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BoytonBrother
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Prepared now to hear about all the others who have done it....
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Very weak argument. You imply that liberals will justify the lies and corruption of Democrats simply because "everyone does it." Foolish assumption on your part. We mention that everyone does it to point out how it only bothers you when your opposing side does it. It should bother you when ALL politicians do it.....and that goes for both sides. Even liberals admit that Obama was wrong to lie about Obamacare. It was flat out wrong, end of story. Why can't a conservative do that about a Republican?


 
Posted : March 10, 2015 11:44 am
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I have no idea what the extent of wrongdoing by Hillary Clinton is in the email affair, but if one is to believe polls and tracking, this is not a resonating issue with the public beyond the expected partisan lines.

The email affair, yes. Surely going nowhere since others have done it. Servers in basements are a dime a dozen.

Well, how many of her boosters condone the Secretary of State accepting hundreds of millions in foreign donations while serving in that capacity? After all the complaining about the influence of money in politics, politicians being for sale, and what not. Should our highest ranking diplomat be collecting money from foreign nations? Just curious.

Prepared now to hear about all the others who have done it....

All the crap that's gone on in DC for decades, now you're gonna draw a moral line in the sand and say "Now we should all come together and root out all the evils done by everyo...I mean, Democrats in government! I come from a group of infallible purists who never do anything wrong and you can kiss my a$$ if you think I'd admit it anyway! Let's unite, everyone!"

???

Freakin' vomit-inducing.

I'm disappointed that you view this through the prism of political leanings and/or taking sides. The mistake you make is believing it has anything to do with that. Believe it or not, and if not I can't help that. I just want to see the mess cleaned up. Republicans, Democrats, or whoever.

Washington is a cesspool and I want to see it cleaned up. That's the bottom line. Just because it's been like that for "decades" doesn't mean I want it to continue. We deserve so much better.

I will admit that I have serious doubts Hillary Clinton can lead us in that direction.


 
Posted : March 10, 2015 11:56 am
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I have no idea what the extent of wrongdoing by Hillary Clinton is in the email affair, but if one is to believe polls and tracking, this is not a resonating issue with the public beyond the expected partisan lines.

The email affair, yes. Surely going nowhere since others have done it. Servers in basements are a dime a dozen.

Well, how many of her boosters condone the Secretary of State accepting hundreds of millions in foreign donations while serving in that capacity? After all the complaining about the influence of money in politics, politicians being for sale, and what not. Should our highest ranking diplomat be collecting money from foreign nations? Just curious.

Prepared now to hear about all the others who have done it....

All the crap that's gone on in DC for decades, now you're gonna draw a moral line in the sand and say "Now we should all come together and root out all the evils done by everyo...I mean, Democrats in government! I come from a group of infallible purists who never do anything wrong and you can kiss my a$$ if you think I'd admit it anyway! Let's unite, everyone!"

???

Freakin' vomit-inducing.

I'm disappointed that you view this through the prism of political leanings and/or taking sides. The mistake you make is believing it has anything to do with that. Believe it or not, and if not I can't help that. I just want to see the mess cleaned up. Republicans, Democrats, or whoever.

Washington is a cesspool and I want to see it cleaned up. That's the bottom line. Just because it's been like that for "decades" doesn't mean I want it to continue. We deserve so much better.

I will admit that I have serious doubts Hillary Clinton can lead us in that direction.

The fact that you are pretty much ignoring the act of the 47 Senators says that you only care about perceived Democratic scandals.


 
Posted : March 10, 2015 12:07 pm
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I'm disappointed that you view this through the prism of political leanings and/or taking sides. The mistake you make is believing it has anything to do with that.

Gee, after all these years now, how could I have ever come to that conclusion?

I just want to see the mess cleaned up. Republicans, Democrats, or whoever.

No great cause of consternation, but I just don't believe your cleaning desires are bi-partisan.

I will admit that I have serious doubts Hillary Clinton can lead us in that direction.

Personally I'm not too thrilled with the idea of Hillary or Jeb. Can't we find two other families? But, there's some foregone conclusions written on several walls.

We're both political junkies and we both know that the machine is greased by cash. Hillary and Jeb raise the most cash this cycle. That's all there is to it.


 
Posted : March 10, 2015 12:08 pm
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I'm disappointed that you view this through the prism of political leanings and/or taking sides. The mistake you make is believing it has anything to do with that.

Gee, after all these years now, how could I have ever come to that conclusion?

I just want to see the mess cleaned up. Republicans, Democrats, or whoever.

