleman1994]
Funny how you accuse liberals of lying but when we prove you are lying you either ignore us or change the subject.
Still waiting for your citation on all of Obama's executive action that were overturned by 9-0 decisions by the Supreme Court or is that just another one of your lies? 😉
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I never said all liberals were lying and no one has ever proved that I have lied.
By your statement alone you are lying. Those are your words.
I also told you that I was not going to do the basic research you are either incapable of or unwilling to do.
Everyone who reads your posts know that you lie constantly.. We know it, you know it, deal with it.
For a guy who is clearly obsessed with the Left and hate, you sure spend lots of time "researching" and talking about them. If you are never going to vote that way then why waste your time? It is all about bitter hatred with you. Sad.
Find a hobby or paint the house. Far more useful way to spend your time and energy. Or try using the other hand for a change and it might seem like it is someone else.
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I am entitled to my opinion as is everyone else.
You however have nothing to contribute to the tread but seem to feel a need to lie about me.That is what is sad.
I know liberals are all for free speech as long as that speech agrees with your opinion.
Let me give you a hint, our First Amendment Right doesn’t work that way.That is what is really sad.
Do you liberals have anything to offer?
[Edited on 3/13/2015 by Muleman1994]
Funny how you accuse liberals of lying but when we prove you are lying you either ignore us or change the subject.
Still waiting for your citation on all of Obama's executive action that were overturned by 9-0 decisions by the Supreme Court or is that just another one of your lies? 😉
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I never said all liberals were lying and no one has ever proved that I have lied.
By your statement alone you are lying. Those are your words.
I also told you that I was not going to do the basic research you are either incapable of or unwilling to do.Everyone who reads your posts know that you lie constantly.. We know it, you know it, deal with it.
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Prove it.
The liberal mainstream media is turning on Hillary like she was Sarah Palin.
The liberal mainstream media is turning on Hillary like she was Sarah Palin.
Hillary lacks the skills on the lectern and with the media that Bill had. Five minutes into that email presser, Bill would have spun the whole thing into being some kind of innocent victim in the whole thing. Hillary gave a pretty shaky and uncomfortable performance that created more questions than it answered.
With 6+ years to prepare for a presidential run and all that prior political exposure and experience she appears woefully unprepared to handle the heat. Can't believe she got caught up in this in the first place and am really surprised at some of her responses. With all of her baggage it seems she could face a real challenge from a truly qualified and organized contender. Who in the Democratic party do you (anyone) think might fit that bill?
With 6+ years to prepare for a presidential run and all that prior political exposure and experience she appears woefully unprepared to handle the heat. Can't believe she got caught up in this in the first place and am really surprised at some of her responses. With all of her baggage it seems she could face a real challenge from a truly qualified and organized contender. Who in the Democratic party do you (anyone) think might fit that bill?
Good question. It seems right now that nobody is interested. I don't think he is ready now, but in 2020 Cory Booker might make some noise. I think Hillary has time to turn it around. Maybe Bill should do some serious coaching. He seemed to handle himself well under pressure.
With 6+ years to prepare for a presidential run and all that prior political exposure and experience she appears woefully unprepared to handle the heat. Can't believe she got caught up in this in the first place and am really surprised at some of her responses. With all of her baggage it seems she could face a real challenge from a truly qualified and organized contender. Who in the Democratic party do you (anyone) think might fit that bill?
Good question. It seems right now that nobody is interested. I don't think he is ready now, but in 2020 Cory Booker might make some noise. I think Hillary has time to turn it around. Maybe Bill should do some serious coaching. He seemed to handle himself well under pressure.
IMHO Bill Clinton was (and still is) the most skilled politician in the last 100 years.
With 6+ years to prepare for a presidential run and all that prior political exposure and experience she appears woefully unprepared to handle the heat. Can't believe she got caught up in this in the first place and am really surprised at some of her responses. With all of her baggage it seems she could face a real challenge from a truly qualified and organized contender. Who in the Democratic party do you (anyone) think might fit that bill?