No great cause of consternation, but I just don't believe your cleaning desires are bi-partisan.

I will admit that I have serious doubts Hillary Clinton can lead us in that direction.

Personally I'm not too thrilled with the idea of Hillary or Jeb. Can't we find two other families? But, there's some foregone conclusions written on several walls.

We're both political junkies and we both know that the machine is greased by cash. Hillary and Jeb raise the most cash this cycle. That's all there is to it.

1. I agree 100%. Heck, even Barbara Bush said so. If that's not good enough.....

2. Correct.

Edit: On your first two statements....

1. I don't blame you for feeling that way. On the other hand, I've changed some from what I was 6-7 years ago.

2. Believe it or not, I am. I am now.

[Edited on 3/10/2015 by alloak41]


 
Posted : March 10, 2015 12:15 pm
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It's going to be a tough future for Republicans if they don't reform their entire platform.

A strong candidate would help.

As for your comment, if they start acting more like Democrats they will beat Democrats? Do you believe Conservatives deserve any representation in a Presidential race?

It's so funny. Everyone thinks they are a permanent majority. The only sure thing is that circumstances change. Who would have predicted after 1964 that 5 of the next 6 elections would be won by Republicans, most of them by landslides. Now Democrats because they have won 4 of the last 5 feel they are sitting pretty for now and forever. I seriously doubt it and I seriously doubt Hillary Clinton will be elected president after 8 years of disastrous times of which she was a sitting secretary of state for 4 of them. The assumption that no Republican is capable of mounting a decent campaign and pointing out to a largely independent electorate the obvious truth is silly. It reminds me of how the Carter campaign wanted to run against Reagan because who would vote for that crazy radical right wing B actor?

The changing demographics don't look good for the Republicans going forward during general elections and it will take an awful lot of changes in attitude and legislation, changes they are very unlikely to make to win over a majority in a general election.


 
Posted : March 10, 2015 12:31 pm
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I don't see the Republicans winning anytime soon. If they truly believe in trickle-down economics, and less entitlement spending, then SHOW how your theory actually works. If the problem lies with the dumb low-info voters, then figure out a way to connect with them about how conservative economics will help them. One must admit that it's a tough pill to swallow for the average 18-34 year old when someone tells them, "I know you work 50 hours a week, and make $45k per year, but I'm only going to cut taxes for the richest 1%, because I believe they are going to reinvest that extra money back into the country's infrastructure. I will not support gay rights because God says it's wrong, so I'm sorry if you or a loved one is gay. I will allow the mentally ill to purchase any type of gun because tougher testing is an inconvenience for some people, and if 20 kids die in a shootout, so be it. If you are poor and need government assistance, it's your fault because you didn't work hard enough. Why? Because I heard about a person who rose out of the ghetto and became successful, so therefore everyone should be able to do it. And I will definitely invade a country at some point. Now can I count on your vote?"

It is tough to sell because it is the way they have been doing it for decades and it hasn't worked and middle class earnings have stagnated under the trickle down theory not to mention all of the jobs lost to outsourcing. Very good for the wealthy upper class and corporate big wigs but bad for middle class America..


 
Posted : March 10, 2015 12:35 pm
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Good thing the aide cut that presser short. The answers were getting a little hesitant. She was getting a little testy and that face getting a little red.

Interesting that she never came clean and admitted a third party arbiter should examine the server and verify her claims. We'll just have to take her word for it.

LOL!!! You are just too much. Thank you for the yucks!!!!!! 😛


 
Posted : March 10, 2015 12:37 pm
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I didn't think she did anything in that press conference to help her cause. In my eyes she came across as entitled. I felt she was speaking down to me.


 
Posted : March 10, 2015 12:45 pm
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It's so funny. Everyone thinks they are a permanent majority. The only sure thing is that circumstances change. Who would have predicted after 1964 that 5 of the next 6 elections would be won by Republicans, most of them by landslides. Now Democrats because they have won 4 of the last 5 feel they are sitting pretty for now and forever. I seriously doubt it and I seriously doubt Hillary Clinton will be elected president after 8 years of disastrous times of which she was a sitting secretary of state for 4 of them. The assumption that no Republican is capable of mounting a decent campaign and pointing out to a largely independent electorate the obvious truth is silly. It reminds me of how the Carter campaign wanted to run against Reagan because who would vote for that crazy radical right wing B actor?

The changing demographics don't look good for the Republicans going forward during general elections and it will take an awful lot of changes in attitude and legislation, changes they are very unlikely to make to win over a majority in a general election.