Hillary has NEVER been good at answering questions in a formal setting. She gets testy
and cranky if she doesn't feel comfortable with the line of questioning. Sticky problem
for a candidate, particularly one that's not all that likeable in the first place (IMO).
I don't think this is going to be the cake walk that the Liberals are predicting. So many
unknowns, so much time left, so much that could still happen (especially when the Clintons
are involved.)
Five minutes into that email presser, Bill would have spun the whole thing into being some kind of innocent victim in the whole thing. Hillary gave a pretty shaky and uncomfortable performance that created more questions than it answered.
I agree with this. Nonetheless, I think she will cruise to the nomination and probably be president. Not saying I am rooting for that, just a prediction.
(I also think the Red Sox could maybe perhaps win the World Series this year so take it for what it is worth, which isn't much)
I didn't lie about you at all. Just today alone, you have 20 posts spewing your hatred of liberals. There is no actual content so your Freedom Of Speech angle is not relevant in any way. You say nothing and have no point except repeatedly saying - I hate you all. A massive amount of intellect there.
A quick scan of your posts shows that you have not posted anything music related in your last 300 posts. It makes a person wonder if you even like the ABB or why you come to this forum at all instead of some political forum.
No lies there. You are a troll who just wants to fight and you don't even have any actual concepts. You just repeat that liberals are wrong and they lie over and over without even showing a single example. Hundreds of times and still think you accomplish something. In case you were unaware, Moms and Dads tell their children that they are smart and special but most are not telling the truth. This may be an indicator of your obsession with lies. Trolling here won't change that. Blame Mom & Dad but spare us. Were they Liberals?
Then you seem insulted that anyone would accuse you of being a troll. If you have a fraction of the intelligence that you think you have then even you know that you are a troll. And in the world of ABB trolls, you are a pathetic one. Truly sad that you waste your time in this manner. There are better hobbies out there.
An example of why this once great forum fell apart. Angry people who stopped taking their meds. I would skip the Playpen and just boot your ass off as you add nothing of substance here nor do you seem even slightly interested in music. You insult Rowland, Lana and the foundations and beliefs that this forum was built on.
You are indeed entitled to your opinion. You don't like liberals, we got that hundreds of posts ago. Like a child who learned a new word, you repeat it over and over while you try and grasp what it means. You need new material or at the very least learn a new word.
The liberal mainstream media is turning on Hillary like she was Sarah Palin.
Because they aren't liberal. It is corporate media. Corporations are not liberal.
I was at a conference this week and met and heard a talk by Alex Vogel, a self-described "republican political operative" and not to mention a very successful lobbiest. He gave a very interesting and compelling analysis of the 2016 race. In many ways this election cycle is and will continue to be unprecedented for both parties. The GOP race is is as wide open as at any point in the last 60 years, and the Dem race is all but decided. . It was a pretty cool talk from someone who knows the mechanics of congressional and presidential election politics from a few decades of being on the inside at a very high level.
http://vogelhood.com/leadership/
His presentation will be posted online next week, I'll try to remember to post it.
By the way, who do you think he is predicting will be the next POTUS?
[Edited on 3/14/2015 by gondicar]
I don't think this is going to be the cake walk that the Liberals are predicting. So many
unknowns, so much time left, so much that could still happen (especially when the Clintons
are involved.)
I would question anyone who thinks this will be a cake walk. I'm not the only Progressive who is wary of Hillary's centrist and hawkish leanings.
I can't support a hawk. Nor can I support a pro-Walmart, big business as usual, entrenched politico.
I doubt there will be anyone running who reflects my political views.
I doubt there will be anyone running who reflects my political views.
Same here. I'd be happy if someone would run who reflected my desire to unite the country and move in a direction that is best for the country as a whole, not just certain segments, even if I didn't agree with the means to get there.
this country will never be united. Ever.
I don't think this is going to be the cake walk that the Liberals are predicting. So many
unknowns, so much time left, so much that could still happen (especially when the Clintons
are involved.)I would question anyone who thinks this will be a cake walk. I'm not the only Progressive who is wary of Hillary's centrist and hawkish leanings.