The whole thing boils down to about four swing states, and that's it..


 
Posted : March 10, 2015 12:46 pm
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Good thing the aide cut that presser short. The answers were getting a little hesitant. She was getting a little testy and that face getting a little red.

Interesting that she never came clean and admitted a third party arbiter should examine the server and verify her claims. We'll just have to take her word for it.

LOL!!! You are just too much. Thank you for the yucks!!!!!! 😛

And you were happy with that performance? My 14 year old daughter could show her how to set up more than one email address on a device.

The worst part was when she said "the server will remain private." Sad.


 
Posted : March 10, 2015 1:10 pm
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Hillary’s response to top democrats and the media: “Trust Me” and no, my email server will remain in her possession.

Displaying the usual Hillary arrogance, Hillary avoided answering the media questions yesterday in true Clintonian style and reading her statements and pseudo-answerers from obviously lawyer and campaign operative’s text.

The Clintons above the law and how dare you question me superiority was on full display and has put yet another nail in her political coffin.

The comical thing here is the left wing is trying so hard to make this part of the “vast right-wing conspiracy” when The GOP had nothing to do with this matter.
Sidney Blumenthal’s computer got hacked and that hacker exposed Hillary’s private email use. That is how The N.Y. Times got the story.
Hillary was working with Blumenthal, a former Clinton White house senior aide, on the cover up of the Benghazi scandal.

This email fiasco and criminal activity is solely Hillary’s and of course The State Department and Obama administration. No one believes that not one person ever noticed that Hillary never used the .gov email required by law.

The Associated Press is suing to obtain the secreted Hillary emails.


 
Posted : March 11, 2015 7:15 am
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Much to do about nothing. By election time this will not even be remembered by the voting public.


 
Posted : March 11, 2015 7:47 am
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Maybe they'll find the Eghazi emails after they find the 22 million emails deleted by the Bush Administration. Grin


 
Posted : March 11, 2015 7:53 am
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Much to do about nothing. By election time this will not even be remembered by the voting public.

That's what I say. If anyone thinks this is even close to as bad as what the Republican attack dogs will throw at Hilary once she officially declares haven't been paying attention the last decade. This is just the tip of the iceberg. I don't even know why she would want to go through all of the bull_hit but if she runs she will do a good job deflecting the bulls_it away and forcing the other side to actually debate substance instead of attacking the other side's substance. Why can't they for once run on their own ideas instead of running against the other side's ideas without anything to replace the other side's ideas with???


 
Posted : March 11, 2015 8:08 am
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Much to do about nothing. By election time this will not even be remembered by the voting public.

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I know violating the law and lying to the American People is all good with the liberals.
Ethics and morals have never been associated with democrats.

The GOP may not be hillary's biggest problem.
First hillary has to get the democratic partys nomination which she failed to do in 2008.
obama and his chief handler valerie jarrett do not want hillary to get the nomination as they consider her too much a centrist.
They, along with media-matters, the liberals main PAC financed by george soros are all pushing for liz warren.


 
Posted : March 11, 2015 8:59 am
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Posted : March 11, 2015 9:25 am
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HILLARY TELLS DEMS, PRESS TO SUCK IT UP

Hillary Clinton had a pretty straightforward message for Democrats and the media: Suck it up. She’s all they’ve got. There’s no viable alternative to her other than a Republican president. So they will have to choose whether they will side with her or with the GOP. Clinton even said that she would much rather have been there making partisan attacks on Senate Republicans, but noooooooo… she had to speak about her emails. All of those in the media and in Congress who had cautiously suggested that Clinton should show she was innocent of wrongdoing by coming clean got a big, wet raspberry from the Democratic frontrunner. The woman who has had attendants by her side since the late 1970s offered one flimsy excuse – convenience – for having operated a secret email server for government business every day of her tenure as secretary of state. And after that, it was just plain dismissive.

“I’m like two steps short of a hoarder. So, I have an iPad, a mini-iPad, and iPhone, and a blackberry.” –Hillary Clinton courting donors in Silicon Valley last month.


 
Posted : March 11, 2015 9:50 am
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AP sues State Department, seeking access to Clinton records
Published March 11, 2015
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The Associated Press filed a lawsuit Wednesday against the State Department to force the release of email correspondence and government documents from Hillary Rodham Clinton's tenure as secretary of state.

The legal action comes after repeated requests filed under the U.S. Freedom of Information Act have gone unfulfilled. They include one request AP made five years ago and others pending since the summer of 2013.

The lawsuit, filed in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, comes a day after Clinton broke her silence about her use of a private email account while secretary of state. The FOIA requests and lawsuit seek materials related to her public and private calendars, correspondence involving longtime aides likely to play key roles in her expected campaign for president, and Clinton-related emails about the Usama bin Laden raid and National Security Agency surveillance practices.

"After careful deliberation and exhausting our other options, The Associated Press is taking the necessary legal steps to gain access to these important documents, which will shed light on actions by the State Department and former Secretary Clinton, a presumptive 2016 presidential candidate, during some of the most significant issues of our time," said Karen Kaiser, AP's general counsel.

"The press is a proxy for the people, and AP will continue its pursuit of vital information that's in the public interest through this action and future open records requests," she said.

State Department spokesman Alec Gerlach declined to comment. He had previously cited the department's heavy annual load of FOIA requests -- 19,000 last year -- in saying that the department "does its best to meet its FOIA responsibilities." He said the department takes requests "first in, first out," but noted that timing depends on "the complexity of the request."

Michael Oreskes, a senior managing editor at AP, said the news agency was planning to file additional requests under FOIA following the disclosure last week that Clinton used a private email account run on a server on her property outside New York while working at the State Department.

Clinton on Tuesday said she sent and received about 60,000 emails from her personal email address in her four years as President Barack Obama's secretary of state. She said roughly half were work-related, which she turned over to the State Department, while deleting tens of thousands more that were personal in nature.

The department says it will take several months to review the material Clinton turned over last year. Once the review is complete, the department said, the emails will be posted online.

The AP had sought Clinton-related correspondence before her use of a personal email account was publicly known, although Wednesday's court filing alleges that the State Department is responsible for including emails from that account in any public records request.

"State's failure to ensure that Secretary Clinton's governmental emails were retained and preserved by the agency, and its failure timely to seek out and search those emails in response to AP's requests, indicate at the very least that State has not engaged in the diligent, good-faith search that FOIA requires," says AP's legal filing.

Specifically, AP is seeking copies of Clinton's full schedules and calendars from her four years as secretary of state; documents related to her department's decision to grant a special position to longtime aide Huma Abedin; related correspondence from longtime advisers Philippe Reines and Cheryl Mills, who, like Abedin, are likely to play central roles in a Clinton presidential campaign; documents related to Clinton's and the agency's roles in the Osama bin Laden raid and National Security Agency surveillance practices; and documents related to her role overseeing a major Defense Department contractor.

The AP made most of its requests in the summer of 2013, although one was filed in March 2010. AP is also seeking attorney's fees related to the lawsuit.

Other organizations have also sued the State Department recently after lengthy delays responding to public record requests.

In December, the conservative political advocacy group Citizens United filed suit sued the State Department for failing to disclose flight records showing who accompanied Clinton on overseas trips. Last week, the National Security Archive, an organization that gathers declassified government records, filed a lawsuit after waiting more than seven years for the State Department to release of details of former secretary of state Henry Kissinger's telephone conversations.

Thomas Blanton, director of the National Security Archive, predicted the State Department would speed up its review facing legal action, particularly given that Clinton has said that her email correspondence doesn't include classified material.

"When the government is under a court deadline, or really wants to review, they can whip through thousands of pages in a matter of weeks, which they should do here," Blanton said.

The State Department generally takes about 450 days to turn over records it considers to be part of complex requests under the Freedom of Information Act. That is seven times longer than the Justice Department and CIA, and 30 times longer than the Treasury Department.

An inspector general's report in 2012 criticized the State Department's practices as "inefficient and ineffective," citing a heavy workload, small staff and interagency problems


 
Posted : March 11, 2015 9:53 am
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In the end she is corrupt to the core and Democrats simply don't care. Mainly because they have no alternative. They will stick with her and do everything they can to ignore it just as Sandy Berger literally removing classified documents and taking them home with him was laughed off as was everything that happened in the Clinton administration. I find it sad.


 
Posted : March 11, 2015 11:13 am
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"Corrupt to the core", LOL. And the Oscar goes to......

You are partly right though....I could care less about the email "scandal". Not because Dems have no other option, but to me it seems as trivial as bridge gate. Even if Christie did intentionally cause that traffic jam, who gives a crap? He'd still be a great candidate and it wouldn't mean he is "corrupt to the core". I would only go that extreme for serious stuff, not mudslinging.

I find it sad when people give passes to those who share their beliefs, and condemn those who have opposite beliefs for the exact same offense.