I can't support a hawk. Nor can I support a pro-Walmart, big business as usual, entrenched politico.
I doubt there will be anyone running who reflects my political views.
That's the problem. We'll never find a candidate that reflects our views. So we have to find one that probably comes closest. We all have our areas of concern, priorities, interests, etc. Mine are social issues, and based upon that it is obvious that the GOP is disqualified. They are 100 years behind the time on social issues.
I don't think this is going to be the cake walk that the Liberals are predicting. So many
unknowns, so much time left, so much that could still happen (especially when the Clintons
are involved.)I would question anyone who thinks this will be a cake walk. I'm not the only Progressive who is wary of Hillary's centrist and hawkish leanings.
I can't support a hawk. Nor can I support a pro-Walmart, big business as usual, entrenched politico.
I doubt there will be anyone running who reflects my political views.
That's the problem. We'll never find a candidate that reflects our views. So we have to find one that probably comes closest. We all have our areas of concern, priorities, interests, etc. Mine are social issues, and based upon that it is obvious that the GOP is disqualified. They are 100 years behind the time on social issues.
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A frank and honest opinion!
Thank you.
Social issues, aka: populist issues, are the bread and butter of the democrats. It is easy to tell people they want to give them more handouts with become entitlements.
When obama is out pushing his global warming hoax he says “The GOP just wants dirty air and dirty water. An easy stump speech which is a complete lie.
Obama loves to tout “the GOPs War on Women” but he himself pays women in the West Wing less than men.
Hillary claims she is the champion of “Women’s Rights” while she takes hundreds of millions of dollars from countries and governments that oppress women.
The democrats believe in social engineering and social justice via big government when big government is often the problem.
Conversely, Republicans believe in limited government, state’s rights and personal responsibility. Instead of handouts Republicans think anyone who is able to work can get a living wage job.
Republicans also believe in equal rights; not special rights based on someone’s minority or special interest.
While the democrats look like they are going to anoint Hillary as their nominee thusly avoiding any debate, Republicans want a thorough vetting of our candidates via debate and questioning with clear statements of position on all matters a President might encounter.
Sadly the Presidential “race” will turn out to be a celebrity un-reality show again.
Anyway you cut it this will be a year and a half of dishonest TV ads, millions of emails begging for bucks and special interest PACs trashing the opponents.
Even better, come election day, few voters will be able to state their choices position on anything.
God Bless America
In the end it will be about the candidates views and ideology when it comes to important issues and none of this attack dog bs will have any affect on the election. Whether it is Hilary or anyone else vs whoever on the Republican side it will come down to who the majority agree with about the major domestic and foreign policy issues and I believe Hilary if she runs will be very strong on the major issues both at home and abroad.
In the end it will be about the candidates views and ideology when it comes to important issues and none of this attack dog bs will have any affect on the election. Whether it is Hilary or anyone else vs whoever on the Republican side it will come down to who the majority agree with about the major domestic and foreign policy issues and I believe Hilary if she runs will be very strong on the major issues both at home and abroad.
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That didn't happen in 2008 nor 2112.
An inexperienced, untested, un-vetted socialist was elected and our country and its people have suffered greatly.
The liberals seem to be all in for hillary who has no resume, no professional experience to be President and a long history of corruption and malfeasance.
Trust matters and no one trusts hillary.
In the end it will be about the candidates views and ideology when it comes to important issues and none of this attack dog bs will have any affect on the election. Whether it is Hilary or anyone else vs whoever on the Republican side it will come down to who the majority agree with about the major domestic and foreign policy issues and I believe Hilary if she runs will be very strong on the major issues both at home and abroad.
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That didn't happen in 2008 nor 2112.
An inexperienced, untested, un-vetted socialist was elected and our country and its people have suffered greatly.The liberals seem to be all in for hillary who has no resume, no professional experience to be President and a long history of corruption and malfeasance.
Trust matters and no one trusts hillary.
The above post shows how really dumb you are.
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How would you know.
You have repeatedly proven you don't have the intellect to understand ant thing.
Do you have anything to contribute to the thread?
In the end it will be about the candidates views and ideology when it comes to important issues and none of this attack dog bs will have any affect on the election. Whether it is Hilary or anyone else vs whoever on the Republican side it will come down to who the majority agree with about the major domestic and foreign policy issues and I believe Hilary if she runs will be very strong on the major issues both at home and abroad.
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That didn't happen in 2008 nor 2112.
An inexperienced, untested, un-vetted socialist was elected and our country and its people have suffered greatly.The liberals seem to be all in for hillary who has no resume, no professional experience to be President and a long history of corruption and malfeasance.
Trust matters and no one trusts hillary.
The above post shows how really dumb you are.
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How would you know.
You have repeatedly proven you don't have the intellect to understand ant thing.Do you have anything to contribute to the thread?
what "ant thing" is that? 😛
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Pops tried to construct a thought and like obama, failed again.
The liberal mainstream media is turning on Hillary like she was Sarah Palin.
Because they aren't liberal. It is corporate media. Corporations are not liberal.
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You post just shows your ignorance of the real world.
Media outlets are controlled by their editorial boards as are their content.
The left- wing media such as what were considered “mainstream” have been supplanted by Fox News who presents the news and opinions from both the right and the left.
No other media outlet offers both sides of an issue other than Fox News as is evidenced by their, yet again, top rated, most watched and most trusted ratings:
Fox News most watched:
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2015/03/11/cable-news-ratings-for-tuesday-march-10-2015/373654/
Poll: Fox News Most Trusted For Television News
9 Mar 2015
A Quinnipiac poll of 1286 registered voters released Monday shows that Fox News is the most trusted television outlet for news. Fox News earned the trust of 29% of those asked which network they trusted the most. MSNBC came in dead last at 7%. The once legendary broadcast networks, CBS News, NBC News, and ABC News flamed out at 10%, 10%, and 8%, respectively.
Left-wing cable news network CNN came in second with 22%.
When asked, “Do you trust the journalistic coverage provided by FOX News,” 20 percent of U.S. voters say “a great deal” and 35 percent say “somewhat.” Scores for other networks are:
NBC News – 14 percent “a great deal” and 46 percent “somewhat;”
ABC News – 14 percent “a great deal” and 50 percent “somewhat;”
CBS News – 14 percent “a great deal” and 50 percent “somewhat;”
MSNBC – 11 percent “a great deal” and 41 percent “somewhat;”
CNN – 18 percent “a great deal” and 43 percent “somewhat.”
The big winner is local television news, trusted by 19 percent of voters “a great deal” and by 52 percent “somewhat.”
The poll had some positive news for Brian Williams. Only 35% believe the suspended NBC New anchor does not deserve a second chance; a plurality of 42% believe he does.
According to this poll, the Media Matters/Mother Jones/CNN left-wing campaign against Bill O’Reilly has been a massive failure. Only 12% want the Fox News anchor fired, while 11% want him suspended. A full 51% said they don’t know enough to have an opinion on the matter.
BTW – Rush Limbaugh has more listeners than any other radio audience.
The liberal mainstream media is turning on Hillary like she was Sarah Palin.
Because they aren't liberal. It is corporate media. Corporations are not liberal.
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You post just shows your ignorance of the real world.
Media outlets are controlled by their editorial boards as are their content.
The left- wing media such as what were considered “mainstream” have been supplanted by Fox News who presents the news and opinions from both the right and the left.No other media outlet offers both sides of an issue other than Fox News as is evidenced by their, yet again, top rated, most watched and most trusted ratings:
Fox News most watched:
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2015/03/11/cable-news-ratings-for-tuesday-march-10-2015/373654/
Poll: Fox News Most Trusted For Television News
9 Mar 2015
A Quinnipiac poll of 1286 registered voters released Monday shows that Fox News is the most trusted television outlet for news. Fox News earned the trust of 29% of those asked which network they trusted the most. MSNBC came in dead last at 7%. The once legendary broadcast networks, CBS News, NBC News, and ABC News flamed out at 10%, 10%, and 8%, respectively.