 
Posted : March 11, 2015 1:50 pm
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In the end she is corrupt to the core and Democrats simply don't care. Mainly because they have no alternative. They will stick with her and do everything they can to ignore it just as Sandy Berger literally removing classified documents and taking them home with him was laughed off as was everything that happened in the Clinton administration. I find it sad.

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The pattern of corruption is long and continues.

Why a dead Ambassador and three other Americans means nothing to the liberals is especially disturbing.
It seems that the liberals are far more interested in their political ideology than their country.
Morals and ethics for the liberals are long ago out the window.


 
Posted : March 11, 2015 3:08 pm
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In the end she is corrupt to the core and Democrats simply don't care. Mainly because they have no alternative. They will stick with her and do everything they can to ignore it just as Sandy Berger literally removing classified documents and taking them home with him was laughed off as was everything that happened in the Clinton administration. I find it sad.

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The pattern of corruption is long and continues.

Why a dead Ambassador and three other Americans means nothing to the liberals is especially disturbing.
It seems that the liberals are far more interested in their political ideology than their country.
Morals and ethics for the liberals are long ago out the window.

This may be a "newsflash" to YOU?, but no wrongdoing was found by a panel of repudlickins looking for something that didn't exist.

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You are too stupid to form an opinion.


 
Posted : March 11, 2015 3:18 pm
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Much to do about nothing. By election time this will not even be remembered by the voting public.

Probably true. They will run the clock on this thing and then claim it's "old news" a month from now. Stonewalling works. After a while you can even (falsely) claim an investigation has already been completed and nobody even knows the difference.

We're only one news cycle away from another Tiger Woods or Casey Anthony.


 
Posted : March 11, 2015 3:36 pm
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Maybe they'll find the Eghazi emails after they find the 22 million emails deleted by the Bush Administration. Grin

Whoever was responsible should be in jail.


 
Posted : March 11, 2015 3:37 pm
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Maybe they'll find the Eghazi emails after they find the 22 million emails deleted by the Bush Administration. Grin

Whoever was responsible should be in jail.

Alloak to English translation: If a Democrat was responsible, he or she should go to jail.


 
Posted : March 11, 2015 3:44 pm
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"Corrupt to the core", LOL. And the Oscar goes to......

You are partly right though....I could care less about the email "scandal". Not because Dems have no other option, but to me it seems as trivial as bridge gate. Even if Christie did intentionally cause that traffic jam, who gives a crap? He'd still be a great candidate and it wouldn't mean he is "corrupt to the core".

I strongly disagree. If Christie is that petty and vindictive and stooped to that level he should forget about a career in politics. It points to a serious character problem and obviously shows he lacks the proper temperament to serve in a political capacity. This is exactly the type we need to stay away from.


 
Posted : March 11, 2015 3:44 pm
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"Corrupt to the core", LOL. And the Oscar goes to......

You are partly right though....I could care less about the email "scandal". Not because Dems have no other option, but to me it seems as trivial as bridge gate. Even if Christie did intentionally cause that traffic jam, who gives a crap? He'd still be a great candidate and it wouldn't mean he is "corrupt to the core".

I strongly disagree. If Christie is that petty and vindictive and stooped to that level he should forget about a career in politics. It points to a serious character problem and obviously shows he lacks the proper temperament to serve in a political capacity. This is exactly the type we need to stay away from.

Alloak to English translation: I wasn't going to vote for Christie.


 
Posted : March 11, 2015 3:47 pm
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A Pops quote:

"This may be a "newsflash" to YOU?, but no wrongdoing was found by a panel of repudlickins looking for something that didn't exist."

_______________________________________________________________________

Okay Pops, lets try this:

The House Committee on Benghazi closed their investigation so that a Select Committee could be formed to proceed.

Do you know why?

Hint: the reason has been explained here in depth.

Can Pops answer the question?


 
Posted : March 11, 2015 4:03 pm
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"Corrupt to the core", LOL. And the Oscar goes to......

You are partly right though....I could care less about the email "scandal". Not because Dems have no other option, but to me it seems as trivial as bridge gate. Even if Christie did intentionally cause that traffic jam, who gives a crap? He'd still be a great candidate and it wouldn't mean he is "corrupt to the core".

I strongly disagree. If ___________ is that petty and vindictive and stooped to that level he should forget about a career in politics. It points to a serious character problem and obviously shows he lacks the proper temperament to serve in a political capacity. This is exactly the type we need to stay away from.


 
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