Left-wing cable news network CNN came in second with 22%.
When asked, “Do you trust the journalistic coverage provided by FOX News,” 20 percent of U.S. voters say “a great deal” and 35 percent say “somewhat.” Scores for other networks are:
NBC News – 14 percent “a great deal” and 46 percent “somewhat;”
ABC News – 14 percent “a great deal” and 50 percent “somewhat;”
CBS News – 14 percent “a great deal” and 50 percent “somewhat;”
MSNBC – 11 percent “a great deal” and 41 percent “somewhat;”
CNN – 18 percent “a great deal” and 43 percent “somewhat.”
The big winner is local television news, trusted by 19 percent of voters “a great deal” and by 52 percent “somewhat.”
The poll had some positive news for Brian Williams. Only 35% believe the suspended NBC New anchor does not deserve a second chance; a plurality of 42% believe he does.
According to this poll, the Media Matters/Mother Jones/CNN left-wing campaign against Bill O’Reilly has been a massive failure. Only 12% want the Fox News anchor fired, while 11% want him suspended. A full 51% said they don’t know enough to have an opinion on the matter.BTW – Rush Limbaugh has more listeners than any other radio audience.
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Confirmed by a far-left, can't compete with Fox News website?
Pops if your source for information is the DailyKos your problem becomes obvious.
You post just shows your ignorance of the real world.
Media outlets are controlled by their editorial boards as are their content.
The left- wing media such as what were considered “mainstream” have been supplanted by Fox News who presents the news and opinions from both the right and the left.
Have you ever seen an anti-war new outlet? Your statement is moronic. Moronic. MORONIC!
You post just shows your ignorance of the real world.
Media outlets are controlled by their editorial boards as are their content.
The left- wing media such as what were considered “mainstream” have been supplanted by Fox News who presents the news and opinions from both the right and the left.Have you ever seen an anti-war new outlet? Your statement is moronic. Moronic. MORONIC!
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What does "an anti-war new outlet" have to do with media bias and the fact that Fox News is the most watched and most trusted?
You post just shows your ignorance of the real world.
Media outlets are controlled by their editorial boards as are their content.
The left- wing media such as what were considered “mainstream” have been supplanted by Fox News who presents the news and opinions from both the right and the left.Have you ever seen an anti-war new outlet? Your statement is moronic. Moronic. MORONIC!
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What does "an anti-war new outlet" have to do with media bias and the fact that Fox News is the most watched and most trusted?
its not even a "real" news outlet, MORON.
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The “Most Watched” ranking comes from The Nielson Ratings and the “Most Trusted” comes from a Quinnipiac poll.
Both organizations a independent and highly respected.
Of course in Pops mind they are not real either.
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What does "an anti-war new outlet" have to do with media bias and the fact that Fox News is the most watched and most trusted?
A cornerstone of Progressive thinking is the belief that war is bad and that most wars are driven by greed and perpetuated by profit. Unfortunately the war mongers who profit are seldom the people at risk of dying.
The media profits from war. They profit from the threat of war. War and fear of war drive ratings.
The corporate media is all about profit.
I will freely admit that many journalist are liberal. However, they do not choose what they cover. They certainly don't choose what is not covered.
During the Vietnam War journalist were able to cover, film and photograph the horror. They reported the atrocities committed by our troops. Because that war was televised, and because of the draft, all of America was impacted by that horrible war. Regular Americans were outraged by what they saw and by the loss suffered by so many families.
That liberal news coverage had a great deal to do with the United States getting out of Vietnam.
Now the people who make the weapons own the media. You will never see a corporate news media outright oppose war. In fact, they beat the war drums and convince the masses through fear and lies that war, drone strikes, bombing, etc... are all necessary because we are at risk.
The United States media is not liberal. The corporations that own the media have too much to gain by selling their weapons.
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